Turkish Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 6 minutes ago, DT said: It is thought that there is a core of British players, including Southampton captain James Ward-Prowse, who are still supportive of Nathan Jones #saintsfc @CharlieWyett of course teachers pet is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 1 minute ago, ally_uk said: Tactics what tactics? We have gone backwards since Ralph I cannot think of one positive. Now we have a spiky bellend at the helm who refuses to acknowledge and take any form of accountability that the style of football he is serving up is quite frankly abysmal at this level..... Do the board suddenly think he is going to go unbeaten for the rest of the season of something 🤣🤣🤣 Pull the plug now get him gone and get someone who is capable at this level in for fuk sakes...... who is going to take the job and risk the failure? From the outside a middle range manager may think that 'they dont think manager of the season is good enough, will they welcome me' (personally I dont think that would be an issue) Its a bit of a risk, yes a hero is they magically keep us up but go down and the fans/club will look dimly on it, no doubt Selles is not keen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: of course teachers pet is. So are they saying only the British players at our club want him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: of course teachers pet is. Behave Turks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 Just now, Mr X said: So are they saying only the British players at our club want him? could be read like that, but I doubt it to be the case if so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 Not long to go until 100 pages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 12 minutes ago, DT said: It is thought that there is a core of British players, including Southampton captain James Ward-Prowse, who are still supportive of Nathan Jones #saintsfc @CharlieWyett Once a scummer, always a scummer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint In Cornwall Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 JWP has blamed the players for not following Jones' game plan. Quote But Ward-Prowse says that the buck has to start with the players on the pitch, with many of them not executing the plans given to them by Jones. The skipper also questioned the work-rate and desire of his teammates following yet another league defeat. Maybe that is one of the reasons SR have kept NJ in a job..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Timmier Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 Just now, Pamplemousse said: Not long to go until 100 pages Another crisps chat would sort that easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 6 minutes ago, Turkish said: of course teachers pet is. It is plausible we have signed a load of mercenary c*nts who just don't give a shit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 12 minutes ago, DT said: It is thought that there is a core of British players, including Southampton captain James Ward-Prowse, who are still supportive of Nathan Jones #saintsfc @CharlieWyett If there's that kind of split in the dressing room I don't see a way out of this that ends up in any turnaround in results. Dressing room splits are normally terminal without some kind of unifying force, which Jones is incapable of being. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Saint In Cornwall said: JWP has blamed the players for not following Jones' game plan. Maybe that is one of the reasons SR have kept NJ in a job..... Could be completely true but that doesn't change who Jones is and the fact that he is not the answer at all, regardless of what the players are like. The players aren't at fault for the B team stunt nor for the Lavia comments. They didn't tell him to play Walcott, start his mate Bree with no time to bed in and the same for Bednarek. Edited 6 February, 2023 by hypochondriac 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 1 minute ago, Toussaint said: It is plausible we have signed a load of mercenary c*nts who just don't give a shit? That’s possible. It’s also possible that we’ve signed a manager who struggles to get his ideas across coherently, so the players aren’t sure of what he wants them to do differently. It could also be a combination of both. Either way it all adds up to a bit of a shit show behind the scenes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 1 minute ago, Saint In Cornwall said: 2 minutes ago, Saint In Cornwall said: JWP has blamed the players for not following Jones' game plan. Maybe that is one of the reasons SR have kept NJ in a job..... He's quite right to question the work rate and desire of his team mates, its pathetic, it was under Ralph as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 4 minutes ago, Saint In Cornwall said: The skipper also questioned the work-rate and desire of his teammates following yet another league defeat. About 18 months too fucking late…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 2 minutes ago, CanadaSaint said: If there's that kind of split in the dressing room I don't see a way out of this that ends up in any turnaround in results. Dressing room splits are normally terminal without some kind of unifying force, which Jones is incapable of being. He's unifying. Just not in that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 4 minutes ago, Le Timmier said: Another crisps chat would sort that easily sort and vinegar then ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 Just now, Toussaint said: He's quite right to question the work rate and desire of his team mates, its pathetic, it was under Ralph as well. As a captain he should be going full Roy Keane then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/ex-portsmouth-palace-and-nottingham-forest-boss-and-regular-assistant-of-under-fire-southampton-manager-leaves-luton-4015390 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/21293856/jones-losing-confidence-southampton-squad-rant/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 Just now, The Kraken said: That’s possible. It’s also possible that we’ve signed a manager who struggles to get his ideas across coherently, so the players aren’t sure of what he wants them to do differently. It could also be a combination of both. Either way it all adds up to a bit of a shit show behind the scenes. It's definitely a case of two things can be true at the same time , these issues will need to be addressed by the new guy as well, or we will see more of the same crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 1 minute ago, coalman said: As a captain he should be going full Roy Keane then. I think times have changed too much for that. These guys would be crying (literally) to their agents should anyone behaved toward them in that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 What an F-ing miserable day this has been, the high hopes of the early morning renewal dashed on the rocks of SFC's dithering and gutless management. A plague on all their houses. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 9 minutes ago, Saint In Cornwall said: JWP has blamed the players for not following Jones' game plan. Maybe that is one of the reasons SR have kept NJ in a job..... Can you post the link to that please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 1 minute ago, Toussaint said: I think times have changed too much for that. These guys would be crying (literally) to their agents should anyone behaved toward them in that way. It's a lot better than saying we didn't show enough desire in your post match interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint In Cornwall Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 1 minute ago, Toadhall Saint said: Can you post the link to that please. https://www.hampshirelive.news/sport/football/football-news/ward-prowse-nathan-jones-saints-8115818 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 Talksport now reporting that SR reviewing his position after the players showing their unrest. Although it is that useless Drivetime bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 Just now, coalman said: It's a lot better than saying we didn't show enough desire in your post match interview You and I do not have a clue what gets said and done behind closed doors, do you expect him to go all NJ and publicly name, shame, and humiliate? He has too much class for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 24 minutes ago, coalman said: SR think this is the bit where the doubt is replaced by wonder as their moneyball approach kicks in Yeah, imagine Ankersen has it on constant rewind of the bit where it all suddenly turns to gold for Brad Pitt and he's muttering to himself, 'this is gonna work for us, it's gonna happen for Mad Nate...it's gotta work or Dragan feeds me to the pigs' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 1 minute ago, DT said: Talksport now reporting that SR reviewing his position after the players showing their unrest. Although it is that useless Drivetime bloke. Goldstein? He'd only be reading from a script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 Hah maybe time to revisit the debate about the xG from the City game. We're a Djenepo worldy and a rare Haaland miss away from a conversation about Jones with no fond memories at all. With some new managers you can see what they're trying to do and it makes sense to give them time until things click. I've no idea what Jones has been trying to do for the past three months, other than attempting to turn Che into a target man and Lyanco into Ronald Koeman. The team has no shape, because we change it three or four times a game. The lineup has no consistency because he makes bonkers changes in search of his fabled aggression and front-footedness. And we have no clue how to build attacks as our passing and movement in possession have gotten worse, which is staggering as we were dire to begin with. There's nothing to click here, so no point in waiting. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 21 minutes ago, ally_uk said: Tactics what tactics? We have gone backwards since Ralph I cannot think of one positive. Seriously? We are MuCh HarDer To BEat Now aND moRE aGgreSSiVe! Nathan has told us that repeatedly - well, apart from the times when we've not been aggressive, but meh, minor details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 Is it flying-an-aeroplane-with-a-big-message-trailing-behind-it-over-St-Mary's-during-a-game time? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 4 minutes ago, Toussaint said: You and I do not have a clue what gets said and done behind closed doors, do you expect him to go all NJ and publicly name, shame, and humiliate? He has too much class for that. That's not what I'm saying. If he's not seeing effort on the pitch go and tell them on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 Think that two things are happening, either the Board are sounding out replacements and negotiating with Jones about his pay off / confidentiality etc. thinking they can look slick when the sack him Wednesday and announce his replacement on Thursday, or Ankersen in an attempt to preserve ego and credibility has doubled down and convinced snakey Semmens the other noddies on the Board that Jones is about to 'click'. Hope for the first and fear for the second. Ankersen has very little experience and no real track record in Premier League football and like Jones has been blagging, attempting to learn on the job. What he might not realise is that there is no way back for Nathan Jones and if he tries to keep the little weasel on to relegate us, no way back for him either. The manboy needs to stop playing games and grow up fast. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 Just now, coalman said: That's not what I'm saying. If he's not seeing effort on the pitch go and tell them on the pitch. Ho comprende, but to be fair to him he would say, and I would agree, that he leads by example. Whether he is the right person to be captain at this time is another discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 Just now, Toussaint said: Ho comprende, but to be fair to him he would say, and I would agree, that he leads by example. Whether he is the right person to be captain at this time is another discussion. Agree with that and that our (lack of) on pitch leadership is a whole other bag of snakes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 26 minutes ago, OldNick said: who is going to take the job and risk the failure? From the outside a middle range manager may think that 'they dont think manager of the season is good enough, will they welcome me' (personally I dont think that would be an issue) Its a bit of a risk, yes a hero is they magically keep us up but go down and the fans/club will look dimly on it, no doubt Selles is not keen. Lots of people, all better than Jones. Just like Everton managed with Dyche last week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Le Timmier said: Another crisps chat would sort that easily ......or cheese, but can we distance ourselves from the cat-wanking? Let's maintain some semblance of pride.... Edited 6 February, 2023 by miserableoldgit 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 Just now, miserableoldgit said: ......or cheese, but can we distance ourselves from the cat-wanking? Let's maintain some pride.... Apparently, it's possible to be proud of a good cat-wanking session... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 Had some more Lidl Frazzles at the weekend, with some pale ale. Delicious. PS Jones is a twat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 1 hour ago, OldNick said: Only as they are backing against us. They’re not though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 5 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said: Lots of people, all better than Jones. Just like Everton managed with Dyche last week. To give a different slant on that.....not many prospective managers are worse than Jones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 (edited) Surely someone knows a player or two and can say what's going on? I can't believe they're doing the fans forum. Edited 6 February, 2023 by hypochondriac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 (edited) Saint Garrett any more updates atall? Like I said yesterday I really wanted Jones to succeed but its a results driven business and they haven't been good enough. Also factoring in the aftermatch comments on Saturday means a change is needed I feel. Edited 6 February, 2023 by davefizzy14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Surely someone knows a player or two and can say what's going on? They wouldn’t know - too busy running around like headless chickens in training - its how the best coaches in Europe train nowadays bit like how Jones trains the 100m sprint Edited 6 February, 2023 by Toadhall Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 The fact that he took training today, is enough to tell me he's not going anywhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 1 hour ago, DT said: Leeds, above us and with a better record, seemingly acting quicker to dismiss a manager who isn't even having a mental breakdown. That's how bad we are. Rotten to the core. And we have an ex-Manchester City director bringing all his 'baggage' too... #healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 If I read through those millions of posts ^^^^ would it tell me any more than he's still here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granite_City_Saint Posted 6 February, 2023 Share Posted 6 February, 2023 1 hour ago, RedArmy said: Anyone gambling their money on this board doing the sensible thing has got money to burn quite frankly. Anyone gambling on anything has money to burn. It is a mug’s game moving money from the financially illiterate to big corporations who give provide no value to society. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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