Edmonton Saint Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 Worst Saints Debut since Alan Bennett? Can see why Everton were so keen to get rid. Shocking performance. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 Utterly dreadful performance, every time he gave possession away he rushed to the ball leaving a massive hole at the back. Also had a massive hole in his foot for their 4th. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 I won't write him off after one performance but this was a bloody bad debut. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 Im not going to write the guy off but this was dreadful Im not going to lie I watched the training footage mid week where Sully had him on toast and did worry 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 Terrible signing before it happened, proved right immediately with one of the worst defensive displays I've seen from a team notorious for them over the past few years. Can't pass, can't defend, fucking stupid. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 What worries me is that he will be expecting game time. He didn't come to us to be backup, and I know Everton have historically included clauses in their loan agreements stating the loaning club must pay X amount each time their man doesn't play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 (edited) I will give him time... unless we can activate the 14 day cooling off period 😎 Edited 2 September, 2023 by Yorkshire Saint 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: What worries me is that he will be expecting game time. He didn't come to us to be backup, and I know Everton have historically included clauses in their loan agreements stating the loaning club must pay X amount each time their man doesn't play. Who cares what he expects. We expected a competent performance and he failed miserably. Hope he stays on the sidelines from now on. Edited 2 September, 2023 by niceandfriendly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 Just now, niceandfriendly said: Who cares what he expects. We expected a competent performance and he failed miserably. Hope he stays on that sidelines from now on. So do I, but it's likely RM will be under pressure to select him regardless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 That was a shite performance. No control at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 6 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: So do I, but it's likely RM will be under pressure to select him regardless. Not a chance IMO. Stephens and THB will be first choice if available. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 One of the worst debuts I have ever seen. I said what a poor signing it was and got shot down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 Let's hope we never need him again this season, christ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 Well he certainly makes a mockery out of the belief he’s a Prem player - he doesn’t look good enough for L2! Needs dropping to the bench and shackles placed around his ankles, but we all know RM will give him another chance against Leicester…oh sweet Jesus. 😳 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 I will put a cheeky 1000 quid on him being the most improved saints player this season. It can only go up surely ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 Should never have been signed - you only have to listen to Everton fans to know he is not a footballer. but he was far from being alone in being utter s***e today. Every player was 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMidSaint Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 Truly pathetic debut. No one should write him off based on 1 game, but many more like that and he’ll have a tough job convincing anyone. Mind boggling how bad he was 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Fastenbüttl Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 A shocking debut, yes, but you just cannot write a player off after a single performance. It's insane. Let's fucking hope he's got it all out of his system now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 Holgate, shagging the ring of confidence! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 I wont write him off after one game but I hope I never see him in a Saints shirt again 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osvaldorama Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 I won’t write him off after one game. Luckily, we saw a load of him as he was in the PL last year. So based on more than just this one game, he is utter shite and not worth playing ever again 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 Can only hope he is a little ring-rusty because his display today was abysmal. He looks like someone who believes he's got all the time in the world and can make passes out from the back - on today's showing he needs to get those beliefs out of his head and start putting his foot through the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 I thought it was crazy when I saw his name in the starting lineup. They looked like a bunch of unfit strangers out there today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 He was awful. Worst Saints debut for a good while. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 He’s shit. Reason why Everton were happy to get shot of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 Just now, sambosa75 said: He’s shit. Reason why Everton were happy to get shot of him. Could be. But this was not the game to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 What’s scary is that Wilcox and co thought he was good enough to bring in. That puts a big question mark over their judgment. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirkdiggler Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 He will hopefully be back up now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 2 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said: So do I, but it's likely RM will be under pressure to select him regardless. No more pressure than he'll be under to play Man City's on loan centreback who was one of the best in the league, alongside our club captain Jack Stephens when fit again. Holgate should immediately be dropped and designated as number 3 CB for the foreseeable. I think there is a player in there somewhere but clearly he ain't at the races right now for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 Give him at least 10 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 5 minutes ago, ally_uk said: Give him at least 10 games In the B team. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 Weirdly he came closest to scoring for us! 🤣🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 There is a level of bad and then there was that. He's behind everyone, even Charles, for that CB spot now - in my opinion. He's got a lot of work to do to get into the side after that. Thank god we got THB in. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 (edited) When your finest achievement so far is ‘taking the heat off Ali Dia’ then you can assume it’s not been a great debut. Edited 2 September, 2023 by wadesmith 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 Just seen the goals again My christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 Prem experience, rated by literally one of the top managers in Europe of the last decade in Carlo Ancelloti, player of season for Premier League Everton albeit a few years back and whenever he didn’t play for them he was sat in a trailblazing dugout, loved by West Brom fans during his previous sojourn in Championship. A sure fire nailed on hit transfer…….. And then he plays 🤦♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 3 hours ago, Dirkdiggler said: He will hopefully be back up now What, back up the road to Everton? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 Don't forget. Holgate's versatility could bring that level of performance to right back as well. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 2 hours ago, ally_uk said: Give him at least 10 games We’ll have a goal difference of -50 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 He was really shite today and doesn't look match fit. I wont blame any of our CBs though - Martin's gungho system leaves them all way too exposed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 I was underwhelmed upon his announcement - thought he looked like he thinks he is too good for this league, more than too casual - plays like that at St Mary’s and he’ll quickly get the message unless there is not much between the ears. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 I saw Alan Bennett’s debut. It couldn’t have been worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 3 hours ago, Smirking_Saint said: We’ll have a goal difference of -50 So, you do think he'll get better then, so it's down to only that? 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 51 minutes ago, St Chalet said: I saw Alan Bennett’s debut. It couldn’t have been worse. From memory, he did come good before his loan expired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalSaintSO50 Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 4 hours ago, Dman said: He was really shite today and doesn't look match fit. I wont blame any of our CBs though - Martin's gungho system leaves them all way too exposed. You won’t blame our CBs?? He should have been hooked after 20 minutes. Complete liability. I’ve seen some dross at the back for us over the last 40 years but I reckon this clown has topped the lot. I like Martin but how he allowed this disaster to still be on the pitch after half time to seal the deal with that forth goal calamity is beyond me. Get rid sharpish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 Easily the worst debut I've ever witnessed. Looked a fish out of water for every second he was on the pitch. It was a fairly obvious result with his reputation at Everton. Given how shite they've been in recent years, for him to be written off from that bunch is quite a thing. Looks a truly abysmal signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixedkebab Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, John Boy Saint said: I was underwhelmed upon his announcement - thought he looked like he thinks he is too good for this league, more than too casual - plays like that at St Mary’s and he’ll quickly get the message unless there is not much between the ears. Will try not to write the cunt off too early but there were several other utter lazy pieces of shit on the pitch this afternoon. Sickening half arsed performances Edited 3 September, 2023 by Mixedkebab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixedkebab Posted 3 September, 2023 Share Posted 3 September, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mixedkebab said: Will try not to write the cunt off too early but there were several other utter lazy pieces of shit on the pitch this afternoon. Sickening half arsed performances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiknsmack Posted 3 September, 2023 Share Posted 3 September, 2023 14 hours ago, Saint_clark said: number 3 CB Double it. THB, Stephens, Bednarek, Charles, anyone else. Holgate fits in ahead of Onuachu and McCarthy, but only just. Really hope he improves with time and familiarity with the system. He certainly needs to to earn a spot on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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