bangkoksaint Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 We’ll sign him and do the very Saintsy thing of selling Che at the last minute and not replacing him 🙄 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 6 hours ago, bangkoksaint said: We’ll sign him and do the very Saintsy thing of selling Che at the last minute and not replacing him 🙄 Fingers crossed. Edited January 30 by Weston Super Saint 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Good news on Brooks if it’s happening, but the best business of the window is keeping KWP if we do manage it 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, Jack said: Good news on Brooks if it’s happening, but the best business of the window is keeping KWP if we do manage it Bednarek too, Keeping the back two of ThB and Bednarek can't be understated. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 are we not only allowed 5 loans ?? Brooks would make six i think ....Fraser , Holgate , THB, Rothwell , Downes ......maybe Holgate going back or we are converting Fraser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 7 minutes ago, charliemiller said: are we not only allowed 5 loans ?? Brooks would make six i think ....Fraser , Holgate , THB, Rothwell , Downes ......maybe Holgate going back or we are converting Fraser We're only allowed 5 in the match day squad, but I don't think there's a limit on how many we can have on the books. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 7 minutes ago, charliemiller said: are we not only allowed 5 loans ?? Brooks would make six i think ....Fraser , Holgate , THB, Rothwell , Downes ......maybe Holgate going back or we are converting Fraser we are allowed more than 5 loans, however only 5 can be named in the match day squad so someone has to be left out.....the obvious one for me is Holgate 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 ….but why have Bournemouth let him go if he is as good as people on here think? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 5 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: ….but why have Bournemouth let him go if he is as good as people on here think? Because he wants gametime, They wanted to keep him. The player pushed for the move., They've recalled another winger to allow this to happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: ….but why have Bournemouth let him go if he is as good as people on here think? You ask the question of us, but I don't feel you've bothered to stop and try to answer it yourself. Seems pretty obvious - they want him back up to speed, but don't anticipate him playing a big role in their first team this season. We're playing a high level of football and it's a low intervention, short-distance move to come here. Edited January 30 by ant 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 30 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said: we are allowed more than 5 loans, however only 5 can be named in the match day squad so someone has to be left out.....the obvious one for me is Holgate Or Rothwell, you simply cant leave the other 4 out if they are fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 5 minutes ago, beatlesaint said: Or Rothwell, you simply cant leave the other 4 out if they are fit. I'd leave Holgate out every day, even if he was fit. We've got Stephens as the backup CB on the bench. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) It does make sense from a Bournemouth perspective, outside of their noddy fans fake rivalry bullshit. Brooks won’t get back to where he was without playing regularly and they have players currently ahead of him. He can stay living in his home and get lots of minutes playing for a team on fire. Normally we wouldn’t be keen to develop another team’s player, especially a team that would be a relegation rival if we do go up. Needs must on this occasion, we would be stupid to not get a player of his quality in to help us with our promotion push. Hope he smashes it and we have the ‘never fall in love with a loan player’ issue. Edited January 30 by goodymatt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 8 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I'd leave Holgate out every day, even if he was fit. We've got Stephens as the backup CB on the bench. Yeah, by the other 4 I was including Brooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 50 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I'd leave Holgate out every day, even if he was fit. We've got Stephens as the backup CB on the bench. There are those on here that prefer Holgate to Stephens..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALK DMC Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 48 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I'd leave Holgate out every day, even if he was fit. We've got Stephens as the backup CB on the bench. The great thing about squad depth is that we don't need to make hard and fast decisions on who is on the bench. For example, while Bree remains injured having Holgate on the bench would give us cover for KWP/Manning at full back. Either way, we have 8 games in 29 days coming up, we'll be hit by injuries, suspensions, loss of form and the need to rest certain players. Having this depth will allow us to adapt to whatever is thrown at us i the coming month. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Makes an awful lot of sense for Brooks - he was Bournemouth's main man, got The Big C and can't get back into the team (to be fair, Bournemouth's squad has improved a lot since he got ill). Where better to walk straight into a team, get lots of game time, make a positive impression and not even have to move house? Very happy with this signing. Any rumours of an option to buy or is it just a straight six-month loan? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Charlie Wayman said: ….but why have Bournemouth let him go if he is as good as people on here think? a good question, but although B'mouth aren't going to make a Euro spot this season, their squad seems to be holding their own in the Prem. Brooks has fought back from a life-threatening illness, but hasn't played regularly since, and on current form they don't need him for every match . I'd say B'mouth have nothing to lose. They will allow Saints to give him game time (most likely a lot of it) in the next few months to find an answer. IF...his fitness holds up OK, both he and his club will benefit and they will have a fit, and in-form player for next season... (unless he stays). IF... " the project" doesn't work out they will have the answer they want, and at someone else's cost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 Clubs showing interest in Alcaraz. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Massively overated 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, danjosaint said: Massively overated who is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Alcaraz 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I can definitely see Alcaraz going before the window shuts (if we get a good offer). For me he's been poor this season apart from a couple of good goals and I'm not sure Martin trusts him. He does have potential though so would it be a mistake long term to let him go? The club wouldn't need to sign a replacement either as we are pretty well stacked in that department. It'll be interesting to see if anything comes from the rumours. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 16 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: I can definitely see Alcaraz going before the window shuts (if we get a good offer). For me he's been poor this season apart from a couple of good goals and I'm not sure Martin trusts him. He does have potential though so would it be a mistake long term to let him go? The club wouldn't need to sign a replacement either as we are pretty well stacked in that department. It'll be interesting to see if anything comes from the rumours. I'd quite like to keep him but I doubt he will be here next season anyway and if selling him allows us to keep kwp and probably Adams at this stage then it's a no brainier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Master Bates said: Clubs showing interest in Alcaraz. Wouldn't surprise me if he left, whether permanently or on loan. We do have good depth in midfield with Downes and Charles in the holding roles and then Stuey, Smallbone, Rothwell (unknown if he's an upgrade but it looks like Martin will play him ahead of Charley) and Aribo (when he's back from AFCON) in the more advanced positions. As things stand, it seems Martin has him down for a few mins at the end of league games plus cup action, which is probably not enough for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenilworthy Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just now, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said: Wouldn't surprise me if he left, whether permanently or on loan. We do have good depth in midfield with Downes and Charles in the holding roles and then Stuey, Smallbone, Rothwell (unknown if he's an upgrade but it looks like Martin will play him ahead of Charley) and Aribo (when he's back from AFCON) in the more advanced positions. As things stand, it seems Martin has him down for a few mins at the end of league games plus cup action, which is probably not enough for him. I do rate Alcaraz, but he hasn't really impressed this season. He actually looked a lot better last season. Might be best for him to move on. But would we get back the £12million we paid for him? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 On 27/01/2024 at 17:35, SaintNewForest said: Carillio should've had more of a chance too, being our record signing at the time and all. I have seen him play and i just don't get the hype on Sulemena at all, I'm afraid. What has he done in a Saints shirt to warrant such praise and confidence? well what has the Palace kid done to inspire you, seen a clip on youtube perhaps. Sulemana had done something to be bought in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 40 minutes ago, Kenilworthy said: I do rate Alcaraz, but he hasn't really impressed this season. He actually looked a lot better last season. Might be best for him to move on. But would we get back the £12million we paid for him? We’d get a fair whack more you’d expect, he’s just signed a new deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 9 minutes ago, Appy said: We’d get a fair whack more you’d expect, he’s just signed a new deal. He may even have a release clause in his new deal. Either way I could see the club asking for £20-25m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 13 hours ago, bangkoksaint said: We’ll sign him and do the very Saintsy thing of selling Che at the last minute and not replacing him 🙄 Saintsy these days would get it all sorted, not lose any players and get someone else in at the last minute we weren’t expecting. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 We still need a bit more quality in the village. Got to be on the front foot and not marry ugly birds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 10 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: We still need a bit more quality in the village. Got to be on the front foot and not marry ugly birds. What are you on about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Realist Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Alcaraz, despite having had a poor season, is a class act. When Stu leaves this summer, we will not have any midfielders who take the ball on the half turn and attack the opposition. That is what Charly does, playing between the lines. He still has a lot to learn but the potential is there so don't think we should sell him. 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 Ryan Finnigan set for loan to Blackpool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 24 minutes ago, The Realist said: Alcaraz, despite having had a poor season, is a class act. When Stu leaves this summer, we will not have any midfielders who take the ball on the half turn and attack the opposition. That is what Charly does, playing between the lines. He still has a lot to learn but the potential is there so don't think we should sell him. Absolutely this. The young lad is still learning the language and culture too. Given how long it took the squad to learn RMs tactics you can understand why he's not been involved quite as much as was expected in the summer. He's still raw and I assume on a fairly low wage compared to others. I can't see any sense in selling him, yet. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, SaintsFan86 said: What are you on about. Call yourself a fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauro Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 42 minutes ago, The Realist said: Alcaraz, despite having had a poor season, is a class act. When Stu leaves this summer, we will not have any midfielders who take the ball on the half turn and attack the opposition. That is what Charly does, playing between the lines. He still has a lot to learn but the potential is there so don't think we should sell him. Absolutely this! I recall people saying of Schneiderlin when we were in League 1/Championship that they didn't rate him and that he wasn't up to it. However every time we played against Premier League opposition whether that be friendly or cup, he stood out. The style of football played in the championship is very different to the Prem and whilst Alcaraz may not stand out in this team, at this level. I have every confidence that should we go up, he will be a key player next year. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 52 minutes ago, The Realist said: Alcaraz, despite having had a poor season, is a class act. When Stu leaves this summer, we will not have any midfielders who take the ball on the half turn and attack the opposition. That is what Charly does, playing between the lines. He still has a lot to learn but the potential is there so don't think we should sell him. Yes, there's been a couple of times this season he's taken a pass back to goal between the half way line and the penalty area and done his half turn and straightaway created something. Add to that he can see a pass and has a good shot on him and you've got a quality player. A couple have said RM doesn't trust him and that makes sense. He can lose the ball in awkward places but it'll be irritating if he goes to Forest or another average club in the premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Forest have FFP hanging over them and a goalkeeper is their top priority. Can't see Alcaraz going and would be disappointed if he did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 46 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: Call yourself a fan! Of talking bollocks? 🤣 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AlexLaw76 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said: How on earth is he going to get more game time at Sheff United? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said: How on earth is he going to get more game time at Sheff United? Without knowing their squad, hard to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just now, SaintsFan86 said: Without knowing their squad, hard to tell. Limited, when you are playing Brewster and McBurnie up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 8 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said: He's been getting more game time recently with the cups, and he's done alright tbf. I think he's got potential but just needs a solid run of games - which he is unlikely to get. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Limited, when you are playing Brewster and McBurnie up top. They also have Cameron Archer and Brereton-Diaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: They also have Cameron Archer and Brereton-Diaz Oh right, Do they play 2 forwards in their system then? Otherwise seems madness sending him there. Worth mentioning other teams are interested too it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Mulgrew Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Does anyone know whether the reported late valuation, by Burnley for Benson, of £15m is true and, if so, whether that really did cause us to end our commitment to signing him and, also, what valuation did we have in mind? I am not sure when Benson’s contract ends but unless it is soon £15m for him seems not too far away from a sensible price for him, always assuming that he is as good as was mooted on here several days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Tommy Mulgrew said: Does anyone know whether the reported late valuation, by Burnley for Benson, of £15m is true and, if so, whether that really did cause us to end our commitment to signing him and, also, what valuation did we have in mind? I am not sure when Benson’s contract ends but unless it is soon £15m for him seems not too far away from a sensible price for him, always assuming that he is as good as was mooted on here several days ago. We only wanted a straight loan and Burnley changed the goalposts at the last minute demanding an obligation to buy. This aside, Brooks is a better player. Much like Kompany/Burnley's opinion he is a top performer in the championship, but not quite good enough to step up. Similarly to AA and to an extent Adams Edited January 30 by Saint Scott 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 announcement incoming 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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