Will Still

[sockeye]

53 minutes ago, die Mannyschaft said:

That bloke at Forrest will be free soon, then 2nd season silverware.

Said silverware being the League One playoff trophy.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

1 hour ago, Football Special said:

Interesting comparison,  I find the whole turning on managers early on a bit odd but I'm quite old school, with the Jones example I remember fans going after him quite early on , just felt weird as I'd known how the club had persued him and persuaded him to leave Luton , was definitely a case where Sports Republic deserved the criticism more than him

Anyway good to see Liverpool fans starting to turn on Slot, when they struggled to beat us a couple of weeks ago I thought the writing was on the wall for him 

Entitled bunch of fuckin twats

[CamSaint]

Seven players away on international duty: Charles, Azaz, Manning, Baz, Mads (recalled to the Denmark squad), Quarshie & Robinson.

[Turkish]

On 05/10/2025 at 20:58, Football Special said:

Interesting comparison,  I find the whole turning on managers early on a bit odd but I'm quite old school, with the Jones example I remember fans going after him quite early on , just felt weird as I'd known how the club had persued him and persuaded him to leave Luton , was definitely a case where Sports Republic deserved the criticism more than him

Anyway good to see Liverpool fans starting to turn on Slot, when they struggled to beat us a couple of weeks ago I thought the writing was on the wall for him 

I loved winding Liverpool fans up last season with bragging about how Klopp set Slot up to succeed when he was instead, turning it round and saying actually Klopp must have been holding them back. Now we can turn it again and say, "hang on a minute, i thought Klopp set this all up for him....."

[Charlie Wayman]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ce84w939l84o

Proves that it can be done quickly and decisively without too much internal embarrassment?

Get on with it!

Edited Wednesday at 13:54 by Charlie Wayman

[sockeye]

4 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ce84w939l84o

Proves that it can be done quickly and decisively without too much internal embarrassment?

Get on with it!

Act like Watford and we will become Watford. That is to say, a nothing club making up the numbers in the Championship.

[CSA96]

1 hour ago, Charlie Wayman said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ce84w939l84o

Proves that it can be done quickly and decisively without too much internal embarrassment?

Get on with it!

Sorry, you’re holding up Watford as an example? 

[Pamplemousse]

A year ago today we drew 1-1 at home to Rotherham, for context.

Honestly, people need to get a grip. There's absolutely no way we should even be considering making a change at this stage.

[trousers]

13 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

A year ago today we drew 1-1 at home to Rotherham, for context.

# MLG KLAXON #

* Two years ago today

😉

[John B]

3 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ce84w939l84o

Proves that it can be done quickly and decisively without too much internal embarrassment?

Get on with it!

I think they have had over a dozen managers since 2020

[AlexLaw76]

1 hour ago, Pamplemousse said:

A year ago today we drew 1-1 at home to Rotherham, for context.

Honestly, people need to get a grip. There's absolutely no way we should even be considering making a change at this stage.

If that was a year ago, I am not sure this is a good point being made

[Weston Super Saint]

Just now, John B said:

I think they have had over a dozen managers since 2020

Which is why they've mastered the art of "doing it quickly".

[Dr Who?]

We do not want to be making a change. Stills record is pretty poor, but he needs longer. If you ask me if I think it will go well, I do not think it will, I just do not think it is the right fit, but boy I want to be wrong. We cannot be changing managers every 5 minutes, the owners need to show faith in their selection! 

[Badger]

1 hour ago, Dr Who? said:

We do not want to be making a change. Stills record is pretty poor, but he needs longer. If you ask me if I think it will go well, I do not think it will, I just do not think it is the right fit, but boy I want to be wrong. We cannot be changing managers every 5 minutes, the owners need to show faith in their selection! 

There seems to be some contradictions in your post. He has a poor record, but although you don’t think it will go well, you want him to continue.

I’d rather we didn’t have to make another change, but I’d rather the board face up to the error rather than just continue to blindly ‘show faith’ in their appointment. Seem to remember this was the case with Pelligrino, and we know how that eventually ended. 

[HnycS]

14 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ce84w939l84o

Proves that it can be done quickly and decisively without too much internal embarrassment?

Get on with it!

If Saints go back to the equivalent manager from the same era, would it be Koeman? Think that would be expensive, and probably not feasible until after the world cup, but I could get behind it, particularly if like last time he has to rebuild the squad. Based on current form I would take the guy Watford fired.

Went and checked it was Ralph Hasenhüttl, not quite so keen to take him back. Maybe Saints could bring him back to help Still?

Edited Thursday at 04:34 by HnycS

[Tamesaint]

14 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ce84w939l84o

Proves that it can be done quickly and decisively without too much internal embarrassment?

Get on with it!

Classic Charlie!! 

Wouldn't you be happier at the Emirates supporting your first love? 

[Willo of Whiteley]

Ralph Hassenhutl is light years ahead of Will Still. That’s how far we have dropped back.

[John B]

6 hours ago, HnycS said:

If Saints go back to the equivalent manager from the same era, would it be Koeman? Think that would be expensive, and probably not feasible until after the world cup, but I could get behind it, particularly if like last time he has to rebuild the squad. Based on current form I would take the guy Watford fired.

Went and checked it was Ralph Hasenhüttl, not quite so keen to take him back. Maybe Saints could bring him back to help Still?

All successful managersv need successful strikers Man City are doing better now that Haaland

Even Russell did OK when Adams and Armstrong were regularly scoring 

Still has little chance of success with our current strikers

[rallyboy]

With every season that goes by with Saints attempting to compete without a proper centre forward, the £1m purchase of Rickie Lambert looks even more like the deal of the century.

I know those were more simple times, you looked at strikers, bought them, they scored goals, but the last few recruitment departments seem to have lost their way.

[malcolm waldron]

6 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

With every season that goes by with Saints attempting to compete without a proper centre forward, the £1m purchase of Rickie Lambert looks even more like the deal of the century.

I know those were more simple times, you looked at strikers, bought them, they scored goals, but the last few recruitment departments seem to have lost their way.

We say the same thing every home game walking over the bridge to the ground with Rickie staring back at us from the mural.  What we would give to find the equivalent now from League 1.

[Pamplemousse]

15 hours ago, trousers said:

# MLG KLAXON #

* Two years ago today

😉

Oops yes you're right. Trying to erase last season from memory 🙃

[Dan Johnson]

11 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

With every season that goes by with Saints attempting to compete without a proper centre forward, the £1m purchase of Rickie Lambert looks even more like the deal of the century.

I know those were more simple times, you looked at strikers, bought them, they scored goals, but the last few recruitment departments seem to have lost their way.

Haaland maybe the best thing to happen to the future of English football, all be it we may have to wait for 10 years to see the impact.

At the moment we seem to have players who grew up wanting to play in false 9 positions, inside left forwards etc.

With Haaland we finally see a physical beast who concentrates purely on scoring goals, lets hope the majority of 9\10 year olds watching football these days want to grow up to be a Haaland, then, in 10 years, we may find a few more Ricky Lamberts in the lower leagues.

[Morse]

A lot of the skill of appointing a new manager is positively managing the expectation of the fan base. If you start off with an untried ' left field ' appointment like Jones or Still the honeymoon period is going to be a lot shorter than if you appoint a more established name. So if the club wants to go with someone unexpected they better have a decent striker on board to help things along.  Clearly another SR mistake !

[St Chalet]

48 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

With every season that goes by with Saints attempting to compete without a proper centre forward, the £1m purchase of Rickie Lambert looks even more like the deal of the century.

I know those were more simple times, you looked at strikers, bought them, they scored goals, but the last few recruitment departments seem to have lost their way.

Doesn’t fit our profile of buying potential unfortunately. 

[Saint Matty 76]

Needs to find a way of getting Azaz and Archer to work together, with Fellows and one of Robinson/Scienza/Armstrong on the other side.

Without that I think his job will go pretty quickly. Downs clearly isn't close to ready for the role. 

[Sheaf Saint]

3 hours ago, Dan Johnson said:

 in 10 years, we may find a few more Ricky Lamberts in the lower leagues.

And on our current trajectory under SR, that's exactly where we will be.

[Toussaint]

18 hours ago, John B said:

I think they have had over a dozen managers since 2020

We are on eight, I think.

[Sheaf Saint]

4 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

We are on eight, I think.

Seven.

Ralph, Jones, Selles, Martin, Juric, Rusk, Still.

Hands up anyone who thought of Trumpton while reading that.

[kitch]

Still have time for Still, personally. His record in France was good (yeah yeah, different league, but it's not a different sport) and he's young. He's shown his willingness to be adaptable and wants to win at all costs. Seems a good guy, without ego. My only concern is that he doesn't have the full respect of the players, but that might just be me getting the wrong end of the stick. 
The last point leads me onto what I think is the actual problem: The players he has at his disposal. Too many of them still aren't good enough. That's on the board.

[AlexLaw76]

12 minutes ago, kitch said:

Still have time for Still, personally. His record in France was good (yeah yeah, different league, but it's not a different sport) and he's young. He's shown his willingness to be adaptable and wants to win at all costs. Seems a good guy, without ego. My only concern is that he doesn't have the full respect of the players, but that might just be me getting the wrong end of the stick. 
The last point leads me onto what I think is the actual problem: The players he has at his disposal. Too many of them still aren't good enough. That's on the board.

Not good enough for what?

If they were from the last time round, they were good enough to get promoted, with additions like Azaz and Fellows who are genuine top players for this league. Ffs, we have loaned out players good enough for teams currently much better than us 

Scienza looks good, as does Jander

if Russell Martin could get a tune out of Che Adams, who was considered a joke the last time were relegated, it can be beyond expectations that we expect Still to be much better than we have seen so far.

 

Edited Thursday at 12:31 by AlexLaw76

[John B]

56 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

We are on eight, I think.

There dozen does not include caretaker managers I think your eight includes a couple

[Charlie Wayman]

18 hours ago, Dr Who? said:

We do not want to be making a change. Stills record is pretty poor, but he needs longer. If you ask me if I think it will go well, I do not think it will, I just do not think it is the right fit, but boy I want to be wrong. We cannot be changing managers every 5 minutes, the owners need to show faith in their selection! 

Seems a lot of comfort is being drawn from kicking this can down the road.

 

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Not good enough for what?

If they were from the last time round, they were good enough to get promoted, with additions like Azaz and Fellows who are genuine top players for this league. Ffs, we have loaned out players good enough for teams currently much better than us 

Scienza looks good, as does Jander

if Russell Martin could get a tune out of Che Adams, who was considered a joke the last time were relegated, it can be beyond expectations that we expect Still to be much better than we have seen so far.

 

You and I are of one mind.

Churchill used to stamp "Action this day" on stuff that he wanted done quickly.

[Charlie Wayman]

2 hours ago, kitch said:

Still have time for Still, personally. His record in France was good (yeah yeah, different league, but it's not a different sport) and he's young. He's shown his willingness to be adaptable and wants to win at all costs. Seems a good guy, without ego. My only concern is that he doesn't have the full respect of the players, but that might just be me getting the wrong end of the stick. 
The last point leads me onto what I think is the actual problem: The players he has at his disposal. Too many of them still aren't good enough. That's on the board.

He's just had a clear out and hand-picked new recruitment. To suggest he wasn't involved in these processes is baloney!

[RedArmy]

8 hours ago, Dan Johnson said:

Haaland maybe the best thing to happen to the future of English football, all be it we may have to wait for 10 years to see the impact.

At the moment we seem to have players who grew up wanting to play in false 9 positions, inside left forwards etc.

With Haaland we finally see a physical beast who concentrates purely on scoring goals, lets hope the majority of 9\10 year olds watching football these days want to grow up to be a Haaland, then, in 10 years, we may find a few more Ricky Lamberts in the lower leagues.

If we don’t see any impact from Harry Kane doing it for club and country for a long longer than Haaland has then I doubt we’ll see any significant impact from Haaland either. 
 

 

[Turkish]

8 hours ago, Dan Johnson said:

Haaland maybe the best thing to happen to the future of English football, all be it we may have to wait for 10 years to see the impact.

At the moment we seem to have players who grew up wanting to play in false 9 positions, inside left forwards etc.

With Haaland we finally see a physical beast who concentrates purely on scoring goals, lets hope the majority of 9\10 year olds watching football these days want to grow up to be a Haaland, then, in 10 years, we may find a few more Ricky Lamberts in the lower leagues.

Most want to be Central Defensive Midfielders these days. The U13 team i coach is doing really well and we have loads of kids wanting to join us from other teams, i'd say 60% of them want to be CDMs. It's weird how this position has become so fashionable. Also weirdly is a lot of kids say they're full backs, no one ever wanted to play there when i was a kid. 

[kitch]

1 hour ago, Charlie Wayman said:

He's just had a clear out and hand-picked new recruitment. To suggest he wasn't involved in these processes is baloney!

He's been here 5 mins, really. I'd be amazed if any of these were WS signings. Downes had been on the club's radar for several years.

[kitch]

4 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Not good enough for what?

If they were from the last time round, they were good enough to get promoted, with additions like Azaz and Fellows who are genuine top players for this league. Ffs, we have loaned out players good enough for teams currently much better than us 

Scienza looks good, as does Jander

if Russell Martin could get a tune out of Che Adams, who was considered a joke the last time were relegated, it can be beyond expectations that we expect Still to be much better than we have seen so far.

 

That was two years ago! Players aren't robots, they get better and they get worse. You're seriously suggesting that we're not lightweight in goal, at full back or at centre forward?

Azaz and Fellows - agreed. Good Championship players, and it's up to WS to get a tune out of them. Jander also looks good, Scienza likely the same. Arma is a proven scorer at this level and our best player (IMO) is Charles. But that's not the whole team.
 

[benjii]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Most want to be Central Defensive Midfielders these days. The U13 team i coach is doing really well and we have loads of kids wanting to join us from other teams, i'd say 60% of them want to be CDMs. It's weird how this position has become so fashionable. Also weirdly is a lot of kids say they're full backs, no one ever wanted to play there when i was a kid. 

The age of the front sweeper is dawning.

[Dr Who?]

22 hours ago, Badger said:

There seems to be some contradictions in your post. He has a poor record, but although you don’t think it will go well, you want him to continue.

I’d rather we didn’t have to make another change, but I’d rather the board face up to the error rather than just continue to blindly ‘show faith’ in their appointment. Seem to remember this was the case with Pelligrino, and we know how that eventually ended. 

Not really, I want to be proved wrong. 

[Saint Pete]

It's not been good so far obviously. But if you consider how abysmal we were last season (very nearly the worst ever in the Premier League to remind people if they need reminding) and that we were always going to lose our 3 best players from that almost worst ever Prem team (KWP, Fernandes, Dibling), I don't think it is that surprising we have not hit the ground running this season. Yes, we have signed some players who should be good at this level, but most of them were only signed very late in the window due to a couple of the above only leaving late on.

We are in a lowly position but the points gap is not huge to the top end of the table and we have played 9 games out of a 46 game season. In my opinion, it would be stupidity to press the panic button at this point, but obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion. 

[Saint Pete]

Forgot we also lost Ramsdale so 4 of the almost worst ever Prem team. 

Edited Thursday at 21:12 by Saint Pete

[sledger]

we have 2 basic problems,we cant keep a clean sheet and  manning is a big part of that problem and now he doesnt attack either,the other is we move the ball far to slowly nobody takes a chance with a pass forward teams have loads of time to set up against us,we never knock the ball into space and turn teams round,if we did this teams would sit back and give us more space.Quite frankly if you take away the messing around in the 6 yard box we are exactly the same as last season

[skintsaint]

2 hours ago, Saint Pete said:

But if you consider how abysmal we were last season (very nearly the worst ever in the Premier League to remind people if they need reminding) and that we were always going to lose our 3 best players from that almost worst ever Prem team (KWP, Fernandes, Dibling), I don't think it is that surprising we have not hit the ground running this season.

That Derby team we nearly took the record from for shittest amount of points, they never did recover - think they nearly got relegated again quite a few seasons in a row, even with parachute money.

[Weston Super Saint]

13 hours ago, kitch said:

He's been here 5 mins, really. I'd be amazed if any of these were WS signings. Downes had been on the club's radar for several years.

Is that supposed to be a good thing?

'Several years' and nobody worked out he's fucking shit?

[kitch]

3 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Is that supposed to be a good thing?

'Several years' and nobody worked out he's fucking shit?

When did I say it was? I responding to the notion that all the new signings were sanctioned by Still, when they clearly weren't.

[sledger]

i so want will still and my team to do well but i have to be honest he worries me

[Saint Billy]

Perhaps it's time for a manager to set up a side to play to its players strengths rather than the managers preferred way of playing. 

[CSA96]

8 minutes ago, Saint Billy said:

Perhaps it's time for a manager to set up a side to play to its players strengths rather than the managers preferred way of playing. 

Huh?

[Willo of Whiteley]

McCarthy; Jelert, Woods, Quarshie, Manning; Charles, Jander, Azaz; Armstrong, Archer, Scienza

Best team we’ve got in a 4-3-3 formation. Fraser unfortunate to not be in that.

[Saint Fan CaM]

On 09/10/2025 at 08:29, AlexLaw76 said:

Not good enough for what?

If they were from the last time round, they were good enough to get promoted, with additions like Azaz and Fellows who are genuine top players for this league. Ffs, we have loaned out players good enough for teams currently much better than us 

Scienza looks good, as does Jander

if Russell Martin could get a tune out of Che Adams, who was considered a joke the last time were relegated, it can be beyond expectations that we expect Still to be much better than we have seen so far.

 

Why is this bollox still being spouted? That team only just scraped the play-offs and importantly were assembled to play slug football to suit dear old Russell’s system. There have been too many players still featuring from that lot that are just not suited or good enough for what Still’s system…e.g. McCarthy, Stephens, THB, Manning, Downes, Fraser.

Edited Friday at 21:47 by Saint Fan CaM