Hull 3-1 Saints - Match Thread

[lambtiss]

12 hours ago, Andrew Watson said:

No more excuses, must win game.

 

2 hours ago, wild-saint said:

What happens if we dont win? 

More excuses

[lambtiss]

57 minutes ago, Graffito said:

We keep getting reports of Downes being ill. We know his form has suffered. Maybe it’s true that he’s ill and the illness has affected his form. Just a thought. 

Fair enough. But, if that's true then we need to replace him because his form isn't good enough at the moment. 

 

I'd like to see how Jander does.

[The Kraken]

1 hour ago, Graffito said:

We keep getting reports of Downes being ill. We know his form has suffered. Maybe it’s true that he’s ill and the illness has affected his form. Just a thought. 

Its exactly what the SFC release said, Still said that he has problems with his immune system.

[RedArmy]

12 hours ago, SW11_Saint said:

He has an underlying long term illness…

imissrussellmartinitis? 

[Osvaldorama]

If he’s been truly ill and having long-term problems then that would explain his drop off in form and I feel bad for him. 

Not his fault and I hope he’s ok. 

[Saint Fan CaM]

16 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Its exactly what the SFC release said, Still said that he has problems with his immune system.

HIV?

(He’s Indeterminately Vapid) 😉😂

[saintant]

Seems likely that Casper Jander is going to start this game in place of Downes. Will Still talked him up in the press conference so it will be interesting to see how he performs and what influence he has on our play. I'm hoping he's going to make a real difference although it may take him a few games to really show his worth. Often one key player can transform a side and maybe he will do so for us because we need a spark to get us going particularly after Sunday's dismal spectacle.

[stfrancisofbenali]

1 hour ago, The Kraken said:

Its exactly what the SFC release said, Still said that he has problems with his immune system.

So why did he start V Pompey?

[AlexLaw76]

15 minutes ago, stfrancisofbenali said:

So why did he start V Pompey?

Because the was not sick then?

[Turkish]

I had to lol at Still describing getting Russball out of the system as like trying to give up smoking 😂

[Saint_Jonny]

45 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I had to lol at Still describing getting Russball out of the system as like trying to give up smoking 😂

Same. Great insight into the mindset of the players and some of them feeling like they are going to get a telling off for playing a ball forwards instead of backwards. 

[RedArmy]

2 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

If he’s been truly ill and having long-term problems then that would explain his drop off in form and I feel bad for him. 

Not his fault and I hope he’s ok. 

A drop off in form would be explainable, a drop off in effort and commitment is not explainable. 

[saintant]

9 minutes ago, Saint_Jonny said:

Same. Great insight into the mindset of the players and some of them feeling like they are going to get a telling off for playing a ball forwards instead of backwards. 

Yeah, seems hard to believe and indicates that some of our players are not performing with the freedom required. How can you be afraid to play a forward pass! Maybe some of them need therapy rather than coaching.

[Football Special]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

I had to lol at Still describing getting Russball out of the system as like trying to give up smoking 😂

It's addictive and some people just can't do it 

[macca155]

10 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

A drop off in form would be explainable, a drop off in effort and commitment is not explainable. 

I think that's a bit unfair, I've not seen any drop off in effort or commitment from him. Reports of him having an underlying condition would fit with what we are seeing.

Modern pros maintain at peak condition, it doesn't take much to knock them off that.

I think he is a valuable player to us, but clearly a bit out of sorts atm. Part of that is playing in a different system. I'm sure given time and decent coaching, he'll adapt his game. However for the moment he needs to get well. 

Fortunately Janger and Aribo can cover. Then he'll need to fight for his place.

[Matty's Caddy]

Got 2 nicks away travel coach tickets for hull tomorrow going for half price if anyone interested…..

[Toussaint]

2 hours ago, macca155 said:

I think that's a bit unfair, I've not seen any drop off in effort or commitment from him. Reports of him having an underlying condition would fit with what we are seeing.

Modern pros maintain at peak condition, it doesn't take much to knock them off that.

I think he is a valuable player to us, but clearly a bit out of sorts atm. Part of that is playing in a different system. I'm sure given time and decent coaching, he'll adapt his game. However for the moment he needs to get well. 

Fortunately Janger and Aribo can cover. Then he'll need to fight for his place.

Is Aribo coming back into the squad? I’m not his biggest fan, he blows too hot and cold for me, but I did think he would have been good to have on the pitch against Pompey. 

[Baird of the land]

On 18/09/2025 at 14:23, AlexLaw76 said:

Will still prezzer….

I hope the Hull game is better than the last one, we hope it is an open game

 

 

Is Still not aware that most teams in this league will be looking to make the games as scrappy as possible. Staggering naive to be going in with i hope opposition will be totally stupid and indulge him.

 

[saintant]

2 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

Is Aribo coming back into the squad? I’m not his biggest fan, he blows too hot and cold for me, but I did think he would have been good to have on the pitch against Pompey. 

Well if we're paying his wages he should be available for selection although it's up to Will Still to decide whether he merits a place in the squad. I'd say he does because from what we've seen so far it's a low bar.

[kitch]

8 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

Is Still not aware that most teams in this league will be looking to make the games as scrappy as possible. Staggering naive to be going in with i hope opposition will be totally stupid and indulge him.

 

Hull did try to play last time we came up against them, in fairness. Hopefully they do the same again (no idea if they have the same manager nowadays)

[Toadhall Saint]

3 hours ago, Football Special said:

It's addictive and some people just can't do it 

Costs a fortune 

[Football Special]

1 hour ago, kitch said:

Hull did try to play last time we came up against them, in fairness. Hopefully they do the same again (no idea if they have the same manager nowadays)

They destroyed us at St Mary’s,  most of the players and manager have changed since then though 

[Charlie Wayman]

5 hours ago, Turkish said:

I had to lol at Still describing getting Russball out of the system as like trying to give up smoking 😂

On the evidence of last week's match, he's made excellent progress. Nearly all our forward passes went to opposition players dressed in blue and white. 

Prediction? 0-0 again

Edited 23 hours ago by Charlie Wayman

[Pamplemousse]

29 minutes ago, Football Special said:

They destroyed us at St Mary’s,  most of the players and manager have changed since then though 

They blew their load trying to get the play-offs and finished 7th. They're definitely relegation contenders, we really have to win games like this. Tomorrow will tell us whether we're a promotion candidate or destined for mid-table this season.

[macca155]

2 hours ago, Toussaint said:

Is Aribo coming back into the squad? I’m not his biggest fan, he blows too hot and cold for me, but I did think he would have been good to have on the pitch against Pompey. 

I should hope so, Saints are paying him enough. Agree he is a decent sub off the bench, if he gets his chance then it is down to him to claim a place. Although probably considering a move to Saudi, if that window is still open.

[die Mannyschaft]

9 hours ago, lambtiss said:

 

More excuses

Can we transfer to a darts league. Surely they could hit that target. Would have to do fitness training and no injuries unless they drop a pint or large kebab on thier foot.

[die Mannyschaft]

2 hours ago, Toussaint said:

Is Aribo coming back into the squad? I’m not his biggest fan, he blows too hot and cold for me, but I did think he would have been good to have on the pitch against Pompey. 

Why was he on screen showing as sub coming on during Pompey game. 

[SNSUN]

1 hour ago, macca155 said:

I should hope so, Saints are paying him enough. Agree he is a decent sub off the bench, if he gets his chance then it is down to him to claim a place. Although probably considering a move to Saudi, if that window is still open.

Shuts on Tuesday, so still time for Saudi clubs to splash the cash.

[Barton Saint]

Well we need a result tomorrow as Boro are looking very good and will be a real challenge next week 

[Turkish]

DEF and DEF Yoof travelling over tomorrow morning. I don’t want to say when as we’re going to slip the old bill. loose lips sink ships but Those that know know and I’ll be signing a few autographs and a photos at the agreed location from 11.30am. 

word is Ronnie Pickering is shitting himself after being heard shooting his mouth off. Now the DEF are travelling he has cleaned our B&Q of wood and nails as he’s boarded his house up to hide from Europe’s most notorious firm. 
 

 

[Dr Who?]

8 hours ago, Turkish said:

I had to lol at Still describing getting Russball out of the system as like trying to give up smoking 😂

Seemed alright hoofing it aimlessly up to Archer in the first half last week! That worked well. 

[Dr Who?]

2 hours ago, Pamplemousse said:

They blew their load trying to get the play-offs and finished 7th. They're definitely relegation contenders, we really have to win games like this. Tomorrow will tell us whether we're a promotion candidate or destined for mid-table this season.

I said this in the Watford game, oh and last week, so this time it really will. 😉 

[bpsaint]

2 hours ago, die Mannyschaft said:

Why was he on screen showing as sub coming on during Pompey game. 

That was amusing, I’d forgotten about that. The screen and announcer read out Joe Aribo coming on, and then a big lanky white man in Ross Stewart runs on the pitch instead.

[vectraman]

4 hours ago, Turkish said:

DEF and DEF Yoof travelling over tomorrow morning. I don’t want to say when as we’re going to slip the old bill. loose lips sink ships but Those that know know and I’ll be signing a few autographs and a photos at the agreed location from 11.30am. 

word is Ronnie Pickering is shitting himself after being heard shooting his mouth off. Now the DEF are travelling he has cleaned our B&Q of wood and nails as he’s boarded his house up to hide from Europe’s most notorious firm. 
 

 

Translation into English 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 please!

[macca155]

10 hours ago, Barton Saint said:

Well we need a result tomorrow as Boro are looking very good and will be a real challenge next week 

Need to get away from, 'we must win this game'. It just puts added pressure on everybody, and I'm one of the worst for doing it. 

The aim is to win obviously, but there are other things to look out for.

Another solid defensive performance is a must. That's how promotion campaigns are built.

Evidence that the new signings are acclimatising and making an impact. 

We need to see the ball move forwards, and quickly through the midfield. A midfield of Azaz, Charles, and Janger, really should be bossing every game.

That is pretty much what Still has been saying. I guess if those areas improve, the wins will come.

Edited 11 hours ago by macca155

[BarberSaint]

5 hours ago, vectraman said:

Translation into English 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 please!

 

"Look at me" (aka bullshit). Suggest ignore those posts from him and just concentrate on the good ones.

[CB Fry]

10 hours ago, Turkish said:

DEF and DEF Yoof travelling over tomorrow morning. I don’t want to say when as we’re going to slip the old bill. loose lips sink ships but Those that know know and I’ll be signing a few autographs and a photos at the agreed location from 11.30am. 

word is Ronnie Pickering is shitting himself after being heard shooting his mouth off. Now the DEF are travelling he has cleaned our B&Q of wood and nails as he’s boarded his house up to hide from Europe’s most notorious firm. 
 

 

At 0815 this morning, the Stoat has left the Den. 

[Sheaf Saint]

Torrential rain forecast across the north of England today, with a yellow warning of possible flooding (although Hull is just outside the warning area according to the Met office).

I reckon there's a strong chance this could be postponed.

[sfc4prem]

2 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Torrential rain forecast across the north of England today, with a yellow warning of possible flooding (although Hull is just outside the warning area according to the Met office).

I reckon there's a strong chance this could be postponed.

Good stuff. Gives the players more time to gel on the training ground.

[Turkish]

5 hours ago, vectraman said:

Translation into English 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 please!

Bro and Mandems gotta dodge the feds as we are bare faces on da manner.

ronnie Pickering been disrespecting my Gs and we is gonna bust open his blud clot so he’s gone into bare lock down as he’s a pussy clot 

You get me cus?

[Turkish]

I’m about 60 miles from Hull and the weather is absolutely horrendous. Rain has eased off for a bit but up until about 8.30 it was torrential. Safe travels for those heading up, not going to be a nice drive 

[Zorba]

If Casper makes an appearance, let’s hope he shows more spirit than his frightfully inept predecessor. 

 

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

1 hour ago, macca155 said:

Need to get away from, 'we must win this game'. It just puts added pressure on everybody, and I'm one of the worst for doing it. 

The aim is to win obviously, but there are other things to look out for.

Another solid defensive performance is a must. That's how promotion campaigns are built.

Evidence that the new signings are acclimatising and making an impact. 

We need to see the ball move forwards, and quickly through the midfield. A midfield of Azaz, Charles, and Janger, really should be bossing every game.

That is pretty much what Still has been saying. I guess if those areas improve, the wins will come.

Why cant Saints do both? I'm just tired with the excuses. 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by JohnnyShearer2.0

[markr27]

potentially today, the front 6, and therefore the majority of the eleven, will have little or no experience of the Martin way of playing.
Shea Charles was out on loan last season, Fraser was seemingly ostracized for the majority of the season, and Stewart was quarantined in the treatment room. 
Jander, Fellows and Aziz, along with the RB as well, all newbies.

 

[VectisSaint]

11 hours ago, Dr Who? said:

Seemed alright hoofing it aimlessly up to Archer in the first half last week! That worked well. 

When did Russball ever involve hoofing? He also wasn't alright about it, if you saw his post match interviews, laid the blame squarely at the players and sorted it out (largely) at half time.

[Paul_B]

Come on guys......it's JANDER not Janger. And AZAZ not Aziz. It's not difficult.

Prediction - 1-0 Hull.

[benjii]

The "Russball" reference shit needs to stop. 

Still is the third manager since Russ.

On top of that, it's not as though our players have all been schooled in "Russball" throughout their career. We had Russball for a grand total of 1.5 seasons. 

The notion that they are so broken by this that they aren’t capable of implementing a different game is idiotic. It is an excuse and it betrays a communication and coaching failure from the current regime.

[benjii]

7 minutes ago, Paul_B said:

Come on guys......it's JANDER not Janger. And AZAZ not Aziz. It's not difficult.

Prediction - 1-0 Hull.

Janker 68, asst Ajizz

Edited 9 hours ago by benjii

[Saint NL]

22 minutes ago, Paul_B said:

Come on guys......it's JANDER not Janger. And AZAZ not Aziz. It's not difficult.

Prediction - 1-0 Hull.

Bazuna says hello

[obelisk]

An average of a point a game is acceptable if trying to cling on in the Prem League. It's totally unacceptable if the plan is to finish in the top two. The complacency needs to end with the last vestiges of that Russball losing mentality exorcised from now on. No more excuses. Points at this stage of the season have same value as those at the end when the final tally is counted. A win is required today.