Derby 1-1 Saints - Match Thread

[StrangelyBrown]

2 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Lots of people with great hindsight abilities on here - as usual. We bought a big striker but the  big striker didn’t score loads immediately . Must have been the wrong big striker so yes it’s SR fault. Of course that’s what it is you feeble minded idiots.

Same People who predicted Damion would flop. There’s always some who like a stopped watch predict failure in every recruit. Well good for you he’s not playing well. 

And who in addition suggested we should buy, let me see who is a current big CF scoring lots of goals at the moment and in our price range?? Well that’s not your job is it. It’s the morons at SR job isn’t it. 

Same people thought DD was a bad buy @ £8m. Who predicted RS would never recover and if he did would relapse with a hammy. Congratulate yourselves on your gifts if prophecy why don’t you. 
 

I might be wrong but I suspect DD has got worse as a player since he joined. Somethings not right. I think it’s psychological - But that’s SR fault not his I imagine you’ll say. Or Will still fault not him. Or both but mostly SR cuz we ought to have bought 3 big guys or maybe one £25m guy and a spare in case he broke his leg all who wants to join the second worst ever EPL team.

Captain Hindsight’s smart after the events the lot of you. 

We spent £8m on potential. For that I'd expect to see just a little bit of potential. Just one little glimmer.

However he can't press, has no touch, no composure, is lazy, misses absolute sitters, is easily pushed off the ball ...

What is it you think hindsight has got to do with anything?? Very bizarre post.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

2 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Lots of people with great hindsight abilities on here - as usual. We bought a big striker but the  big striker didn’t score loads immediately . Must have been the wrong big striker so yes it’s SR fault. Of course that’s what it is you feeble minded idiots.

Same People who predicted Damion would flop. There’s always some who like a stopped watch predict failure in every recruit. Well good for you he’s not playing well. 

And who in addition suggested we should buy, let me see who is a current big CF scoring lots of goals at the moment and in our price range?? Well that’s not your job is it. It’s the morons at SR job isn’t it. 

Same people thought DD was a bad buy @ £8m. Who predicted RS would never recover and if he did would relapse with a hammy. Congratulate yourselves on your gifts if prophecy why don’t you. 
 

I might be wrong but I suspect DD has got worse as a player since he joined. Somethings not right. I think it’s psychological - But that’s SR fault not his I imagine you’ll say. Or Will still fault not him. Or both but mostly SR cuz we ought to have bought 3 big guys or maybe one £25m guy and a spare in case he broke his leg all who wants to join the second worst ever EPL team.

Captain Hindsight’s smart after the events the lot of you. 

It's always the fans fault with you isn't it? Have you ever considered the possibilty that the club have fucked up?

[Tamesaint]

7 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

What does that mean?

Still has had all pre season, massive budget, top Championship players brought in, to complement some very good championship players we already had.

The mess...little to do with

Edwards, Quarshie, Wellington, Jelert, Roeslov, Charles, Jander, Scienza, Azaz, Fellows, Downs (I know)....

Wood and Stewart barely played last year, Arma went out on loan (but is a proven top scorer in this league).......

Nearly half of those players have only been in the building for 5 weeks and several of them have been away for international breaks. No wonder we play like a bunch of individuals rather than a team. 

Last season we were unbelievably shite. Really shite. Whoever took us on had a heck of a task. We need to get better but  I think we are improving. Lets give him time and not do a Watford and look for our 5th manager in less than 10 months. 

[Teamsaint1]

32 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

It's always the fans fault with you isn't it? Have you ever considered the possibilty that the club have fucked up?

One of the lessons of the utter ( and unnecessary) shambles of last season was that , terrible though we were, and ordinary ( very ) though Onuachu was at PL level , when we had an actual CF who could do at least some CF things, we looked  rather more like a proper football team.

 

With the money at our disposal this season, we didn't need to buy a CF genius , but we did need somebody who could be there to do a proper job when Ross Stewart isn't . If we could have got hold of somebody of real class so much the better, but if not, somebody decent would have been enough to spearhead a proper promotion challenge .

So you are right.

[lambtiss]

3 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Lots of people with great hindsight abilities on here - as usual. We bought a big striker but the  big striker didn’t score loads immediately . Must have been the wrong big striker so yes it’s SR fault. Of course that’s what it is you feeble minded idiots.

Same People who predicted Damion would flop. There’s always some who like a stopped watch predict failure in every recruit. Well good for you he’s not playing well. 

And who in addition suggested we should buy, let me see who is a current big CF scoring lots of goals at the moment and in our price range?? Well that’s not your job is it. It’s the morons at SR job isn’t it. 

Same people thought DD was a bad buy @ £8m. Who predicted RS would never recover and if he did would relapse with a hammy. Congratulate yourselves on your gifts if prophecy why don’t you. 

I might be wrong but I suspect DD has got worse as a player since he joined. Somethings not right. I think it’s psychological - But that’s SR fault not his I imagine you’ll say. Or Will still fault not him. Or both but mostly SR cuz we ought to have bought 3 big guys or maybe one £25m guy and a spare in case he broke his leg all who wants to join the second worst ever EPL team.

Captain Hindsight’s smart after the events the lot of you. 

I assume you are on a windup here. If not, then you must be the "feeble minded idiot"  that you brand a huge number of Saints fans as.

Addressing, your first point, Downs is clearly not ready for the competitive and physical nature of the championship. His touch is poor, his positional sense is woeful. Any decent scout should have seen that he is not ready for this league, even as backup.

Point 2, we didn't need a CF who scores lots of goals. What we needed was a strong, physical target man who can hold the ball up, link the play and create space for  goalscorers such as Armstrong and Archer. This is what Che Adams did so well for us. Anyone can see Downs is not that player. 

Point 3, there are plenty of players that could have filled that role. Three teams that we have already played have shown this, Derby have bought Carlton Morris, Wrexham have bought Kieffer Moore, Hull have bought McBurnie.

These are all players that SR would never buy because they only buy players with a view to resale value, not who might just do a job for a season and get us promotion.

Point 4, it didn't require visionary skills to predict that someone| who has had a series of recurring injuries for two years, including hamstring, would breakdown again. Especially when, after not having many minutes this season we played him 3 times in 8 days.

 

I don't normally respond to other posters in this way, but your post riled me with it's idiocy. Congratulations, if that was your aim. Although, it does feel too easy taking aim at your points, rather like attacking a dead sheep 

[Wade Garrett]

4 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Lots of people with great hindsight abilities on here - as usual. We bought a big striker but the  big striker didn’t score loads immediately . Must have been the wrong big striker so yes it’s SR fault. Of course that’s what it is you feeble minded idiots.

Same People who predicted Damion would flop. There’s always some who like a stopped watch predict failure in every recruit. Well good for you he’s not playing well. 

And who in addition suggested we should buy, let me see who is a current big CF scoring lots of goals at the moment and in our price range?? Well that’s not your job is it. It’s the morons at SR job isn’t it. 

Same people thought DD was a bad buy @ £8m. Who predicted RS would never recover and if he did would relapse with a hammy. Congratulate yourselves on your gifts if prophecy why don’t you. 
 

I might be wrong but I suspect DD has got worse as a player since he joined. Somethings not right. I think it’s psychological - But that’s SR fault not his I imagine you’ll say. Or Will still fault not him. Or both but mostly SR cuz we ought to have bought 3 big guys or maybe one £25m guy and a spare in case he broke his leg all who wants to join the second worst ever EPL team.

Captain Hindsight’s smart after the events the lot of you. 

You are talking your normal bullshit then.  

[Oh no Mick Mills]

4 hours ago, gio1saints said:

4 hours ago, gio1saints said:

And who in addition suggested we should buy, let me see who is a current big CF scoring lots of goals at the moment and in our price range?? Well that’s not your job is it. It’s the morons at SR job isn’t it. 


Paul Onuachu? 

 

 

 

[AlexLaw76]

3 hours ago, egg said:

Kieffer Moore was never the answer, although he'd have been a better answer than Downs. 

In another way, we probably could have got Carlton Morris, Kieffer Moore and Ollie McBurnie for no more than we paid for Downs...

One of them alone would have scored more goals than Downs this season at Saints, and all would have offered plenty for a promotion chasing teams at different points of the season.

[Convict Colony]

not seen why but why is still taking off the best players on the pitch when subbed, fellows and then Leo ?

Edited Sunday at 19:23 by Convict Colony

[Gloucester Saint]

4 hours ago, StrangelyBrown said:

We spent £8m on potential. For that I'd expect to see just a little bit of potential. Just one little glimmer.

However he can't press, has no touch, no composure, is lazy, misses absolute sitters, is easily pushed off the ball ...

What is it you think hindsight has got to do with anything?? Very bizarre post.

And Derby’s US striker whilst raw, did cause our centres halves issues yesterday and did score as well. For £5.8m. That’s what happens when you actually scout players properly in person several times and not just use AI.

[Harry_SFC]

Just now, Gloucester Saint said:

And Derby’s US striker whilst raw, did cause our centres halves issues yesterday and did score as well. For £5.8m. That’s what happens when you actually scout players properly in person several times and not just use AI.

He has been ahead of Downs in the US pecking order for a while. 

Why we thought signing Downs who can't get ahead of Derbys striker in the national side would be a good idea, who knows. 

[StrangelyBrown]

46 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

He has been ahead of Downs in the US pecking order for a while. 

Why we thought signing Downs who can't get ahead of Derbys striker in the national side would be a good idea, who knows. 

Because Spors is a talent spotting genius and not at all a massive fraud?

[Saint Fan CaM]

8 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Lots of people with great hindsight abilities on here - as usual. We bought a big striker but the  big striker didn’t score loads immediately . Must have been the wrong big striker so yes it’s SR fault. Of course that’s what it is you feeble minded idiots.

Same People who predicted Damion would flop. There’s always some who like a stopped watch predict failure in every recruit. Well good for you he’s not playing well. 

And who in addition suggested we should buy, let me see who is a current big CF scoring lots of goals at the moment and in our price range?? Well that’s not your job is it. It’s the morons at SR job isn’t it. 

Same people thought DD was a bad buy @ £8m. Who predicted RS would never recover and if he did would relapse with a hammy. Congratulate yourselves on your gifts if prophecy why don’t you. 
 

I might be wrong but I suspect DD has got worse as a player since he joined. Somethings not right. I think it’s psychological - But that’s SR fault not his I imagine you’ll say. Or Will still fault not him. Or both but mostly SR cuz we ought to have bought 3 big guys or maybe one £25m guy and a spare in case he broke his leg all who wants to join the second worst ever EPL team.

Captain Hindsight’s smart after the events the lot of you. 

You alright hun?

PS: climb down from your pedestal and don’t be such a twat blaming posters on here for voicing opinions - it’s a fans forum FFS. There are some of us who recognised early signs that this season was not going to be barnstorming top of the table affair….no hindsight.

[leeham_69]

4 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

In another way, we probably could have got Carlton Morris, Kieffer Moore and Ollie McBurnie for no more than we paid for Downs...

One of them alone would have scored more goals than Downs this season at Saints, and all would have offered plenty for a promotion chasing teams at different points of the season.

Morris looks a very good signing for Derby, best of the 3 you mentioned (though I agree all would have improved our team substantially). I find it hard to believe we aren't a more attractive prospect than Derby - so very frustrating we weren't in for him. I think we should start flexing our supposed financial muscle and taking the best players off clubs around us.

[saintant]

9 hours ago, leeham_69 said:

Morris looks a very good signing for Derby, best of the 3 you mentioned (though I agree all would have improved our team substantially). I find it hard to believe we aren't a more attractive prospect than Derby - so very frustrating we weren't in for him. I think we should start flexing our supposed financial muscle and taking the best players off clubs around us.

Carlton Morris should have been a no brainer for us and would have been perfect - bustling, strong centre forward who scores his fair share of goals. But no, let's bring in the freshman USA striker who one day may make us a few quid but, in the interim years, is frigging useless.

[Dman]

31 minutes ago, saintant said:

Carlton Morris should have been a no brainer for us and would have been perfect - bustling, strong centre forward who scores his fair share of goals. But no, let's bring in the freshman USA striker who one day may make us a few quid but, in the interim years, is frigging useless.

Can you imagine this place if we had signed Carlton Morris ffs. Still came in with a view that we'd play front foot press, attacking football. Key to that is getting runners inbehind. 

Morris, is absolutley not suited to how we want to play. We've kind of stumbled across that hitting it long to a big man because his orginal system / intention didn't work. 

Downs, whilst has been disappointing, in the espanyol pre-season game, he showed what he can do when we play to his strengths. 

[benjii]

1 hour ago, Dman said:

Still came in with a view that we'd play front foot press, attacking football. 

Did he? Hopefully we give it a go sometime!

[Totton Saint]

I would not mind loosing so much if they played entertaing football. That's why we go to matches or watch remotely - to be entertained. So who is to blame for the timid fare served up.

A real enigma that's for sure.

Edited Monday at 10:43 by Totton Saint
extra word

[DT]

15 hours ago, Convict Colony said:

not seen why but why is still taking off the best players on the pitch when subbed, fellows and then Leo ?

Because Will's little computer told him to do that, OBVS

He manages our team like it's all a simulation and seems confused when reality intervenes. Need to get shot of him quickly.

[Baird of the land]

11 hours ago, leeham_69 said:

Morris looks a very good signing for Derby, best of the 3 you mentioned (though I agree all would have improved our team substantially). I find it hard to believe we aren't a more attractive prospect than Derby - so very frustrating we weren't in for him. I think we should start flexing our supposed financial muscle and taking the best players off clubs around us.

Unfortunately saints seem so wedded to the idea of resale value that they ignore a very solid signing like Morris.

[saintant]

2 hours ago, Dman said:

Can you imagine this place if we had signed Carlton Morris ffs. Still came in with a view that we'd play front foot press, attacking football. Key to that is getting runners inbehind. 

Morris, is absolutley not suited to how we want to play. We've kind of stumbled across that hitting it long to a big man because his orginal system / intention didn't work. 

Downs, whilst has been disappointing, in the espanyol pre-season game, he showed what he can do when we play to his strengths. 

Morris would have soon won the fans over by banging in goals, he's not perfect but decent for this league - not so sure about the guy you describe as showing what he can do when we play to his strengths as that strike was clearly the exception rather than the rule.

[Osvaldorama]

2 hours ago, Dman said:

Can you imagine this place if we had signed Carlton Morris ffs. Still came in with a view that we'd play front foot press, attacking football. Key to that is getting runners inbehind. 

Morris, is absolutley not suited to how we want to play. We've kind of stumbled across that hitting it long to a big man because his orginal system / intention didn't work. 

Downs, whilst has been disappointing, in the espanyol pre-season game, he showed what he can do when we play to his strengths. 

I don’t agree with this at all. 
 

If we had signed a solid, unspectacular championship level target man like those listed, most fans would have been buzzing.

We haven’t had anyone resembling a striker for such a long time, it’s easy to please us. 

And with respect, who cares about pre-season? BBD looked like a world beater in pre-season. In competitive matches, SR have completely fucked up the number one priority.. again. 

[LiberalCommunist]

Every other team I watch, has a plan. That's what killing me. Some have some right cloggers, but they look like they understand what they are doing. 

We look like we spend our technical training session, circling the 'where's the ball' pull out in the back of a news of the world paper.

Will Still won't make it to the new year, unless he starts doing something revolutionary. I can't see him changing at all. Another dud manager pick I'm afraid. 

[gio1saints]

22 hours ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

It's always the fans fault with you isn't it? Have you ever considered the possibilty that the club have fucked up?

Damion Downs has not produced. Before he was bought I didn’t hear people saying buying tuis guy was a terrible call. Why ? Because it’s only a terrible call now he’s played bad in the matches he’s been given. THAT is why I call it expert hindsight.

Maybe you’ve still got a grudge against me because you live in a PO postcode and Im in SO so it’s your chance to take a free hit. Typical skate tactic of yours though must be said. Pile on when you are in numbers. 😭

[DT]

1 hour ago, LiberalCommunist said:

Every other team I watch, has a plan. That's what killing me. Some have some right cloggers, but they look like they understand what they are doing. 

We look like we spend our technical training session, circling the 'where's the ball' pull out in the back of a news of the world paper.

Will Still won't make it to the new year, unless he starts doing something revolutionary. I can't see him changing at all. Another dud manager pick I'm afraid. 

Have said this from the start and got pilloried for doing so. He's so obviously an emperor's new clothes appointment. We continue to be so convinced by people who interview well rather than who have a clear track record in doing what we need.

Break the bank and just get Sean Dyche. Will sort out defence, and from there we can start winning.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

1 hour ago, gio1saints said:

Damion Downs has not produced. Before he was bought I didn’t hear people saying buying tuis guy was a terrible call. Why ? Because it’s only a terrible call now he’s played bad in the matches he’s been given. THAT is why I call it expert hindsight.

Maybe you’ve still got a grudge against me because you live in a PO postcode and Im in SO so it’s your chance to take a free hit. Typical skate tactic of yours though must be said. Pile on when you are in numbers. 😭

What the fuck? A grudge against you because I live in a PO zone? That makes me a Pompey fan? You really are a fuckin twat. Not that I need to justify myself to you, but I grew up in Thornhill and Sholing. Ended up here because my now wife moved out here with her ex husband twenty odd years ago. You are fuckin pathetic.

[trousers]

1 hour ago, gio1saints said:

Damion Downs has not produced. Before he was bought I didn’t hear people saying buying tuis guy was a terrible call.

There was plenty of doubt and scepticism expressed about him on the Damian Downs thread before he signed...

 

[OldNick]

1 hour ago, gio1saints said:

Damion Downs has not produced. Before he was bought I didn’t hear people saying buying tuis guy was a terrible call. Why ? Because it’s only a terrible call now he’s played bad in the matches he’s been given. THAT is why I call it expert hindsight.

 

I knew nothing of Downs until he turned up. I saw his finish in the friendly and thought wow we have unearthered a gem, especially as Poch seemed to rate him, sadly he may be one of those gems that the Nigerian scammers try and sell on the internet to mug punters. I wonder if they have spors number 😀

I am not giving up on him as I truly hope he can put 2 fingers up at the fanbase, something that McCarthy could rightly donow as he has proved a lot of fans wrong.

[LiberalCommunist]

Alex has only proved he is better than Baz. Not that we were/are wrong. 

[Saint_clark]

1 minute ago, LiberalCommunist said:

Alex has only proved he is better than Baz. Not that we were/are wrong. 

A lot of fans said he was worse so he has proved them wrong. 

[LiberalCommunist]

Who said that! I want names.......

 

lol

[DT]

13 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

A lot of fans said he was worse so he has proved them wrong. 

McCarthy has nudged into the 'slightly less shit than Baz' bracket.

We continue to have a blind spot for keepers and strikers. And CDMs.

[benjii]

1 hour ago, LiberalCommunist said:

Who said that! I want names.......

 

lol

Probably Lighthouse.

[lambtiss]

3 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Damion Downs has not produced. Before he was bought I didn’t hear people saying buying tuis guy was a terrible call. Why ? Because it’s only a terrible call now he’s played bad in the matches he’s been given. THAT is why I call it expert hindsight.

Maybe you’ve still got a grudge against me because you live in a PO postcode and Im in SO so it’s your chance to take a free hit. Typical skate tactic of yours though must be said. Pile on when you are in numbers. 😭

I think the majority knew nothing about Downs and considered him a gamble. The main sentiment I recall is concern that we were gambling on an uknknown youngster, with  hardly any games behind him with  no experience in this country or league as a backup to a permanently injured Stewart. So, yes, because it was.a gamble on a vital role, it was a terrible call.

in your recent posts, you have labelled the majority of Saints fans  “feeble minded idiots” and suggested that someone has a grudge against you because they  live in a PO postcode. 

Your comments suggest that a village somewhere is missing an idiot.

[Gloucester Saint]

9 minutes ago, lambtiss said:

I think the majority knew nothing about Downs and considered him a gamble. The main sentiment I recall is concern that we were gambling on an uknknown youngster, with  hardly any games behind him with  no experience in this country or league as a backup to a permanently injured Stewart. So, yes, because it was.a gamble on a vital role, it was a terrible call.

in your recent posts, you have labelled the majority of Saints fans  “feeble minded idiots” and suggested that someone has a grudge against you because they  live in a PO postcode. 

Your comments suggest that a village somewhere is missing an idiot.

Either Alfie House or Adam Blackmore referred to Downs on social media as a ‘project’. I prefer the project from the US Derby purchased for £2m less who is also ahead of Damian Downs in the US national squad.

[CB Fry]

4 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Damion Downs has not produced. Before he was bought I didn’t hear people saying buying tuis guy was a terrible call. Why ? Because it’s only a terrible call now he’s played bad in the matches he’s been given. THAT is why I call it expert hindsight.

You do realise it is up to the club scouting and recruitment team to buy players that can contribute to the team, with goals and performances?

You do understand that?

What anyone on this forum said or didn't say in July when we bought him is utterly irrelevant.

Downs has proven to be an appalling purchase for what the club and team needed now, this season.

You using it to try and score points against people on this forum says more about you than anyone else.

Edited Monday at 18:34 by CB Fry

[Badger]

4 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Damion Downs has not produced. Before he was bought I didn’t hear people saying buying tuis guy was a terrible call. Why ? Because it’s only a terrible call now he’s played bad in the matches he’s been given. THAT is why I call it expert hindsight.

Maybe you’ve still got a grudge against me because you live in a PO postcode and Im in SO so it’s your chance to take a free hit. Typical skate tactic of yours though must be said. Pile on when you are in numbers. 😭

Not sure it is purely hindsight to question the sense in this signing. I think several raised concerns at the time.

Here’s my offering 30th June:

On 30/06/2025 at 20:06, Badger said:

Seems like a cross between  the signings of Mara, and Augustine Delgado.

Mara as in untried, but lots of potential so will surely kick on, won’t he ??? And be worth a bit to sell on.

Like Delgado, possibly one eye on the next summers WC and if he looks good there it’ll increase his value no end. Clear to see surely ?
 

Never mind the minor inconvenience of trying to get promoted this season. 

The only surprise is exactly how poor he has been. That has exceeded expectations. 

[Dark Munster]

3 hours ago, DT said:

McCarthy has nudged into the 'slightly less shit than Baz' bracket.

We continue to have a blind spot for keepers and strikers. And CDMs.

And managers.

What a clusterf**k SR are. 

[Whitey Grandad]

4 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

A lot of fans said he was worse so he has proved them wrong. 

Differently worse.

[Obstacle1]

12 hours ago, Dman said:

Can you imagine this place if we had signed Carlton Morris ffs. Still came in with a view that we'd play front foot press, attacking football. Key to that is getting runners inbehind. 

Morris, is absolutley not suited to how we want to play. We've kind of stumbled across that hitting it long to a big man because his orginal system / intention didn't work. 

Downs, whilst has been disappointing, in the espanyol pre-season game, he showed what he can do when we play to his strengths. 

Why do you think we have been unable to play to his strengths?

To be fair I've seen him trying to make runs in behind and the ball never comes...but the chances he has had he's fluffed as well

 

[musesaint]

Bournemouth and Brighton seem capable of putting together decent Premier League teams. That in itself tells you all you need to know about our ownership. It’s obvious that our ownership is the core of our problem. 

[StrangelyBrown]

15 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Damion Downs has not produced. Before he was bought I didn’t hear people saying buying tuis guy was a terrible call. Why ? Because it’s only a terrible call now he’s played bad in the matches he’s been given. THAT is why I call it expert hindsight.

Maybe you’ve still got a grudge against me because you live in a PO postcode and Im in SO so it’s your chance to take a free hit. Typical skate tactic of yours though must be said. Pile on when you are in numbers. 😭

So let me get this right so I understand your position?

If we sign a player who isn't good enough no one is allowed to call that out unless they called it before he was signed?

And if anyone does it is "expert hindsight" and not just someone making judgement based on a player being utterly dreadful?

Another very bizarre post.

[CB Fry]

11 minutes ago, StrangelyBrown said:

So let me get this right so I understand your position?

If we sign a player who isn't good enough no one is allowed to call that out unless they called it before he was signed?

And if anyone does it is "expert hindsight" and not just someone making judgement based on a player being utterly dreadful?

Another very bizarre post.

It doesn't take much imagination to envisage the righteous indignation of the exactly same poster in the summer berating people for writing off a player before he'd even kicked a ball for us. But apparently that's what we should have done.

[StrangelyBrown]

35 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

It doesn't take much imagination to envisage the righteous indignation of the exactly same poster in the summer berating people for writing off a player before he'd even kicked a ball for us. But apparently that's what we should have done.

I must remember to post a "they look shite but could have potential" for every new signing to give myself Gio's permission to slag them off or praise them later on.

[Sheaf Saint]

16 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Damion Downs has not produced. Before he was bought I didn’t hear people saying buying tuis guy was a terrible call. Why ? Because it’s only a terrible call now he’s played bad in the matches he’s been given. THAT is why I call it expert hindsight.

. 😭

What an utterly ridiculous argument. Have you considered that's because nobody hade even heard of him at that point? Plenty raised concerns about whether or not his profile and experience was what we needed for this season (which has obviously turned out to be correct). If any of us had voiced the same criticisms after his recent 'performances' at the point he was signed, you would no doubt be slagging those same people off for writing him off before even seeing him play. 

There was one poster though who did have some decent insight from his son who is a football scout and warned that he was fucking terrible. Calling @BARCELONASAINT to the thread please.

You know there are times when I see some decent points in your long and convoluted posts. But then there are times, such as in this instance, where you just make yourself look like a total idiot.

[Sheaf Saint]

14 hours ago, DT said:

McCarthy has nudged into the 'slightly less shit than Baz' bracket.

We continue to have a blind spot for keepers and strikers. And CDMs.

McCarthy has always been better than Baz. Easy to forget that he was our POTS in 2017/18. He has plenty of faults, no doubt. But he is actually a proper goalkeeper at least, which is something Baz will never be.

[Gloucester Saint]

5 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

McCarthy has always been better than Baz. Easy to forget that he was our POTS in 2017/18. He has plenty of faults, no doubt. But he is actually a proper goalkeeper at least, which is something Baz will never be.

Baz always looks like an outfield player in goal from the days of one or two subs allowed when the main keeper has been injured/sent off. 

[Sheaf Saint]

7 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Baz always looks like an outfield player in goal from the days of one or two subs allowed when the main keeper has been injured/sent off. 

Yep, I was thinking this recently that he reminds me of that time we had to stick Dexter Blackstock in goal against Newcastle. He always has that similar "rabbit in headlights" look about him, like he knows he's not really supposed to be there.

Macca has been infinitely better since he came in recently (Liverpool howler aside) and made more good saves at Derby of the kind that Baz never does. Long may it continue.

Edited Tuesday at 07:15 by Sheaf Saint

[BARCELONASAINT]

5 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

What an utterly ridiculous argument. Have you considered that's because nobody hade even heard of him at that point? Plenty raised concerns about whether or not his profile and experience was what we needed for this season (which has obviously turned out to be correct). If any of us had voiced the same criticisms after his recent 'performances' at the point he was signed, you would no doubt be slagging those same people off for writing him off before even seeing him play. 

There was one poster though who did have some decent insight from his son who is a football scout and warned that he was fucking terrible. Calling @BARCELONASAINT to the thread please.

You know there are times when I see some decent points in your long and convoluted posts. But then there are times, such as in this instance, where you just make yourself look like a total idiot.

You are quite correct Sheaf Saint. My son is the chief scout for an American outfit called Pheonix Rising. He mainly concentrates on looking at players from South America and the US and had seen a fair bit of DD because of him being in the United States International team setup. He was scathing of DD abilities when he heard we were signing him and was absolutely gobsmacked we had bought him. To be fair he is not very enthusiastic about many players coming out of the states! He started working as an football agent/scout in Venezuela tapping into a generally little known market and looking for players that could make the move to the MLS or the lesser European leagues. He quite quickly built a reputation for an eye for a player and whilst still living in Caracas, Venezuela is now working mainly for Pheonix Rising. (their manager is as bad as Martin and Still).

He has built up a lot of contacts both abroad and back here in the UK, Saints and Norwich to name but 2. We sometimes differ in opinions about players but i 100% trust his judgement on players.

[Tommy Mulgrew]

7 hours ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

My son is the chief scout for an American outfit called Pheonix Rising. He mainly concentrates on looking at players from South America and the US

Go on then, I’ll ask the obvious question: whom does he think we should sign (or should have signed) as a CF to set the Championship alight in Still’s preferred attacking style?

Answers on the back of a brown envelope, please.