Derby 1-1 Saints - Match Thread

[StrangelyBrown]

2 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Lots of people with great hindsight abilities on here - as usual. We bought a big striker but the  big striker didn’t score loads immediately . Must have been the wrong big striker so yes it’s SR fault. Of course that’s what it is you feeble minded idiots.

Same People who predicted Damion would flop. There’s always some who like a stopped watch predict failure in every recruit. Well good for you he’s not playing well. 

And who in addition suggested we should buy, let me see who is a current big CF scoring lots of goals at the moment and in our price range?? Well that’s not your job is it. It’s the morons at SR job isn’t it. 

Same people thought DD was a bad buy @ £8m. Who predicted RS would never recover and if he did would relapse with a hammy. Congratulate yourselves on your gifts if prophecy why don’t you. 
 

I might be wrong but I suspect DD has got worse as a player since he joined. Somethings not right. I think it’s psychological - But that’s SR fault not his I imagine you’ll say. Or Will still fault not him. Or both but mostly SR cuz we ought to have bought 3 big guys or maybe one £25m guy and a spare in case he broke his leg all who wants to join the second worst ever EPL team.

Captain Hindsight’s smart after the events the lot of you. 

We spent £8m on potential. For that I'd expect to see just a little bit of potential. Just one little glimmer.

However he can't press, has no touch, no composure, is lazy, misses absolute sitters, is easily pushed off the ball ...

What is it you think hindsight has got to do with anything?? Very bizarre post.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

2 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Lots of people with great hindsight abilities on here - as usual. We bought a big striker but the  big striker didn’t score loads immediately . Must have been the wrong big striker so yes it’s SR fault. Of course that’s what it is you feeble minded idiots.

Same People who predicted Damion would flop. There’s always some who like a stopped watch predict failure in every recruit. Well good for you he’s not playing well. 

And who in addition suggested we should buy, let me see who is a current big CF scoring lots of goals at the moment and in our price range?? Well that’s not your job is it. It’s the morons at SR job isn’t it. 

Same people thought DD was a bad buy @ £8m. Who predicted RS would never recover and if he did would relapse with a hammy. Congratulate yourselves on your gifts if prophecy why don’t you. 
 

I might be wrong but I suspect DD has got worse as a player since he joined. Somethings not right. I think it’s psychological - But that’s SR fault not his I imagine you’ll say. Or Will still fault not him. Or both but mostly SR cuz we ought to have bought 3 big guys or maybe one £25m guy and a spare in case he broke his leg all who wants to join the second worst ever EPL team.

Captain Hindsight’s smart after the events the lot of you. 

It's always the fans fault with you isn't it? Have you ever considered the possibilty that the club have fucked up?

[Tamesaint]

7 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

What does that mean?

Still has had all pre season, massive budget, top Championship players brought in, to complement some very good championship players we already had.

The mess...little to do with

Edwards, Quarshie, Wellington, Jelert, Roeslov, Charles, Jander, Scienza, Azaz, Fellows, Downs (I know)....

Wood and Stewart barely played last year, Arma went out on loan (but is a proven top scorer in this league).......

Nearly half of those players have only been in the building for 5 weeks and several of them have been away for international breaks. No wonder we play like a bunch of individuals rather than a team. 

Last season we were unbelievably shite. Really shite. Whoever took us on had a heck of a task. We need to get better but  I think we are improving. Lets give him time and not do a Watford and look for our 5th manager in less than 10 months. 

[Teamsaint1]

32 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

It's always the fans fault with you isn't it? Have you ever considered the possibilty that the club have fucked up?

One of the lessons of the utter ( and unnecessary) shambles of last season was that , terrible though we were, and ordinary ( very ) though Onuachu was at PL level , when we had an actual CF who could do at least some CF things, we looked  rather more like a proper football team.

 

With the money at our disposal this season, we didn't need to buy a CF genius , but we did need somebody who could be there to do a proper job when Ross Stewart isn't . If we could have got hold of somebody of real class so much the better, but if not, somebody decent would have been enough to spearhead a proper promotion challenge .

So you are right.

[lambtiss]

3 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Lots of people with great hindsight abilities on here - as usual. We bought a big striker but the  big striker didn’t score loads immediately . Must have been the wrong big striker so yes it’s SR fault. Of course that’s what it is you feeble minded idiots.

Same People who predicted Damion would flop. There’s always some who like a stopped watch predict failure in every recruit. Well good for you he’s not playing well. 

And who in addition suggested we should buy, let me see who is a current big CF scoring lots of goals at the moment and in our price range?? Well that’s not your job is it. It’s the morons at SR job isn’t it. 

Same people thought DD was a bad buy @ £8m. Who predicted RS would never recover and if he did would relapse with a hammy. Congratulate yourselves on your gifts if prophecy why don’t you. 

I might be wrong but I suspect DD has got worse as a player since he joined. Somethings not right. I think it’s psychological - But that’s SR fault not his I imagine you’ll say. Or Will still fault not him. Or both but mostly SR cuz we ought to have bought 3 big guys or maybe one £25m guy and a spare in case he broke his leg all who wants to join the second worst ever EPL team.

Captain Hindsight’s smart after the events the lot of you. 

I assume you are on a windup here. If not, then you must be the "feeble minded idiot"  that you brand a huge number of Saints fans as.

Addressing, your first point, Downs is clearly not ready for the competitive and physical nature of the championship. His touch is poor, his positional sense is woeful. Any decent scout should have seen that he is not ready for this league, even as backup.

Point 2, we didn't need a CF who scores lots of goals. What we needed was a strong, physical target man who can hold the ball up, link the play and create space for  goalscorers such as Armstrong and Archer. This is what Che Adams did so well for us. Anyone can see Downs is not that player. 

Point 3, there are plenty of players that could have filled that role. Three teams that we have already played have shown this, Derby have bought Carlton Morris, Wrexham have bought Kieffer Moore, Hull have bought McBurnie.

These are all players that SR would never buy because they only buy players with a view to resale value, not who might just do a job for a season and get us promotion.

Point 4, it didn't require visionary skills to predict that someone| who has had a series of recurring injuries for two years, including hamstring, would breakdown again. Especially when, after not having many minutes this season we played him 3 times in 8 days.

 

I don't normally respond to other posters in this way, but your post riled me with it's idiocy. Congratulations, if that was your aim. Although, it does feel too easy taking aim at your points, rather like attacking a dead sheep 

[Wade Garrett]

4 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Lots of people with great hindsight abilities on here - as usual. We bought a big striker but the  big striker didn’t score loads immediately . Must have been the wrong big striker so yes it’s SR fault. Of course that’s what it is you feeble minded idiots.

Same People who predicted Damion would flop. There’s always some who like a stopped watch predict failure in every recruit. Well good for you he’s not playing well. 

And who in addition suggested we should buy, let me see who is a current big CF scoring lots of goals at the moment and in our price range?? Well that’s not your job is it. It’s the morons at SR job isn’t it. 

Same people thought DD was a bad buy @ £8m. Who predicted RS would never recover and if he did would relapse with a hammy. Congratulate yourselves on your gifts if prophecy why don’t you. 
 

I might be wrong but I suspect DD has got worse as a player since he joined. Somethings not right. I think it’s psychological - But that’s SR fault not his I imagine you’ll say. Or Will still fault not him. Or both but mostly SR cuz we ought to have bought 3 big guys or maybe one £25m guy and a spare in case he broke his leg all who wants to join the second worst ever EPL team.

Captain Hindsight’s smart after the events the lot of you. 

You are talking your normal bullshit then.  

[Oh no Mick Mills]

4 hours ago, gio1saints said:

4 hours ago, gio1saints said:

And who in addition suggested we should buy, let me see who is a current big CF scoring lots of goals at the moment and in our price range?? Well that’s not your job is it. It’s the morons at SR job isn’t it. 


Paul Onuachu? 

 

 

 

[AlexLaw76]

3 hours ago, egg said:

Kieffer Moore was never the answer, although he'd have been a better answer than Downs. 

In another way, we probably could have got Carlton Morris, Kieffer Moore and Ollie McBurnie for no more than we paid for Downs...

One of them alone would have scored more goals than Downs this season at Saints, and all would have offered plenty for a promotion chasing teams at different points of the season.

[Convict Colony]

not seen why but why is still taking off the best players on the pitch when subbed, fellows and then Leo ?

Edited 3 hours ago by Convict Colony

[Gloucester Saint]

4 hours ago, StrangelyBrown said:

We spent £8m on potential. For that I'd expect to see just a little bit of potential. Just one little glimmer.

However he can't press, has no touch, no composure, is lazy, misses absolute sitters, is easily pushed off the ball ...

What is it you think hindsight has got to do with anything?? Very bizarre post.

And Derby’s US striker whilst raw, did cause our centres halves issues yesterday and did score as well. For £5.8m. That’s what happens when you actually scout players properly in person several times and not just use AI.

[Harry_SFC]

Just now, Gloucester Saint said:

And Derby’s US striker whilst raw, did cause our centres halves issues yesterday and did score as well. For £5.8m. That’s what happens when you actually scout players properly in person several times and not just use AI.

He has been ahead of Downs in the US pecking order for a while. 

Why we thought signing Downs who can't get ahead of Derbys striker in the national side would be a good idea, who knows. 

[StrangelyBrown]

46 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

He has been ahead of Downs in the US pecking order for a while. 

Why we thought signing Downs who can't get ahead of Derbys striker in the national side would be a good idea, who knows. 

Because Spors is a talent spotting genius and not at all a massive fraud?

[Saint Fan CaM]

8 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Lots of people with great hindsight abilities on here - as usual. We bought a big striker but the  big striker didn’t score loads immediately . Must have been the wrong big striker so yes it’s SR fault. Of course that’s what it is you feeble minded idiots.

Same People who predicted Damion would flop. There’s always some who like a stopped watch predict failure in every recruit. Well good for you he’s not playing well. 

And who in addition suggested we should buy, let me see who is a current big CF scoring lots of goals at the moment and in our price range?? Well that’s not your job is it. It’s the morons at SR job isn’t it. 

Same people thought DD was a bad buy @ £8m. Who predicted RS would never recover and if he did would relapse with a hammy. Congratulate yourselves on your gifts if prophecy why don’t you. 
 

I might be wrong but I suspect DD has got worse as a player since he joined. Somethings not right. I think it’s psychological - But that’s SR fault not his I imagine you’ll say. Or Will still fault not him. Or both but mostly SR cuz we ought to have bought 3 big guys or maybe one £25m guy and a spare in case he broke his leg all who wants to join the second worst ever EPL team.

Captain Hindsight’s smart after the events the lot of you. 

You alright hun?

PS: climb down from your pedestal and don’t be such a twat blaming posters on here for voicing opinions - it’s a fans forum FFS. There are some of us who recognised early signs that this season was not going to be barnstorming top of the table affair….no hindsight.