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23 minutes ago, stfrancisofbenali said:

Why did we concede possession for their goals? Because they pressed us high and knew that we would shit ourselves. Their game plan worked and with limited resources, they were far more streetwise, despite the fact we dominated possession. If you can’t see that, you don’t understand football. 

They didn't win the ball with their press and then score from it at all!

First one they had the ball in midfield, played a hopeful through ball that should be cut out 7/10 times and the remaining 3/10 goes straight through to the keeper.

Second one they have the ball and are attacking, take a hopeful shot from outside the area (which we should do more of) and it takes 2 deflections and comes off the post.

Third one Jander is under no real pressure, he just plays an absolute hospital pass to Wood.

They weren't really pressing, they just sat in a low block. But instead of just letting teams do that, I think we should actually give them possession in places that suit us, like throw ins deep in their own half, as it disrupts their defensive shape as they have to try and clear it. Kick for the corners!

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I thought we were very good until we gifted them the equaliser.

Then we were average, but still had 3 good chances to score, ( Archer has to go left instep to curl it in to the far post, not Sunday League smash it hard and hope).

Then we gifted them a 2nd, and from then on we were crap, no idea whatsoever. 

Archer held the ball up a few times in the first half, but I can't remember him touching the ball after his miss. 

We need to get Azaz into the team, either by droping Archer and playing him as a false nine, or by going to a flat back 4.

As to out forward recruitment, we should have just kept Mara. At least there was some skill in there at times. Archer, Diaz and Downes have not produced the same goals and assists combined. And we would have about £25 Million net left in the bank to buy someone who can lead the line.   

There are some good players in our squad, but no leadership and not greater than the sum of it's parts. 

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10 hours ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Pathetic , weak, spineless , error ridden , slow tempo performance yet again, full of elementary errors, missing chances, giving the ball away in critical areas. And then as expected, zero response or fight once we went behind.

 

As a club we are so unprofessional it’s untrue and that starts from the top. I’ve said it for over a year now, until these owners leave we are absolutely screwed, we will be in league one soon , you can absolutely guarantee that, if this lot stay in charge another couple of seasons. 
you won’t find more clueless owners anywhere in Europe. 

Don't give two F's about he team / manager tbh - same old shit week in week out, has been for years, You can't polish a turd -  loved league one and I'd renew my season ticket if we get there :-)

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1 minute ago, thornhill_saints said:

Don't give two F's about he team / manager tbh - shame old shit week in week out / loved league one and I'd renew my season ticket if we get there 🙂

Some people were saying that in the PL last season about the Championship, it’s only good when you’re winning…

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11 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

No, I think Manny is saying they came over and soon turned tail under a volley of abuse, coins and lighters.

Reality is that is what it takes to actually get some change. Our fans passive nature doesn't help. Dare say there were more clapping them off yesterday? 
Fans need to start acting, stop spending money at the silly fan zone, have a pop at the players/manager/Spors, and stop spending money on the club. Until that happens nothing will change. 

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17 minutes ago, Sarisbury Saint said:

I hope THB paid for his ticket to watch that game last night. 
As for Woods, the less said the better.

I think Woods has become the Fire Fighter but is slowly running out of hose because of the failings of those alongside him. 

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16 minutes ago, thornhill_saints said:

Don't give two F's about he team / manager tbh - same old shit week in week out, has been for years, You can't polish a turd -  loved league one and I'd renew my season ticket if we get there 🙂

Well of course you did. For our two seasons in League 1, particularly the second, we had one of the finest teams ever to grace that division, only some inept management stopped us winning the title by a wide margin.

A side stuffed full of potential internationals, some of whom would go on to play in World Cup competitions, and top sides..

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Putting my Saints frustrations, darkness/depression to one side.

I do think that with just 2 great additions -  1 very proven/decent big old school Striker & 1 Strong/Commanding Centre Back - we’d have a team that would get in play-offs at the very least

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11 minutes ago, JohnS said:

Putting my Saints frustrations, darkness/depression to one side.

I do think that with just 2 great additions -  1 very proven/decent big old school Striker & 1 Strong/Commanding Centre Back - we’d have a team that would get in play-offs at the very least

Problem is who will identify and sign them ? Spors?who is responsible for Downs!!

Only by stopping this ridiculous must have a sell on for all purchases just buy a proven striker not one from German 2 for £6m hoping to make it £20m

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We have no leaders on the pitch, none at all. We have been crying out for an experienced leader to grab this lot of weak minded, spineless idiots by the scruff of the neck and give them a good hard kick in the balls to remind them they are supposed to be men, not a bunch of bloody girls (no disrespect to the girls who show more fight).

No strikers, no leaders, a porous defence and a TinTin as manager. We may as well just take relegation now and get it over with!

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Looks like Shane Duffy, CB for Norwich has been calling out their fans on twitter.

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Sheffield Wednesday are a real mess, and Blackburn look a shambles also.

Probably just as well a few other teams are imploding otherwise we might be in a worse league position than we currently are.

 

 

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The glaringly worrying thing for me is this from Still last night -   

"Do you worry that the players are not questioning themselves like you?

WS: I hope they are, really hope they are. But when you hear them, when you listen to them, when you hear comments, I'm not sure that's the case.

We might have to have a very honest and direct conversation about it so that people realise what has to change and what needs to be done.

I don't mind having it, but people are in a frame of mind and have been in that for quite a long time. To change takes time, and a lot of change."

Now the thing is part of the reason Captain Jack was given a new contract was because he is supposedly such a magnificent leader and voice in the dressing room ! This statement shows that reasoning to be absolute bollocks !! Stephens is PART of the problem not a solution to the problem. If he was this just wouldnt be happening !!

 

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12 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

The glaringly worrying thing for me is this from Still last night -   

"Do you worry that the players are not questioning themselves like you?

WS: I hope they are, really hope they are. But when you hear them, when you listen to them, when you hear comments, I'm not sure that's the case.

We might have to have a very honest and direct conversation about it so that people realise what has to change and what needs to be done.

I don't mind having it, but people are in a frame of mind and have been in that for quite a long time. To change takes time, and a lot of change."

Now the thing is part of the reason Captain Jack was given a new contract was because he is supposedly such a magnificent leader and voice in the dressing room ! This statement shows that reasoning to be absolute bollocks !! Stephens is PART of the problem not a solution to the problem. If he was this just wouldnt be happening !!

 


I’d really like him to clarify exactly what he means here. 

We’ve gone through so many managers now, I would like one to be honest with us about what’s actually causing the rot. 
Is it the culture? The attitude from the players?

 

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That was an absolute shambles. The team selection was a nonsense. The way we play three centre backs is a nonsense. It is totally negative we work the ball upfield then in two passes end up back with the centre backs so pass it around for a bit and start again. Possession statistics are a myth. It's just a count of the number of meaningless passes we are making. The three at the back left themselves wide open and were done regularly on the break. The three goals were defendible but the centre backs were incompetent.

Charles made a beautiful thirty yard forward pass to open up Bristol for our goal. Scienza looks a handful. Armstrong might get the odd goal but as soon as an attacking ball reaches him he selfishly tries to finish. Last night he had the opportunity of a square pass to Archer for an open goal but just shot.

I think Still is becoming a problem fiddling while Rome burns. He has the players, he now needs to stop trying to invent a shape and use the players in their best positions. As far as I'm concerned every set of players has a natural shape, it's negating their ability trying to shoehorn into a selected shape which is what Still is doing.       It stands out like a dogs balls that the players he has are made for 4-4-2. No fit right full back. Edwards or Stephens could play there. Two wingers, Azaz and Armstrong/Robinson up front, Charles and Jander midfield, two centre backs, Wood + 1, Wellington/Manning. It's the most natural shape unless Azaz drops into midfield making a 4-3-3.

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20 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:


I’d really like him to clarify exactly what he means here. 

We’ve gone through so many managers now, I would like one to be honest with us about what’s actually causing the rot. 
Is it the culture? The attitude from the players?

 

It was pretty apparent last night that Harwood-Bellis, for example, was hiding and didn't want to take any responsibility or show any leadership at all. Get the ball, stop, turn inside, give it to someone stood five yards away so it's their problem - all fucking night. When he wasn't doing that, instead of actually being a centre back and trying to win physical battles and dominate his man, he was falling over pretending to be fouled, crying like a little bitch, mouthing off and giving away stupid petulant fouls. He was an absolute disgrace last night and I'd bet a pound to a penny that he's one of the ones who is first to be making the excuses afterwards. He is the embodiment of our mental weakness hangover from last year, he's nowhere near as good as he clearly thinks he is, and he sets a terrible example to the new players. He looks like he'd rather be anywhere but here and I'd have him out alongside Stephens. Wood, Quarshie and Edwards aren't perfect but at least they look like they might care and it would be one less of last year's embarrassments hanging around stinking out the place. 

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27 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:


I’d really like him to clarify exactly what he means here. 

We’ve gone through so many managers now, I would like one to be honest with us about what’s actually causing the rot. 
Is it the culture? The attitude from the players?

 

We have changed a lot, so you'd assume that Jander/Fellows/Azaz/Mads/Jelert/Downs/Quarshie etc would come with a new approach and wouldn't have the old crap hangiung over them.

But when you look at what's left - THB, Downes, Fraser, Edozie, Aribo, Stephens, Bazunu, McCarthy, Archer, Armstrong, Manning etc - that lot right there is the problem in my eyes. We all know that Downes skulks around when he's not playing, so you can imagine he's being quite toxic in the background. I wouldn't imagine Edozie nor Aribo are responding too well to not even being in the squad either.

THB/Fraser/Armstrong/Manning etc were team mates with these guys, they'll be talking to each other and probably moaning to each other.

I'd sell the lot of them, they're finished here. We need to buy new ST's, new GK's, a new CM and CB. Park all those losers in the bin and move forward, because I don't think the new guys have a chance in an environment full of such toxicity. We didn't go far enough in the summer with the sales, that's evident now.

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16 minutes ago, derry said:

That was an absolute shambles. The team selection was a nonsense. The way we play three centre backs is a nonsense. It is totally negative we work the ball upfield then in two passes end up back with the centre backs so pass it around for a bit and start again. Possession statistics are a myth. It's just a count of the number of meaningless passes we are making. The three at the back left themselves wide open and were done regularly on the break. The three goals were defendible but the centre backs were incompetent.

Charles made a beautiful thirty yard forward pass to open up Bristol for our goal. Scienza looks a handful. Armstrong might get the odd goal but as soon as an attacking ball reaches him he selfishly tries to finish. Last night he had the opportunity of a square pass to Archer for an open goal but just shot.

I think Still is becoming a problem fiddling while Rome burns. He has the players, he now needs to stop trying to invent a shape and use the players in their best positions. As far as I'm concerned every set of players has a natural shape, it's negating their ability trying to shoehorn into a selected shape which is what Still is doing.       It stands out like a dogs balls that the players he has are made for 4-4-2. No fit right full back. Edwards or Stephens could play there. Two wingers, Azaz and Armstrong/Robinson up front, Charles and Jander midfield, two centre backs, Wood + 1, Wellington/Manning. It's the most natural shape unless Azaz drops into midfield making a 4-3-3.

I've only watched the brief highlights but what I saw was a defence with no shape or cohesion. Traditionally,  a pair of centre backs in a back four will develop a sense of understanding and will instinctively be in the right position to cover any threat.

With three centre backs you have three pairings instead of one and it leads to confusion unless they are drilled relentlessly in their relative positions. They also need to be played regularly with no chopping and changing.

What is saw last night horrified me. Defensively no shape or structure with players rushing about like panicked chickens once a couple of foxes had got in amongst them.

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50 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

We have changed a lot, so you'd assume that Jander/Fellows/Azaz/Mads/Jelert/Downs/Quarshie etc would come with a new approach and wouldn't have the old crap hangiung over them.

But when you look at what's left - THB, Downes, Fraser, Edozie, Aribo, Stephens, Bazunu, McCarthy, Archer, Armstrong, Manning etc - that lot right there is the problem in my eyes. We all know that Downes skulks around when he's not playing, so you can imagine he's being quite toxic in the background. I wouldn't imagine Edozie nor Aribo are responding too well to not even being in the squad either.

THB/Fraser/Armstrong/Manning etc were team mates with these guys, they'll be talking to each other and probably moaning to each other.

I'd sell the lot of them, they're finished here. We need to buy new ST's, new GK's, a new CM and CB. Park all those losers in the bin and move forward, because I don't think the new guys have a chance in an environment full of such toxicity. We didn't go far enough in the summer with the sales, that's evident now.

Sorry but where is the evidence for any of this narrative? :D Is it really all based on one comment from Juric about Downes, which he rowed back on a couple of weeks or so later on and stuck him back in the team? 

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3 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

They were overwhelming the midfield from the start!? After half an hour they put up the stats that only 10% of the play had occurred in the final third near our goal and we'd had 75% of possession. 

They played on the counter attack and it worked, fair play to them, but at no point were they overwhelming our midfield. They bypassed it. 

Perhaps bypassing or going straight through is a better turn of phrase. My point was that the back 5 and midfield 2, seemed unable to break free of their press.

Anyway however it should be phrased, it was shit.

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12 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Sorry but where is the evidence for any of this narrative? :D Is it really all based on one comment from Juric about Downes, which he rowed back on a couple of weeks or so later on and stuck him back in the team? 

You really don't need to be a body language expert to see he has no interest in being here and when he is on the pitch he does everything possible to not get picked for the next game. He wanted to leave the moment Russball got sacked!

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3 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

You really don't need to be a body language expert to see he has no interest in being here and when he is on the pitch he does everything possible to not get picked for the next game. He wanted to leave the moment Russball got sacked!

That is just pure hyperbole

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Well that maintains my record of only ever seeing defeats at Ashton Gate.  And made worse by A36 being closed on way home!

Trying to be fair and balanced, but after what I thought was a good performance and a clean sheet I was pleased we kept same team other than expected both wing backs to change as thought Welington would struggle to do two games in three days.  So I think hindsight critics are out in force on team selection.

Thought we played well for an hour and again created clear cut chances with some brain farts to concede.  Again cannot blame manager for that.

However the final 30 mins was alarming, felt like a throw the towel in finish which may be unfair as players are young abut that is how it looked.  You could see Still looking down the line thinking “I don’t want to bring Downs on” but eventually realised he had no other striker choice.  
 

Saturday assumes huge importance as think it will be seen, fairly or not, as “are the players playing for Still”?  
 

 

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I listened to the second half on the radio. Was Downs booed when he came on by the Saints fans? It certainly sounded like it and Blackmore picked up on it too.

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Theoretically, I don't have an issue playing 3 at the back, particularly if that 3 are capable of covering the width of the pitch and are able to operate without a spare, covering defender (I'm not convinced we have 3 that can do that).  Our main issue when we play a 3 is that playing 4 in front  asks way too much of Charles and Jander, they simply don't have the engine, top quality players for the Championship but the task expected of them is too big and we concede control of the midfield when they are blowing out of their hoops, which I think played a part in Jander's missed pass.

If 3 is the magic number at the back, for the love of Mary, put 5 in front - and well fuck me we get 3 top midfielders in the team with Azaz or Leo joining the midfield party.  2 up top, Downs plus whichever midget striker looks like they might hit the barn door.  Yes Downs... better he plays with a partner, rather than looking like an isolated waste of money.

I'm not convinced 3 is the magic number for us.  4-4-2 might be considered out of fashion but it suits our squad, should Downs find some form then we could go 4-2-3-1.... yeah stick with 4-4-2 and get Downs to watch Che Adams from 2 seasons ago.

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1 hour ago, trousers said:

Are you ruling it out as a possibility?

No. I asked for evidence. The idea of someone deliberately playing badly so he's not picked again does seem slightly far fetched though.

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5 hours ago, JohnS said:

Putting my Saints frustrations, darkness/depression to one side.

I do think that with just 2 great additions -  1 very proven/decent big old school Striker & 1 Strong/Commanding Centre Back - we’d have a team that would get in play-offs at the very least

Not with the current clown as manager. 

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3 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

We have changed a lot, so you'd assume that Jander/Fellows/Azaz/Mads/Jelert/Downs/Quarshie etc would come with a new approach and wouldn't have the old crap hangiung over them.

But when you look at what's left - THB, Downes, Fraser, Edozie, Aribo, Stephens, Bazunu, McCarthy, Archer, Armstrong, Manning etc - that lot right there is the problem in my eyes. We all know that Downes skulks around when he's not playing, so you can imagine he's being quite toxic in the background. I wouldn't imagine Edozie nor Aribo are responding too well to not even being in the squad either.

THB/Fraser/Armstrong/Manning etc were team mates with these guys, they'll be talking to each other and probably moaning to each other.

I'd sell the lot of them, they're finished here. We need to buy new ST's, new GK's, a new CM and CB. Park all those losers in the bin and move forward, because I don't think the new guys have a chance in an environment full of such toxicity. We didn't go far enough in the summer with the sales, that's evident now.

I take your point but would you trust SR/Spors to replace all these players with anyone better because I wouldn't.

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1 hour ago, notnowcato said:

Theoretically, I don't have an issue playing 3 at the back, particularly if that 3 are capable of covering the width of the pitch and are able to operate without a spare, covering defender (I'm not convinced we have 3 that can do that).  Our main issue when we play a 3 is that playing 4 in front  asks way too much of Charles and Jander, they simply don't have the engine, top quality players for the Championship but the task expected of them is too big and we concede control of the midfield when they are blowing out of their hoops, which I think played a part in Jander's missed pass.

If 3 is the magic number at the back, for the love of Mary, put 5 in front - and well fuck me we get 3 top midfielders in the team with Azaz or Leo joining the midfield party.  2 up top, Downs plus whichever midget striker looks like they might hit the barn door.  Yes Downs... better he plays with a partner, rather than looking like an isolated waste of money.

I'm not convinced 3 is the magic number for us.  4-4-2 might be considered out of fashion but it suits our squad, should Downs find some form then we could go 4-2-3-1.... yeah stick with 4-4-2 and get Downs to watch Che Adams from 2 seasons ago.

You may as well get Downs to watch Erling Haaland for all the good it will do because he is both weak and clueless.

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4 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

We have changed a lot, so you'd assume that Jander/Fellows/Azaz/Mads/Jelert/Downs/Quarshie etc would come with a new approach and wouldn't have the old crap hangiung over them.

But when you look at what's left - THB, Downes, Fraser, Edozie, Aribo, Stephens, Bazunu, McCarthy, Archer, Armstrong, Manning etc - that lot right there is the problem in my eyes. We all know that Downes skulks around when he's not playing, so you can imagine he's being quite toxic in the background. I wouldn't imagine Edozie nor Aribo are responding too well to not even being in the squad either.

THB/Fraser/Armstrong/Manning etc were team mates with these guys, they'll be talking to each other and probably moaning to each other.

I'd sell the lot of them, they're finished here. We need to buy new ST's, new GK's, a new CM and CB. Park all those losers in the bin and move forward, because I don't think the new guys have a chance in an environment full of such toxicity. We didn't go far enough in the summer with the sales, that's evident now.

I think that holds a lot of water to be fair. I would have been quite happy to see them all fuck off in the summer. It was never going to happen, but what did we expect? Armstrong came back from a loan probably demotivated. Fraser hardly kicked a ball for us last season. Downes is just a system player. We have a lot of players just happy picking up the money and hiding away. Basically what we were left with in the summer was the shit we couldn't shift. That left us with a bunch of cowardly, spineless dross lacking any sort of leadership or direction. Its a pathetic situation and one that was easily avoided if someone had the balls or nous to step up and sort it.

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Regarding Downs there is defo young player in there as always he disappears when they join saints.

Honestly archer is not giving anything as the central striker so i would say to downs he's gonna get 3-4 games no matter how he plays, see if that gives him confidence and hopefully he can create space for Leo/Armstrong etc to run into, we cant have 3 smurfs up top playing crosses into them.

Last season with Koln this was his style.

"He thrived on making curling runs in behind defenses (he did this for his goal during pre-season), using his timing, long strides, and pace to exploit gaps and stretch opposing backlines. His physical presence allowed him to excel in hold-up play, shielding the ball under pressure and linking up with teammates through quick, accurate short passes. On the ball, he showed growing confidence in dribbling, often beating defenders in 1v1 situations by attacking channels or cutting inside from wider areas to create chances."

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10 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Regarding Downs there is defo young player in there as always he disappears when they join saints.

Honestly archer is not giving anything as the central striker so i would say to downs he's gonna get 3-4 games no matter how he plays, see if that gives him confidence and hopefully he can create space for Leo/Armstrong etc to run into, we cant have 3 smurfs up top playing crosses into them.

Last season with Koln this was his style.

"He thrived on making curling runs in behind defenses (he did this for his goal during pre-season), using his timing, long strides, and pace to exploit gaps and stretch opposing backlines. His physical presence allowed him to excel in hold-up play, shielding the ball under pressure and linking up with teammates through quick, accurate short passes. On the ball, he showed growing confidence in dribbling, often beating defenders in 1v1 situations by attacking channels or cutting inside from wider areas to create chances."

I know for a fact that our scout that joined us from Norwich after Downs was unfortunately signed would not have recommended signing Downs at all, she did not and does not rate him at all

 

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56 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Regarding Downs there is defo young player in there as always he disappears when they join saints.

Honestly archer is not giving anything as the central striker so i would say to downs he's gonna get 3-4 games no matter how he plays, see if that gives him confidence and hopefully he can create space for Leo/Armstrong etc to run into, we cant have 3 smurfs up top playing crosses into them.

Last season with Koln this was his style.

"He thrived on making curling runs in behind defenses (he did this for his goal during pre-season), using his timing, long strides, and pace to exploit gaps and stretch opposing backlines. His physical presence allowed him to excel in hold-up play, shielding the ball under pressure and linking up with teammates through quick, accurate short passes. On the ball, he showed growing confidence in dribbling, often beating defenders in 1v1 situations by attacking channels or cutting inside from wider areas to create chances."

Nah, he's shite.

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1 hour ago, Convict Colony said:

"He thrived on making curling runs in behind defenses (he did this for his goal during pre-season), using his timing, long strides, and pace to exploit gaps and stretch opposing backlines. His physical presence allowed him to excel in hold-up play, shielding the ball under pressure and linking up with teammates through quick, accurate short passes. On the ball, he showed growing confidence in dribbling, often beating defenders in 1v1 situations by attacking channels or cutting inside from wider areas to create chances."

Who wrote that?

”His physical presence allowed him to excel in hold-up play”?

He’s got the physical presence of a fucking twiglet, the only key difference being that a twiglet lying inert on the pitch might occasionally end up in the same vicinity as the ball, which Downs never is. I’ve never seen a player manage to be in completely the wrong place so relentlessly. 

Archer’s been crap too but at least he seems to understand the basic theoretical concept of being a footballer.

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1 hour ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

I know for a fact that our scout that joined us from Norwich after Downs was unfortunately signed would not have recommended signing Downs at all, she did not and does not rate him at all

 

wasnt he spors must have buy early doors in the season, something is not adding up.

I want us just to fucking score a few, its so fucking shit.

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I think the saddest thing is how we have become a club without any stars or players that other clubs would love to have. I look back over the decades and think with affection of so many great players who graced the Dell and later St Mary’s. From Reeves to Osgood to Hollywood to Pahars to Mane to Shelton there hundreds of happy memories. Sadly I can’t think of a single current player whom I will remember in the future. Recruitment has been dire and selling our Crown Jewels criminal. 

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4 hours ago, Chez said:

I listened to the second half on the radio. Was Downs booed when he came on by the Saints fans? It certainly sounded like it and Blackmore picked up on it too.

They did with some gusto. As soon as he started to put a shirt on, chants of 'you don't know what you're doing' rang out., followed by loud boos when he came on.

Losing the away fans, who really do have the patience of Saints, is a very bad sign.

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2 minutes ago, macca155 said:

They did with some gusto. As soon as he started to put a shirt on, chants of 'you don't know what you're doing' rang out., followed by loud boos when he came on.

Losing the away fans, who really do have the patience of Saints, is a very bad sign.

do the fans want us to keep archer on after his performance?

Ross Stewart was a figure of fun for 2yrs and he's now the striker we apparently miss most.

 

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5 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

do the fans want us to keep archer on after his performance?

Ross Stewart was a figure of fun for 2yrs and he's now the striker we apparently miss most.

 

Harsh. Ross Stewart was a figure of fun because of his fitness record ( the Loch Ness Drogba) not because he has no experience and no apparent football ability.

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1 minute ago, lambtiss said:

Harsh. Ross Stewart was a figure of fun because of his fitness record ( the Loch Ness Drogba) not because he has no experience and no apparent football ability.

I wasnt trying to be harsh on stewart whove i actually liked but its a tad harsh on a 20yr old playing in a new country in a new shit team and is expected to hit the ground running.

In the real world we would have a functioning striker and downs would be on bench and do cameos for 15-20mins as he learns, but alas this is not the saints way. 

I've realised i've become Downs champion tonight, fuck it i ride, he will score goals for us this season.

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3 hours ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

I know for a fact that our scout that joined us from Norwich after Downs was unfortunately signed would not have recommended signing Downs at all, she did not and does not rate him at all

 

Ive just remembered poch picks him for the us squad does that top trump a Norwich scout ? 

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1 hour ago, Convict Colony said:

Ive just remembered poch picks him for the us squad does that top trump a Norwich scout ? 

I got her job title wrong, it's head of group talent acquisition and she has an impressive CV. Extremely well thought of and yup i'm happy to trust her opinion!

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5 hours ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

I know for a fact that our scout that joined us from Norwich after Downs was unfortunately signed would not have recommended signing Downs at all, she did not and does not rate him at all

 

She joined in April. Downs joined in July.

Perhaps she should've piped up at the time.

Anyone can be a good talent spotter after the event. 

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3 hours ago, Convict Colony said:

I wasnt trying to be harsh on stewart whove i actually liked but its a tad harsh on a 20yr old playing in a new country in a new shit team and is expected to hit the ground running.

In the real world we would have a functioning striker and downs would be on bench and do cameos for 15-20mins as he learns, but alas this is not the saints way. 

I've realised i've become Downs champion tonight, fuck it i ride, he will score goals for us this season.

In the real world he'd be playing for ... oh ... Koln's second team?

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42 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

She joined in April. Downs joined in July.

Perhaps she should've piped up at the time.

Anyone can be a good talent spotter after the event. 

she did not start her position until well after Downs was done and dusted. Her remarks about her thoughts on him were well before he had kicked a ball for us!

 

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3 hours ago, Convict Colony said:

Ive just remembered poch picks him for the us squad does that top trump a Norwich scout ? 

 I don’t believe he did the last US squad

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