New Manager Debate

[SW11_Saint]

34 minutes ago, Nolan said:

Rumour I was told today was that there was a shortlist of three non British candidates. 

But that there would be no movement as the risk of a backlash if the new appointee lost after Eckert had won two, was too great.

Would only be movement if Eckert dropped points.

That sums up their incompetence perfectly…

[Sheaf Saint]

38 minutes ago, Nolan said:

Rumour I was told today was that there was a shortlist of three non British candidates. 

But that there would be no movement as the risk of a backlash if the new appointee lost after Eckert had won two, was too great.

Would only be movement if Eckert dropped points.

I'm not doubting you Nolan, I'm sure you are passing this on in good faith. 

In other circumstances I would say this sounds way too ridiculous to be true. No competent owners would ever allow this kind of thing to influence such a critical decision. But therein lies the problem. Anything is possible with these clowns in charge.

[sotonjoe]

46 minutes ago, Nolan said:

Rumour I was told today was that there was a shortlist of three non British candidates. 

But that there would be no movement as the risk of a backlash if the new appointee lost after Eckert had won two, was too great.

Would only be movement if Eckert dropped points.

Some people will believe anything, won't they?

[manji]

3 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

I'm not doubting you Nolan, I'm sure you are passing this on in good faith. 

In other circumstances I would say this sounds way too ridiculous to be true. No competent owners would ever allow this kind of thing to influence such a critical decision. But therein lies the problem. Anything is possible with these clowns in charge.

You are assuming “incompetence ” based on some random rumour. Sums up this cretinous forum again I was early adoptor when your average moron wasn’t even sure what the internet was. Yes I’m not sure why I bother there are far more intelligent forums on other platforms I just hold some vain hope I will find an interesting news item on here. But niet. 

[Miltonaggro]

55 minutes ago, Nolan said:

Rumour I was told today was that there was a shortlist of three non British candidates. 

But that there would be no movement as the risk of a backlash if the new appointee lost after Eckert had won two, was too great.

Would only be movement if Eckert dropped points.

[tdmickey3]

10 minutes ago, manji said:

You are assuming “incompetence ” based on some random rumour. Sums up this cretinous forum again I was early adoptor when your average moron wasn’t even sure what the internet was. Yes I’m not sure why I bother there are far more intelligent forums on other platforms I just hold some vain hope I will find an interesting news item on here. But niet. 

Is it still the greatest era in our history, just checking 

[Football Special]

1 hour ago, skintsaint said:

SR Staff trading profit win.

Nice little boost for the net spend trophy 

[warsash saint]

Why is Vierra not on the poll??

[Verbal]

1 hour ago, Nolan said:

Rumour I was told today was that there was a shortlist of three non British candidates. 

But that there would be no movement as the risk of a backlash if the new appointee lost after Eckert had won two, was too great.

Would only be movement if Eckert dropped points.

So a Saints version of the movie Speed - Eckert can continue only until his points-per-game average drops below three, at which he gets blown up in favour of Carlos Manage-a-Ball.

This makes perfect sense.

[Miltonaggro]

25 minutes ago, manji said:

You are assuming “incompetence ” based on some random rumour. Sums up this cretinous forum again I was early adoptor when your average moron wasn’t even sure what the internet was. Yes I’m not sure why I bother there are far more intelligent forums on other platforms I just hold some vain hope I will find an interesting news item on here. But niet. 

Of course he might be settling on ‘incompetence’ as an honest opinion having paid to watch the Sport Republic skip fire over the past three years! 

Personally as one of the fucking idiots who has been a season ticket holder throughout, my eyewitness testimony would settle closer to recklessness or negligence than mere incompetence. Remarkably, they have yet another chance to redeem themselves now. It’s at best 50/50 that they fuck up yet again. 

[AlexLaw76]

1 hour ago, Nolan said:

Rumour I was told today was that there was a shortlist of three non British candidates. 

But that there would be no movement as the risk of a backlash if the new appointee lost after Eckert had won two, was too great.

Would only be movement if Eckert dropped points.

Incredible if true.

hardly anyone wants the child to be the manager 

[Dr. Kucho]

1 hour ago, Nolan said:

Rumour I was told today was that there was a shortlist of three non British candidates. 

But that there would be no movement as the risk of a backlash if the new appointee lost after Eckert had won two, was too great.

Would only be movement if Eckert dropped points.

This rumour sounds like someone is trying to take the piss. I can’t imagine Spors calling a manager and saying:

Sorry mate, you’ve got to wait another week before you can start. Tonda won this weekend. 
 

On the other hand, this is Sports Republic and if Rasmus and the other data dickheads think this is the way it could well happen. 

[Maggie May]

It’s absolutely not true. Imagine the scenario where we offer the job to a competent manager who is happy to sit back and wait for a total novice to lose a game. Ludicrous.

[West end Saints]

1 hour ago, Nolan said:

Rumour I was told today was that there was a shortlist of three non British candidates. 

But that there would be no movement as the risk of a backlash if the new appointee lost after Eckert had won two, was too great.

Would only be movement if Eckert dropped points.

Nothing against Nolan passing on something they have heard but there are two things I do not believe in this;

1) they want a manager, have identified them, and will appoint them but are waiting for however long it takes us to lose a game before doing so.

 

And 

2)...even harder to believe, that whoever thinks this would have vocalised it to anyone else, without realising how silly it sounds, so that it could be spread to Nolan 

 

[Tommy Mulgrew]

bbc coverage of our problem:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cz0xjdn5zz0o

no new insights.

[Themotherfunky]

Seems a bit of a stretch, with Trollope all but gone, that leaves the coaching staff very bare bones after getting rid of 3 or 4 with Still. 

 I can't see them leaving it to Eckert with just Lallana on the staff? And it would be very tinpot of them to just promote his previous staff from the 21s. 

 I'd imagine they've got someone lined up bringing their own coaching staff. (Hopefully)

[Appy]

Just now, Tommy Mulgrew said:

bbc coverage of our problem:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cz0xjdn5zz0o

no new insights.

Those last three words are pretty much how it’s been since Still left 

[LiberalCommunist]

If we don't find the right candidate, then we shouldn't recruit the wrong candidate. If we choose to stagnate, let us be fortuitous to not implode. And if this is a sign of intent or incompetence, then lets drag out the for sale sign and move on from this mistake. 

[Hawkswood]

1 hour ago, Chez said:

 

 

I just visited the Swansea City website and unsurprisingly there is absolutely nothing on there about who they have been linked with. Same with Norwich and Boro. Have these three clubs posted something on their social media feeds? If not, then I don't have a clue what you are on about.

Ah okay, I just saw some headlines on Skysports and thought it was put out by the clubs. Tbh, its more than Ive seen with us at all so thought the clubs put it out. My bad.

[trousers]

1 hour ago, Nolan said:

Rumour I was told today was that there was a shortlist of three non British candidates. 

But that there would be no movement as the risk of a backlash if the new appointee lost after Eckert had won two, was too great.

Would only be movement if Eckert dropped points.

 

1 hour ago, Sheaf Saint said:

I'm not doubting you Nolan, I'm sure you are passing this on in good faith. 

In other circumstances I would say this sounds way too ridiculous to be true. No competent owners would ever allow this kind of thing to influence such a critical decision. But therein lies the problem. Anything is possible with these clowns in charge.

 

1 hour ago, sotonjoe said:

Some people will believe anything, won't they?

 

21 minutes ago, Dr. Kucho said:

This rumour sounds like someone is trying to take the piss. I can’t imagine Spors calling a manager and saying:

Sorry mate, you’ve got to wait another week before you can start. Tonda won this weekend. 
 

On the other hand, this is Sports Republic and if Rasmus and the other data dickheads think this is the way it could well happen. 

 

18 minutes ago, West end Saints said:

Nothing against Nolan passing on something they have heard but there are two things I do not believe in this;

1) they want a manager, have identified them, and will appoint them but are waiting for however long it takes us to lose a game before doing so.

 

And 

2)...even harder to believe, that whoever thinks this would have vocalised it to anyone else, without realising how silly it sounds, so that it could be spread to Nolan 

 

Yep... But it reminds me of an episode of 'Would I Lie To You' where Bob Mortimer tells one of his completely implausible stories which turns out to be true... 

Would anyone genuinely be surprised if Nolan's rumour about SR's approach turned out to be true given their track record in decision making...?

 

Edited 18 hours ago by trousers

[Saint Fan CaM]

Given we’ve had an indication that interviews have taken place and at least one of those was somewhat positive, it seems incredibly unlikely that a decision would be postponed until Eckhert loses a game. Unless of course the truth lies somewhere in between - perhaps the intention was always to give Eckert more time in post until after the international break, giving Spors plenty of time to go through an extensive interview process. With the interim regime getting results, what’s the point of rushing an appointment?

[Willo of Whiteley]

Sport Republic just confirmed five candidates that fans can vote for on the official site to be the new first team manager. Incredible!

 

 

 

 

 

Jokes

But the fact I’m sure a few of you momentarily believed that SR would do something like this and it not surprise you kinda says it all. 😁😂

[benjii]

1 hour ago, manji said:

You are assuming “incompetence ” based on some random rumour. Sums up this cretinous forum again I was early adoptor when your average moron wasn’t even sure what the internet was. Yes I’m not sure why I bother there are far more intelligent forums on other platforms I just hold some vain hope I will find an interesting news item on here. But niet. 

I think most people assume incompetence after several years of incompetence. 

[AlexLaw76]

4 minutes ago, trousers said:

 

 

 

 

Yep... But it reminds me of an episode of 'Would I Lie To You' where Bob Mortimer tells one of his completely implausible stories which turns out to be true... 

Would anyone genuinely be surprised if Nolan's rumour about SR's approach turned out to be true given their track record in decision making...?

 

That is one of my favourite shows!!

[Sheaf Saint]

1 hour ago, manji said:

You are assuming “incompetence ” based on some random rumour. Sums up this cretinous forum again I was early adoptor when your average moron wasn’t even sure what the internet was. Yes I’m not sure why I bother there are far more intelligent forums on other platforms I just hold some vain hope I will find an interesting news item on here. But niet. 

No, I'm assuming incompetence based on the extensive evidence of their total mismanagement of the club over the best part of four years. 

In case you haven't been paying attention, this "greatest era in our history" that you promised us has still yet to materialise.

Or was it a typo and you actually meant to say greatest error in our history?

[trousers]

16 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

That is one of my favourite shows!!

Likewise. And Dave are about to broadcast a Bob Mortimer episode as we speak... 

Edit: ignore that... It's a "best of" compilation 

Edited 18 hours ago by trousers

[Ted Bates Statue]

1 hour ago, Verbal said:

So a Saints version of the movie Speed - Eckert can continue only until his points-per-game average drops below three, at which he gets blown up in favour of Carlos Manage-a-Ball.

This makes perfect sense.

Winner stays on, it's only fair isn't it!

[Nolan]

I knew it would make for interesting discussion. 

I have zero idea if it bears any relationship with reality, but international breaks are dull.

[SW11_Saint]

14 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

I'm not doubting you Nolan, I'm sure you are passing this on in good faith. 

In other circumstances I would say this sounds way too ridiculous to be true. No competent owners would ever allow this kind of thing to influence such a critical decision. But therein lies the problem. Anything is possible with these clowns in charge.

@londonsaint’s post addresses this ludicrous short-term approach. It’s why we are where we are. Nothing will ever change while SR are owners I fear. 

Edited 5 hours ago by SW11_Saint

[Forester]

I would love to be proved wrong, but I am fearful that Eckert will lack the experience and presence needed when we hit a tough patch.  And so right now I would still be looking externally.

However I think we are in an intriguing time of the season where, unless we make an appointment over this next week, it is highly likely that Eckert will be in charge for three more games, not one.  There will be limited opportunity to prepare anything too radical between the Charlton and Leicester games, and again then between Leicester and Millwall.  After that there is a whole week before the next game again so Birmingham, and so assuming it is external you would guess it will be someone in the stand watching Millwall game and then taking training from the Monday.

If you accept this assumption, then things get super interesting.  Imagine Eckert takes seven, or even nine, points from those three fixtures.  It then becomes hard NOT to appoint him from the perspective of Sport Republic.  In my opinion this is unlikely, as while I expect QPR and Sheff We’d to both be in bottom half, I think all of Charlton, Leicester and Millwall are play off candidates.  
 

But regardless of our individual opinions (and I repeat I think we should go external) you can see a scenario that he almost ends up appointing himself with three more good results in a week!

[Lard]

Never has the anticipation of waiting for a new manager announcement been so fecking mundane and uninspiring. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Yorkshire Saint]

15 minutes ago, Lard said:

Never has the anticipation of waiting for a new manager announcement been so fecking mundane and uninspiring. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Oh yes it has ..

[Wade Garrett]

I’m starting to think that those useless twats couldn’t run a piss-up in a brewery.

Put that in your next TED talks you fucking clowns.

[suewhistle]

11 minutes ago, Yorkshire Saint said:

Oh yes it has ..

Is it pantomime season already?

[WellingtonSaint]

27 minutes ago, suewhistle said:

Is it pantomime season already?

Year round at SMS the past few seasons...

[Verbal]

2 hours ago, Ted Bates Statue said:

Winner stays on, it's only fair isn't it!

There are no winners in this game Norman.

[aintforever]

As the last appointment was such an obvious gamble you would have thought they would already have some candidates lined up just in case. Oh no, not this bunch of clowns. We’re going to get weeks of dithering before the inevitable unveiling of someone completely unsuitable.

[Saint Fan CaM]

Has anyone any insight into Vierra’s managerial / tactical style? Is he and his team a realistic for SR to pursue? Could they be plotting a Vierra / Eckhert dream team - that would be quite a talking point!?

[Danwulfe]

I'm glad Tonda has won his first two games in charge, winning has been a relevation!

But realistically it would only be for a season, as we learnt last the step up to the Premier League is huge. I'd rather have someone that has experience at a PL level that can get us challenging this season/promotion next.

The question to ask is, do SR learn from their mistakes?

[benjii]

The first episode of the new Whitehouse and Mortimer Gone Fishing series is set on the Itchen.

 

FACT!

[Toadhall Saint]

7 hours ago, aintforever said:

As the last appointment was such an obvious gamble you would have thought they would already have some candidates lined up just in case. Oh no, not this bunch of clowns. We’re going to get weeks of dithering before the inevitable unveiling of someone completely unsuitable.

It doesn’t matter who is appointed tho - they are not going to appeal to everyone. 

[Streaky]

2 hours ago, benjii said:

The first episode of the new Whitehouse and Mortimer Gone Fishing series is set on the Itchen.

 

FACT!

Great show!

[Sheaf Saint]

3 hours ago, benjii said:

The first episode of the new Whitehouse and Mortimer Gone Fishing series is set on the Itchen.

 

FACT!

And their dog is called TED!

That can't be a coincidence 🤔

[Willo of Whiteley]

Gary O’Neill to Middlesbrough.

Brendan Rodgers to Fulham/Leeds.

Jon-Dahl Tomasson to Norwich.

Liam Manning to Swansea (eventually).

Tonda Eckhart confirmed at Southampton.

[SW11_Saint]

6 hours ago, Danwulfe said:

I'm glad Tonda has won his first two games in charge, winning has been a relevation!

But realistically it would only be for a season, as we learnt last the step up to the Premier League is huge. I'd rather have someone that has experience at a PL level that can get us challenging this season/promotion next.

The question to ask is, do SR learn from their mistakes?

We know the answer to your last question…

[Winnersaint]

32 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

And their dog is called TED!

That can't be a coincidence 🤔

Why hasnt this been picked up by the CoT. No CoT no party!

[Turkish]

6 hours ago, Danwulfe said:

I'm glad Tonda has won his first two games in charge, winning has been a relevation!

But realistically it would only be for a season, as we learnt last the step up to the Premier League is huge. I'd rather have someone that has experience at a PL level that can get us challenging this season/promotion next.

The question to ask is, do SR learn from their mistakes?

So far they haven't!!!

[Saint Billy]

Amazing how quick SR are to spunk millions on dud players but very slow to pick their next calamity manager 

[tdmickey3]

Any news Mr Spors / Mr Ankerson ??

[tdmickey3]

45 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Gary O’Neill to Middlesbrough.

Brendan Rodgers to Fulham/Leeds.

Jon-Dahl Tomasson to Norwich.

Liam Manning to Swansea (eventually).

Tonda Eckhart confirmed at Southampton.

Source ? 😉