QPR 1-2 Saints - Match Thread

[saintant]

7 minutes ago, benjii said:

This has been far better than a lot of other performances. That's not saying much, but to call this the most uninspiring display is nonsense.

Take that blindfold off.

[S-Clarke]

Just now, Harry_SFC said:

We are missing Charles a lot. The only midfielder we have that looks for a forward pass. 

We do, but the partner still needs to inject pace and movement into the team. There is simply no pace to our game, I'm not talking about players being quick - it's just that quick of mind to move and play the ball quick on the run. Jander did that at the start in his first few games, but it's all gone now.

[benjii]

This would be so much better"

Mads Wood Stephens Manning

Fraser Downes Jander Scienza

Armstrong Archer

[RedArmy]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

He will won’t he. We all know it

The new manager might not know, not yet anyway. He will soon enough. 

[The Kraken]

1 minute ago, gammon cheeks said:

Absolutely boring as fook !

4 touches in Qprs box ...players are stuck in Russball mode 

It’s not even Russball. At least under Martin a positive was that we got our team up the pitch and played a lot of our football in the other team’s half. We’ve been boxed in, we have no out ball, we have no passage through central midfield, all we have is passing around at the back then punting it long and losing it. Again. And again. Armstrong, why bother? How this new SR clone hasn’t worked out that he can’t play up front on his own is a disgrace.

Pathetic display, utterly pathetic.

[Gloucester Saint]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

The manager will do what he’s told

What’s needed is a Graham Taylor/Clough/Lawrie/Robson type who will ban Rasmus and Spors from the training ground and player areas of the stadium.

[benjii]

Just now, saintant said:

Take that blindfold off.

You think this has been worse than Preston, Bristol City, Hull, Portsmouth?

[benjii]

Just now, The Kraken said:

It’s not even Russball. At least under Martin a positive was that we got our team up the pitch and played a lot of our football in the other team’s half. We’ve been boxed in, we have no out ball, we have no passage through central midfield, all we have is passing around at the back then punting it long and losing it. Again. And again. Armstrong, why bother? How this new SR clone hasn’t worked out that he can’t play up front on his own is a disgrace.

Pathetic display, utterly pathetic.

Exactly. Martin knew how to attack. This is just Will Still bollocks until we get a proper coach.

[Harry_SFC]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

He will won’t he. We all know it

Jones, Juric, Rusk, Still, even Martin for a time and now Eckhart all playing 5 at the back...

[stknowle]

8 minutes ago, benjii said:

This has been far better than a lot of other performances. That's not saying much, but to call this the most uninspiring display is nonsense.

Can’t agree with you there Benjii, this has been fucking awful. So has the rest of the season but this is every bit as bad.

[benali-shorts]

God we’re feeble and clueless. Terrible set up, Robinson needs to play on the wing, he’s been terrible as AM / CF hybrid. 
I have no idea what we’re trying to play. 
I hate these players. 
Eckert in predictably tight chinos. 

[Oh no Mick Mills]

This thread is full of DOOM mongers. 

St Stephens , Flynnaldo and Armalaand will guide us to a New Dawn. 

[leeham_69]

6 minutes ago, saintant said:

You can't play wing backs without er, um ah wing backs. It's a pretty obvious concept. If you don't have proper wingbacks you have regular fullbacks, nobody in midfield and 7 at the back defending including the keeper and a defensive midfielder. When you eventually get the ball there is nowhere to go. It is not rocket science. 

Definitely. Fellows can't really defend and Manning doesn't cross the halfway line. One of the many problems that is so too obvious to everyone on earth except the people in the club.

[trousers]

1 minute ago, S-Clarke said:

Jander did that at the start in his first few games, but it's all gone now.

Yep, another player who we've managed to 'de-positize' since the start of the season

[Baird of the land]

4 minutes ago, benjii said:

This system doesn't help anyone apart from the centre backs.

Two CMs playing quite flat and screening 3 CBs with limited attempts to play between the lines.

Fellows out of position. Robinson out of position. Armstrong running around on his own. 

Scienza class, as usual.

Assuming we don’t change shape, I'd get Aribo on soon, if he's fit enough. Robinson has been very sloppy indeed.

Yeah formation is screwing over midfield imo.

[skintsaint]

2 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

It’s not even Russball. At least under Martin a positive was that we got our team up the pitch and played a lot of our football in the other team’s half. We’ve been boxed in, we have no out ball, we have no passage through central midfield, all we have is passing around at the back then punting it long and losing it.

It is Russball - teams now know to just push high and aggressively against this style of football and force the team back and outta space.

Martins team last time out in this league, teams generally sat back.

Edited 4 hours ago by skintsaint

[DellBoys]

They’re still being asked to play a system/style that they’ve spent the past 18 months proving they’re not capable of. 

[johnnyboy]

1 minute ago, benjii said:

You think this has been worse than Preston, Bristol City, Hull, Portsmouth?

Possibly worse , not sure what you’re seeing to see an improvement?

[saintstowin]

It's defend and hoof clear, or somehow be on the ball and charge up the pitch until give the ball away. Zero composure or build up.

[scumbag]

I love most of these players...

Edited 3 hours ago by scumbag

[sockeye]

Un fucking acceptable. The Fan Advisory Board have a lot to answer for. Heads must fucking ROLL!!!!!

[Convict Colony]

do we think managers are being told to play 3 CBS and wingback ?

 

how many managers now 

[Verwood Saint]

We are simply awful aren’t we! We get worse game by game. This team selection / formation offer so little going forward. Manning to Stephens to Wood, to THB to Baz and repeat. Variation every now and then when THB passes to Fellows but only when each is running back towards our goal with a player in his shorts - back towards THB as his only option and repeat…

And even with all those defenders we manage to make QPR look dangerous with a masterclass in ball watching and no one actually getting anywhere near the player with the ball.

I simply don’t understand how the ‘management’ can’t see this!

[S-Clarke]

1 minute ago, scumbag said:

Despise most of these players.  Think I even prefer the Groves and Speedie Branfoot era team to this mob. Who do they think they are...throw their toys out the pram and down tools to bring down managers but ultimately they're talentless cunts stealing a living.

Fabrice will be along soon to tell you that's all nonsense, and the players are fine.

[SWLondon Saint]

Awful, so slow every time we have the ball at the back, Cap'n Jack and his security blanket backwards and sideways passes. Every time Downes gets it he goes backwards, there was once Manning actually turned it round the corner to him, he had space to take a touch and move forward and .... He plays it first time back to Stephens. That's why you got benched, you twat. 

[Convict Colony]

Just now, sockeye said:

Un fucking acceptable. The Fan Advisory Board have a lot to answer for. Heads must fucking ROLL!!!!!

who the fuck is on this advisory board ? has anyone ever met one

[The Kraken]

Just now, skintsaint said:

It is Russball - teams now know to just push high and aggressively against this style of football and force the team back and outta space.

I don’t necessarily disagree but I’d remember Downes and Smallbone being able to play on the half turn and get us out of situations. Seen nothing akin to that tonight, we’re much worse than that. This kid in the dugout seems like a scared puppet.

[SNSUN]

Matsuki and Aribo on the bench. Victory will still be ours!

[Holmes_and_Watson]

SR delivering another new manager splat.

All their favourites back in with Stephens and Baz. Downes in presumably due to Charles' injury. Their (presumably data rather than reality driven) 3 CBs and a lone AA, running like a young kid between older kids at a kick about, trying to get the ball back.

But hey, no target man, no AMC, 2 CMs who don't get forward, Robinson who is very raw, Fellows put of position.

Even then, we did create another sitter. This week, it was Manning's turn to miss it.

Unsurprisingly, we look clueless in attack, and struggle to get any bodies up there. A lack of power, presence and pace lacking as always too.

Grim stuff. 

[Jack]

No changes by the looks of who’s walking back out. Great 

[Saint Fan CaM]

Jander doesn’t seem to be seeing much of the ball - typically because Downes and Manning conspire to pass the ball backwards most of the time.

Not sure where we’ll get a chance to score.

[Greedyfly]

Phew, no changes. Thank fuck. Didn't want any excitement messing up my Wednesday evening.

[Suhari]

Second half?

I suppose I should, since it's on.

[Cuddles]

This is a disgrace to the community 😫

[Patches O Houlihan]

8 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

We are missing Charles a lot. The only midfielder we have that looks for a forward pass. 

Not entirely true. Jander has taken the ball turned and charged forward with it a couple of times, but Fellows seems to be crap at loosing his marker (in every game) Arma is squeezed between 2 huge CBs and Scienza is in space but miles away 

[AlexLaw76]

4 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

who the fuck is on this advisory board ? has anyone ever met one

I have met one, asked me to take a selfie of him after a productive meeting

Edited 4 hours ago by AlexLaw76

[SaintNate]

Pint of vodka please barman. No ice cheers'un.

[skintsaint]

Thank fuck for that, my stream has died.

[Sheaf Saint]

What the actual fuck THB?

[The Kraken]

THB runs under the ball and spoons it up in the air. Well done dickhead.

[S-Clarke]

Just now, AlexLaw76 said:

I have met one, asked me to take a selfie after a productive meeting

If anyone sums up the current era for the wrong reasons, it's probably him to be honest.

Good lad, but he makes me cringe as much as the football team.

[SaintNate]

2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I have met one, asked me to take a selfie after a productive meeting

Me too, lovely old birds, they want sexy russell back

 

Edited 4 hours ago by SaintNate

[Bakovnetski]

9 minutes ago, benjii said:

You think this has been worse than Preston, Bristol City, Hull, Portsmouth?

Don't forget Stoke

[Convict Colony]

we have no cohesive style 

if saints were fashionistas

 

[Baird of the land]

Infuriating we have the ball on the edge of their box and then we pass all the way back to our cb and lose the ball.

[SaintNate]

Boring

Edited 4 hours ago by SaintNate

[obelisk]

Attacking situation but ball ends up with Bazunu and then THB gives it away. It's easy to see why Still dropped this lot.

[saintant]

Looks like the players dislike the interim coach.

[S-Clarke]

Just now, Convict Colony said:

we have no cohesive style 

if saints were fashionistas

 

Maybe we need Dominc Calvert-Lewin and Tom Davies?

[Edmonton Saint]

Why are we playing it long to Armstrong ? Maddening.