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Zorba

Zorba

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If the decision’s been made, the SFC media team will let us know.. without letting us know. Cryptic but not CoT cryptic.

trousers

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6 minutes ago, trousers said:

I'm still trying to deduce the significance (if any) of us not posting anything on social media about Ross Stewart's international call up... That's completely the opposite of what they usually do... Make of that what you will... The media team under instruction from up above not to post anything today...?

 

2 minutes ago, suewhistle said:

It's on the OS..

 

Yes, I know... But that's my point... They usual pepper social media on the occasion of an international call up (in addition to any OS article).... Not a peep today... extremely out of character and different to the norm.... Something doesn't feel right IMO....

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tisspahars

tisspahars

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Just now, trousers said:

 

Hmm... Usually a reliable poster I think...? 

 

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Last one of my 3.....I don't think I've ever put up anything claiming to be ITK in all my years on here. This has come from someone who would get to hear of this sort of stuff. Doesn't mean it's definitely true or that we are definitely screwed if it is but.....I'm now twitchy.

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DT

DT

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1 minute ago, Zorba said:

If the decision’s been made, the SFC media team will let us know.. without letting us know. Cryptic but not CoT cryptic.

I'm not sure they would, given how that may affect any appeal. Personally feeling a bit worried now, but hoping for fine and points.

Bushey Saint

Bushey Saint

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9 minutes ago, Stripey McStripe Shirt said:

What possible explanation could there be for that when there's 80,000 people waiting to know?

You'd have to ask them, not me.

egg

egg

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2 minutes ago, Cuddles said:

Where's Will?

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Nice!

The Saints boat looks properly suspicious to be fair. 

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DellBlockH

DellBlockH

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I have a ticket for Saturday, as does my son. I am slightly inconvenienced by not being able to book travel until I know for sure we will be at Wembley. My son does not live in Southampton and every day it gets nearer to Saturday, the price of flights increases and the availability decreases.

This pratting about has real consequences for us blameless fans.

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trousers

trousers

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3 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Clearly I was way off with 112.

I think we reset to 000 when we go over 999, so hang onto that sweepstake ticket for a while longer if I were you... ;)

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Miltonaggro

Miltonaggro

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7 minutes ago, trousers said:

I'm still trying to deduce the significance (if any) of us not posting anything on social media about Ross Stewart's international call up... That's completely the opposite of what they usually do... Make of that what you will... The media team under instruction from up above not to post anything today...?

The four other clubs that have bravely taken the stand against Saints have advised that Tonda was seen on Ross Stewart's shoulders at their training grounds. Photo is the dastardly duo running away at Wrexham.

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egg

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2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Testifying doesn't help them. Some evidence would be required. 

Testimony is evidence. It's for the panel to decide how to interpret that evidence, and to make findings accordingly. 

trousers

trousers

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2 minutes ago, tisspahars said:

Last one of my 3.....I don't think I've ever put up anything claiming to be ITK in all my years on here. This has come from someone who would get to hear of this sort of stuff. Doesn't mean it's definitely true or that we are definitely screwed if it is but.....I'm now twitchy.

Double bugger 😟

die Mannyschaft

die Mannyschaft

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11 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

Workshopping, but If the nuclear option were to be taken - and we were kicked out. It would likely mean Boro got to the final Vs hull, who would be favourites to beat them anyway (clear prep time / injuries etc). Presumably that would actually mean Boro would struggle to sue us for a meaningful amount, and we would also then likely have grounds for a legal challenge against the EFL?

I really don't think I can see the EFL taking that upon themselves?

Don't understand estimate EFLs stupidity they jumped when Boro complained about a minor infringement 

Maggie May

Maggie May

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If these latest posts are to be believed, it means most of us don’t have a clue about this case against us. I asked about why Middlesbrough continued to push having evidence of other clubs coming forward, only to be shot down by rather arrogant posters saying we are only facing one charge of spying against Boro. Sounds like we’re f***ed. 

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obelisk

obelisk

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2 hours ago, LegalEagle said:

What number pint you on? Aiming for 7 weren’t you?

Just got home. SIx and still no verdict despite leaving early. Shocking.

Pamplemousse

Pamplemousse

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Wasn't it previously reported that other teams had 'suspicions' but no other evidence. So it just be that those teams wrote to the EFL about that. If there was any clear evidence we'd have been charged with more offences. So the panel may consider it but we'll see.

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RedArmy

RedArmy

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1 minute ago, Maggie May said:

I asked about why Middlesbrough continued to push having evidence of other clubs coming forward,

Because it’s hearsay without any proof. 

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BotleySaint

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To be honest, if its true we've been doing it all season and breaking the rules. And its true Tonda is behind it and there is clear evidence. Then yes, fair enough, we deserve whatever is due for that.

We can't really complain?

But up till now there has been nothing solid to go on except the one picture and rumors.

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saintant

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17 minutes ago, tisspahars said:

Me again - same source says four clubs testified against Saints....

Thought this hearing was for evidence on us spying on Boro only?

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CanadaSaint

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3 minutes ago, egg said:

Testimony is evidence. It's for the panel to decide how to interpret that evidence, and to make findings accordingly. 

For it to carry any weight it wouldn't just need to be irrefutable evidence of spying, but evidence that it was inside the 72-hour window. Otherwise it's just shit thrown at the wall.

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trousers

trousers

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3 minutes ago, Maggie May said:

If these latest posts are to be believed, it means most of us don’t have a clue about this case against us. I asked about why Middlesbrough continued to push having evidence of other clubs coming forward, only to be shot down by rather arrogant posters saying we are only facing one charge of spying against Boro. Sounds like we’re f***ed. 

Still too early to claim your "told you so" medal matey 

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sadoldgit

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2 minutes ago, Maggie May said:

If these latest posts are to be believed, it means most of us don’t have a clue about this case against us. I asked about why Middlesbrough continued to push having evidence of other clubs coming forward, only to be shot down by rather arrogant posters saying we are only facing one charge of spying against Boro. Sounds like we’re f***ed. 

We haven’t been charged with spying against any other teams as yet. If they have come forward they will need to provide evidence of spying with the 72 hour period.

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Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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9 minutes ago, egg said:

Testimony is evidence. It's for the panel to decide how to interpret that evidence, and to make findings accordingly. 

"They were spying on us as well" as testimony is an unsubstantiated claim, not evidence in itself. More would be needed for it to be an issue.

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Saint NL

Saint NL

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Some numbnut on the Boro forum saying something similar, there's text evidence incriminating Tonda etc. 

But anything that has come from there has been absolute horseshit so that's reassuring 

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trousers

trousers

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Just now, BotleySaint said:

To be honest, if its true we've been doing it all season and breaking the rules. And its true Tonda is behind it and there is clear evidence. Then yes, fair enough, we deserve whatever is due for that.

Would relegation (aka expulsion from the Championship) be a too far fetched worst case scenario....?

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Saint86

Saint86

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1 minute ago, Saint NL said:

Some numbnut on the Boro forum saying something similar, there's text evidence incriminating Tonda etc. 

But anything that has come from there has been absolute horseshit so that's reassuring 

Technically this charge only relates to the first leg 🤷

Mr X

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Just now, trousers said:

Would relegation (aka expulsion from the Championship) be a too far fetched worst case scenario....?

Yes 

SNSUN

SNSUN

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27 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

One thing this whole saga has been very useful for is flushing out the absolute weapons who pretend to be ITK 

It's good to be able to definitively update the bullshitter's roll call at least once a season

Speaking of flushing, I'm not ITK but...Apparently Will Salt had a poo in the golf club before he left but the toilet didn't flush. Boro have analysed the poo in great detail and found it that he's not getting enough vegetables in his diet. The catering department at SMS have been let go. 

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Appy

Appy

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1 minute ago, trousers said:

Would relegation (aka expulsion from the Championship) be a too far fetched worst case scenario....?

Yeah, relegate us instead of the team who finished 22nd. 
 

And they were ….. Leicester. 

egg

egg

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1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said:

"They were spying on us as well" as testimony is a unsubstantiated claim, not evidence in itself. More would be needed for it to be an issue.

We could all make up what we want the evidence to be, but who knows what the evidence was. Whatever it was, it's the role of the panel to decide what weight to give to the evidence, and make findings on the balance of probabilities. That's how these things work. 

Gary R76

Gary R76

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22 minutes ago, tisspahars said:

Me again - same source says four clubs testified against Saints....

We only had 2 charges against us , if other clubs came forward further charges would have to be put against us

sfc4prem

sfc4prem

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There'll be a few 'ITK' snippets from now until the announcement I reckon. I wonder how many will be utter bollocks. I doubt the tribunal members would let anything slip.

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saintant

saintant

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15 minutes ago, tisspahars said:

Last one of my 3.....I don't think I've ever put up anything claiming to be ITK in all my years on here. This has come from someone who would get to hear of this sort of stuff. Doesn't mean it's definitely true or that we are definitely screwed if it is but.....I'm now twitchy.

Evening Harry.

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egg

egg

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1 minute ago, saintant said:

Far too hard.

Check the hot dog seller...very suspicious fringe. 

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Turkish

Turkish

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4 minutes ago, trousers said:

Would relegation (aka expulsion from the Championship) be a too far fetched worst case scenario....?

I think we might never be allowed to play again

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Saint NL

Saint NL

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2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

No one currently knows anything do they this is a load of bollocks. I reckon it comes out tonight at some point. 

There will certainly be clues. Alfie House mentioned the "steer", if Saints put out some fluff on the socials about the final then we can expect it to go ahead I'd reckon.

egg

egg

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Just now, sfc4prem said:

There'll be a few 'ITK' snippets from now until the announcement I reckon. I wonder how many will be utter bollocks. I doubt the tribunal members would let anything slip.

They won't, but if us and the EFL have been told, something could easily slip. 

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Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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1 minute ago, sfc4prem said:

There'll be a few 'ITK' snippets from now until the announcement I reckon. I wonder how many will be utter bollocks. I doubt the tribunal members would let anything slip.

But would it be the tribunal members letting something slip or the club/EFL? I think they've been informed of the outcome haven't they, just it's not being announced publicly till tomorrow (for some utterly bizarre reason).

sfc4prem

sfc4prem

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Just now, Saint_clark said:

But would it be the tribunal members letting something slip or the club/EFL? I think they've been informed of the outcome haven't they, just it's not being announced publicly till tomorrow (for some utterly bizarre reason).

If the club or EFL know then any form of embargo until tomorrow is, as you rightly say, bizarre.

Saint Garrett

Saint Garrett

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2 minutes ago, sfc4prem said:

There'll be a few 'ITK' snippets from now until the announcement I reckon. I wonder how many will be utter bollocks. I doubt the tribunal members would let anything slip.

My guess would be ppl are in strict instructions to not leak a thing…

Micky

Micky

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26 minutes ago, tisspahars said:

Me again - same source says four clubs testified against Saints....

So why did none of those four clubs formally report us to the EFL, at the time of the offence? 

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