Jason Taylor - Football Analyst

[Dman]

Thought I’d give him a thread of his own for the Google algorithm, for any future employment background searches. 

Grassing rat who squirrels company information onto personal devices to use against them. 

Not to be trusted and on top of that, not very good at his job, hence why he was sacked after a few months. 

[wild-saint]

Fucking amateur that a business the size of Southampton has a IT / Data Leak Protection policies allowing either internal information to be transferred to personal devices and / or allows company devices / employees to use application not controlled by them such as fucking WhatsApp.

i say it again it’s fucking amateur. I warn my clients about this shit for exactly these reasons. If the aren’t interested in fixing the processes then they ain’t my clients much longer. Fucking amateur.

[The Wyvern]

38 minutes ago, Dman said:

Thought I’d give him a thread of his own for the Google algorithm, for any future employment background searches. 

Grassing rat who squirrels company information onto personal devices to use against them. 

Not to be trusted and on top of that, not very good at his job, hence why he was sacked after a few months. 

You’d think future employers would think twice about giving him a chance, no way he could be trusted. 

[chownie20]

Perhaps he can be held personally liable - we don't know what he did and didn't sign. But not sure what we'd gain by going after him. Imagine he'll struggle for work with that on his cv

[Secret Site Agent]

He has ruined his career as no one will trust him again.

They will always be wary on what material he is collecting on them for the future.  Better to not employ than risk him taking your dirty laundry with him.

All companies do dodgy things and get away with a lot but no one wants to trust someone with no loyalty.

He won't be appreciated by Boro now the event is over only eyed with suspicion. He can benefit them no more. And where did it get them? No where in the scheme of things.

Take what will benefit you and use it but keep it to yourself. 

 

[benjii]

1 hour ago, wild-saint said:

Fucking amateur that a business the size of Southampton has a IT / Data Leak Protection policies allowing either internal information to be transferred to personal devices and / or allows company devices / employees to use application not controlled by them such as fucking WhatsApp.

i say it again it’s fucking amateur. I warn my clients about this shit for exactly these reasons. If the aren’t interested in fixing the processes then they ain’t my clients much longer. Fucking amateur.

To be fair, whilst you're correct, it is not at all uncommon, even in much larger businesses.

[AlexLaw76]

When Boro spit him out, I wonder how trustworthy others will think is.

[Saint86]

 

I believe this is the accused / suspected:

https://www.transfermarkt.com/jason-taylor/profil/trainer/126892#google_vignette

Pretty sure it is him (the whistleblower), I looked him up as soon as it was rumoured we'd hired an analyst from Boro and got rid of them in December - which was only a couple of days after this story broke and before his name got leaked, and already he has deleted his linked in profile... Why delete your linked in profile before your name is even out there?

Equally, fits in with how Boro had the limited but necessary minimum information available to stitch saints up from the get go - "look out for salt" and the details of the Oxford incident, both reported on 7th may.

Suspect Salt gave us up for the Eastleigh / Ipswich incident to save his own skin after the fact - as Taylor wouldn't have known about that.

(The dates in the EFL report show that the initial incident Ipswich knew about in advance was the Oxford incident, which was just before we sacked Taylor / Taylor left the club).

It's reported that Ipswich and Oxford didn't know they were scouted inside the cut off window. So surely has to have come from whistleblowers in both occasions.

Also, if these are the only 2 dates provided using whistleblower testimonies, it may not be as wide spread as fans think - which in turn means it's not as bad as the bielsa case. Certainly training ground privacy has improved a lot in recent years.

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Saint86

[AlexLaw76]

Imagine the scenes if Taylor was still in the 'SFC Group Chat' after he left 

🤣

[CSA96]

Deleted his LinkedIn. Shithouse 

[coalman]

2 hours ago, Dman said:

Thought I’d give him a thread of his own for the Google algorithm, for any future employment background searches. 

Grassing rat who squirrels company information onto personal devices to use against them. 

Not to be trusted and on top of that, not very good at his job, hence why he was sacked after a few months. 

Except he can trigger his Right to be Forgotten under EU law to have this removed from any search rankings.

[Dman]

The worst part of it all, he’s probably cost a few of his ex colleagues, who’ll be low paid, their jobs. 

Scumbag. 

[AlexLaw76]

1 minute ago, Dman said:

The worst part of it all, he’s probably cost a few of his ex colleagues, who’ll be low paid, their jobs. 

Scumbag. 

And now Boro failed (for the 3rd time) to gain promotion, to what end was this worth it?

It wont be long before he is spat out up there anyway.

[Miltonaggro]

When he is binned by Gibson as a single use contraceptive it would be really bad form for Saints fans to warn all potential employers that he is a corrupt snide. All being well he will be analysing in the Qatari third division soon, whilst being analised by the adoring locals. 

[The Wyvern]

Can’t be beyond the imagination that Gibson offered this lad some kind of incentive to make any future negative impacts on his career worthwhile. 

[Dman]

2 minutes ago, The Wyvern said:

Can’t be beyond the imagination that Gibson offered this lad some kind of incentive to make any future negative impacts on his career worthwhile. 

Incredibly dodgy ground if so. 

[SaintsLoyal]

So i will add on this thread what i said elsewhere.......

 

Did Taylor get the sack becuase he wouldnt spy or be involved in spying as a analyst team ?

Did Taylor entice Salt to spy and then simmply tip off Boro that a spy from Southampton would be coming.

Does Taylor realise what now could happen to WIll Salt for his revenge ?  mental health , suicide etc

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

[Dman]

1 minute ago, SaintsLoyal said:

So i will add on this thread what i said elsewhere.......

 

Did Taylor get the sack becuase he wouldnt spy or be involved in spying as a analyst team ?

Did Taylor entice Salt to spy and then simmply tip off Boro that a spy from Southampton would be coming.

Does Taylor realise what now could happen to WIll Salt for his revenge ?  mental health , suicide etc

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

Wasn’t he set piece analyst and didn’t we have one of the worst set piece records in the league at the time? 

[Nordic Saint]

if a young analyst were sent from Middlesbrough to spy on Southampton for a couple of months, then returned to Middlesbrough with information he'd gathered to be used against Southampton, and then told to delete his linked-in profile on the day some of that information was made public, that would be OK, wouldn't it?

Purely hypothetical, of course, because nobody could get away with it, could they?

Anyway, even if it was possible, it couldn't have been Taylor as, according to online profiles, he was never at Southampton: 

Jason Taylor - Manager profile | Transfermarkt

Edited 4 hours ago by Nordic Saint

[beatlesaint]

2 minutes ago, Nordic Saint said:

if a young analyst were sent from Middlesbrough to spy on Southampton for a few months, then returned to Middlesbrough with information he'd gathered to be used against Southampton, and then told to delete his linked-in profile on the day some of that information was made public, that would be OK, wouldn't it?

Purely hypothetical, of course, because nobody could get away with it, could they?

I think we are getting into the realms of fantasy here tbh

[Nordic Saint]

Just now, beatlesaint said:

I think we are getting into the realms of fantasy here tbh

Yes, like the Middlesbrough connections on the independent commission, purely coincidental, of course,.

[Turkish]

57 minutes ago, SaintsLoyal said:

So i will add on this thread what i said elsewhere.......

 

Did Taylor get the sack becuase he wouldnt spy or be involved in spying as a analyst team ?

Did Taylor entice Salt to spy and then simmply tip off Boro that a spy from Southampton would be coming.

Does Taylor realise what now could happen to WIll Salt for his revenge ?  mental health , suicide etc

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

Some reports have suggested that the whistle blower told Salt how to dodge the security. In the small, tight knit world of football whilst some will be applauding his actions publicly behind closed doors no one’s going to employ someone who shoots their mouth off about confidential information 

[Nordic Saint]

4 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Some reports have suggested that the whistle blower told Salt how to dodge the security. In the small, tight knit world of football whilst some will be applauding his actions publicly behind closed doors no one’s going to employ someone who shoots their mouth off about confidential information 

If he's been promised a job for life at Boro, he wouldn't need to look for another job. He probably knows too much for them to risk letting him go anyway.

[trousers]

23 minutes ago, Nordic Saint said:

if a young analyst were sent from Middlesbrough to spy on Southampton for a couple of months, then returned to Middlesbrough with information he'd gathered to be used against Southampton, and then told to delete his linked-in profile on the day some of that information was made public, that would be OK, wouldn't it?

Purely hypothetical, of course, because nobody could get away with it, could they?

Hands up... That conspiracy theory had occurred to me previously...

And, maybe, it's not so far fetched as it might seem... We now know that Tonda had 'previous' for spying... So, given Middlesbrough knew we were promotion rivals, they thought "send a mole" to work at Southampton for a few months would be a useful 'insurance policy' for the end of these season... Yeah, I know... Bonkers stuff!

Edited 4 hours ago by trousers

[Whitey Grandad]

2 minutes ago, Nordic Saint said:

If he's been promised a job for life at Boro, he wouldn't need to look for another job. He probably knows too much for them to risk letting him go anyway.

That's a life sentence with no parole. 

[Saint86]

2 minutes ago, trousers said:

Hands up... That conspiracy theory had occurred to me previously...

That one is a stretch to far.

[James G]

4 hours ago, Dman said:

Thought I’d give him a thread of his own for the Google algorithm, for any future employment background searches. 

Grassing rat who squirrels company information onto personal devices to use against them. 

Not to be trusted and on top of that, not very good at his job, hence why he was sacked after a few months. 

It's an odd thing to do

As much as we have spied and have been punished, from his perspective it's a strange thing to do. Trust is a massive thing for me when hiring people. 

[trousers]

3 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

That one is a stretch to far.

Nothing would surprise me in this whole saga anymore... But you're probably right...

[Sheaf Saint]

9 minutes ago, trousers said:

Hands up... That conspiracy theory had occurred to me previously...

And, maybe, it's not so far fetched as it might seem... We now know that Tonda had 'previous' for spying... So, given Middlesbrough knew we were promotion rivals, they thought "send a mole" to work at Southampton for a few months would be a useful 'insurance policy' for the end of these season... Yeah, I know... Bonkers stuff!

Will Still was still our manager when Taylor came to work for us.

Unless Gibson is some sort of prophet who can predict the future and somehow knew we would be sacking Still and promoting Tonda from the U21s, I think we can safely dismiss this idea.

[Miltonaggro]

22 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

That's a life sentence with no parole. 

It is in fucking Middlesbrough!

[East Kent Saint]

I'm generally against on line targeting of individuals as people do bad things totally out of proportion as a result of social media overreaction .

[Whitey Grandad]

18 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Will Still was still our manager when Taylor came to work for us.

Unless Gibson is some sort of prophet who can predict the future and somehow knew we would be sacking Still and promoting Tonda from the U21s, I think we can safely dismiss this idea.

But when Taylor left? It's quite possible that Taylor contacted his old employers and had/was given an incentive to leave..

[RedArmy]

35 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

That one is a stretch to far.

Bit more than a stretch. 
 

Taylor was employed before Tonda was given the job for starters, so they’d have to be in possession of a crystal ball to have planned that. 
 

That’s without the very obvious fact that at the time they appeared to have top 2 in firm control and we were staring at a relegation battle. 

[Whitey Grandad]

6 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

Bit more than a stretch. 
 

Taylor was employed before Tonda was given the job for starters, so they’d have to be in possession of a crystal ball to have planned that. 
 

That’s without the very obvious fact that at the time they appeared to have top 2 in firm control and we were staring at a relegation battle. 

But when Taylor left Tonda was in charge.

[SaintsLoyal]

I dont see how hes done this for free, there has got to be something coming his way.

 

Id want at least £1m 

[Sheaf Saint]

24 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

But when Taylor left Tonda was in charge.

Yes, but some are suggesting that him coming to us in the first place was part of some deep cover operation from Boro. Which it obviously wasn't.

[RedArmy]

26 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

But when Taylor left Tonda was in charge.

Even so I can assure you nobody in Middlesbrough was thinking twice back then about Saints stopping them get promoted. 

[Saint Fan CaM]

Pre-Tonda, with Taylor still employed, Saints were tanking. Tonda comes in, takes a look around at what’s occurring and determines that Taylor needs to go. He goes to Boro pissed off with Tonda and rats to Gibson who then decides to plot to use the intel when appropriate. The rest is history.

[bpsaint]

51 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

But when Taylor left? It's quite possible that Taylor contacted his old employers and had/was given an incentive to leave..

When Taylor left we weren’t even in the playoff race, nor would we have known we’d be facing then automatic promotion chasing Boro.

Unless they sent an undercover intern to about 8 different clubs I think we can dismiss the sleeper agent theory.

The notion that he tipped off Boro that we’d be sending a spy certainly is credible, but it probably wasn’t any more in depth than that.

Edited 3 hours ago by bpsaint

[Holmes_and_Watson]

5 hours ago, wild-saint said:

Fucking amateur that a business the size of Southampton has a IT / Data Leak Protection policies allowing either internal information to be transferred to personal devices and / or allows company devices / employees to use application not controlled by them such as fucking WhatsApp.

i say it again it’s fucking amateur. I warn my clients about this shit for exactly these reasons. If the aren’t interested in fixing the processes then they ain’t my clients much longer. Fucking amateur.

Yup. If you breach our strict data communications processes you will be disciplined. Basically, you will be fired.

Depending on what it is you've been stupid enough to communicate opens up a number of other painful avenues on both personal and corporate levels.

So much money, so little competence.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

Some reports have suggested that the whistle blower told Salt how to dodge the security. In the small, tight knit world of football whilst some will be applauding his actions publicly behind closed doors no one’s going to employ someone who shoots their mouth off about confidential information 

Sladden: Yeah, I reckon this'll cut through pretty well anything that exists. I did steel armor plate with it six inches thick, just like that! Oh, it was legal. Bloke shut in a strong room, I got him out. Secret job, like this one.

Col. Breen: Then I'm glad you don't talk about it.

- Quatermass and the Pit

[Miltonaggro]

29 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Pre-Tonda, with Taylor still employed, Saints were tanking. Tonda comes in, takes a look around at what’s occurring and determines that Taylor needs to go. He goes to Boro pissed off with Tonda and rats to Gibson who then decides to plot to use the intel when appropriate. The rest is history.

That’s very feasible in terms of a person like Gibson storing that info away for a potential use, even if it came second hand from a more senior member of staff. As always in business, knowledge is power of course.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

29 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

When Taylor left we weren’t even in the playoff race, nor would we have known we’d be facing then automatic promotion chasing Boro.

Unless they sent an undercover intern to about 8 different clubs I think we can dismiss the sleeper agent theory.

The notion that he tipped off Boro that we’d be sending a spy certainly is credible, but it probably wasn’t any more in depth than that.

That explains the club silence. Everyone is having The Catcher in the Rye read to them in the auditorium, with activated Manchurian Candidates then carted off.

[Pilchards]

If Taylor is known to be the one that started this spygate then I think he better keep his head down. The truth always comes out but probably not in the public eye.

There is a lot of crazy people out there and our owner won’t take it lightly losing out on a potential 200m.

Edited 44 minutes ago by Pilchards

[Saint_clark]

5 hours ago, coalman said:

Except he can trigger his Right to be Forgotten under EU law to have this removed from any search rankings.

Not anymore he cant, thanks Brexit.

[Toussaint]

3 hours ago, SaintsLoyal said:

I dont see how hes done this for free, there has got to be something coming his way.

 

Id want at least £1m 

Is that what the set the bail at for your release from the secure facility you find yourself in?

[Saint Fan CaM]

1 hour ago, bpsaint said:

When Taylor left we weren’t even in the playoff race, nor would we have known we’d be facing then automatic promotion chasing Boro.

Unless they sent an undercover intern to about 8 different clubs I think we can dismiss the sleeper agent theory.

The notion that he tipped off Boro that we’d be sending a spy certainly is credible, but it probably wasn’t any more in depth than that.

Absolutely - that’s why the information was not used immediately…no need to pull the trigger until the shots required. It was not until the last minute that the entire case built up over months was released to maximum effect. And Parsons just took the bait and allowed the club to be reeled in for slaughter. 

For me, if anyone needs to go it’s Parsons - he’s showed a lack of leadership in directing a number of policies and a total lack of commercial acumen when push came to shove. Oh for a strong no-nonsense CEO like Cortese…would’ve been all over Gibson.

[Crab Lungs]

Rat.

[benjii]

22 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Not anymore he cant, thanks Brexit.

He can, as the UK adopted the GDPR as retained law via the Data Protection Act 2018.

 

 

This is a benjii public service announcement.

[Saint_clark]

2 minutes ago, benjii said:

He can, as the UK adopted the GDPR as retained law via the Data Protection Act 2018.

 

 

This is a benjii public service announcement.

Woke nonsense.