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    Default Newcastle Vs Saints - Build Up

    Well my last two 'build up' threads have been wins, even if I missed the proper one for the second game.

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    You’ve got the job.

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    Not a happy hunting ground for us - is be happy with a draw

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    Get Romeu in for PEH and Boufal in for Redmond. Keep the rest the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by for_heaven's_Saint View Post
    Get Romeu in for PEH and Boufal in for Redmond. Keep the rest the same.
    Any other right back (living or otherwise) for Cedric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Instant Classic View Post
    Any other right back (living or otherwise) for Cedric.
    Yeah and this!

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    I'd take a draw.

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    We'll have to see how they do against Sheff Utd but they are clearly better than most expected under Bruce.

    I also just can't see 3 wins a row, it's almost like crazy talk considering our start to the season but we are better away from home so there is a chance, but I'd take a draw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamplemousse View Post
    I'd take a draw.
    This.

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    McCarthy

    Valery - Stephens - Bednarek - Bertrand

    Hojbjerg - JWP

    Djenepo - Boufal

    Long - Ings

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    Away from home they will defend deep and hit on the counter, and they're doing pretty well with it. At home to us, they won't be allowed to do that. When they do open up, they've struggled a bit more. I think there's something there for us if we press them like we can.

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    I'd take a draw. 8 points from Arsenal away, Watford home, Norwich home and Newcastle away would be a very acceptable return considering.

    On a side note, does anyone else think Steve Bruce is a very underrated manager? Does a solid, steady job wherever he goes just without achieving anything spectacular. Give me him over Marco Silva or Roberto Martinez any day. Plus he always seems to big us up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trousers View Post
    McCarthy

    Valery - Stephens - Bednarek - Bertrand

    Hojbjerg - JWP

    Djenepo - Boufal

    Long - Ings
    This!

    Really impressed with JWP, Long, Stephens and Bertie tonight.

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    Same team as today. Boufal great as an impact sub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Instant Classic View Post
    I'd take a draw. 8 points from Arsenal away, Watford home, Norwich home and Newcastle away would be a very acceptable return considering.

    On a side note, does anyone else think Steve Bruce is a very underrated manager? Does a solid, steady job wherever he goes just without achieving anything spectacular. Give me him over Marco Silva or Roberto Martinez any day. Plus he always seems to big us up.
    I agree, good manager imo. Want him to do well, just not with Newcastle, I don't think their fans deserve him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by for_heaven's_Saint View Post
    Get Romeu in for PEH and Boufal in for Redmond. Keep the rest the same.
    Thought PEH was good tonight - agree with Romeu and Boufal getting game time. I'd put Long in "cotton wool" - he did his job tonight but after tonights cameo, Adams as a better striking back up than Long or Obafemi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    Same team as today. Boufal great as an impact sub.
    Agree but with Adams for Long IMO. I thought the latter did alright tonight but still think Adams is the better player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    Agree but with Adams for Long IMO. I thought the latter did alright tonight but still think Adams is the better player.
    Adams needs to up his game when he is not in possession.
    We all know about Longs tenacity in chasing everything down, and when he went off (as well as Ings) having run themselves into the ground, we lost our front line of defence, and made it easier for them to start attacking build ups
    rather than panic long balls out of defence. Adams was always looking for an attacking option, but we needed him and fresh legs to chase and put them under pressure, which he didn't seem to be up to.

    He will score more goals than Long.

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    Long balls will kill us.

    We seem to really struggle with balls over top or winning the 2nd ball

    Can see a comfortable Newcastle win tbh.

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    I think Long did okay actually. Provides a lot of energy and hurries them up. Wish he could kick a football though


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    If Adams put in the performance Long did there would be no calls for him to be dropped. Stick with Long and Ings ffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by for_heaven's_Saint View Post
    Get Romeu in for PEH and Boufal in for Redmond. Keep the rest the same.
    No. Why change a winning team, it is more than the sum of its parts? Barring fitness issues we should send out the same side with a high-press attacking intent. Sofiane on at HT and Oriol Romeu ready to shore up the defence in the last quarter.

    3-1 to Saints if we start as we did last. night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_clark View Post
    If Adams put in the performance Long did there would be no calls for him to be dropped. Stick with Long and Ings ffs.

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    100! Why would anyone be dropping Long after last night?

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    Quote Originally Posted by for_heaven's_Saint View Post
    Get Romeu in for PEH and Boufal in for Redmond. Keep the rest the same.
    I've seen little of the football, but dropping Romeu has coincided with us turning a corner and getting results. It could be coincidence, but I'm happy to continue with this midfield.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if he freshens up the team a little bit to keep up the intensity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by for_heaven's_Saint View Post
    Get Romeu in for PEH and Boufal in for Redmond. Keep the rest the same.
    Why? Both had good games last night. I'd keep the same team, although I'd arguably replace Djenepo with Armstrong if he's fit to give a bit more solidity down the right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_clark View Post
    If Adams put in the performance Long did there would be no calls for him to be dropped. Stick with Long and Ings ffs.

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    Agree completely. I think Long is generally actually more effective in away games than home so after a good home performance from him, it would be mad to drop him.

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    Haven't we had more success away from home with the back 3? He might do that, though I'd probably go with the same team with maybe Boufal in for Redmond if he's recovered from that toe injury. He deserves a start and Redmond has been below par for a little while now.

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    Not sure if it’s common knowledge yet but we are wearing last years 3rd kit for this one, wonder how times we’ve worn 4 different kits in a season?

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    Would have to agree happy to take a point from this.Hopefully Boufal, Djenepo and Ings up top.

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    One point off relegation, four points off top half. There's certainly a lot to play for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Wayman View Post
    No. Why change a winning team, it is more than the sum of its parts? Barring fitness issues we should send out the same side with a high-press attacking intent. Sofiane on at HT and Oriol Romeu ready to shore up the defence in the last quarter.

    3-1 to Saints if we start as we did last. night.
    I've never bought into that argument personally. You pick the team you think will win the next game, not the one which has already won the last one. If Ralph thinks Boufal, Romeu or any other player would give us something we need against Newcastle then I'd back him to change the team. The only think I don't like is the defensive musical chairs we had earlier in the season but he seems relatively settled on that at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammysaint93 View Post
    Not sure if it’s common knowledge yet but we are wearing last years 3rd kit for this one, wonder how times we’ve worn 4 different kits in a season?
    Only Saints could master the feat of designing 3 kits which don't cover all away game scenarios!

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    Not won 3 in a row in the League since the Koeman days. It’d be nice to rectify that. These are the games we need to win, especially as it breeds confidence.

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    Certainly would take a draw, but a win would be a huge result and put us back in amongst the rest of the pack.

    Would keep the same team, apart from Valery for Cedric I think.

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    I'd keep Long in, he's a good out player while you've got something to hold on to. If we're chasing the game then that's a different story. Would be happy with a point here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT View Post
    I think Long did okay actually. Provides a lot of energy and hurries them up. Wish he could kick a football though


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    When he went one on one a couple of times yesterday, you could really see how ridiculously quick he still is. Won his fair share of headers, provided a good outlet ball and held the play up, hassled and harried like a dervish. Not fair to drop him after that IMHO.

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    I'm very worried about Allan Saint Miximin running against our defence. He made the Man City defence look like Sunday league players last weekend

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    Can't see us making changes to a winning lineup.
    I'd prefer to see Valery at right back, so hopefully he'll eventually dislodge the mediocre Cedric.

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    I think it's going to be hard to call the line-up - three games in eight days for a high-pressing side will take its toll. Just please, Valery in for Cedric.
    At least we get an extra day to prepare compared to Newcastle.

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    Same as yesterday but boufal i. Got Redmond who was poor and Valery in for Cedric who was utter gash

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammysaint93 View Post
    Not sure if its common knowledge yet but we are wearing last years 3rd kit for this one, wonder how times weve worn 4 different kits in a season?
    Not with black short surely? Maybe the white ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SNSUN View Post
    Not won 3 in a row in the League since the Koeman days. It’d be nice to rectify that. These are the games we need to win, especially as it breeds confidence.
    To think we were seconds away from beating Arsenal too. Such fine margins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tunit View Post
    I'm very worried about Allan Saint Miximin running against our defence. He made the Man City defence look like Sunday league players last weekend
    With a name like that, maybe he'll pop in an own goal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tunit View Post
    I'm very worried about Allan Saint Miximin running against our defence. He made the Man City defence look like Sunday league players last weekend
    Both him and Almiron look very dangerous on the break, but you'd think considering they are at home they are the ones that will be looking to break us down and we will be looking more for the counters.

    Newcastle's best performances have basically come from having little possession, defending deep and countering at pace, be interesting how they approach the game at home against a team they would be expected to beat.

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    I too think Allan saint maximin Is a huge threat to us. he's got boufal level dribbling abilities and is also quicker. his end product still questionable tho but he'll more than likely unsettle our poor defence. I'd definitely drop Cedric for this as valery will be fresher and eager to impress. plus he should be an upgrade on Cedric who seems inept at the moment.

    as others have said I'd be happy with a draw here as Bruce seems to have shored them up and they seem really difficult to beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    Same team as today. Boufal great as an impact sub.
    You could argue rewarding players like boufal on form would be good for motivation levels, would also give under performing players like redmond a boot up the a@@ to try reclaim his place.. you know if your boufal your coming off the bench and at a lot of times looking the best player on the pitch changing games and creating chances off the bench isn’t it going to be a bit demoralising if your still on the bench next week and the next week.. good form like that should create competition not to be just classed as a impact sub

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    Would go 4-3-3 as we did at Arsenal:

    McC


    Valery Bednarek Stephens Bertrand


    JWP Oriel Hoj




    Long Ings Boufal




    Redmond for Boufal if not fit
    Armstrong for Oriel if fit

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    Quote Originally Posted by tunit View Post
    I'm very worried about Allan Saint Miximin running against our defence. He made the Man City defence look like Sunday league players last weekend
    me too. Can't give him space to turn on the afterburners.

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    Just suddenly occurred to me that that **** Andy Carroll is back at Newcastle, with his love for scoring against us.

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