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    Quote Originally Posted by eelpie View Post
    Yes, pity that we didn't make an approach before he signed up to play in the States.
    If he was the player he was when he left then I would agree, but he isn't. There is a reason why he left on a free - his knees are shot.

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    Weird people assume all players who rarely do much will do it against us. Then they cite examples of it happening and ignore the many times it doesn't. I'm old enough to remember Grealish destroying our defence 2 weeks ago.

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    With no Armstrong we really need Djenepo playing if possible. If not we'll have to rely on Boufal. Either way, JWP vital back in midfield as they'll try and pack the centre of the pitch.

    Any of our **** keepers, doesn't matter
    Bednarek Vestergaard Stephens
    Valery JWP Højbjerg Bertrand
    Long Ings Djenepo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Garrett View Post
    Would go....

    --------------McCarthy
    ----KWP Bednarek Stephens Bertrand
    ------------JWP Hojbjerg
    ----Armstrong--------Djenepo
    -----------Long--Ings
    Unless he sticks with JWP at RB (hope not), team should pick itself. Please no messing around with Vestergaard.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    Smallbone and Armstrong unavailable according to Hasenhuttl.

    Smallbone ill and Armstrong not trained due to concussion vs West Ham.
    No wonder Armstrong wasn't great against WHU if he played 88 mins with concussion..

    That must mean JWP back in midfield with JWP/Valery at RB. Problem with Armstrong out. For me he's the intelligent and imaginative part of our attack. Guess that may mean Boufal and Djenepo but I'd be interested to see Adams tried in a slightly more withdrawn role.

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    Too many decent players not available, Redmond and Armstrong, could have JWP still at RB, really need Ings to re-find his scoring for for this or we could be in trouble.

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    Seriously, what kind of concussion lasts a week??

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloggy saint View Post
    Seriously, what kind of concussion lasts a week??


    It usually only lasts up to a few days or weeks
    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/concussion/

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintAndyB View Post
    Was a decent win for them to give a bit of confidence, might end up working against us.
    Indeed.I was hoping for a suspension or two, along with an injury to someone like Shelvy who always seems to score against us. Unfortunately the only injury he might have sustained the other night is a splinter in his ar$e from sitting on the bench at West Brom. Unlikely to keep him out on Saturday though.

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    They’ll be set up defensively but have attacking weapons which is why it’s puzzling they struggle to score goals in the league. I’d like to get one over on a Bruce team.

    McCarthy, KWP, Stephens, Bednarek, Bertrand, JWP, Hojbjerg, Djenepo, Boufal, Long, Ings.

    JWP back in midfield please. I’ll take any kind of victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriansfc View Post
    With no Armstrong we really need Djenepo playing if possible. If not we'll have to rely on Boufal. Either way, JWP vital back in midfield as they'll try and pack the centre of the pitch.

    Any of our **** keepers, doesn't matter
    Bednarek Vestergaard Stephens
    Valery JWP Højbjerg Bertrand
    Long Ings Djenepo
    We wont be returning to 5 at the back, not with the success Ralph has had with 4-4-2 and 4-2-2-2 and definitely not at home to Newcastle. KWP in at right back, JWP back in the middle alongside PEH. Djenepo in for Armstrong. Simples

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    I'm hoping that we manage to turn things around this week, but Armstrong will be a big loss IMO. I want players to play in their best positions, but I'm not sure about playing both Boufal and Djenepo. If we don't do that, it would mean either playing Adams, or one of the full backs in a more attacking role, such as Valery or Vokins, or playing JWP further forward with Romeu coming into CM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    You can get post coincussive syndrome which is very unpleasant and can last for some time.
    I had headaches and felt between 75 and 90% normal,for a good three weeks.
    It varies in severity. I know two other people who have had it after very bad falls.
    It would affect match fitness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloggy saint View Post
    Seriously, what kind of concussion lasts a week??
    I have a friend who is still recovering from concussion from a bicycle accident 2 years ago.

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    It makes you realise how important JWP has become this season if you think we could really do with three of him tomorrow: RB, DM and replacement for Armstrong.

    I think KWP must start (or just possibly Valery, but doubt it). Then it's a toss-up between starting Boufal and Djenepo which could equally well be exciting or a disjointed flop, or put JWP alongside Djenepo with Romeu at DM. Shame Smallbone is out, or I'd have gone for the second option with Smallbone instead of Romeu.

    But I still wonder if Ralph try something different, such as Adams as #10.

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    If Armstrong was concussed badly enough to miss this game then he really should have been substituted at the first possible opportunity against WHU

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    Is Armstrong actually out? Haven't seen an actual link to this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint86 View Post
    Is Armstrong actually out? Haven't seen an actual link to this?
    According to Ralph in the press conference, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint86 View Post
    Is Armstrong actually out? Haven't seen an actual link to this?
    Have you looked?

    https://www.southamptonfc.com/news/2...league-2019-20

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    What the hell were our medical staff doing last week? Concussion this bad a week later YET he played the full 90 minutes?! Ridiculous. Explains his performance last week though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LGTL View Post
    What the hell were our medical staff doing last week? Concussion this bad a week later YET he played the full 90 minutes?! Ridiculous. Explains his performance last week though.
    Symptoms of concussion can be delayed onset. Unfortunately it appears that's what happened with Armstrong as he'll have gone through the concussion protocol after a knock to the head.

    It's one of the cracks in the concussion protocol, as a second knock to the head for Armstrong would have been very dangerous, but the alternative is that any player that gets any knock to the head is required to be subbed, regardless of whether they appear to be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloggy saint View Post
    Seriously, what kind of concussion lasts a week??
    Loads of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LGTL View Post
    What the hell were our medical staff doing last week? Concussion this bad a week later YET he played the full 90 minutes?! Ridiculous. Explains his performance last week though.
    Protocol/guidelines say a player should not return for at least 6 days following a suspected concussion, so likely that Stu would not have been available tomorrow whatever the seriousness. The question that should be asked though is why was he allowed to carry on playing last Saturday. Did he actually leave the pitch to be assessed by a doctor? I haven't seen the incident so just asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Indeed.I was hoping for a suspension or two, along with an injury to someone like Shelvy who always seems to score against us. Unfortunately the only injury he might have sustained the other night is a splinter in his ar$e from sitting on the bench at West Brom. Unlikely to keep him out on Saturday though.
    Hopefully Ralph has brought in Harry Potter on loan, but yeah typical sort of player that will get a goal against us.

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    With Armstrong, Redmond out Boufal and Djenepo plays out wide. If Djenepo can't play JWP will play RM, Höjbjerg and Romeu CM and Boufal LM.

    I would've liked to se a 3-5-2 With Boufal behind Long and Ings at the top.

    ..................McCarthy..................
    ......Danso. Stephens. Bednarek....
    KWP......JWP...Höjbjerg....Bertrand
    ...................Boufal.....................
    .........Long.............Ings..............

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    Have u not watched us play this system!!!!!! Have u not seen how poor danso is and how lightweight kwp is, we dont need to pi** around with the ball at the back for 90 min, let them have 60% of the ball then bring them on to us then press then and play through the channels like we did against Villa and Spurs at home

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjurwi View Post
    With Armstrong, Redmond out Boufal and Djenepo plays out wide. If Djenepo can't play JWP will play RM, Höjbjerg and Romeu CM and Boufal LM.

    I would've liked to se a 3-5-2 With Boufal behind Long and Ings at the top.

    ..................McCarthy..................
    ......Danso. Stephens. Bednarek....
    KWP......JWP...Höjbjerg....Bertrand
    ...................Boufal.....................
    .........Long.............Ings..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjurwi View Post
    With Armstrong, Redmond out Boufal and Djenepo plays out wide. If Djenepo can't play JWP will play RM, Höjbjerg and Romeu CM and Boufal LM.

    I would've liked to se a 3-5-2 With Boufal behind Long and Ings at the top.

    ..................McCarthy..................
    ......Danso. Stephens. Bednarek....
    KWP......JWP...Höjbjerg....Bertrand
    ...................Boufal.....................
    .........Long.............Ings..............
    If we did go three at the back, which we won't, it would be Vestergaard, not Danso.

    Pretty sure Djenepo will start and we need KWP at RB. The question is whether to put JWP in his normal position with Hojbjerg and Boufal or someone else (Adams?) with Djenepo, or bring in Romeu and push JWP forwards to replace Armstrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    If we did go three at the back, which we won't, it would be Vestergaard, not Danso.

    Pretty sure Djenepo will start and we need KWP at RB. The question is whether to put JWP in his normal position with Hojbjerg and Boufal or someone else (Adams?) with Djenepo, or bring in Romeu and push JWP forwards to replace Armstrong.

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    Agree with all of this. We have to keep a four at the back and play on the front foot like we did against Villa in the last home match. It will be interesting to see what Ralph does with the 2 number 10s. With Armstrong unfortunately missing today, it could well be Prowsey pushed up and Romeu bought back in alongside Pierre. I hope Boufal starts as one of the 10s. Be good to see Moussa too, hope everyone gets behind him today and supports him after what hes just gone through. KWP to start at RB for me also. 2-0 to us today - Ings and Boufal COYR

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    Get your cash on Shelvey anytime. 4/1 via Coral which I don’t think is too bad! Without Armstrong and Redmond it could be a tough afternoon for Ings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBizzier69 View Post
    Get your cash on Shelvey anytime. 4/1 via Coral which I don’t think is too bad! Without Armstrong and Redmond it could be a tough afternoon for Ings.
    If we don’t man mark Shelvey he will of course destroy us. Hopefully previous lessons have been learned!!!!

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    Valery back at RB with JWP back in midfield. More optimistic now.

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    Very strange Valery starts. Two weeks ago we were told although he’d been back 3 weeks and played for the u23s earlier this week he wasn’t match fit to start. He’s not played at all since then but is now match fit enough to start.

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    Decent team IMO, probably the best from the players fit.

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    I think it's the right decision to play a specialist RB and will be good to have JWP back in midfield. Valery situation is odd though.

    Hope Boufal can show a bit more today, and a Djenepo goal would be good to see after his last couple of weeks.

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    So we do have Boufal and Djenepo both playing, with Valery at RB and Ward Prowse in midfield. Ralph has gone for players in their natural positions! 3 defenders and no wide players on the bench, though, which indicates there's not anyone else who's rated very highly by the management in the U23s, I'd say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    Very strange Valery starts. Two weeks ago we were told although he’d been back 3 weeks and played for the u23s earlier this week he wasn’t match fit to start. He’s not played at all since then but is now match fit enough to start.
    Thats because Ralph has seen KWP isnt very good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    Decent team IMO, probably the best from the players fit.
    Yep, more optimistic about this line up than I was for last week’s against West Ham. Valery over KWP we can only think he’s impressed in training but again better to develop one of our own.

    Ings to score today, I can feel it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danjosaint View Post
    Thats because Ralph has seen KWP isnt very good
    Maybe, although it’s very confusing how Valery has suddenly become match fit without playing any matches. Several posters on here were absolutely adamant that was the reason Ward Prowse had been playing there ahead of the other two recently

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    Boufal starting, I used to get enthusiastic when he started a game but now not so much, I think the expression is 'he flatters to deceive'.

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    Glad to see Valery back.
    Let's hope Boufal and Djenepo can fire and stay fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Billy View Post
    Boufal starting, I used to get enthusiastic when he started a game but now not so much, I think the expression is 'he flatters to deceive'.
    He has talent though, I’m secretly hoping he signs a new contract in the summer and stays, the tears the league up next season. He still has his bets years in front of him. However I do think, with one year of contract left and him largely been a bench player this season, he’ll be sold.

    Still, we might get a good performance or two out of him before then, maybe today. Redmond and Armstrong and safer hands in the wide positions but Djenepo and Boufal are the X Factors. Should certainly make exciting viewing for the spectators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    Maybe, although it’s very confusing how Valery has suddenly become match fit without playing any matches. Several posters on here were absolutely adamant that was the reason Ward Prowse had been playing there ahead of the other two recently
    All very strange.
    Can only assume KwP will need 2 months to build up his fitness after a few weeks out.

    Good line up though. And they are playing a more attacking set up. Should be good

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    Quote Originally Posted by SNSUN View Post
    He has talent though, I’m secretly hoping he signs a new contract in the summer and stays, the tears the league up next season. He still has his bets years in front of him. However I do think, with one year of contract left and him largely been a bench player this season, he’ll be sold.

    Still, we might get a good performance or two out of him before then, maybe today. Redmond and Armstrong and safer hands in the wide positions but Djenepo and Boufal are the X Factors. Should certainly make exciting viewing for the spectators.
    Why? Just how little does this guy have to do, before some people will accept he's not a Premier League player? He's not done anything of note in a game he has started, since that goal against Boro in 2016. A few fleeting glimpses of talent as a sub, in other words when defenders have been running around for 70 minutes and he has an unfair advantage, are about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    Maybe, although it’s very confusing how Valery has suddenly become match fit without playing any matches. Several posters on here were absolutely adamant that was the reason Ward Prowse had been playing there ahead of the other two recently
    Yes, the whole Valery thing is very strange. Its like the one again, off again, crazy ex-girlfriend

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