Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 What has the Pochmeister done to turn him from an ineffective, Championship looking striker to being the player he is now? Unrecognisable to what he looked like under Adkins. Big credit to Poch and Rodriguez for turning it round... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 He is actually being used as a striker. It helps to play him to his strengths!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 I think it´s all down to the trust he has been giving him and working on his mentality. Attributes football-wise were always there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 Always looked capable user Adkins, just needed a bit of time to settle. He's now seemed to have bulked up a little bit so getting pushed off the ball less. Also wiser up a bit under Poche. Plus Poches tactics of high pressing clearly suits JRod's work rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 Who expected Jay to hit his straps at the start of the Premier League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 He is actually being used as a striker. It helps to play him to his strengths!! Totally agree. It was so unfair to give the player his first taste of Premier League football by asking him to play out wide on the left where, lets be honest, he looked average at best. All MP has done is play him as a striker, bigged up his confidence and look how much he has improved in just the last 2-3 months never mind since August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 Thought he was improving under Adkins but the pressing, more direct, style definitely suits him. Long term, he is Lambert's replacement up the middle still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 He now looks a future England player. The way he can dribble with the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 I wonder how shamefaced a lot of posters would be after reading the thread about the 7m waste of money thread that was on here a few months ago. I do hope JRod did not read that garbage at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 I wonder how shamefaced a lot of posters would be after reading the thread about the 7m waste of money thread that was on here a few months ago. I do hope JRod did not read that garbage at the time. Again is don't think anyone did say that. It was more about the size of the fee and like with Ramirez, Maykua and Forren could that money have been better spent elsewhere. Anyway, its boring arguement, great to see Rodriguez playing so well, scoring regularly and looking like a player of real ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 He is actually being used as a striker. It helps to play him to his strengths!! I think that NA was afraid to alter the status quo in August ...and play him upfront. JayRod looked lost when out out on the left wing. NOW ..give him a more striking role he's a success .....AND Rickie looks just as dangerous playing wider........ good solution alround. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 I think that NA was afraid to alter the status quo in August ...and play him upfront. JayRod looked lost when out out on the left wing. NOW ..give him a more striking role he's a success .....AND Rickie looks just as dangerous playing wider........ good solution alround.it seems to me that the new manager has a better understanding of how a player is suited.Morgan has become a better player IMO as he now is making fantastic attacking runs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 He now looks a future England player. The way he can dribble with the ball. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint137 Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 That surging run down the left in the 2nd half, and the way he chipped Terry set him apart today. What a revelation, powerful, quick, composed on the ball. Could do with looking up a bit more and feeding the wide players with those runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 It's like Smoky and the Bandit, Rickie is increasing looking like the the blocker for J-rod. I do wonder if the fact he speaks Spanish has an influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 IMO, he's always had the talent and ability, he's shown signs of that since day one in the Prem, but he's now using that properly and making better decisions. He's reading the game better and looks a more experienced player. That, plus we're not trying to use him as a winger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 It's like Smoky and the Bandit, Rickie is increasing looking like the the blocker for J-rod. I do wonder if the fact he speaks Spanish has an influence. Nah he doesn't, they are working brilliantly together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 J Rod in starting to look like a player shocker You lot never cease to amaze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_saints Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 really has taken a step up under MP and is now brimming with confidence and taking on defenders with the belief he can beat them. worth noting that most of his goals are not just tap ins but really skillful finishes. hopes he continues to improve and become a key player next season (probably already is one this second half of the season) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 He scared them to death in the 1st half. You lot got a bargain there. And that was from the Gooners & Spuds around us today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 Credit where credit is due Nigel always had faith in him and playing him on the wing was not really the issue. He played there very effectively for Burnley. He was starting to come good under Nigel those last few games. The big difference under MP is that he is given freedom to express himself. One minute you see him as a centre forward and the next he is hugging the sideline. Same goes for lambo and puncheon who swaps sides much more than under Nigel. Reading the tweets and os it is clear the players a really looking forward to next weeks game. I think a few have a point to make! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 He's being played in his best position now with licence to express himself instead of being stuck out wide so it's no real surprise he's finally showing his real worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 It's like Smoky and the Bandit, Rickie is increasing looking like the the blocker for J-rod. I do wonder if the fact he speaks Spanish has an influence. Pretty sure he said in an interview that he can't speak Spanish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 Pretty sure he said in an interview that he can't speak Spanish. He can't. Plus no way Lambert is holding him back, absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 He now looks a future England player. The way he can dribble with the ball. Future? I'd have him in now. Normally I wouldn't be saying that but right now we're talking about Carroll, Sturridge and Welbeck walking into the squad with 1 decent performance each month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 Pretty sure he said in an interview that he can't speak Spanish. Needs to sharpen up his English on tonight's evidence. Looked superb (on the pitch) on MOTD though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 31 March, 2013 Share Posted 31 March, 2013 He is actually being used as a striker. It helps to play him to his strengths!! Is he? Rickie Lambert also played as a striker today. That being so, who played wide left for us? JRod is playing a fairly similar position to that he started the season in. We didn't play 4-4-2 today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 31 March, 2013 Share Posted 31 March, 2013 Just a bit of confidence to do what's asked of him really... He's getting a lot better on the wings where he should be most the time and when he is bursting into the box from half a mile out no defence/midfield seem to know what to do with him which is hilarious! Just needs to spend more time on his finishing and he'll be the next on a long list of our players linked with the "big 6" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 31 March, 2013 Share Posted 31 March, 2013 What has the Pochmeister done to turn him from an ineffective, Championship looking striker to being the player he is now? Unrecognisable to what he looked like under Adkins. Big credit to Poch and Rodriguez for turning it round... He hasn't really done anything. Like your posts about our first 8 games of this season, you have incorrectly identified that he was doing something wrong and has changed it. He was doing plenty right under Adkins too, and the world and his dog knew we'd signed him to improve and develop and he'd probably get better by the end of the season if we kept picking him. It's like saying Spurs turned Bale into a world class player, when he was making 50 yard dribbles and pinging in free-kicks for Saints in the Championship. As indeed Rodriguez was scoring for fun for Burnley, come to think of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suomi Saint Posted 31 March, 2013 Share Posted 31 March, 2013 I like the way he attacks defences head-on and with speed. The one negative for me is his shooting from 15 to 20 yards - he does it with no real conviction. If he improves that, and his heading, then he will be some player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 31 March, 2013 Share Posted 31 March, 2013 I think that NA was afraid to alter the status quo in August ...and play him upfront. JayRod looked lost when out out on the left wing. NOW ..give him a more striking role he's a success .....AND Rickie looks just as dangerous playing wider........ good solution alround. He started the first game of the season up-front. Rickie is still being picked as the central striker - with J-Rod left and AL right; it's just that they all seem to inter-change more under MP than they did under NA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 31 March, 2013 Share Posted 31 March, 2013 He started the first game of the season up-front. Rickie is still being picked as the central striker - with J-Rod left and AL right; it's just that they all seem to inter-change more under MP than they did under NA. No he didn't. He played wide left. Guly played through the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 31 March, 2013 Author Share Posted 31 March, 2013 He hasn't really done anything. Like your posts about our first 8 games of this season, you have incorrectly identified that he was doing something wrong and has changed it. He was doing plenty right under Adkins too, and the world and his dog knew we'd signed him to improve and develop and he'd probably get better by the end of the season if we kept picking him. It's like saying Spurs turned Bale into a world class player, when he was making 50 yard dribbles and pinging in free-kicks for Saints in the Championship. As indeed Rodriguez was scoring for fun for Burnley, come to think of it. Well I can see a clear difference in the way he is playing over the last 3 or 4 games than in his last 3 or 4 under Adkins even if you can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 31 March, 2013 Author Share Posted 31 March, 2013 No he didn't. He played wide left. Guly played through the middle. True story dat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 31 March, 2013 Share Posted 31 March, 2013 No he didn't. He played wide left. Guly played through the middle. So he did, my mistake; for some reason had it in my head that he was central with Guly in the AM role. Anyway, my second point still stands. We are not playing 4-4-2 and nor is Rickie being picked as the wide left player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 31 March, 2013 Share Posted 31 March, 2013 JRod has still been playing in a wide position. He's not playing as a striker. But he has the pace and work rate to play up front as well as defensively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 31 March, 2013 Share Posted 31 March, 2013 I did not realise he had that pace until recently. Just needs to strenghten his shots and he will be a complete player. Time very much on his side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 31 March, 2013 Share Posted 31 March, 2013 Yet another player written off by the mongs on here before he'd even settled in, and now he looks like a class act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 31 March, 2013 Share Posted 31 March, 2013 I did not realise he had that pace until recently. Just needs to strenghten his shots and he will be a complete player. Time very much on his side. I'd say he has to do a bit more than that before he's a complete player. The improvement in him since the start of the season has been impressive but he still has a long way to develop yet. He needs to find composure; he is able to make opportunities for himself but is prone to either making the wrong decision or making a mistake and losing the opportunity he has just created. For example yesterday; he showed a brilliant bit of skill to lift it over John Terry and make him look a complete mug, but took a really heavy touch after that and lost it to Cech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redder freak Posted 31 March, 2013 Share Posted 31 March, 2013 He's starting to remind me of Thierry Henri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 31 March, 2013 Share Posted 31 March, 2013 He's certainly come on tremendously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvaughanwilliams Posted 31 March, 2013 Share Posted 31 March, 2013 We've moved to a more flexible formation with players given the freedom to move around. When we didn't have the ball Rodriguez was on the left wing with Lambert waiting on the half way line. When Boruc was taking a goal kick or a free kick from an offside Lambert would go to the wing to take advantage of Bertrand or Azpilicueta's lack of experience and J-Rod would take a position in the middle in front of the centre backs. Lambert wouldn't have won as many headers against Ivanovic and Terry, but both got exposed by Rodriguez's pace. Clearly a lesson learned from the QPR game where Samba won every header with Lambert staying in the centre. The understanding that has grown between Lambert and Rodriguez and presumably the trust that the manager has in them to take up the right positions benefits them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 31 March, 2013 Share Posted 31 March, 2013 We've moved to a more flexible formation with players given the freedom to move around. When we didn't have the ball Rodriguez was on the left wing with Lambert waiting on the half way line. When Boruc was taking a goal kick or a free kick from an offside Lambert would go to the wing to take advantage of Bertrand or Azpilicueta's lack of experience and J-Rod would take a position in the middle in front of the centre backs. Lambert wouldn't have won as many headers against Ivanovic and Terry, but both got exposed by Rodriguez's pace. Clearly a lesson learned from the QPR game where Samba won every header with Lambert staying in the centre. The understanding that has grown between Lambert and Rodriguez and presumably the trust that the manager has in them to take up the right positions benefits them both. Agree entirely. There is much more fluidity about where our forward players are playing than simply saying "on the wing" or "up front". Steven Davis's role is also interesting, particularly when we don't have possession... snapping at the centre backs while lambert and jayrod take up deeper and wider positions. Great to have players that are comfortable playing more dynamically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 31 March, 2013 Share Posted 31 March, 2013 from Saints Analysis on twitter Edit: picture doesn´t seem to work...sry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 31 March, 2013 Share Posted 31 March, 2013 For those with twitter https://twitter.com/SFCPlayerStats/status/318407433661865985/photo/1/large Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 31 March, 2013 Share Posted 31 March, 2013 Not necessarily in this order : a) A run in the team ! b) Playing in best position with flexibility allowed ! c) Confidence, probably due to a) + b). d) Proving SWF arseholes wrong ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 1 April, 2013 Share Posted 1 April, 2013 He is actually being used as a striker. It helps to play him to his strengths!! Exactly Colin..now why didn't he think of that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones91 Posted 1 April, 2013 Share Posted 1 April, 2013 not necessarily in this order : A) a run in the team ! B) playing in best position with flexibility allowed ! C) confidence, probably due to a) + b). D) proving swf arseholes wrong ! swf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 1 April, 2013 Share Posted 1 April, 2013 swf? Saints Web Forum (or mongboard as some of our trolls prefer to call it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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