Golden Balls Posted 12 April, 2013 Share Posted 12 April, 2013 I think it needs changing. Looks very childish. Needed doing for a long time. Of course when it does get redone Cortese will be blamed for sucking tradition out of the club again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 12 April, 2013 Share Posted 12 April, 2013 The badge is brilliant and doesn't need changing, it is certainly not childish. It shape of it always seems a bit anthropomorphic to me, the Southampton FC black bit is like legs spread wide with and opened flower exposed and the tree is like a pair of breasts and the black bit on the ball is like an open round mouth of someone with their head leaning back. Do the shop do a large blow up version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 12 April, 2013 Share Posted 12 April, 2013 I think it needs changing. Looks very childish. Needed doing for a long time. Of course when it does get redone Cortese will be blamed for sucking tradition out of the club again. If there is a change to the badge it will be yet another nail in the coffin of tradition. This ranks alongside abolition of the terraces, woolly home knitted scarfs and bobble hats, snow covered pitches, and of course the Dell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 12 April, 2013 Share Posted 12 April, 2013 The badge is brilliant and doesn't need changing, it is certainly not childish. It shape of it always seems a bit anthropomorphic to me, the Southampton FC black bit is like legs spread wide with and opened flower exposed and the tree is like a pair of breasts and the black bit on the ball is like an open round mouth of someone with their head leaning back. Do the shop do a large blow up version. I would struggle to knock one out while looking at the club crest tbf. Although some on here I expect have been doing that for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 12 April, 2013 Share Posted 12 April, 2013 I quite like the crest as it is very original and different. That said it is very cartoon like and 70's as per the era it was designed. Like most thing's I have an open mind about a change of badge but.... It would depend on what they change it to. There are some shockers around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 12 April, 2013 Share Posted 12 April, 2013 Please no. Got the badge on my leg just under a year ago, will be f*cking livid if it's changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 12 April, 2013 Share Posted 12 April, 2013 Please no. Got the badge on my leg just under a year ago, will be f*cking livid if it's changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 12 April, 2013 Share Posted 12 April, 2013 I like it. The silver looks more "cutting edge" for the front of the programme etc and the original is spot on for the club's heritage. It is recognisable and, frankly, looks better then most! If it's not broke ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 12 April, 2013 Share Posted 12 April, 2013 FWIW, I'm no fan of our current crest. It looks like the designer brainstormed the club and combined the resulting imagary to form an almost childish logo. Yes, it's OUR logo, and we have grown fond of it. Again, this is just my opinion, but I find the previous crest (the city shield we had in 76) to be a far more professional image. Sure it wasn't owned by the club, so I fully understand the change, but to me it feels far more traditional, and far more complete as a logo. I acutually quite like the crest in the centre of the current badge - the tree rose and waves. The bits I find off putting are the scarf, halo and football. I know that these are the parts that try to incorporate the fans, and the history, but they just feel, well, cheesy, and rather tacky IMO. Looking at the Premier logos, only Stoke, Reading, Fulham, and possibly West Brom and Norwich have equally bad designs. I'm sure that a crest revamp will be somewhere on Cortese's to do list. It certainly isn't a priority, but IMO it is a necessary step if his ambition is to be fulfilled. I don't see this as being a priority, and wouldn't want to see us wasting money on the redesign (especially if we ended up with something as shocking at the 2012 Olympics crest), but I still feel that we should update our image a tad - a fresh, ambitious club, not a Blue Peter competition runner up. Exactly my thoughts. The scarf, football and halo are distinctly Mickey Mouse and look amateurish, which is only to be expected when it was designed in a competition. Although I've also grown fond of it, I'm also a little embarassed by it and it's long overdue that we redesigned it to reflect the professional outfit that we now are. My only concern would be for all those who have it tattooed onto various visible parts of their anatomy, but a badge change will provide additional work for the local tattooists, so not all bad news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 12 April, 2013 Share Posted 12 April, 2013 I like it. The silver looks more "cutting edge" for the front of the programme etc and the original is spot on for the club's heritage. It is recognisable and, frankly, looks better then most! If it's not broke ... The original could be done in silver... But don't forget these... We could get something more like... or Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 12 April, 2013 Share Posted 12 April, 2013 The original could be done in silver... But don't forget these... We could get something more like... or Not really a fan of any of those but the silver one isnt too bad. If it happens it happens but I just dont see any reason for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty's Caddy Posted 12 April, 2013 Share Posted 12 April, 2013 Leave the fookin badge alone you bunch of fookwits. Just enjoy the football while its good and stop trying to meddle! Fookin do gooders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 12 April, 2013 Share Posted 12 April, 2013 I think we should play upon the halo a lot more, it's a unique iconography in English football (to my recollection). If we were going to get rid of the current badge - which I like - something striped with a the tree, water and the halo would be fine. Like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterside.saint Posted 12 April, 2013 Share Posted 12 April, 2013 Like this? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanW Posted 12 April, 2013 Share Posted 12 April, 2013 I would love it if the guy who runs the blog in the original post could redesign our badge. I think he's got an excellent eye for modern design and I've always thought our own logo was rather elementary and feels like design from the 1970s. I support this plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 12 April, 2013 Share Posted 12 April, 2013 I was browsing these redesigned football club badges and it got me thinking about how long before the club 're brands' our club badge. http://www.lovefootballhatefootball.com/ Our crest is a relic from the 70s and has been meddled with countless times. I don't like change but it is time to evolve this aspect of the club. Just leave it alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 12 April, 2013 Share Posted 12 April, 2013 Please no. Got the badge on my leg just under a year ago, will be f*cking livid if it's changed. Oh pal. Bet that looks class as well. I'm another hoping it won't change as have it on my left buttock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 12 April, 2013 Share Posted 12 April, 2013 Not really a fan of any of those but the silver one isnt too bad. If it happens it happens but I just dont see any reason for it. Me neither...tho' I don't mind the original Southampton crest (although it never actually appeared on a Saints shirt) Leave the fookin badge alone you bunch of fookwits. Just enjoy the football while its good and stop trying to meddle! Fookin do gooders. And........relax........I'd guess none of this is really gonna influence matters. Like this? Looks effective...like a glance down Southampton Water while portsea island gets nuked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 12 April, 2013 Share Posted 12 April, 2013 Like this? Could call ourselves Southampton Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 12 April, 2013 Share Posted 12 April, 2013 Granted the article is a few years out of date but its weird how many clubs have changed their crest in recent years. http://www.logoguru.co.uk/blog/history-epl-club-logos/ Interesting read. I can't believe some of the shockers from the 70's. What was going on with Burnley in 1969 and 1975? or the Birmingham 70's one, yikes! My favourites from that lot are probably Villa and Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 12 April, 2013 Share Posted 12 April, 2013 Could call ourselves Southampton Forest. A new forest, as it were.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 12 April, 2013 Share Posted 12 April, 2013 http://soccerlens.com/premier-league-crests-redesigned/104886/ These are more like it. Gotta love Norwich Anonymous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 13 April, 2013 Share Posted 13 April, 2013 I notice on the Eterna watch website ( sponsors ) they are using the silver crest, which suggests that could be the new one from next season, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 13 April, 2013 Share Posted 13 April, 2013 http://soccerlens.com/premier-league-crests-redesigned/104886/ These are more like it. Gotta love Norwich Anonymous. LOL. Thanks for that link, all very funny ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 April, 2013 Share Posted 13 April, 2013 The badge is unique, immediately identifiable and by the fans for the club. Leave it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studentsaint Posted 13 April, 2013 Share Posted 13 April, 2013 Dont be surprised if saints have no home friendlies this summer. The pitch will be torn up and under soil heating is to be installed. They aren't sure if the pitch will be ready in time for friendlies therefore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 13 April, 2013 Share Posted 13 April, 2013 Dont be surprised if saints have no home friendlies this summer. The pitch will be torn up and under soil heating is to be installed. They aren't sure if the pitch will be ready in time for friendlies therefore. Undersoil heating is already installed. It has been since St. Mary's was built; its just never been turned on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 April, 2013 Share Posted 13 April, 2013 Dont be surprised if saints have no home friendlies this summer. The pitch will be torn up and under soil heating is to be installed. They aren't sure if the pitch will be ready in time for friendlies therefore. The pitch is turfed up most pre-seasons, they still manage to have it sorted for friendlies though. The under-soil heating is physically in place, the connectivity isn't though. And it won't require the pitch to be dug up to have that put on. For a club like us, home friendlies during pre-season are an important bit of income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 13 April, 2013 Share Posted 13 April, 2013 The new crest should be a top priority. It should include the following motifs: A central, allegorical narrative depicting a brace of Coteses Rampant, swords aloft, vanquishing a small but hateful army of Programme Sellers. Beneath this, a Leibherr earth mover is seen to be preparing a massive 98000 seat stadium site, flanked by heraldic trumpeter king prawns, these symbolising the burgeoning hospitality market and it's importance to the future of the club. Finally, the crest is complete being encircled by golden, European Flag style stars referencing the ambition and certainty of Champions League competition. Each star will, in turn, change from gold to platinum over the years to reflect our Champions League triumphs. This innovative aspect ensures the crest constantly evolves and is a fluid, living representation of the club, rather than the traditional fixed affair, mired in it's era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danner Posted 14 April, 2013 Share Posted 14 April, 2013 The badge is just fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 14 April, 2013 Share Posted 14 April, 2013 We could get something more like... or Something along these lines will happen sooner rather than later. If Cortese wants us in the higher echelons of the Premier League, he'll very likely want us to be easily marketable. The shield with the part halo is an easily protectable IP, (with or without text) which is cheap to reproduce on merchandise and'll be more easily taken on board by a worldwide audience. I wouldnt be surprised to see 'Saints' officially incorporated into our name either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 April, 2013 Share Posted 14 April, 2013 I notice on the Eterna watch website ( sponsors ) they are using the silver crest, which suggests that could be the new one from next season, It's just a more corporate type styling of the logo, also being used all along the Itchen above the executive boxes on a black background, it probably has nothing to do with changing the badge - why would they keep the shape but remove all of the information like team name and so on ? How many other clubs have a monochrome nebulus shield-shaped blob as their club crest ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 April, 2013 Share Posted 14 April, 2013 Like this? "Rubbish design from the 1970s" replaced by rubbish design from the 1970s ? Probably not. But actually, yes, that was exactly what I was picturing, which is why I was hoping someone would produce something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 April, 2013 Share Posted 14 April, 2013 Granted the article is a few years out of date but its weird how many clubs have changed their crest in recent years. http://www.logoguru.co.uk/blog/history-epl-club-logos/ It's not just a little out of date, it's also missing a few notable crests - Chelsea had a plain CFC in the 70s, the current lion without any kind of circular surround in the mid 80s, and a different circular badge design prior to the current one which has also been amended since 2005 to add more balls/flowers to represent their titles. Could be better designed as well, the re-use of the Burnley crest from the 60s is barely a footnote and they've been using it for the past 3-4 seasons. Good site though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 14 April, 2013 Share Posted 14 April, 2013 The9 is the mlg of kits and crests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 April, 2013 Share Posted 14 April, 2013 The9 is the mlg of kits and crests. He wishes he had my experience and knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 May, 2013 Share Posted 25 May, 2013 The evolution of Everton crests from 1878 to 2013. The current crest has only been in existence since 2000. New crest unveiled for next season onwards... http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2013/05/25/evolution-of-the-everton-crest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 25 May, 2013 Share Posted 25 May, 2013 Fxxk tradition. Let's get 21st century and stop living in the flaming 19th century, the past is never as good as people make it out to be. I surprised most of you use computers seeing as we never had them in our houses in the 70s - it's outrageous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 25 May, 2013 Share Posted 25 May, 2013 Fxxk tradition. Let's get 21st century and stop living in the flaming 19th century, the past is never as good as people make it out to be. I surprised most of you use computers seeing as we never had them in our houses in the 70s - it's outrageous. Yep. Adopting a 1980s style Liverpool kit is definitely getting into the 21st century. Good point Dave-o. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 25 May, 2013 Share Posted 25 May, 2013 Fxxk tradition. Let's get 21st century and stop living in the flaming 19th century, the past is never as good as people make it out to be. I surprised most of you use computers seeing as we never had them in our houses in the 70s - it's outrageous. Tell you what, you're so right. Our current red kit is, like, sooo futuristic and cutting edge. Its up there with the Minidisc and Reebok Pumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 25 May, 2013 Share Posted 25 May, 2013 Stripes AND the same badge please... it's just Saintly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 25 May, 2013 Share Posted 25 May, 2013 Nothing wrong with either of these... isnt that right Matt?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horton Heath Saint Posted 25 May, 2013 Share Posted 25 May, 2013 I think the crest was designed about forty years ago when the Club asked fans to enter a competition to design the new crest. It needs updating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brussels Saint Posted 25 May, 2013 Share Posted 25 May, 2013 My guess is that its already been done. The gold one we have seen on the last club statement. I wonder if it may make an appearance on our new shirt next year. Could not care either way personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints boy in Leeds Posted 25 May, 2013 Share Posted 25 May, 2013 Yeah I agree, red and white striped shirts and black shorts for me !! Keep the crest, red & white stripes, black shorts and white sock for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 May, 2013 Share Posted 25 May, 2013 I've always thought the badge poor and I still do. That said, the idea of marketing people designing the badge makes me shudder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 25 May, 2013 Share Posted 25 May, 2013 I've always thought the badge poor and I still do. That said, the idea of marketing people designing the badge makes me shudder. Agree with this. The original question however is impossible to answer, as for me, it depends on what is proposed as the altewrnative. Gecko, and a couple of others, gave us some excellent potential alternatives when this question made its annual appearance a year or so ago, but as VFTP points out, if marketing types are given a free run at it then the level of sh!t they might create, knows no bounds. Finally, can Cortese be trusted to change it to something that represents SFC and captures the spirit - and tradition - of Saints ? Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 25 May, 2013 Share Posted 25 May, 2013 I've always thought the badge poor and I still do. That said, the idea of marketing people designing the badge makes me shudder. I really don't like our badge. Letting the marketing guys have a go at it would be a small price to pay... I'd fancy they'd do something half-decent, tbf... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 25 May, 2013 Share Posted 25 May, 2013 On the subject of the old badge, who is the best person at the club to contact about getting a look at some of the old material about it. Reason I ask is that my dad (Rolland Parris) designed the badge and although he made a b&w copy of the original artwork he sent in, it would be good to see the original (if its not been lost). A while back I did scan in some of the copies of the stuff my dad does have like his original drafts - could put them up here if anyone is interested. I did try and contact the club a few years back and also the Echo who ran the competition but didn't hear anything back from either of them. Blimey, all those Sunday morning games Matt, and I didn't even know a celebrity was watching us. Hope your dad is well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 25 May, 2013 Share Posted 25 May, 2013 I quite like our badge. It easily identifies us and I don't think its too busy, as a lot of older logos are (particularly from the 70s the 80s). And like others I dread to think what utter abomination our current design team would come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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