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The Cat

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34 minutes ago, trousers said:

Loaning academy players out for "work experience". Not heard of that happening before. Is this a new initiative or have I just been blissfully ignorant over the years...? 

Have to say I haven't heard of it either but they all played today in a 3-0 win.

Good experience playing against men as they are all 16. 

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1 hour ago, trousers said:

Loaning academy players out for "work experience". Not heard of that happening before. Is this a new initiative or have I just been blissfully ignorant over the years...? 

 

1 hour ago, The Cat said:

Have to say I haven't heard of it either but they all played today in a 3-0 win.

Good experience playing against men as they are all 16. 

I don’t know when it started, but we certainly did it last season too.  I believe the lads train with Saints in the week and play with their loan teams at the weekends. 

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VectisSaint

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16 hours ago, spyinthesky said:

Wonder what's behind this.
Dont think he was getting a game at Port Vale which doesnt bode well

He was used as a striker in some games apparently and has been playing in our  team games recently. Considering the fuss when he joined us from Everton, things don't seem to have developed too well, though it is worth remembering that he is only just 18.

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VectisSaint

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1 hour ago, Saint Garrett said:

Maybe Jones wants to have a look at him, or maybe Larios's injury is worse than first thought? 

We can always loan him out again in January if stuff fixes itself. Clearly the club aren't thinking he's progressing as expected there.

I wouldn't have thought it was Jones related given he has been playing in our B team a couple of times while still on loan at Vale. Can we cancel Smallbone's loan at Stoke as well?

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22 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

 

Good lad. Nice show of faith from the club after he'd just suffered a serious knee injury with his contract almost up. We're pretty decent with that kind of thing.

Fingers crossed for a full recovery and pushing for a place in the team next season.

 

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the saint in winchester

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I know we have all - most of us, anyway - agreed that we are using too many young lads and need some experience to be added ....but I'm wondering if NJ will have the opportunity over the world cup period to check out the young forwards who are doing so well at that level. If we are playing any friendlies around here or even in Florida, it would be good to give them a chance to showcase their ability. I know January is coming and we are likely targeting new signings, but what if we have some rough diamonds in the U21 setup that could save us millions in signing fees and wages.

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19 minutes ago, the saint in winchester said:

I know we have all - most of us, anyway - agreed that we are using too many young lads and need some experience to be added ....but I'm wondering if NJ will have the opportunity over the world cup period to check out the young forwards who are doing so well at that level. If we are playing any friendlies around here or even in Florida, it would be good to give them a chance to showcase their ability. I know January is coming and we are likely targeting new signings, but what if we have some rough diamonds in the U21 setup that could save us millions in signing fees and wages.

We have 5 B Team games scheduled between now and the end of the WC, why not just watch them, especially if we use them to give our first team players a run out.

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34 minutes ago, VectisSaint said:

We have 5 B Team games scheduled between now and the end of the WC, why not just watch them, especially if we use them to give our first team players a run out.

I agree with him. It's obvious that he meant to see how they perform in something like a first team environment. We know how they perform for the B team, hence wanting to see how they get on in first team games when there's less on the line.

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VectisSaint

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16 hours ago, egg said:

I agree with him. It's obvious that he meant to see how they perform in something like a first team environment. We know how they perform for the B team, hence wanting to see how they get on in first team games when there's less on the line.

But if you play them in with first teamers (lets be clear here we could field our first team while still keeping to the rules) it will give a good idea of how they perform alongside the "established" players. The only down side is the quality of the opposition, we saw that against Boro, and most of the games coming up are PL Cup, which is against even lower quality opposition (e.g. Colchester). 

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3 minutes ago, VectisSaint said:

Jake Vokins back at Southampton, loan at Woking cancelled.

Not surprised. He spent most of his time on their bench. It's hard to see where his career will go now. He looked really promising as a youngster. 

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4 minutes ago, egg said:

Not surprised. He spent most of his time on their bench. It's hard to see where his career will go now. He looked really promising as a youngster. 

Was a weird move anyway. Held his own in the SPL last season, and then was loaned out to non league. Something's not right there.

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29 minutes ago, Chez said:

Jones just said, when asked about Ely's contract, that "he's been excellent for me and I hope he's at the football club for much longer". 

New contract coming...

He was the best Norwegian on the pitch on Tuesday!

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It was always assumed that Hasenhuttl was a genius at developing young players and getting the best from them although in retrospect there is little evidence of his success at doing so.

Ely always showed glimpses of talent but until recently never got the chance to settle in the team and prove his worth. Now he seems to improve with every game. He was always good off the ball and now his on the ball skills are beginning to have an impact on team performance. 

Although he had only a cameo role in the defeat of Man City, he seemed able to ghost past players in midfield to set up attacks with ease. There is more to this man than meets the eye and it may be that Jonesey (;-) ) might just have the knack of finding the switch that sets this guy free. I am not only not surprised that Ely might be offered a new contract but am personally delighted. 
 

 

 

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Over land and sea

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The Premier League has updated the squad lists for the rest of the season: https://www.premierleague.com/news/3044867

 

No surprises. We now have 10 home grown players in our 25 man squad.  The lists do confirm the departure of Jimmy Jay Morgan (although he is not listed under Chelsea).

25 Squad players (*Home grown)

  1. Abdul Karim, Mohamed Salisu

  2. Adams, Che Zach Everton Fred*

  3. Armstrong, Adam James*

  4. Armstrong, Stuart

  5. Ayodele-Aribo, Joseph

  6. Bednarek, Jan

  7. Bree, James Patrick*

  8. Caballero Lazcano, Wilfredo Daniel

  9. Ćaleta-Car, Duje

  10. Diallo, Ibrahima

  11. Djenepo, Moussa

  12. El Younossi, Mohamed

  13. Evangelista Silveira Neves Vojnovic, Lynaco

  14. Lancashire, Oliver*

  15. Maitland-Niles, Ainsley*

  16. McCarthy, Alex Simon*

  17. Onuachu, Ebere Paul

  18. Oršić, Mislav

  19. Perraud, Romain Paul Jean Michel

  20. Vokins, Jake*

  21. Walcott, Theo James*

  22. Walker-Peters, Kyle Leonardus*

  23. Ward-Prowse, James Michael Edward*

 

U21 players (Contracts and Scholars)

  1. Alcaraz Duran, Carlos Jonas

  2. Amo-Ameyaw, Samuel Christian Osaze K O

  3. Andrews, Joseph Daniel

  4. Armitage, Will

  5. Babic, Goran Gogo

  6. Bailey, Isaac Joseph

  7. Bailey, Samuel James

  8. Ballard, Dominic

  9. Bazunu, Gavin

  10. Bella-Kotchap, Armel

  11. Bellis, Samuel Lawrence Alexander

  12. Boot, Nathaniel Joshua Asiimwe

  13. Bragg, Cameron Roger

  14. Bycroft, Jack Thomas

  15. Carson, Matthew

  16. Charles, Brandon Davis

  17. Chauke, Kgaogelo

  18. Chavez-Munoz, Ryan Jorge

  19. Davis, Sonnie

  20. Dibling, Tyler-Jay

  21. Doyle, Kamari Olivier

  22. Edmondson, Tyler James

  23. Edozie, Samuel Ikechukwu

  24. Edwards, Milan Diamond Lazane

  25. Evans, Reggie James

  26. Finnigan, Ryan James

  27. Hall, Matthew

  28. Hartness, Ethan Andre Thomas

  29. Hewlett, Jeremiah James

  30. Higgs, Tommy Lee

  31. Jeffries, Josh David

  32. Larios Lopez, Juan

  33. Lavia, Romeo

  34. Lawrence, Nico

  35. Lett, Joshua Matthew

  36. Livramento, Valentino

  37. Mara, Sékou

  38. Meghoma Jayden Ade Trindade

  39. Merry, William George

  40. Mohamed, Adli Hatim Othman Husain Elkhidir

  41. Olaigbe, Kazeem Aderemi J.

  42. Otseh-Taiwo, Zuriel

  43. Pambou Makaya, Leon

  44. Payne, Lewis James

  45. Pearce, Luke Edward Andrew

  46. Prescott, Alfie Leo

  47. Ross-Lang, Fedel

  48. Simeu, Dynel Brown Kemgo

  49. Small, Thierry

  50. Squires, Joshua David

  51. Stepien Iwumene, Emeka Alex

  52. Stewart, Jak

  53. Sulemana, Kamaldeen

  54. Tizzard, Wiliam

  55. Turner, Jack

  56. Watts, Caleb Cassius

  57. Woods, Harvey James

  58. Wright, Oliver

  59. Wright, Rylee

We also have 5 over-21 players out on loan (not listed)

  1. Lis, Mateusz

  2. Nlundulu, Dan*

  3. Smallbone, William Anthony Patrick*

  4. Stephens, Jack*

  5. Tella, Nathan*


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1 hour ago, Over land and sea said:

The Premier League has updated the squad lists for the rest of the season: https://www.premierleague.com/news/3044867

 

No surprises. We now have 10 home grown players in our 25 man squad.  The lists do confirm the departure of Jimmy Jay Morgan (although he is not listed under Chelsea).

25 Squad players (*Home grown)

 

  1. Abdul Karim, Mohamed Salisu

     

  2. Adams, Che Zach Everton Fred*

     

  3. Armstrong, Adam James*

     

  4. Armstrong, Stuart

     

  5. Ayodele-Aribo, Joseph

     

  6. Bednarek, Jan

     

  7. Bree, James Patrick*

     

  8. Caballero Lazcano, Wilfredo Daniel

     

  9. Ćaleta-Car, Duje

     

  10. Diallo, Ibrahima

     

  11. Djenepo, Moussa

     

  12. El Younossi, Mohamed

     

  13. Evangelista Silveira Neves Vojnovic, Lynaco

     

  14. Lancashire, Oliver*

     

  15. Maitland-Niles, Ainsley*

     

  16. McCarthy, Alex Simon*

     

  17. Onuachu, Ebere Paul

     

  18. Oršić, Mislav

     

  19. Perraud, Romain Paul Jean Michel

     

  20. Vokins, Jake*

     

  21. Walcott, Theo James*

     

  22. Walker-Peters, Kyle Leonardus*

     

  23. Ward-Prowse, James Michael Edward*

     

 

 

U21 players (Contracts and Scholars)

 

  1. Alcaraz Duran, Carlos Jonas

     

  2. Amo-Ameyaw, Samuel Christian Osaze K O

     

  3. Andrews, Joseph Daniel

     

  4. Armitage, Will

     

  5. Babic, Goran Gogo

     

  6. Bailey, Isaac Joseph

     

  7. Bailey, Samuel James

     

  8. Ballard, Dominic

     

  9. Bazunu, Gavin

     

  10. Bella-Kotchap, Armel

     

  11. Bellis, Samuel Lawrence Alexander

     

  12. Boot, Nathaniel Joshua Asiimwe

     

  13. Bragg, Cameron Roger

     

  14. Bycroft, Jack Thomas

     

  15. Carson, Matthew

     

  16. Charles, Brandon Davis

     

  17. Chauke, Kgaogelo

     

  18. Chavez-Munoz, Ryan Jorge

     

  19. Davis, Sonnie

     

  20. Dibling, Tyler-Jay

     

  21. Doyle, Kamari Olivier

     

  22. Edmondson, Tyler James

     

  23. Edozie, Samuel Ikechukwu

     

  24. Edwards, Milan Diamond Lazane

     

  25. Evans, Reggie James

     

  26. Finnigan, Ryan James

     

  27. Hall, Matthew

     

  28. Hartness, Ethan Andre Thomas

     

  29. Hewlett, Jeremiah James

     

  30. Higgs, Tommy Lee

     

  31. Jeffries, Josh David

     

  32. Larios Lopez, Juan

     

  33. Lavia, Romeo

     

  34. Lawrence, Nico

     

  35. Lett, Joshua Matthew

     

  36. Livramento, Valentino

     

  37. Mara, Sékou

     

  38. Meghoma Jayden Ade Trindade

     

  39. Merry, William George

     

  40. Mohamed, Adli Hatim Othman Husain Elkhidir

     

  41. Olaigbe, Kazeem Aderemi J.

     

  42. Otseh-Taiwo, Zuriel

     

  43. Pambou Makaya, Leon

     

  44. Payne, Lewis James

     

  45. Pearce, Luke Edward Andrew

     

  46. Prescott, Alfie Leo

     

  47. Ross-Lang, Fedel

     

  48. Simeu, Dynel Brown Kemgo

     

  49. Small, Thierry

     

  50. Squires, Joshua David

     

  51. Stepien Iwumene, Emeka Alex

     

  52. Stewart, Jak

     

  53. Sulemana, Kamaldeen

     

  54. Tizzard, Wiliam

     

  55. Turner, Jack

     

  56. Watts, Caleb Cassius

     

  57. Woods, Harvey James

     

  58. Wright, Oliver

     

  59. Wright, Rylee

     

We also have 5 over-21 players out on loan (not listed)

  1. Lis, Mateusz

     

  2. Nlundulu, Dan*

     

  3. Smallbone, William Anthony Patrick*

     

  4. Stephens, Jack*

     

  5. Tella, Nathan*

 

 

With 9? first team players in the u21 category, this means we now have 32 players in the first team squad, though that does include Lancashire and Vokins. Going to be quite a clear out in the Summer, whether we stay up or not, I would imagine. Pathway to the first team for our Academy players is currently blocked big time.

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Is there any possibility that the reason we keep playing the useless Janny B is because he has something weird in his contract like 'must play when fit' or is that always balls? I'm struggling to think of any possible reason why Selles likes him, and wonder if that was a condition of his recall from Villa. If he plays any more I think that a) we are definitely down and b) there is way too much control of players beyond the manager, which always means trouble

For me, we need to install Caleta Car in as the first name in the defence, alongside Bella-Kotchap, with Perraud and KWP. That's a decent defence. Build from that. Can't see any way we can avoid leaking goals like a sieve without it. Maybe even get Willy in in goal for a bit as Bazanu's confidence must be all over the place.

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