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What's he worth, £3-£5 million? Hero though he is, and will always be for Saints, for a 32 year old that's not bad business, and if we want to progress as a club, there's little room for sentiment.

 

That said I'm a big Lambert fan, and I hope he stays and can adapt. Mark Hughes became a midfielder at the tail end of his career - I still think Rickie can do the same, especially as he started out as a midfielder.

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I don't see any benefits for the club in selling rickie. The amount that we get for him will not be enough to get another striker who can fill his boots. And its not like our squad is currently overflowing with strikers. Unless we're talking about 8-10 million (which I highly doubt anyone would pay for someone his age) then there really is no point in selling.

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I agree, I guess the deciding factor may be whether or not MP is going to play him though. World Cup year and all that, would Rickie want to be a bit-part, impact sub this year and would we (if MP is thinking along these lines) feel that we owed it to SRL to allow him to go somewhere where he is going to get game time in what is the most important year of his career? To let him go in those circumstance would (in my opinion) be the right thing to do morally.

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Building a team around Osvaldo as our long term strategy. Sensible perhaps.

 

Selling the only other viable leading man (and a bloody good one at that) who had signed a long term contract and had pledged to finished his career with us... which would also leave us highly vulnerable should Osvaldo get injured. Totally irresponsible.

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I agree again with Colin and Adrian, BUT IF it is true, do we owe Rickie the chance to play/start 1st team football given it's his only chance of playing in a World Cup or does the need of the club come before doing the right thing by a club legend? Just wondering?

 

We have no obligation to any player to play them. Their form must justify their selection. Rickie's form is not his best right now and he will have to work to maintain his place in the side and get back to the level we know he is capable of.

 

There is no point playing someone out of form in the hope they get into an international squad. The selectors will see they are not at their best, not pick him anyway (we are not a team right at the top of the league, as we saw it took a LOT for him to get called up in the first place) and our form would suffer.

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IMO the key to his future at Saints is how prepared he would be not to play every game.

 

If he is happy to have his playing time slightly reduced but remain a hero at the club then great.

 

If he wants a guarenteed place every single week then he might not get that at Saints going forward.

 

He isn't suddenly going to be surplus to our needs but there arent many players anywhere that play all the time.

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It would make me, my son, my daughter and my girlfriend very sad. We love Rickie. He is a good bloke, family man, great footballer, role model and club icon.

 

We need Rickie more than we need £3-5m plus his wages. He has more than paid his wages plus in the positive publicity that our club has received as a consequence of him being our player in the last few years alone. The value of brand "Southampton" is massively enhanced internationally by him being picked and playing Centre-forward for England. I hope that NC recognizes that and that it will trump "tactical" reasons, especially when he scores versus Palace! As he gets older it will be tougher for him to keep his place that's true but there's a lot of mileage and goals in his legs yet imo.

Keep Rickie Saintly!

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It's the not the first time we were willing to sell so this wouldn't surprise me. Although I'm sure I'll be told in wrong on that and such a claim is outrageous without any proof.

 

Two things here though, firstly he's recently signed a new contract and any club wanting him will have to pay him a similar amount and secondly as much as we love him what clubs are there who would be willing to pay the salary and transfer fee and give him the contract he'd want for a player in his 30s? It'll be a lower table club if any. As good as Rickie is and as much as I love him I can't think there will be many takers that can offer him first team football and the afford him. Perhaps west ham and maybe Sunderland.

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From the club's point of view, who could replace him for £3-5 million? Might as well keep him.

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It's not about that though is it. It'll be about maximising the return on him, if we sold him now for £4m then I'm sure Cortese would think its excellent business.

 

Cue lots of wailing that if Andy Carroll is worth £15m Rickie is worth £5 billion•.

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It's not about that though is it. It'll be about maximising the return on him, if we sold him now for £4m then I'm sure Cortese would think its excellent business.

 

Cue lots of wailing that if Andy Carroll is worth £15m Rickie is worth £5 billion•.

 

Maybe, but we're only an injury or two away from being short of goalscorers.

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It's the not the first time we were willing to sell so this wouldn't surprise me. Although I'm sure I'll be told in wrong on that and such a claim is outrageous without any proof.

 

Two things here though, firstly he's recently signed a new contract and any club wanting him will have to pay him a similar amount and secondly as much as we love him what clubs are there who would be willing to pay the salary and transfer fee and give him the contract he'd want for a player in his 30s? It'll be a lower table club if any. As good as Rickie is and as much as I love him I can't think there will be many takers that can offer him first team football and the afford him. Perhaps west ham and maybe Sunderland.

 

I agree with your reasoning but the most pertinent bit of of this is that 'such a claim is ...without any proof' and should be seen as such.

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We have had problems with Wayne Veysey in the past. e.g. Back in Jan he wrote this article http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3774/the-sweeper/2013/01/26/3700982/the-sweeper-shaw-agreed-new-southampton-deal-because-of?source=breakingnews&ICID=HP_HL_7

The Sweeper has learned that Luke Shaw would not have committed to a new contract earlier this month had he any inclination that Southampton were preparing to dismiss the man
Sources have said that Shaw had only agreed to the deal after being given assurances by senior club officials about the future of Adkins
He is the guy who wrote KP autobiography.
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Unless we have somebody else lined up to replace him this would be very foolish. Building the attack around Osvaldo is fine, but the other attackers ( J-Rod, Gaston, Lallana, etc ) need to contribute their share of goals, and who would step in if Dani were suspended / injured ?

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Can't see it happening? Who would realistically pay decent money for him? Can't think of anywhere that would be realisitic and appealing for him.

 

Agree with this. He still has a high value to us, so it would take a decent fee to get him, decent wages too. I'm not sure that would be value for the club he moved to, as they can't be sure how long he can perform at this level and he might take a while to settle at another club, it's not certain he'd do for them what he's consistently done for us. He'd be an expensive risk for another club.

 

I don't think he'd like to have to start proving himself all over again at another club at this stage in his career either. I don't imagine he's under any illusion that he'll be first choice in the PL until the day he retires, but I am sure he'll work hard and will have value to us for some time yet, even if that is going to be increasingly from the bench.

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http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2013/09/26/4288616/-

 

Who are these people and how the hell would they know something that larger and better connected media outlets don't? Personally (Big If) if it should turn out to be true I'm not sure it would be the end of the world.

 

I've been saying we're going to sell him since we got promoted from the Championship, I'll probably be right eventually, though we do have a bit of a habit of paying people not to play under the current regime...

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There's no sentiment in football and Ricky is no different to any other player despite what the fans may think.

 

That said I can't see the point of selling Ricky for what IMO would be a lesser value than he is worth to the club. I think he could do a Sherringham job for the team for a couple of years yet but it's Poch's call in the end.

 

When the day comes I'll be sorry to see him go, he's been absolutely immense for this club.

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He'll finish his career here IMO.

 

Or.....

 

He might fancy one last move with a chunky signing on fee. He'll get a far bigger pile of bunce signing to another Prem team then he ever will have in previous transfers. Wouldn't begrudge him that in the slightest.

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The journalist of that article has written a number of nonsensical, negative Saints articles since the Liebherr takeover that haven't come true.

 

Here is another one...

 

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2897/championship/2012/03/29/2999081/mystery-consortium-in-talks-to-buy-southampton-for-25m

 

Wayne Veysey of goal.com is the boy who cried wolf and Pochettino in his pre-match press conference just laughed off the suggestion the club is looking to sell Lambert.

 

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We have 15 league games before the window is open, why would we even be thinking of selling Lambert at this time. Any fee received is small beer compared with his worth. In any case the Bale money gives us a freebie in Lambert's case, we can afford to keep him. Osvaldo could get injured any time and as long as Lambert is fit we would still have good options. The game changer would be if further top class strikers were brought in in January. My view, whatever happens don't let him go this season.

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Whilst I don't want him to go I really wouldn't be shocked if he was sold.

 

just about sums up my feelings. If Rickie spends two months on the bench and has only scored 2 goals by Christmas...then maybe some people might be inclined to consider the idea ....

 

However, I don't expect either of those eventualities to come to pass and with a couple more England games under his belt....and a goal or two..and a prospective trip to Brazil..the question may never arise.

 

When / If Osvaldo starts his whirlwind goalscoring campaign, he's still going to need another striker to back him up /cover for injury etc, ...and there's very little sign of that at present.

 

If we put 5 past Palace on Saturday, we'll see who gets on the scoresheet...(most likely both the centre-backs again ) :lol:

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Firstly I love Lambert.

 

But....there i no room for sentiment if you are looking to continue progression.

 

NC has not steered us wrong so far and I am inclined to trust the judgement of NC, MP and the rest of the committee. IF....and its a big if it is time to let Lambert go then he goes. Players will come and go and that is just something that we all have to get to used to. I think age does come in to it and if Lambert is seemed to be struggling for pace etc and therefore attacks breakdown because of it then you have to change things.

 

Harsh as it may sound and as I mentioned at the beginning I love Lambert and what he has been instrumental in what has been an incredible four years would love to see him retire from here. Football is ruthless and sometime hard decisions have to be made.

 

Well after writing all that I see the Simon Peach basically said that he is going nowhere.

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