Matthew Le God Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 (edited) I have been saying as much for weeks now. We are sleepwalking to relegation. I hope for your own sake this is a pathetic windup because if you genuinely believe we will be relegated or require 45 points like eelpie said then you need help. The bottom three teams after 22 games have 18 points each, yet you think in the remaining 16 games they (and all the other teams below us) will get upto 44 points? Early 30's will be be enough to stay up this year, and with 16 games to go we already have 31 points. I'm confident we will finish 9th at worst and 8th at best, 9th looking the more likely. Edited 23 January, 2014 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 You are advocating capital punishment for Suarez? Suarez hasn't attacked his team mate(s) 3x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 Ba? Just what we need, another black sheep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 Apparently off the pitch he is a really nice, softly spoken, polite guy. Something seems to happen to him when he puts his boots on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 Just what we need, another black sheep Racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 Transfer listed ? http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/southampton-transfer-list-dani-osvaldo-after-3055504 I think most of us would like to offload Osvaldo now he is clearly not committed to the club. I love how the Mirror have to make it worse than it is by $hit stirring with this comment "Young left-back Luke Shaw has told team-mates he could yet go, with Chelsea waiting in the wings." Almost like they are willing our clubs demise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/10960112.Saints_players_back_club_s_Osvaldo_stance/?ref=var_0 Echo thinks Sevilla are also interested in Osvaldo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAS Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 Does anyone know why he gave Fonte a smack. (Apologies if this has already been stated etc but can't read 10 pages) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 Does anyone know why he gave Fonte a smack. (Apologies if this has already been stated etc but can't read 10 pages) Tackle in training he perceived to be a bit rough seems to be the prevalent rumour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matthew Le God Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 you know he enjoys this right? I think there maybe a chance he genuinely believes the crap he spouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAS Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 He seems to have a penchant for butting players and managers. Turns a posiible saints favourite into a muppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 Backed him since day 1. He can f*ck off. Would take 7 million Yep. Think he is a quality, quality player. And really could have done something for us. Was so excited when he signed. Was a little concerned that he hadn't fitted in as quickly as he should......you expect a fully grown, experienced guy to adapt to the PL quicker. Up to now I haven't minded his temperament/aggression: can't hurt to ave a 'handy lad' on the pitch. But now....no. Time to cut loose. Swap deal or loan with a sell after the World Cup. Wonder how long he'll remain our record signing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambol2K9 Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Backed him since day 1. He can f*ck off. Would take 7 million This sadly. Lad needs to disappear and sort his head out, No use to us or anyone else right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 £14,000,000 to buy him £12,480,000 in basic wage £4,000,000 in potential bonuses Total £30,480,000 ****, he is on about 520k a week?! No wonder he signed...I wouldnt mind that weekly salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Jose stepped down a league to sign for us, was clearly a class above the standard we were at and has been with us all the way on this great journey. Never once has the bloke ever acted big time and has been professional and classy every step of the way. For some big time Charlie to come along and do that to him, makes my blood boil. I just wish that KL had the money and the will to tell him to **** off, sack him and sue him for the transfer money like Chelsea did to mutu. It'll be a sad day if that twt wears a saints shirt again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 I'd like to see a video of John Hartson booting Eyal Berkovic in the face on this thread somewhere really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 I'd like to see a video of John Hartson booting Eyal Berkovic in the face on this thread somewhere really. Top quality video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 I'd like to see a video of John Hartson booting Eyal Berkovic in the face on this thread somewhere really. Ta dah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 It'll be a sad day if that twt wears a saints shirt again. Reports are that he has been transfer listed (all damn quick if you ask me) so would be surprised if we see him again. After the goal vs ManC, I got a little bit excited for a few minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 If he is listed...we won't get our dosh back on what we paid for him thats fo' sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Just what we need, another black sheep I needed that laugh...thanks sussex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Racist. apparently I am not allowed to respond to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Great post. I have been saying as much for weeks now. We are sleepwalking to relegation. Put your money where your mouth is. £10 from me for each team below us that finishes above us at the end of the season. £10 from you for each team that doesn't. (This is a great one to bring up each time that Dalek pops up on a thread - he of course never responds to the challenge and disappears. Pretty much confirmed WUM rather than genuine pessimist) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 If we have transfer listed him this better bloody mean we will be looking for another striker as Ricky looks fecked. This is all going a bit t*ts up this week, next up is losing to yeovil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/10960112.Saints_players_back_club_s_Osvaldo_stance/?ref=var_0 Echo thinks Sevilla are also interested in Osvaldo West Ham are also after a striker, we could con them out of a sh1t load of dosh!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_saints Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 To a point it is down to Osvaldo. If he mans up, apologises to Fonte and shows contrition I am sure the boys will give him a chance. if he acts like a sulky ****** he'll be off quick smart. this. I'm not supporting him or saying his actions were right in any way. but some people have very little self control and this may have been a heat of the moment thing. like many have said he has been missing games and his time here has been stop start without being able to get a run of games therefore he was particularly sensitive to any rough challenges that may injure him when he's so close to getting a start again. it really is up to him if he can see the wrong in what he did, apologize to fonte and the rest of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 What an absolute moron. Yes, training ground bust ups happen, but a headbutt followed by punches is way over the top, what the **** was he thinking? There's something seriously wrong with the guy. After reading comments from THEVMAN and Simon Peach's tweets, I don't see how he can possibly play for us again. I certainly wouldn't want him to. Someone mentioned that it might be an event that brings the rest of the team closer - maybe. I get the feeling they're a fairly tightly knit group anyway, but it was nice to see Shaw's tweets. It'll be interesting to see what the club do with regards to this before the end of the window. Oh, and we're not sleepwalking to relegation. Buy a ****ing SAD light or something, Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 You are advocating capital punishment for Suarez? I'm up for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Poor fellow clearly needs counselling and anger management classes. And a shave and haircut. And a spell in the Army wouldn't go amiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Very much a minority opinion on here I suspect, but if you watch Osvaldo closely the astute fan can begin to see he's probably the most naturally talented striker we have at this club. On the ball he's a class act, even if he's not proved that yet with a decent goal return for this club. I think given sufficient time to adapt to the demands of the English game, given a bit more luck re injury's, above all given some degree of emotional self control this player could be as big a success here one day as he was abroad. But I see rather a lot of 'maybes' in there frankly. Looking back we were warned before he came that this player is trouble and those warnings have proved to be all too insightful I'm afraid. I personally wouldn't go so far as to say there's no way back for Dani Osvaldo from this situation - John Hartson actually kicked a teammate in the head remember - but the temptation to just cut our losses and ship him out ASAP must be a strong one. Osvaldo and Ramirez - easily the two most expensive signings in this clubs long history and the pair of them major disappointments if truth be told. With money likely to become not quite so freely available in the future, surely we just can't afford to repeat mistakes like this again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 We should get rid of him as soon as possible. Whereas it is possible that he could yet come good as a striker if given the opportunity, there remains the likelihood also that the next incident like this will result in him losing it on the pitch and being banned for several matches at a crucial point in the season. And that is without factoring in the affect that this incident will have had on team morale. Up to now, the impression is that the team are a tight knit bunch who get on well together and play for each other. Oswaldo could upset that and it isn't worth risking. If he was a brilliant striker knocking in the goals for us, then he could be accorded some lattitude. But so far he isn't. He is obviously a good player, but not for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Well. It looks like the club want to ship Dani out as fast as they can. Which I guess means re-opening those bids from Inter for a loan deal and adding with the option to buy at the end of the season. THEN we will see the future commitment of the new Leadership team. One goes out then one SHOULD come in. Anything less will mean EITHER 1) Sam Gallagher is ready for 1st team football / Guly really is the answer OR 2) Saint Richmond is right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Well. It looks like the club want to ship Dani out as fast as they can. Which I guess means re-opening those bids from Inter for a loan deal and adding with the option to buy at the end of the season. THEN we will see the future commitment of the new Leadership team. One goes out then one SHOULD come in. Anything less will mean EITHER 1) Sam Gallagher is ready for 1st team football / Guly really is the answer OR 2) Saint Richmond is right You talking about one coming in now or in January? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Well. It looks like the club want to ship Dani out as fast as they can. Which I guess means re-opening those bids from Inter for a loan deal and adding with the option to buy at the end of the season. THEN we will see the future commitment of the new Leadership team. One goes out then one SHOULD come in. Anything less will mean EITHER 1) Sam Gallagher is ready for 1st team football / Guly really is the answer OR 2) Saint Richmond is right You talking about one coming in now or in January? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 You talking about one coming in now or in January? I'm IMHO not talking IF we ship Dani out before the end of the window THEN "Statement of Intent" wise we SHOULD bring in a replacement in the same window. OR the "Statement of INtent will be that Gallagher/Guly are better (in emergency/injury to JRod/SRL) better than anything we could bring in now. Personally? I don't think our lads are the answer (yet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Saint Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 To be honest, not sure I should get involved in this thread with the amount of emotional output that had been produced by other posters, but I might as well... Everyone knew Osvaldo had some incidents of misconduct before he came to the club, but he has also repeatedly stated that he has enjoyed his best football under Pochettino. I think it was a bet on the part of Cortese and MoPo - buy a quality striker under the going rate, because of his history of creating trouble on and off the field and hope that you can control his dark side thanks to the positive relationship you have with him. Like every bet, there is a risk it might backfire and right now it seems it did. But I wouldn't jump to hard conclusions so fast. It is beyond me how you can make a final conclusion on a player who hasn't even played one full season at a club. The two incidents of misconduct (Newcastle and the one with Fonte) are worrying, but I think there is way back from the current situation. I hope Osvaldo gets back on track and stays at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Yep. Think he is a quality, quality player. And really could have done something for us. Was so excited when he signed. Was a little concerned that he hadn't fitted in as quickly as he should......you expect a fully grown, experienced guy to adapt to the PL quicker. Up to now I haven't minded his temperament/aggression: can't hurt to ave a 'handy lad' on the pitch. But now....no. Time to cut loose. Swap deal or loan with a sell after the World Cup. Wonder how long he'll remain our record signing? This basically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 To be honest, not sure I should get involved in this thread with the amount of emotional output that had been produced by other posters, but I might as well... Everyone knew Osvaldo had some incidents of misconduct before he came to the club, but he has also repeatedly stated that he has enjoyed his best football under Pochettino. I think it was a bet on the part of Cortese and MoPo - buy a quality striker under the going rate, because of his history of creating trouble on and off the field and hope that you can control his dark side thanks to the positive relationship you have with him. Like every bet, there is a risk it might backfire and right now it seems it did. But I wouldn't jump to hard conclusions so fast. It is beyond me how you can make a final conclusion on a player who hasn't even played one full season at a club. The two incidents of misconduct (Newcastle and the one with Fonte) are worrying, but I think there is way back from the current situation. I hope Osvaldo gets back on track and stays at the club. Unfortunately, I reckon his conduct has been influenced by his desire to leave. I don't buy all the 'injuries' he's had either. He isn't committed, and as talented as he is I hope we replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 As some have said these things happen on training grounds . Dani has been very stupid . What we don't know is what had been said pirior to the build up of incident . I seem to recollect the MP said a player was having personal problems . I do wonder if he was referring to DO I would like to see the saints keep him and try and get him back on track . Somehow I feel what ever has happened this is unlikely and given the likes of nav man comments his position is now untenable . I'm not going to get in to the majority of this debate re DO. I have left that to the usual experts on this forum . Whatever happens I sincerely hope the team can move on and get the team spirit back together as soon as possible oh and a replacement for DO if he does leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 I'm IMHO not talking IF we ship Dani out before the end of the window THEN "Statement of Intent" wise we SHOULD bring in a replacement in the same window. OR the "Statement of INtent will be that Gallagher/Guly are better (in emergency/injury to JRod/SRL) better than anything we could bring in now. Personally? I don't think our lads are the answer (yet) Fair enough. But who can we get in as a "statement of intent" that will add to our squad without breaking the bank? Can't think of too many players that would fit such requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 (edited) Just what we need, another black sheep I chuckled...slightly guiltily Edited 24 January, 2014 by dronskisaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Read somewhere or other that Wolfsburg are lining up a £7m bid, as well as the usual Serie A bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Read somewhere or other that Wolfsburg are lining up a £7m bid, as well as the usual Serie A bits. Take it and run. Buy another Jay Rodriguez instead of expensive foreign signings - Ings or Rhodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Personally we knew what we were buying, so if he's contrite I'd much prefer to try to reintegrate him into the squad rather than take a huge loss selling/loaning him out and weakening our squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 If he is listed...we won't get our dosh back on what we paid for him thats fo' sure. I don't know. Loan him out now, and if he has a good World Cup we should be able to get a good price. Maybe not the full £15m considering his age but it depends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 Personally we knew what we were buying, so if he's contrite I'd much prefer to try to reintegrate him into the squad rather than take a huge loss selling/loaning him out and weakening our squad. I think that's down to the squad itself. If reports are correct and they want him out I think there will always be a seething undercurrent if there is an attempt to rehabilitate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 I don't know. Loan him out now, and if he has a good World Cup we should be able to get a good price. Maybe not the full £15m considering his age but it depends. I doubt we paid the full £15m upfront. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 24 January, 2014 Share Posted 24 January, 2014 I doubt we paid the full £15m upfront. True. How does it work if we haven't? There have been plenty of rumours that offering money up front is part of what's helped us secure these signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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