SNSUN Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 Last year I started this thread: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?45072-FA-Cup-or-4th-place#.VLVfuCcgGSM to gauge people's opinions on what they'd rather have, 4th or winning the cup. I had no idea we'd actually be in with a shot of top 4! Have your opinions differed now we have a real shot of a top 4 place? Or does the FA Cup mean more to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 FA Cup - both once in a generation events but there's no 4th place trophy (much to Arsene's chagrin).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 We had all this with the league cup. Same answers. Why do we have to choose. Both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 Nope. Fa cup every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 Ask me again in early March, and again in April... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 FA Cup - both once in a generation events but there's no 4th place trophy (much to Arsene's chagrin).... Both for me too. There may be no trophy for 4th but there is a crack at the Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 FA Cup. It's a trophy and we'd qualify for Europe. 4th place means a play off doesn't it? If so a good chance we could lose that and be straight out. I really want us to see us win a trophy other than the JPT and I really want to see us play in Europe again. An FA Cup win gives both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 FA Cup. It's a trophy and we'd qualify for Europe. 4th place means a play off doesn't it? If so a good chance we could lose that and be straight out. I really want us to see us win a trophy other than the JPT and I really want to see us play in Europe again. An FA Cup win gives both. Don't the losers of champions league play offs end up in the Europa league? Sure besiktas played arsenal this year and were playing spurs in Europe last month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 Don't the losers of champions league play offs end up in the Europa league? Sure besiktas played arsenal this year and were playing spurs in Europe last month? I don't know. I pay little attention to European football because we're not in it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 Last year I started this thread: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?45072-FA-Cup-or-4th-place#.VLVfuCcgGSM to gauge people's opinions on what they'd rather have, 4th or winning the cup. I had no idea we'd actually be in with a shot of top 4! Have your opinions differed now we have a real shot of a top 4 place? Or does the FA Cup mean more to you? How many threads of this can we start before tomorrow night... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 (edited) 4th place. Its much harder to finish top 4 than win a cup -and so a greater achievement in my eyes. Also probably why it's not going to happen. Edited 13 January, 2015 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 The win in 1976 lives in my mind strongr than our second place to Liverpool. If I could only choose one it would be the F A Cup but we should aim to do our best in both competitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 FA cup and 3rd place please. 4th place isn't really what we should be aiming for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 FA Cup all day long. For a club our size we haven't won enough trophies. The event and celebrations of winning a trophy will outstrip the slightly odd feeling of finishing fourth. Which in reality is initially just the opportunity to lose a play off against Besiktas or Sporting Lisbon. Would be a great achievement but still feels like an achievement defined by Sky Sports News rather than a tangible one. It's fourth place. Not even a medal placing, except in Judo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 Really hard to choose! FA cup for day out etc. 4th place is much harder, who outside the usual lot has broken into the top 4 in the past decade? Also, Europa league will kill us, couldn't bear it. Imagine a champ league tie again barca or real!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 The FA Cup and a grand day out at Wembley of course - it seems to me rather odd for a football fan to say anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 Once we get a trophy under our belt, and everyone has had their day out, I wonder how many would switch to a CL focus. i would love to see us win the FA CUp, but the thought that maybe, just maybe we could be playing at Barcelona, Madrid or Munich is pretty compelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 Don't get a trophy for coming 4th in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintadjg Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 Top 4 all day long.That would be a far greater achievement than winning the cup,even more so due to the activity in the summer. To break into the top 6 would be unbelievable let alone the top 4.I cant understand why anyone would not want to finish higher in the league than win a cup.Cups are a bonus and at the moment one we don't need.There would be far more focus and attention on us,we'd stand a better chance of keeping hold of our players ( we cant expect to rip the team apart every year like this one and keep getting away with it).The league is our bread and butter and should come before any cup competitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 (edited) 4th Place, on the basis that the extra profile and strength it brings to the club would make it more likely for us to win the cup in the future. A cup win would still mean far more personally, but the chance at 4th and what it could mean for Saints is too much to pass up on. A different take on my opinion last year. Edited 13 January, 2015 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 Come on some of you lot, you know "both" is not allowed. Normally I'd say Cup, but finishing 4th this year could be the difference between Morgan, Nathan, Toby and others signing a new contract or leaving. Not to mention the other talent we could attract. Possibly the start of something big. A once in a lifetime opportunity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 FA Cup win and fifth place, that would do this year, then we can push on next season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 Of course the 'both' party on here will recall that that lot down the road won the Cup and got into the CL a few years ago ... if memory serves the Cup proved to be a rather more enjoyable experience for them than (briefly) playing in the CL was. Just saying ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 The FA Cup and a grand day out at Wembley of course - it seems to me rather odd for a football fan to say anything else. Indeed! Playing the big teams in the Champions league would be incredible but really it's just an excuse to finish bottom of the group. We won't win it and I want to win something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 Both, "Saints double". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 (edited) Of course the 'both' party on here will recall that that lot down the road won the Cup and got into the CL a few years ago ... if memory serves the Cup proved to be a rather more enjoyable experience for them than (briefly) playing in the CL was. Just saying ... CL football? The skates highest league finish was 8th, pal. They'd be proud of your myth-making, though. Edited 13 January, 2015 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 FA Cup and into Europe will do nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 Of course the 'both' party on here will recall that that lot down the road won the Cup and got into the CL a few years ago ... if memory serves the Cup proved to be a rather more enjoyable experience for them than (briefly) playing in the CL was. Just saying ... Shurlock has already pointed out your obvious clanger but in fairness their Europa campaign was "enjoyable" in that they did get to play a big club or two. Not Fulham/Boro levels but nothing to regret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 CL football? The skates highest league finish was 8th, pal. They'd be proud of your myth-making, though. Yep, they won the FA Cup and got into Europe 6 years ago and were throwing away winning positions against the likes of AC Milan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 would you rather be deaf with no arms, or blind with no legs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulful Odin Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 Going to break the rules slightly and say 3rd place. It would be a once a generation thing to win the fa cup, equally to get the chance to see saints play in the Nou camp, Bernabeu or San siro would be once in a generation too. Ive seen us win a cup at wembley (Paintpot) but Ive never seen us play in the proper european cup (Bucharest doesnt count). We could never improve on the 76 story either so would forever be the lesser of the hypothetical two cup wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 FA Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 4th place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 Shurlock has already pointed out your obvious clanger but in fairness their Europa campaign was "enjoyable" in that they did get to play a big club or two. Not Fulham/Boro levels but nothing to regret. As I don't remember claiming that they ever finished 4th I'm not entirely clear what you are on about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 Both. They aren't mutually exclusive you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minime Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 Both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 Which ever meant we kept hold of the most players/manager, personally I'd like to win the FA cup for the day at Wembley but I could imagine 4th would be more likely to keep players here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 4th. This is what football has become now though, lets face it. The magic of the cup is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommi Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 4th place for me - it shows a sustained level of performance over an entire season. And would absolutely rock the footballing establishment in the UK! Whilst a cup win is very romantic, the under dogs do win it. A team/club such as Southampton does not achieve 4th place in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 You said: Of course the 'both' party on here will recall that that lot down the road won the Cup and got into the CL a few years ago ... if memory serves the Cup proved to be a rather more enjoyable experience for them than (briefly) playing in the CL was. Just saying ... Others are merely pointing out that The Skate filth never played in the CL (your words) but were only in the Europa League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 You said: Others are merely pointing out that The Skate filth never played in the CL (your words) but were only in the Europa League. Yes my mistake, the UEFA Cup not the Champions League. But the the wider point remains I think - dreams of Europe don't always prove to enjoyable as you might think they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintTex Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 I am going with 4th place. It might be my American perspective, but to me 4th place seems like a more impressive feat than winning the FA Cup! Trophy or not. Secondly, a 4th place finish also shows quality world class players that what we have accomplished is not a fluke and we are a team worthy to join. No one thought Hull was an upper echelon team because they played at Wimbley last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintAndy14 Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 Post above (SaintTex) makes good sense and hard to disagree. There's something about a cup run and reaching a final at Wembley, though, especially in the FA Cup. I'm going to sit on the fence for now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suomi Saint Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 FA Cup. 4th means absolutely nothing in terms of history making, especially if we get knocked out in the qualifying game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 3rd or 4th because there is now actually a fair chance. FA cup would mean more, don't get me wrong. But we are only in the 3rd round ffs so that is a long way off. We should focus on the greater probability at this point, we are unlikely to get a better shot of UCL for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 (edited) Fourth place, just like the players. Edited 13 January, 2015 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie66 Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 3rd place as there is no qualifying game and final. I am greedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 4th place. Champions League in Southampton would really cement the image of a club capable to challenge at the top, and could be the base for more success in coming seasons, e.g. an FA Cup win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JibMcdo Posted 13 January, 2015 Share Posted 13 January, 2015 FA Cup is played every year, we will have many more opportunities to win an FA Cup. We may never get another chance to play in the Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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