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http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/560548/Manchester-United-prepare-Nathaniel-Clyne-bid-Southampton

 

MANCHESTER UNITED are planning their summer swoop of Southampton defender Nathaniel Clyne after he refused to sign a new deal at St Mary's.

 

Published: 00:00, Thu, February 26, 2015By IZZY HORSEFIELD

 

Manchester United are preparing their bid for Nathaniel Clyne

 

United are hopeful they can prise the 23-year-old away from the south coast and will continue their pursuit once the transfer window re-opens in July.

 

Red Devils boss Louis van Gaal is a big admirer of the in-demand right-back and according to the Daily Mirror, Clyne is keen on the move to Old Trafford.

 

 

 

Clyne would link-up with former teammate and academy graduate Luke Shaw who made his move during Southampton's summer exodus last year.

 

While United paid a whopping £27million for Shaw, they expect to pay a lot less for Clyne considering his current deal at Saints expires in July 2016.

 

Clyne joined Southampton from Crystal Palace in 2012 on a four-year deal.

 

Not good news - he left Crystal Palace for free after running down his contract, I wouldn't be surprised if he did the same thing here. Sell him in the summer, and replace him with Byram.

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http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/560548/Manchester-United-prepare-Nathaniel-Clyne-bid-Southampton

 

 

 

Not good news - he left Crystal Palace for free after running down his contract, I wouldn't be surprised if he did the same thing here. Sell him in the summer, and replace him with Byram.

 

Byram isn't that good yet, and certainly not to a Prem level.

 

Trippier may be a better bet, or even ask for £10m plus Rafael. If anyone can get him defending better it'd be Koeman.

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Reading into Ralf Krueger's comments from his recent interview' date=' it sounds like Clyne wants more than we want / can afford to offer him.[/quote']

 

Unsurprising, Toby was on about 5.5 million € a year at Atletico, which would have put him on about 80K£ a week when he signed for us, assuming of course that he saw no reason to take a pay cut at that time. We therefore have established a precedent, we're willing to pay 80K a week at least, so when we have these young(ish) lads on 30K a week doing well and being noticed we need to expect to offer them at least as much as the highest paid player currently. IF we've not offered him 80-90K then he's going to look elsewhere.

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Shame, not least because it means he won't be 100% mentally focused on Saints during the run in. (human nature and all that)

 

Can't see it making much difference to be honest, even if he's off he needs to keep his level up to ensure interested parties remain so, especially if he's running down his contract, as his value then is only based on his performance level.

 

Anyone know where he gets his hair cut?

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Clyne's actions do not suit my feelings! I've got no problem with bros being contract rebel at dumb clubs like Palace or whatever, but it is massive disrespect to do it to us! He should sign new contract immediately, and then vociferously demand transfer in the summer, like Lallana and Schneiderlin done. Where is yo sense of honour, Clyne? :thumbdown:

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Clyne's management are no fools and they are playing the transfer game, RK & the board have been able to replace, and in most cases better, those who leave so lets not get this out of proportion.

As with most sides its the core of the squad we need to be looking at Gardos, Fonte, Wanyama and especially Schneiderlin are the ones to worry about, I wonder if Arsenal offer £100m for 3 of them would we take it?

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Clyne's management are no fools and they are playing the transfer game, RK & the board have been able to replace, and in most cases better, those who leave so lets not get this out of proportion.

As with most sides its the core of the squad we need to be looking at Gardos, Fonte, Wanyama and especially Schneiderlin are the ones to worry about, I wonder if Arsenal offer £100m for 3 of them would we take it?

 

 

Without stirring a hornets nest, it's debatable whether, in most cases, we've brought in better players. Clyne is a class act and far harder to replace than Lambert, Chambers and Lovren were last season.

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He was great at the beginning of the season, but recently seems distracted.

 

If players want to go, let them go, there is plenty of good underrated talent in Europe. Whilst it would be a shame, it's not the end of the world

 

But is the reason we will never be a CL side

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Clyne's management are no fools and they are playing the transfer game, RK & the board have been able to replace, and in most cases better, those who leave so lets not get this out of proportion.

As with most sides its the core of the squad we need to be looking at Gardos, Fonte, Wanyama and especially Schneiderlin are the ones to worry about, I wonder if Arsenal offer £100m for 3 of them would we take it?

 

 

er.....then someone might use the FFP rules to suggest we are earning " too much " ....:smug:

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Yeah, but that's the point, we won't get anywhere near to 30m for him because of that. 18m at best imo.

 

don't think Clyne ..or Man Utd would want to wait another season(with/without) a Euro. competition, clearly the MU squad needs " refreshing in defence " soon.

 

Playing in Europe might be seen as a bonus for us, but another season without Euro football at Old Trafford would start a meltdown there.

 

MU are still a long way behind Chelsea and Citeh (qualitywise), and are unlikley to be title candidates again in the short term.

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Can't see it making much difference to be honest, even if he's off he needs to keep his level up to ensure interested parties remain so, especially if he's running down his contract, as his value then is only based on his performance level.

 

Fair point, but he'll also be wary about the consequences of picking up a significant injury in the lead up to any impending deal so, subconsciously at least, he may think twice (more so than usual) about going in for a 50/50 tackle (for example). Fine margins and all that.

 

Probably over-analysis on my part but that hasn't stopped me thinking out loud on an internet football forum before ;)

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I just wish money was not a factor and we could insist on them seeing out their contracts.....and not let the players have everything their way all the time. "Sorry Nathaniel, we'd like you to stay and enjoy another 38 games (+ cups) for Southampton FC....and frankly don't care what you want."

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I just wish money was not a factor and we could insist on them seeing out their contracts.....and not let the players have everything their way all the time. "Sorry Nathaniel, we'd like you to stay and enjoy another 38 games (+ cups) for Southampton FC....and frankly don't care what you want."

 

Would he have signed for us in the first place if money wasn't a factor?

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It's a troublesome proposition really. Were currently directly in competition with a team that he is likely to want to move to next season. He might want to keep playing well to maintain his suitor's interest and might be thoroughly, but if he's fairly certain that the deal is on, even if only subconsciously he won't want to contribute to their missing out on the best league position they can get.

 

this kind of situation stinks. the last year and a half of a player's contract becomes tainted.

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Sounds about par for the course – England debut in autumn, leave the next summer.

 

This all day long. Rooney been chatting away no doubt in the same way Stevie G did for Liverpool last year.

Doesnt help that the England manager always talks about his players being at big clubs.

Everytime one of ours gets called up I cringe cos you just know what will happen....

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Another sh*t summer beckons.

 

No Toby

No Clyne

No Morgan

No J-rod return

 

Maybe we have gone off-the-boil in the last few weeks because our "superstars" are more focused on their big summer pay-days.

 

It's not fun but it is far better than the alternative - to have players no-one else wants and in all likelihood a worse team in a worse league position. This is almost best case scenario!

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Will happen each year. Will be Wanyama the year after as he won't extend his contract either.

 

Fine, just puts a lot of pressure on the recruitment success.

 

Is a slight shame though that despite how well we are doing we can't get our best players (the ones who have the choice to move to bigger clubs) to sign new contracts here.

 

In two summers we will have lost: Lambert, Lallana, Shaw, Lovren, Chambers, Clyne, Alderweireld, Schneiderlin and possibly Jay Rod.

 

Any club that keeps growing and improving despite that is a miracle worker IMO. Get a few of the signings wrong in key positions and it becomes dodgy.

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