Dig Dig Posted 9 June, 2016 Share Posted 9 June, 2016 What the bloke who destroyed Charlton??? The man's a clown etc. Was that before or after he wrote the FA handbook though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 June, 2016 Share Posted 9 June, 2016 Will they be hungry? And therefore guaranteed to improve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 June, 2016 Share Posted 9 June, 2016 Sounds like we're looking at someone who is relatively young for a manager, has a wealth European experience, is from abroad, most likely a European league, endorses a pressing / poch like management style and brings through / enjoys working with youth players. The fact that he is a mystery man means he's potentially our no. 1 target. Through a process of elimination its... Mystery Man vs Vitor Murat Yakin is that man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 9 June, 2016 Share Posted 9 June, 2016 Murat Yakin is that man. I recall pre RK, that he was on the list that people wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 9 June, 2016 Share Posted 9 June, 2016 I'll be like a dropped Cornetto on Bournemouth beach in August if be appoint Howe. Upside down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 June, 2016 Share Posted 9 June, 2016 I recall pre RK, that he was on the list that people wanted. I believe we wanted him too but went to Spartak Moscow. Out of work and would be a good fit. Other names not been monitoned but would be a good fit for us are Eduardo Berizzo although his comments on homosexuals will upset some on here Shame we missed out on lucien Favre just taken the Nice job would have been good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 Lucien Favre = the french Rod Liddle Murat Yakin = the swiss-turkish Richard Gere FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 How big of a draw is the Prem is a big question. Could we tempt a manager from a team in the Champions League? Probably not I'd guess. Someone like Rui Vitoria from Benfica could be a wild card option. Only 46, European experience etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 Thank f*ck Steve McClaren has been mentioned! Steve McClaren has been mentioned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 (edited) Surprised that so many don't rate Howe. Bit like signings where the continental mystique and hipster rating influences appeal - include myself being guilty of that. Saying need European experience - what exactly does that mean? Like when saying players stepping up to international level when regularly playing against Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea and then make mighty step up to play against Austria and Switzerland. Howe clearly would need to learn from say Koeman in to how to defeat the likes of Midtylland and that would take a few years. I don't actually want Howe but wouldn't be as upset as some if was appointed. Edited 10 June, 2016 by whelk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 Steve McClaren has been mentioned? He has the European experience that Eddie Howe lacks....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 Steve McClaren has been mentioned? By who? I honestly couldn't think of a worse appointment, the man has no gravitas and not made for management, And that hair island has no place in the modem game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans gruber Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 By who? I honestly couldn't think of a worse appointment, the man has no gravitas and not made for management, And that hair island has no place in the modem game alan curbishley 66/1 there you go, there is a worse appointment right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 alan curbishley 66/1 there you go, there is a worse appointment right there. Ok Barry from Eastenders. Worse than Curbishley and Mclarem. I want thinking straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 I expect Saints would of been impressed with the West Ham manager, he ticks all of our boxes. I suppose we need to search national managers that are doing well playing attractive pressing football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 By who? I honestly couldn't think of a worse appointment, the man has no gravitas and not made for management, And that hair island has no place in the modem game Joe Jordan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 John Carver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pengi Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 John Carver? What an excellent choice. He said he was the best coach in the league and then said he didn't regret saying it because he was the best golfer and the best cricketer in the world as well. We can't go wrong but with his ambition like that, expect Everton to lure him from us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 (edited) AVB taking a 6 month break: http://m.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/14547728.AVB_rules_out_Saints_move/?ref=rss Have to say there seems to be quite a few indicating they aren't interested. Very important appointment, hopefully the Koeman thing hasn't been too much of a suprise. Of the names KBilly mentioned one is going to PSG and Howe has seemingly made it clear he isn't interested. Echo again says Pereira has been linked without mentioning that it has only been by them! Wonder who fed them that? Edited 10 June, 2016 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 This has Vitor written all over it, unless the mystery man is a black box special like Poch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 This has Vitor written all over it, unless the mystery man is a black box special like Poch! Yes - although Vitor is fairly black-boxy in my book! I would be delighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 AVB taking a 6 month break: http://m.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/14547728.AVB_rules_out_Saints_move/?ref=rss Have to say there seems to be quite a few indicating they aren't interested. Very important appointment, hopefully the Koeman thing hasn't been too much of a suprise. Of the names KBilly mentioned one is going to PSG and Howe has seemingly made it clear he isn't interested. Echo again says Pereirs has been linked without mentioning that it has only been by them! Wonder who fed them that? Echo almost seem to be working to same list as K Billy (except Moyes), think Adam Leitch has similar sources! Vitor definitely getting a good airing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 Yes - although Vitor is fairly black-boxy in my book! I would be delighted. totally agree, hadn't heard of him before 2 days ago lol, Now I am excited by his cv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 My concern is that he doesn't fit the 'There's only one X X' chant We need a manager with a name of four syllables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 totally agree, hadn't heard of him before 2 days ago lol, Now I am excited by his cv He seems quite 'Saints' but a gamble really as never worked in a top league and has succeeded at the bigger teams in the leagues he has managed in where he has mostly had far better players than the opponents (for a short timeperiod never staying anywhere for more than 2 years). Lots of people were delighted to get £5m for Koeman and starting saying how a few players didn't like him etc but £5m is peanuts if we make the wrong appointment so its a big, big decision for the Club and I hope they can choose from their main choices rather than having to go lower down the list. Pochettino and Koeman both genuinely seemed to be first picks so I hope that continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themasoon Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 Wonder if the mystery man is the Rayo Vallecano manager Paco Jemez. Fits the profile of a young manager who plays pressing football but more attacking than Pochettino and has done well considering the clubs small budget. Saw someone on Twitter mention that he had an offer from an English club and seeing as we are the only manager less PL club it could be us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 He seems quite 'Saints' but a gamble really as never worked in a top league and has succeeded at the bigger teams in the leagues he has managed in where he has mostly had far better players than the opponents (for a short timeperiod never staying anywhere for more than 2 years). Lots of people were delighted to get £5m for Koeman and starting saying how a few players didn't like him etc but £5m is peanuts if we make the wrong appointment so its a big, big decision for the Club and I hope they can choose from their main choices rather than having to go lower down the list. Pochettino and Koeman both genuinely seemed to be first picks so I hope that continues. Misread post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millbrook Saint Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 AVB taking a 6 month break: http://m.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/14547728.AVB_rules_out_Saints_move/?ref=rss Have to say there seems to be quite a few indicating they aren't interested. Very important appointment, hopefully the Koeman thing hasn't been too much of a suprise. Of the names KBilly mentioned one is going to PSG and Howe has seemingly made it clear he isn't interested. Echo again says Pereira has been linked without mentioning that it has only been by them! Wonder who fed them that? Thing is if your agent is telling you that he hasn't been approached by the club, then some journalist asks if you're interested you can give one of 2 answers either 'I'm interested but the club haven't approached me' or 'No I'm not interested in that job'. With the size of most peoples egos in football I can't see option 1 being very likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 Eddie Howe would be too **** scared to leave Bournemouth again after the Burnley job ! No way it will be him, maybe in a few years but not now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 Thing is if your agent is telling you that he hasn't been approached by the club, then some journalist asks if you're interested you can give one of 2 answers either 'I'm interested but the club haven't approached me' or 'No I'm not interested in that job'. With the size of most peoples egos in football I can't see option 1 being very likely. Spot on. "So Mr Prospective Manager, why were you turned down or over looked by Southampton?" Either "They decided that X was a better option than me" or "I didn't put my hat in the ring as it wasn't of interest to me". But as per usual St Chuck is overly negative about it. Quelle surprise!!! Me, I see Saints for what it is, and it is a very attractive job for someone to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jim Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 Basically Eddie Howe does not fit the job spec. as far as I'm concerned. No European experience, no experience at the higher end of the top flights of European domestic football, no track record across multiple clubs[/b]. This is out best ever chance to appoint a genuine blue-chip manager. Don't throw it away Saints, don't throw it away. and Adkins and Pochettino did? Of our last 3 managers only Koeman fits in with your comment. From history of appointments under the Liebherr reign those are not requirements we look for and from look at previous appointments I'd say Howe fits our criteria perfectly (not that he'd be my first choice). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints1988 Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 Is it time for a MLT statue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 Murat Yakin does have a fantastic hairline so I wouldn't be opposed to this appointment. Can he rock skinny trousers and a blazer though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 Spot on. "So Mr Prospective Manager, why were you turned down or over looked by Southampton?" Either "They decided that X was a better option than me" or "I didn't put my hat in the ring as it wasn't of interest to me". But as per usual St Chuck is overly negative about it. Quelle surprise!!! Me, I see Saints for what it is, and it is a very attractive job for someone to have. Not sure what you found to be especially negative. I mentioned that a few candidates have seemingly ruled themselves out which is true, emphasis on 'seemingly'. Plus that it is an important appointment which is also true. And that if we get it wrong the £5m we got for Koeman will be irrelevant - which is true. That Pereira seems a good fit but is still a gamble as has only managed in second tier European leagues at sides that win them very regularly - which is true. Play the post not the poster. I'm excited about who we get and relaxed about Koeman going. But if for example we want Howe as no1 choice and he isn't interested then for the Club that would be a blow as there would obviously be a preference to get your preferred candidate. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 "De Boer’s agent confirmed to the Daily Echo there is no interest from Saints, while sources in Bournemouth have said that Eddie Howe has indicated he would not leave the Cherries for a move to St Mary’s at this stage." Quote from the Echo above about Howe ,but then a fortnight ago the echo would have been saying much the same about Koeman and Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 "De Boer’s agent confirmed to the Daily Echo there is no interest from Saints, while sources in Bournemouth have said that Eddie Howe has indicated he would not leave the Cherries for a move to St Mary’s at this stage." Quote from the Echo above about Howe ,but then a fortnight ago the echo would have been saying much the same about Koeman and Everton. At this stage........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimborne_saint Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 Could marcelino be an option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 I believe we wanted him too but went to Spartak Moscow. Out of work and would be a good fit. Other names not been monitoned but would be a good fit for us are Eduardo Berizzo although his comments on homosexuals will upset some on here Shame we missed out on lucien Favre just taken the Nice job would have been good. I did suggest Berizzo, along with di Francesco and Sousa. Admittedly it was more "no-one has mentioned these guys yet" rather than "I think we should get them". Oh god, I've just thought of someone who hasn't been mentioned... Tim Sherwood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai27 Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 Requested odds for Vitor Pereira via several sites and only Betvictor agreed to give it a go. 12/1! Thought you'd get better odds than that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 John Carver? With Simon Clifford as Director of Football. Ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 I find it interesting how Guan's shortlist from February included AvB / Moyes / De Boer are now seemingly ruled out by K.Billy's list (especially when the 3 of them are now not under contract with anybody). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 I'm sorry but why the clamour for Vitor Pereira? Doesn't seem to have a brilliant managerial background. What makes him perfect for Saints? Apologies if already stated pages ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 10 June, 2016 Author Share Posted 10 June, 2016 Hiddink... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 De Boer has been quoted saying he only wants to go to a club where he can stay for a good few years. I know thats doesnt mean much in football, but he might just come to us and stay for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 I'm sorry but why the clamour for Vitor Pereira? Doesn't seem to have a brilliant managerial background. What makes him perfect for Saints? Apologies if already stated pages ago. Don't think there is a clamour just his name has been linked in several places and seems to fit with how club want to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 De Boer has been quoted saying he only wants to go to a club where he can stay for a good few years. I know thats doesnt mean much in football, but he might just come to us and stay for a while. Which isn't the worst idea in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 De Boer has been quoted saying he only wants to go to a club where he can stay for a good few years. I know thats doesnt mean much in football, but he might just come to us and stay for a while. Well crikes-all-mighty, let's sign him up....the stability so many have craved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibizasaint Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 Wonder if the mystery man is the Rayo Vallecano manager Paco Jemez. Fits the profile of a young manager who plays pressing football but more attacking than Pochettino and has done well considering the clubs small budget. Saw someone on Twitter mention that he had an offer from an English club and seeing as we are the only manager less PL club it could be us. Interesting shout...they have had a good season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 I'm sorry but why the clamour for Vitor Pereira? Doesn't seem to have a brilliant managerial background. What makes him perfect for Saints? Apologies if already stated pages ago. Agree, I don't find him very inspiring at all... if we are to have a lesser experienced or lesser named manager, then Gary Rowett would be a far better bet in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 10 June, 2016 Share Posted 10 June, 2016 Wonder if the mystery man is the Rayo Vallecano manager Paco Jemez. Fits the profile of a young manager who plays pressing football but more attacking than Pochettino and has done well considering the clubs small budget. Saw someone on Twitter mention that he had an offer from an English club and seeing as we are the only manager less PL club it could be us. http://outsideoftheboot.com/2015/08/27/tactical-philosophy-paco-jemez/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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