Lord Duckhunter Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 They will just be behind closed doors. If there is no crowd there is no reason the government would stop a game happening. It’s not the dog & duck playing Sunday morning. Even behind closed doors, I’ll bet they’ll be 100 + people in the facility. You wait till 5 or 6 players in each club, or a couple of first team managers or referees get it. It’s not just match day, once it rips through clubs, they’ll be no training, no tactical work, and ultimately no games. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 The vitriolic lefty weirdos on here should honestly just stick to twitter. Whine, whine, whine, b1tch, b1tch, b1tch... but never a solution. Government is damned if they do, damned if they don’t - but don’t let your twisted, one sided view points get in the way of some good old political point scoring. Ughhhhhhhh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 The vitriolic lefty weirdos on here should honestly just stick to twitter. Whine, whine, whine, b1tch, b1tch, b1tch... but never a solution. Government is damned if they do, damned if they don’t - but don’t let your twisted, one sided view points get in the way of some good old political point scoring. Ughhhhhhhh... I heard a Labour MP kicking off at the 'Tory' response to this and saying Boris will have blood on his hands for not effectively shutting the country down. When questioned if the same view was shared toward Sadiq Khan, who has the powers to effectively shut down london....the response was no, that is different as London is the capital!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 I heard a Labour MP kicking off at the 'Tory' response to this and saying Boris will have blood on his hands for not effectively shutting the country down. When questioned if the same view was shared toward Sadiq Khan, who has the powers to effectively shut down london....the response was no, that is different as London is the capital!! Idiots. Constant whining, point scoring and b1tching but never offering genuine solutions. Talking of which, some of the cr4p on Twitter about how the Tory government genuinely wanted this to happen is laughable... but symptomatic of how cursed and vile their thought processes are. A lot of people talking about creating civil disobedience by going to work ill etc... On a personal level, I think our response has been proportionate and fair. This is a marathon, quite obviously, so I get why they’re managing it like they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 From what I can make out the Govt are basically doing what their medical experts (and presumably the best in the UK) are advising them. Yet journos, opposition MPs and the internet mob are all more knowledgeable all of a sudden and disagree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 From what I can make out the Govt are basically doing what their medical experts (and presumably the best in the UK) are advising them. Yet journos, opposition MPs and the internet mob are all more knowledgeable all of a sudden and disagree! Summed it up in a paragraph, thank you. My skin crawls every time I see or hear the odious Beth Rigby offer her view on anything. So embarrassing to see so many people challenge these genuinely knowledgeable and talented professionals, with years of experience on what they’re recommending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 They will just be behind closed doors. If there is no crowd there is no reason the government would stop a game happening. What about when players and / or clubs decide they don’t want to play? Like I said, I’ll be amazed if the season is finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 Idiots. Constant whining, point scoring and b1tching but never offering genuine solutions. Talking of which, some of the cr4p on Twitter about how the Tory government genuinely wanted this to happen is laughable... but symptomatic of how cursed and vile their thought processes are. A lot of people talking about creating civil disobedience by going to work ill etc... On a personal level, I think our response has been proportionate and fair. This is a marathon, quite obviously, so I get why they’re managing it like they are. Agree. Anyone who watched or listened today and still disagrees, is just clearly an idiot. Plan was spelt out as clear as an be, explained and reasoning provided. Will it work? Who knows, but I certainly trust them more than some Corbynite on twitter getting their nickers in a twist because France have surrendered and downed tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 Summed it up in a paragraph, thank you. My skin crawls every time I see or hear the odious Beth Rigby offer her view on anything. So embarrassing to see so many people challenge these genuinely knowledgeable and talented professionals, with years of experience on what they’re recommending. did you hear her earlier? "Primer Minister, how many people will die"....my god! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 The sanctimonious cnts are out in force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 What about when players and / or clubs decide they don’t want to play? Like I said, I’ll be amazed if the season is finished. I guess it depends how bad it gets. The government think it’s fine for 60,000 people to cram into a stadium just to watch a few blokes kick a ball about this Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 Summed it up in a paragraph, thank you. My skin crawls every time I see or hear the odious Beth Rigby offer her view on anything. So embarrassing to see so many people challenge these genuinely knowledgeable and talented professionals, with years of experience on what they’re recommending. Britain has had enough of experts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 From what I can make out the Govt are basically doing what their medical experts (and presumably the best in the UK) are advising them. Yet journos, opposition MPs and the internet mob are all more knowledgeable all of a sudden and disagree! Thought Kuenssberg's question was the best....basically: I know you've listened to all the science but what happens if your wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 Inevitable that the league will be at least suspended. Quite likely it will be shutdown altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 What about when players and / or clubs decide they don’t want to play? Like I said, I’ll be amazed if the season is finished. If UEFA announce that EURO 2020 will be delayed a year that will allow more time to complete this season, but it's going to be really disjointed with games called off as players or club officials catch the virus and the whole club goes into isolation for two week periods. Two week international break with games cancelled will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 Thought Kuenssberg's question was the best....basically: I know you've listened to all the science but what happens if your wrong? It was. We have to trust the judgment of people who are experts in their fields, but yes, they could be wrong. Rather that than listen to some permanently outraged lgbt climate change activist sh1tting their pants, whining about everything with zero concept of real working life or real life problems other than their own pathetic, selfish indulgences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 It was. We have to trust the judgment of people who are experts in their fields, but yes, they could be wrong. Rather that than listen to some permanently outraged lgbt climate change activist sh1tting their pants, whining about everything with zero concept of real working life or real life problems other than their own pathetic, selfish indulgences. Another big question though - what would Greta do ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectraman Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 Whatever her script writers tell her to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectraman Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 Whatever her script writers tell her to go! Do not go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 (edited) It was. We have to trust the judgment of people who are experts in their fields, but yes, they could be wrong. Rather that than listen to some permanently outraged lgbt climate change activist sh1tting their pants, whining about everything with zero concept of real working life or real life problems other than their own pathetic, selfish indulgences. It’s a bit more complicated - you have doctors and scientists who can tell you exactly how the virus acts; then you have behavioral economists/psychologists who are predicting how humans -with all their imperfections and irrationalities- are likely to respond. Needless to say, modeling the latter is very imprecise and based on all kinds of assumptions - so in this case, that we lack the discipline, motivation and constancy to put up with long-term restrictions on our behaviour, so rather than shooting our wad now, it’s better to wait till the virus starts to hit, so we can maintain commitment when it truly matters. There is evidence to support this view -and I will do as I’m told; but it’s reasonable to acknowledge it’s context-dependent and the uncertainty around estimates and so different countries with their respective experts will legitimately reach different policy conclusions, especially as they are having to juggle multiple, conflicting goals. Edited 12 March, 2020 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 https://www.arsenal.com/news/club-statement-covid-19 Probably going to see games stopped pretty soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 Arteta has tested positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Reece Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 Arteta tested positive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 Mikel Arteta has been diagnosed with it and the full first team squad plus staff have been told to isolate. All jokes aside the season needs cancelling. Give Liverpool the trophy if you want, there's too much risk here. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 If you are going to cut the season short you can’t make any assumptions about where teams are going to finish, therefore no promotions, no relegations and no champions. It’s tough but it is fair to all. People’s lives are more important than sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 If you are going to cut the season short you can’t make any assumptions about where teams are going to finish, therefore no promotions, no relegations and no champions. It’s tough but it is fair to all. People’s lives are more important than sport. I think we could safely assume the Dippers would win the league at this point, but your overall assertion is correct. They'd just have to scrub the season, and start again (hopefully) in August with the same 20 teams. It's the fairest way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 So... if Arteta caught it off the Olympiakos owner then does that mean that he will have been infected when they played Pompey? Potentially that will mean that the next British club to go down en masse with the virus could be Pompey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 Another big question though - what would Greta do ? To be fair, she also has just been saying what the experts in their fields have been saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 I wonder if they could host a playoff between the current bottom 3 and Championship top 3. Not a perfect solution but fairer on the likes of Leeds and WBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 Mikel Arteta has been diagnosed with it and the full first team squad plus staff have been told to isolate. All jokes aside the season needs cancelling. Give Liverpool the trophy if you want, there's too much risk here. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk It was always going to hit the game. It’s probably one of the highest risk categories outside of the medics. There’s employees from all over the world, plus their agents, scouts, owners , press officers, journos friends, family and god knows who else, flying in and out of various countries. You’ve got blokes changing next to each other daily, basically living in each other’s pockets day in day out, plus contact with oppositions players, and supporters (selfies etc). I’d be amazed if the % of people connected with football that have the virus is far higher than the general population. From what the snap dragon told me earlier and what’s happened tonight, it’s over imo. I doubt we’ll play again after Norwich. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 If you are going to cut the season short you can’t make any assumptions about where teams are going to finish, therefore no promotions, no relegations and no champions. It’s tough but it is fair to all. People’s lives are more important than sport. I don't disagree with you but you can predict now it will be subject to legal challenge by a team missing out on promotion (Leeds for example), or one who goes down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 Absolutely ridiculous that they haven’t been cancelled already. This will finally get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 Arteta will be fine I should imagine . He is staying inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 It is interesting that the government’s scientific advisors think it’s a good idea that hundreds of thousands of people should travel round the country and cram into stadiums just to watch football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trout-Tickler Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 Sky Sports reporting that the Premier League has called an emergency club meeting tomorrow. With Arteta confirmed has having it, Leicester players self isolating, and Mendy at Man City doing likewise can't see how the season can continue especially as it's now hitting the players themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 It is interesting that the government’s scientific advisors think it’s a good idea that hundreds of thousands of people should travel round the country and cram into stadiums just to watch football. They are advising that society continues as normal as possible. If event organisers (and spectators) feel it fine to cram together, that is up to them. The containment phase did not work, so the delay phase will endure as long as possible/until all government departments are ready and the warmer weather is here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 They are advising that society continues as normal as possible. If event organisers (and spectators) feel it fine to cram together, that is up to them. The containment phase did not work, so the delay phase will endure as long as possible/until all government departments are ready and the warmer weather is here. I get that but football can stop tomorrow and society will still carry on pretty much as normal. It’s not like your closing schools which actually effects people’s job etc. Even if it just saves a few lives it’s worth doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 I get that but football can stop tomorrow and society will still carry on pretty much as normal. It’s not like your closing schools which actually effects people’s job etc. Even if it just saves a few lives it’s worth doing. If football wants to stop tomorrow, nothing is preventing it. Nothing is forcing fans to attend Cheltenham either. People can make their own minds up (at the moment) on what best suits them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 The F1 has just been called off for this weekend. Won’t be the last such race either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 There's plenty of experts out there who don't believe we're doing enough, early enough. One thing I noted in some comments is the lack of transparency of 'why' certain decisions have been taken. For all the talk of experts hw much pressure are they under to accept less than they would like? Also it was noted that there was no mention of an increased testing regime - what is happening about that? I've read of people wanting a test as they've been in affected places abroad, with symptoms, and have been told they can't have them as the place is not on the list. It strikes me that capacity for testing is nowhere near it should be yet. As for the mouth-frothers up thread going on about LGBT lefties; you give it an effing break as well. We already know your right-wing views thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 It’s a bit more complicated - you have doctors and scientists who can tell you exactly how the virus acts; then you have behavioral economists/psychologists who are predicting how humans -with all their imperfections and irrationalities- are likely to respond. Needless to say, modeling the latter is very imprecise and based on all kinds of assumptions - so in this case, that we lack the discipline, motivation and constancy to put up with long-term restrictions on our behaviour, so rather than shooting our wad now, it’s better to wait till the virus starts to hit, so we can maintain commitment when it truly matters. There is evidence to support this view -and I will do as I’m told; but it’s reasonable to acknowledge it’s context-dependent and the uncertainty around estimates and so different countries with their respective experts will legitimately reach different policy conclusions, especially as they are having to juggle multiple, conflicting goals. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 Brighton v Arsenal off. Sensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 Brighton v Arsenal off. Sensible. I don’t think sense actually comes into it. That game couldn’t not be cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 I don’t think sense actually comes into it. That game couldn’t not be cancelled. Fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 I don’t think sense actually comes into it. That game couldn’t not be cancelled. Emergency PL meeting tomorrow, I'd be absolutely amazed if that doesn't result in all matches being called off at this point. I think it's unlikely this season finishes now, how the heck they'd decide any titles, promotion, relegation etc... I've got no idea. Depends on how the course of the virus pans out and how long it takes I guess. I think lawyers are probably going to end up being involved >_ All of this pales into comparison to fighting a global pandemic of course, that has to be first priority, but there's a heck of a lot of paperwork coming for someone eventually once we've beaten it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 12 March, 2020 Share Posted 12 March, 2020 did you hear her earlier? "Primer Minister, how many people will die"....my god! Whatever your views on a reporter - why do you think this crisis is even remotely funny?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 March, 2020 Share Posted 13 March, 2020 In important stuff does anyone know what temporary Facebook profile picture we need to put up to show our support for those with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 13 March, 2020 Share Posted 13 March, 2020 In important stuff does anyone know what temporary Facebook profile picture we need to put up to show our support for those with it? It's a picture of Westwood Turkish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 13 March, 2020 Share Posted 13 March, 2020 Gabbiadini tested positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 13 March, 2020 Share Posted 13 March, 2020 Only half a day late with the breaking news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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