Saint Pete Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 3 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Wait, why no VAR???? Odd one that, didn't appear the linesman flagged on the replay unless it was very late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 JWP playing higher up the pitch than he has done for Saints lately. Not sure that's his best position. Think he's more effective when playing deeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Frustrating watching him make good runs into space and get ignored. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 2 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Frustrating watching him make good runs into space and get ignored. Aye.... Seems to be a case of "let's not pass it to the Southampton fella" at times 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 JWP needs to cut his fringe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Just now, trousers said: JWP needs to cut his fringe His hairline is receding and he needs the fringe for a comb over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkSaint Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 He doesn't look out of place. But we cd certainly use a little more excitement 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 29 minutes ago, trousers said: Aye.... Seems to be a case of "let's not pass it to the Southampton fella" at times Would say that's ridiculous but right at the end there I saw two examples of a player facing ward Prowse who was in acres of space and turning their back on him to pass into traffic. Hope we're not returning to the England cliques. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Pundits make excuses for Rice's terrible attempt on goal and then criticise JWP for dropping deep to receive the ball instead of staying up front 🤦♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vin Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 I must have been watching a different game to Ashley Cole. Foden has been the player dropping deep and Ward Prowse has often been the furthest forward of the midfield 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 1 minute ago, adriansfc said: Rice and JWP would be a decent double pivot. Shame they're not doing that but international football doesn't really attract any decent managers anymore. It's fairly painful to watch most the time. Rice and JWP, Sancho and Sterling on the wings, Kane and Ings up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 The shape is all wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Just now, Delmary said: The shape is all wrong. Definitely. England looked good in the last couple of years with the two wingers coming narrow and running beyond Kane, with two defensive mids and one attacking as the link. For some reason Southgate lives changing a system that works. Sancho has been shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 45 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: His hairline is receding and he needs the fringe for a comb over. Turned on the game and was trying to find him and spotted him instantly but him sorting out his hair. He touches his hair about 50 times in 90mins, think I will start the JWP drinking game for our 1st game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Another England game where Kane offers nothing unless it's put on a plate for him or someone wins a penalty. Not sure if it's the England system or he just doesn't offer much but I can't remember him doing anything for England since that World Cup group game when he got an easy hat trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Just now, igsey said: Another England game where Kane offers nothing unless it's put on a plate for him or someone wins a penalty. Not sure if it's the England system or he just doesn't offer much but I can't remember him doing anything for England since that World Cup group game when he got an easy hat trick. Kane is at his best for England when dropping deeper, turning and playing the ball through for the pace of sterling/Sancho/Rashford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Come on Ingsy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Prowse nearly on goal, clogger Kane couldn't find him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Don't think any of them are match fit, they all look a bit off the pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Walker barely touched him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Ings runs into the centre, Sterling passes it behind him 😂🤦♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 JWP now playing in his best position. We actually look better with 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 All a bit crap really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 We need to get it in the mixer, all this fannying around is painful to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Has either team had a shot on goal yet...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Just now, trousers said: Has either team had a shot on goal yet...? Kane in the first couple of minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Just now, Toadhall Saint said: Kane in the first couple of minutes. Ah, yes... So many memorable moments I completely forgot about that one...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Pretty sure we've had a different corner taker every single time. Get a routine set up ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Who the fuck takes this???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Fucking hell 😂 gomez didn't want sterling to be the hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 (edited) soft penalty for England, let alone a 2nd yellow.... looks like the ref realises and gives a penalty to iceland a few seconds later Edited 5 September, 2020 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Funny old game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Decent enough performance from JWP all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve green Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Glad the ref turned up to entertain us. Not a penalty for England imo, really not a yellow/therefore red anyway. Not sure about theirs either, but ho hum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 That was as bad as watching us under Puel! England created very little. Would have been disgusted if the England penalty had been awarded against Saints. JWP did OK. Danny got nothing at all to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Nice one Prowsey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Ha ha, funny if true but I rarely trust photos anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keef Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Boring - the build up was so slow. Very little inventiveness I thought. Danny didn't have much to feed on. I thought JWP had a generally positive game and when he did lose it, chased back and won it back with that new "bite" he has in his game. Anyway - genuine question as I don't know....hope it hasn't already been mentioned previously in this thread.. When was the last time in an England game, Saints had two players on the pitch at the same time? Someone on here will know I'm sure......Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPY Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 14 minutes ago, Saint Keef said: Boring - the build up was so slow. Very little inventiveness I thought. Danny didn't have much to feed on. I thought JWP had a generally positive game and when he did lose it, chased back and won it back with that new "bite" he has in his game. Anyway - genuine question as I don't know....hope it hasn't already been mentioned previously in this thread.. When was the last time in an England game, Saints had two players on the pitch at the same time? Someone on here will know I'm sure......Cheers. JWP and Redmond a couple of years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 11 minutes ago, Saint Keef said: Boring - the build up was so slow. Very little inventiveness I thought. Danny didn't have much to feed on. I thought JWP had a generally positive game and when he did lose it, chased back and won it back with that new "bite" he has in his game. Anyway - genuine question as I don't know....hope it hasn't already been mentioned previously in this thread.. When was the last time in an England game, Saints had two players on the pitch at the same time? Someone on here will know I'm sure......Cheers. Oh yeah. Didn't we have 3 or 4 in one game not so many years ago? Forster, Redmond, Bertrand, Prowse/Clyne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 4 minutes ago, Manuel said: Oh yeah. Didn't we have 3 or 4 in one game not so many years ago? Forster, Redmond, Bertrand, Prowse/Clyne? How could you forget Rickie?!!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 3 minutes ago, Manuel said: Oh yeah. Didn't we have 3 or 4 in one game not so many years ago? Forster, Redmond, Bertrand, Prowse/Clyne? Germany away 2017. Bertrand started the game. JWPand Redmond came on as subs. JWP as Ryan went off, so we only had 2 on at one time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Terrible game of football. Slow pace, no movement, backwards and sideways for 90mins. Very lucky to have won that. Iceland are a dreadful outfit too, so a big wakeup call. Need to get the best out of players like Foden, Sterling, Sancho, Kane etc. That's as good as an attacking 4 around, but they just didn't get into the game. Lots of work to do I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keef Posted 5 September, 2020 Share Posted 5 September, 2020 Thanks for the various replies all - I'd forgotten the JWP and Redmond game......well I remembered JWP came on but forgot Redders had come on as well. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 6 September, 2020 Share Posted 6 September, 2020 5 hours ago, trousers said: Nice one Prowsey Thought there was a bit of shithousing going on when he hung about on the spot - almost “hey did you see the last penalty I took v Everton?” “ you better that and I will stand you and your family a slap up feast of that pickled Puffin you folk all like round here”. Thought JWP did alright seemed to be idling on tick over nice and easy, whilst those around him looked a bit leggy. Noted when Walker went to test the hot water first, Prowsey was over to Southgate to get the positional message to take back to the team. Southgate and JWP have a good relationship going back to when he was his captain for the under 21s/23s - Southgate commented not too long ago that some might accuse him of being JWPs Dad. Kane looked shot very early in the second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 6 September, 2020 Share Posted 6 September, 2020 Still not sure why not one proper left back in the squad..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 6 September, 2020 Share Posted 6 September, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, John Boy Saint said: Thought JWP did alright seemed to be idling on tick over nice and easy, whilst those around him looked a bit leggy. Noted when Walker went to test the hot water first, Prowsey was over to Southgate to get the positional message to take back to the team. Southgate and JWP have a good relationship going back to when he was his captain for the under 21s/23s - Southgate commented not too long ago that some might accuse him of being JWPs Dad. Given there appeared to be an element of players not passing to JWP when that was the obvious pass (happened less as the game went on to be fair), the conspiracy theorist lurking in the back of my mind did wonder if the other players see JWP as a bit of a teacher's pet and don't think he's there on merit alone. Probably a load of unsubstantiated nonsense from me (just for a change) but stranger things have happened... Maybe... Edited 6 September, 2020 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 6 September, 2020 Share Posted 6 September, 2020 1 hour ago, skintsaint said: Still not sure why not one proper left back in the squad..... Other than Bertrand, who was available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 6 September, 2020 Share Posted 6 September, 2020 10 minutes ago, trousers said: Given there appeared to be an element of players not passing to JWP when that was the obvious pass (happened less as the game went on to be fair), the conspiracy theorist lurking in the back of my mind did wonder if the other players see JWP as a bit of a teacher's pet and don't think he's there on merit alone. Probably a load of unsubstantiated nonsense from me (just for a change) but stranger things have happened... Maybe... Yeh I noticed that, he made a lot of good runs and barely got the ball, had he been used I think they would have scored in the first half. I saw it more as a pretty typical England thing of the regular clique not really liking new people, the likes of Sterling, Kane and Sancho having been playing together for like 1-2 years so its probably just that. Maybe also some big club ego because he's only from little old Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 September, 2020 Share Posted 6 September, 2020 16 minutes ago, trousers said: Given there appeared to be an element of players not passing to JWP when that was the obvious pass (happened less as the game went on to be fair), the conspiracy theorist lurking in the back of my mind did wonder if the other players see JWP as a bit of a teacher's pet and don't think he's there on merit alone. Probably a load of unsubstantiated nonsense from me (just for a change) but stranger things have happened... Maybe... Probably more the big time superstars wanting to show boat against supposedly inferior opponents trying to do the spectacular rather than simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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