Dark Munster Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 Topic says it all. We've had some appalling ones over the decades. Is N. Jones the worst, or was there someone worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 Probably an amount of recency bias but this is the worst football (in relation to the level) and most dislike I’ve ever held for a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 I went for Jones but didn’t get the pleasure (?) of watching a Branfoot team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 Seen all of them and I despise Jones more then any of the others combined. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 He certainly seems to be he’s also the worst premier league manager ever with Wigley and Jones we now have two of the top 5 we love a record 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 Branfoot had real hate, but that was a totally different era 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 Jones is the worst, by virtue of his lack of humility and total absence of anything resembling ability, authority and the total collapse of the club's playing form in his short time in charge despite being given more money at his disposal then any manager in our history. Second highest spenders in Europe for heaven's sake. The only one to come close is Saggy, and even then at least didn't have the resources to play with. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 Jones is awful and probably the worst but it’s a very long list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneawol Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 If George Weah had a Welsh cousin... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 (edited) Jones. Nobody else comes close. We've got no identity on the pitch, he's an embarrassment every time he speaks, he doesn't pick his best players, he doesn't play to the strengths of the players he does pick, his game management is shocking, etc, etc,etc. I expected it to be a monumental clusterfuck of an appointment, but it's much worse than that. Edited 11 February, 2023 by egg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 11 February, 2023 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2023 1 minute ago, Colinjb said: Jones is the worst, by virtue of his lack of humility and total absence of anything resembling ability, authority and the total collapse of the club's playing form in his short time in charge despite being given more money at his disposal then any manager in our history. Second highest spenders in Europe for heaven's sake. The only one to come close is Saggy, and even then at least didn't have the resources to play with. I'm having difficulty deciding between those two. Saggy got rid of Beattie, was an obnoxious tit who also threw the players under the bus, finished bottom of the league, and was a skate infiltrator by all accounts (thumbs up to Mad Milan after the Krapnottarf capitulation, and buggered off back to them after the damage was done). True he didn't have as much to spend, but he did have a squad with some decent payers, and by all accounts he did bugger all during training, spending all his time on his phone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 1 minute ago, Dark Munster said: I'm having difficulty deciding between those two. Saggy got rid of Beattie, was an obnoxious tit who also threw the players under the bus, finished bottom of the league, and was a skate infiltrator by all accounts (thumbs up to Mad Milan after the Krapnottarf capitulation, and buggered off back to them after the damage was done). True he didn't have as much to spend, but he did have a squad with some decent payers, and by all accounts he did bugger all during training, spending all his time on his phone. True, he was undone by his fundamental disinterest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkswood Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 Blimey that's a bit of a motley crew. How do you pick the worst out of all that shite ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 Dean Wilkins lucky to just be a caretaker, otherwise he’d have made the list. Same for the Gorman/Dodd dream team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hawkswood said: Blimey that's a bit of a motley crew. How do you pick the worst out of all that shite ! Jones had a month + to work with a squad, and we in touch with teams around us. He then had a load of new players. Despite that he's managed to make us worse than we were before he arrived. I can't think of another manager who's come near being that bad, hence me picking him. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 Yet another list the Welsh Weasel tops! Best manager in Europe, fittest man in the world, biggest cunt in 138 years of SFC! 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 Jones Pellegrino Hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 Is it even a contest? If we win the FA Cup this year I'll change my mind, but for now nobody comes close to this Welsh wanker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 He's made us worse when we were already record breakingly shit, so for that stat alone (and we all know how we love our stats) he's the outright winner. No contest. Jones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 Unhappily I’ve seen us play under all of those managers. Some were truly crap others didn’t get the best deal but I have to say that Nathan Jones is without doubt the most inept, out of his depth clueless manager of the lot. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 Pellegrino and his Carrillo waste of money will always be top of this list for me. But Jones is top 3 now with Poortvliet. I was only a fleeting Saints fan during the Branfoot era so largely bypassed it. Hughes was pretty crap too. Poortvliet is harsh because he didn't have the money but he was still awful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintroyt Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 2 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: Unhappily I’ve seen us play under all of those managers. Some were truly crap others didn’t get the best deal but I have to say that Nathan Jones is without doubt the most inept, out of his depth clueless manager of the lot. And sadly our dynamic board won’t act swiftly adding to the chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 There's some competition for the worst. Pellegrino, Wigley and Jones all pretty terrible. But Jones is streets ahead as the most objectionable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 The Branfoot years were too early for me. Close call between Wigley and Jones. Taking the recency bias out of it, its Wigley for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said: The Branfoot years were too early for me. Close call between Wigley and Jones. Taking the recency bias out of it, its Wigley for me Such a strange appointment. I remember when he was appointed I don’t think there was even a formal announcement, he was interviewed but the press and asked who was now in charge of the first team and he just replied “me” looked very surprised and I comfortable. branfoot was horrendous, but everything about Jones is worse Edited 11 February, 2023 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 6 minutes ago, Turkish said: Such a strange appointment. I remember when he was appointed I don’t think there was even a formal announcement, he was interviewed but the press and asked who was now in charge of the first team and he just replied “me” looked very surprised and I comfortable. branfoot was horrendous, but everything about Jones is worse 1 win in 14, albeit against Pompey. For all the shit that Redknapp gets (alot of it deserved), if we had've got rid of Wigley when we should have we would have stayed up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 2 hours ago, Dark Munster said: I'm having difficulty deciding between those two. Saggy got rid of Beattie, was an obnoxious tit who also threw the players under the bus, finished bottom of the league, and was a skate infiltrator by all accounts (thumbs up to Mad Milan after the Krapnottarf capitulation, and buggered off back to them after the damage was done). True he didn't have as much to spend, but he did have a squad with some decent payers, and by all accounts he did bugger all during training, spending all his time on his phone. Beattie didn’t want leave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 Pellegrino the worst for me, and the worst manager the Premier League has seen imo. Took over from a manager who got us 8th and nearly won a cup, whilst juggling Europe. Would’ve relegated us for certain, and then signed his mate for a record fee when he should’ve been sacked long before, then to compound it gets to take him on loan to whatever Spanish minnow he went to next - couldn’t write it really. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 7 minutes ago, saintwbu said: Pellegrino the worst for me, and the worst manager the Premier League has seen imo. Took over from a manager who got us 8th and nearly won a cup, whilst juggling Europe. Would’ve relegated us for certain, and then signed his mate for a record fee when he should’ve been sacked long before, then to compound it gets to take him on loan to whatever Spanish minnow he went to next - couldn’t write it really. like many of the terrible managers, did well in the cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkswood Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 Pfft, I'm still a bit torn. Jones feels worst because it's fresh, but I was possibly more depressed during the Branfoot years. I'm a bit older now so it doesn't affect me as much. Also found pellegrino thoroughly depressing. In fairness though, I don't think I've seen a saints starting 11 look so disjointed as they do with jones, so putting to the side how much of a knobhead he is I think for me he just edges out the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Bates Statue Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 13 minutes ago, saintwbu said: Would’ve relegated us for certain, and then signed his mate for a record fee when he should’ve been sacked long before, then to compound it gets to take him on loan to whatever Spanish minnow he went to next - couldn’t write it really. Reminds me of that time our Director of Football Operations signed his friend as manager, just before handing in his notice to leave at the end of the season. I wonder if Matt Crocker can make room for Nathan Jones at his next role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 Appreciate Hughes didn’t last long but he was brought in to keep us up which he did (albeit just). I’m comparison to Jones, he did a far far better job. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAY-Z Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 (edited) Branfoot was before my time, so I voted for Stuart Gray as we were on a massive up when he took over from Hoddle (and actually had some good results as caretaker) but as full time manager he stopped some big momentum Jones comes in second, the only reason is we were already on a massive massive massive downward trajectory when he took over **only joking but maybe we should get hoddle back as we played 4-3-3 that season and it seems so obvious that we should be playing that now, Davies-Beattie-Pahars was a fun trio** Edited 11 February, 2023 by MAY-Z 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 (edited) Jones has had 60M spent this month, had a pre season with nothing to show for it, has worsened performances by any metric, has caused serious disharmony in the squad, has fully alienated the entire fanbase, and has turned the club into a laughing stock. The only person at the club who is more incompetant is Rasmus. Edited 11 February, 2023 by Saint86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 Branfoot before my time. Pellegrino was horrific, took a top half side to relegation candidate and we've never recovered. Nathan Jones however is far, far worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonman Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 1. Saggy Chops 2. Jones 3. The Clown 4. Wigley 5. Branfoot If SR persist with Jones, he has an excellent chance of claiming top spot, hopefully we don’t get to find out.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 I know these topics tend to get emotive and irrational after another defeat but it really is hard to make a case for a manager worse than Jones. Redknapp and Wigley were both lumbered with a bloated squad of substandard bargains and aging, injured has-beens, especially in defence. Poortvliet was the other end of the spectrum with a thin squad stuffed with kids, but sometimes had us playing with some sort of style and had the odd decent result. MoPe and Hughes collectively kept us up, so that’s…. Something. Branfoot was before my time so I can’t really comment. Sourness wasn’t this bad and Wotte actually did alright for a while, when Saganowski came back from Aalborg and started scoring. Jones though… not one redeeming feature or mitigating factor. Ralph had this squad at least fighting relegation, without Lavia, Alcaraz, Paul, Sully or Orsic (I refuse to count Bednarek or Bree as additions to our squad). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 18 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: I know these topics tend to get emotive and irrational after another defeat but it really is hard to make a case for a manager worse than Jones. Redknapp and Wigley were both lumbered with a bloated squad of substandard bargains and aging, injured has-beens, especially in defence. Poortvliet was the other end of the spectrum with a thin squad stuffed with kids, but sometimes had us playing with some sort of style and had the odd decent result. MoPe and Hughes collectively kept us up, so that’s…. Something. Branfoot was before my time so I can’t really comment. Sourness wasn’t this bad and Wotte actually did alright for a while, when Saganowski came back from Aalborg and started scoring. Jones though… not one redeeming feature or mitigating factor. Ralph had this squad at least fighting relegation, without Lavia, Alcaraz, Paul, Sully or Orsic (I refuse to count Bednarek or Bree as additions to our squad). Ralph did better because he didn’t have Bednarek. He had got rid of him for a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 It's almost impressive how much Jones has regressed the squad and set the fanbase against him in such a short amount of time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 Jones has been the biggest disappointment! When you consider he won the Champions League with Luton Town. I expected so much more…. Ps. Is delusion a catching disease ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 I went for Jones, but feel I should make it clear that is only in the context of saints manager. He still remains the bestest in all of Europe though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 On reflection if the title of this post was edited to ‘worst manager’ or ‘worst Welshman’ perhaps ‘worst human’ Nat would once again be amongst Europe’s elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 Are we 92nd out of 92 teams yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 Nope - you lot have got short memories or dodgy history tutors! Only one manager came (and from the evil smelling end of the M27), spent loads of money on crap players, took us down to the Championship and then fuktorf down the road saying his 'eart 'ad never been in it' There will never be anyone who has done more harm to my club and I despise him! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die Mannyschaft Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 Harry Redknapp 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulwantsapint81 Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 Branfoot awful football but did win games & had MLT, Shearer, Flowers et al Souness Played some great football at times & kept saints up even if that was more Terry Cooper Gray Got job for loyalty & long service, needed a proper assistant Wigley Massive Mistake. Hampered by injuries to Beattie, Phillips & Crouch Redknapp Never wanted to be here but did win some games Poortvliet Tried to play football but only had kids Wotte Same as Poortvliet Hughes saved saints from relegation & didn’t let Swansea dirty tricks interfere Pellegrino Nice guy just awful manager N. Jones Has managed to unite the fan base in hatred towards him, fallen out with the players & coaching staff (allegedly), lost almost every game Other (specify in comments) Hoddle - great tactically but lacking the human touch - if only spurs didn’t come in or Lowe had stood by the reappointment Puel - organised but boring at SMS & failed in europe - if only Fonte stayed & VVD didn’t get injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 25 minutes ago, Paulwantsapint81 said: Branfoot awful football but did win games & had MLT, Shearer, Flowers et al Souness Played some great football at times & kept saints up even if that was more Terry Cooper Gray Got job for loyalty & long service, needed a proper assistant Wigley Massive Mistake. Hampered by injuries to Beattie, Phillips & Crouch Redknapp Never wanted to be here but did win some games Poortvliet Tried to play football but only had kids Wotte Same as Poortvliet Hughes saved saints from relegation & didn’t let Swansea dirty tricks interfere Pellegrino Nice guy just awful manager N. Jones Has managed to unite the fan base in hatred towards him, fallen out with the players & coaching staff (allegedly), lost almost every game Other (specify in comments) Hoddle - great tactically but lacking the human touch - if only spurs didn’t come in or Lowe had stood by the reappointment Puel - organised but boring at SMS & failed in europe - if only Fonte stayed & VVD didn’t get injured Very good summary, thank you but I would add about Branfoot---didn't win many games and kept Le Tiss on the bench 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channons Windmill Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 According to Wikipedia, between Sept 1955 and May 1991, we had three managers covering 1682 games... Since then we have had thirty managers (incl. caretakers) covering 1368 games.. I know football has changed a lot over this period, but it would be interesting to compare this against other, more balanced, clubs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 5 minutes ago, Channons Windmill said: According to Wikipedia, between Sept 1955 and May 1991, we had three managers covering 1682 games... Since then we have had thirty managers (incl. caretakers) covering 1368 games.. I know football has changed a lot over this period, but it would be interesting to compare this against other, more balanced, clubs.. Any chance we could get Alfred McMinn back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channons Windmill Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 3 minutes ago, cloggy saint said: Any chance we could get Alfred McMinn back? Well Wikipedia doesn't record a date of death for him, so he might be available but probably the wrong side of 150 now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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