Simo is back Posted 9 May, 2023 Share Posted 9 May, 2023 Selles is the only constant that has gone along with the dire football we have seen the last couple of years he needs to be released as soon as the season finishes and the new manager announced. If he's a good one we may have a chance of keeping some of our better players next season . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 9 May, 2023 Share Posted 9 May, 2023 1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said: It’s obvious that they put all their eggs in the Jones basket, but it became untenable. Selles got a couple of decent results and got some stability back, he also had the Nods singing his song, so the board probably thought they’d go with it. Unfortunately, when it became apparent he wasn’t going to train on, it was probably too late to do anything without throwing an obscene amount of money at it. I’m just hoping the board have a plan and are ”comfortable “ with us going down, to come back up stronger. Perhaps I’m deluded, but maybe that’s it…. That's what I'm worried about. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 9 May, 2023 Share Posted 9 May, 2023 More blackadder pics and gifs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 9 May, 2023 Share Posted 9 May, 2023 2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: It’s obvious that they put all their eggs in the Jones basket, but it became untenable. Selles got a couple of decent results and got some stability back, he also had the Nods singing his song, so the board probably thought they’d go with it. Unfortunately, when it became apparent he wasn’t going to train on, it was probably too late to do anything without throwing an obscene amount of money at it. I’m just hoping the board have a plan and are ”comfortable “ with us going down, to come back up stronger. Perhaps I’m deluded, but maybe that’s it…. Tbh this won’t be popular probably but fanbase didn’t help jones position at all ..got on his back exceptionally quick and after that he was always on the defensive with his post match interviews and digging his hole deeper and deeper .. obviously results were also poor .. im sounding like a jones fanboy or something here but I definitely would rather have him then selles .. selles post match interviews are also just as ridiculous and deluded claiming we will keep fighting when we never even started .. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 9 May, 2023 Share Posted 9 May, 2023 2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: It’s obvious that they put all their eggs in the Jones basket, but it became untenable. Selles got a couple of decent results and got some stability back, he also had the Nods singing his song, so the board probably thought they’d go with it. Unfortunately, when it became apparent he wasn’t going to train on, it was probably too late to do anything without throwing an obscene amount of money at it. I’m just hoping the board have a plan and are ”comfortable “ with us going down, to come back up stronger. Perhaps I’m deluded, but maybe that’s it…. Nice like this take alot as it speaks sense about what really happened since Nov LD (not related to LD sports or are you?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 9 May, 2023 Share Posted 9 May, 2023 4 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said: Tbh this won’t be popular probably but fanbase didn’t help jones position at all ..got on his back exceptionally quick and after that he was always on the defensive with his post match interviews and digging his hole deeper and deeper .. obviously results were also poor .. im sounding like a jones fanboy or something here but I definitely would rather have him then selles .. selles post match interviews are also just as ridiculous and deluded claiming we will keep fighting when we never even started .. Jones's issue was he is too emotional as a character trait, be it in his press conferences or other interactions he gave out the insecurity vibe constantly. Selles sounds like the knight in monty pythons holy grail who keeps wanting to fight even tho he has no arms/legs etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 9 May, 2023 Share Posted 9 May, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Simo is back said: Selles is the only constant that has gone along with the dire football we have seen the last couple of years he needs to be released as soon as the season finishes and the new manager announced. If he's a good one we may have a chance of keeping some of our better players next season . You mean the guy who only joined us last summer? Did he influence Saints when he was at Copenhagen? 🤷♂️ Edited 9 May, 2023 by Greenridge 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksaint Posted 9 May, 2023 Share Posted 9 May, 2023 25 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said: Tbh this won’t be popular probably but fanbase didn’t help jones position at all ..got on his back exceptionally quick and after that he was always on the defensive with his post match interviews and digging his hole deeper and deeper .. obviously results were also poor .. im sounding like a jones fanboy or something here but I definitely would rather have him then selles .. selles post match interviews are also just as ridiculous and deluded claiming we will keep fighting when we never even started .. I don’t necessarily disagree with you. What amazes me is the obvious lack of media training he’d had and how Saints invested many millions into him but clearly didn’t address it or even see it before he arrived. If they’d done their due diligence on him as a complete package they’d have seen that he was a bit of a media car crash and put things in place. Maybe if they had we wouldn’t necessarily be where we are now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo is back Posted 9 May, 2023 Share Posted 9 May, 2023 3 minutes ago, Greenridge said: You mean the guy who only joined us last summer? Did he influence Saints when he was at Copenhagen? 🤷♂️ Which was last year was it not ? And we are into a new year now are we not ? So how many years would that be ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 9 May, 2023 Share Posted 9 May, 2023 1 minute ago, Simo is back said: Which was last year was it not ? And we are into a new year now are we not ? So how many years would that be ? 1 season. Not even a complete season. Good try but you’ve had a stinker. Apportion blame where it’s due. He’s part of this seasons problem. That’s it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 9 May, 2023 Share Posted 9 May, 2023 30 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said: Tbh this won’t be popular probably but fanbase didn’t help jones position at all ..got on his back exceptionally quick and after that he was always on the defensive with his post match interviews and digging his hole deeper and deeper .. obviously results were also poor .. im sounding like a jones fanboy or something here but I definitely would rather have him then selles .. selles post match interviews are also just as ridiculous and deluded claiming we will keep fighting when we never even started .. You could look at it from the other way around, that the one guy paid millions of pounds to manage a prem side shouldn't have risen to the emotional bleatings of a number of anonymous fans. Only a joke of a manager responds to a fans chant. The mistake of getting Jones in, doesn't mean getting rid of Ralph was a mistake and likewise the mistake of getting Selles in doesn't mean getting rid of Jones was a mistake. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 9 May, 2023 Share Posted 9 May, 2023 3 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: It’s obvious that they put all their eggs in the Jones basket, but it became untenable. Selles got a couple of decent results and got some stability back, he also had the Nods singing his song, so the board probably thought they’d go with it. Unfortunately, when it became apparent he wasn’t going to train on, it was probably too late to do anything without throwing an obscene amount of money at it. I’m just hoping the board have a plan and are ”comfortable “ with us going down, to come back up stronger. Perhaps I’m deluded, but maybe that’s it…. All Saints fans are deluded. It goes with the territory. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 10 hours ago, pimpin4rizeal said: Tbh this won’t be popular probably but fanbase didn’t help jones position at all ..got on his back exceptionally quick and after that he was always on the defensive with his post match interviews and digging his hole deeper and deeper .. obviously results were also poor .. im sounding like a jones fanboy or something here but I definitely would rather have him then selles .. selles post match interviews are also just as ridiculous and deluded claiming we will keep fighting when we never even started .. Jones was woefully out of his depth and made it infinitely worse for himself with the way he carried on in the media. Reports from the training ground were that he was a nice enough guy but his training was sub standard. It was a terrible appointment that should have been realised and aborted long before it actually was, infact beating City did us absolutely no favours. I do actually believe there is probably a decent coach/manager in Selles, but its far far too early in his career to take on a situation like we are/were, and probably made it even worse that he was well liked by the players. He has been an unmitigated disaster, but tactically some of his tweaks should/could of worked if the players actually responded to them. That said.. he needs to go, and probably as soon as the last kick this season happens at the very latest. I wish him the best, but it was yet another gamble that didn’t pay off 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 The bloke is a fraud. The managerial equivalent of Ally Dia. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 10 minutes ago, Saint Billy said: The bloke is a fraud. The managerial equivalent of Ally Dia. Exactly how I see it. Like putting your PE teacher in charge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 18 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: Exactly how I see it. Like putting your PE teacher in charge. you can only climb to the top of the rope so many times.................................lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benali-shorts Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 I was travelling on Mon so had to listen to the Forest game on the radio. Danny Murphy (idiot) repeatedly banging on about how Selles was issuing far too many instructions to the players which would inevitably make them tense; and continually ridiculed the antics of one of his colleagues who kept popping up with an iPad at each of the set pieces. Notwithstanding that Murphy was playing to the gallery, he was correct in stating that the players should know what to do from set pieces by now; and that his description of the whole dug-out performance as "amateur hour" was reflective of the crass decision to put a coach in charge of a Premier League relegation battle whose previous team management experience consisted of a couple of games I/c Valencia U18s. I feel sorry for Selles - he seems a sincere and committed professional, who's been hung out to dry by being given a role for which he is far too inexperienced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 29 minutes ago, benali-shorts said: I was travelling on Mon so had to listen to the Forest game on the radio. Danny Murphy (idiot) repeatedly banging on about how Selles was issuing far too many instructions to the players which would inevitably make them tense; and continually ridiculed the antics of one of his colleagues who kept popping up with an iPad at each of the set pieces. Notwithstanding that Murphy was playing to the gallery, he was correct in stating that the players should know what to do from set pieces by now; and that his description of the whole dug-out performance as "amateur hour" was reflective of the crass decision to put a coach in charge of a Premier League relegation battle whose previous team management experience consisted of a couple of games I/c Valencia U18s. I feel sorry for Selles - he seems a sincere and committed professional, who's been hung out to dry by being given a role for which he is far too inexperienced. Ralph was forever barking instructions, seems we have a load of players who are like performing seals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 2 minutes ago, OldNick said: Ralph was forever barking instructions, seems we have a load of players who are like performing seals That’s barking mad. Once you’ve sent your lads over the top it’s up to them to know what to do. That’s what training is for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 19 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: That’s barking mad. Once you’ve sent your lads over the top it’s up to them to know what to do. That’s what training is for. Selles has rabies, all makes sense now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 34 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: That’s barking mad. Once you’ve sent your lads over the top it’s up to them to know what to do. That’s what training is for. To an extent, there is still a necessity at times to re-evaluate things mid game, Forest was a prime example of this. Tactically he set us up to trap them in their own half and carve them open, it would have probably worked but they murdered us in transition… so Id expect changes to be made, subtle or otherwise I do agree with Murphy though, maybe Selles’ pitch side demeanour is over the top, maybe he doesn’t trust that the players are able to make objective changes on their own on the pitch.. probably a bit of both Its almost certain that he is just far too green, his managerial experience is a year or so at Valencia U18s.. that just doesn’t translate into picking up a prem team, devoid of confidence or tactical aptitude in a relegation scrap.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 Seems like a nice guy who is committed. You need more than that to cut it as a manager sadly. I think we need someone with a bit of edge next year that the players will respect but also fear a little bit. They've had it too nice for too long and whoever is left needs to raise their standards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 3 hours ago, Smirking_Saint said: I do actually believe there is probably a decent coach/manager in Selles, but its far far too early in his career to take on a situation like we are/were, and probably made it even worse that he was well liked by the players. He has been an unmitigated disaster, but tactically some of his tweaks should/could of worked if the players actually responded to them. That said.. he needs to go, and probably as soon as the last kick this season happens at the very latest. I wish him the best, but it was yet another gamble that didn’t pay off I think Jones understood our issues and our softness and lack of aggression but was incapable of putting them right, he also made a bit of a tit of himself trying to explain it. Personally, I think Selles has some decent ideas and could be a good coach given time and the right players. He just imposed these ideas on the wrong set of players and in the wrong situation. Continuing to play this way made him just as stubborn as any 4-4-2 merchant from the past and ultimately it cost him a shot at next season. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 Tbh his appointment just felt a but weird too, I mean, how many situations does an appointed manager/head coach get told they have to work with any other senior coach ? Surely it just doesn’t work, the dynamics would ultimately be off Managers need teams around them that they trust, I get that, perhaps they need to be challenged on things, but not by somebody that they don’t really know.. its just odd Ill maintain I do see a good coach in him, perhaps a manager BUT he hasn’t really shown any significant attributes for that role so far, but he needs to find a team that works with, for him because this transitional nomadic role or whatever the fuck it is surely won’t provide him with a stable base that you need at this level But yeah he respects the players, and they him, but you can’t be a ‘mate’ in these situations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 9 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: To an extent, there is still a necessity at times to re-evaluate things mid game, Forest was a prime example of this. Tactically he set us up to trap them in their own half and carve them open, it would have probably worked but they murdered us in transition… so Id expect changes to be made, subtle or otherwise I do agree with Murphy though, maybe Selles’ pitch side demeanour is over the top, maybe he doesn’t trust that the players are able to make objective changes on their own on the pitch.. probably a bit of both Its almost certain that he is just far too green, his managerial experience is a year or so at Valencia U18s.. that just doesn’t translate into picking up a prem team, devoid of confidence or tactical aptitude in a relegation scrap.. The characteristic you and others are searching for and missing is "blind panic"….. I certainly wouldn't want him anywhere near the cockpit if the jet plane I was on had an engine catch fire in mid-air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 Iam a bit concerned as mad as it may be that, he is 3rd favourite for the job and the way he is talking and says he is evaluating how things have gone he may be still here next season. It is The Madness of King Ankerson that he may well do something like this!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 7 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: The characteristic you and others are searching for and missing is "blind panic"….. I certainly wouldn't want him anywhere near the cockpit if the jet plane I was on had an engine catch fire in mid-air. To be fair I wouldn’t want Pep or SAF anywhere near the cock pit either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 10 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: I think Jones understood our issues and our softness and lack of aggression but was incapable of putting them right, he also made a bit of a tit of himself trying to explain it. Personally, I think Selles has some decent ideas and could be a good coach given time and the right players. He just imposed these ideas on the wrong set of players and in the wrong situation. Continuing to play this way made him just as stubborn as any 4-4-2 merchant from the past and ultimately it cost him a shot at next season. Jones just irked fans with his comments. Tried to justify himself instead of saying 'I know I not your first choice, but I really want us to succeed' Most fans would have given him the chance, but no he had to go and say' he was the best in Europe' Why our media team let him carry on doing those car crash interviews is beyond me.. A couple of decent extra results he may have been ok. He was the one who made the decision to bring Jan back, who has been very good. If he had kept his mouth shut he may well have turned things around as like Dyche he would have made us more resilient. We really needed the get at them approach. Sadly the players gave up especially during the Forest home game and he was done. He was not my choice by a long way but I did like the thought we would at last have some grit to our play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 17 minutes ago, OldNick said: Iam a bit concerned as mad as it may be that, he is 3rd favourite for the job and the way he is talking and says he is evaluating how things have gone he may be still here next season. It is The Madness of King Ankerson that he may well do something like this!!!!! He won’t be here next season, atleast not in the head seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 21 minutes ago, OldNick said: Jones just irked fans with his comments. Tried to justify himself instead of saying 'I know I not your first choice, but I really want us to succeed' Most fans would have given him the chance, but no he had to go and say' he was the best in Europe' Why our media team let him carry on doing those car crash interviews is beyond me.. A couple of decent extra results he may have been ok. He was the one who made the decision to bring Jan back, who has been very good. If he had kept his mouth shut he may well have turned things around as like Dyche he would have made us more resilient. We really needed the get at them approach. Sadly the players gave up especially during the Forest home game and he was done. He was not my choice by a long way but I did like the thought we would at last have some grit to our play. I disagree. He was not match fit and nowhere up to speed. He cost us results over the first couple of months back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 6 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: I disagree. He was not match fit and nowhere up to speed. He cost us results over the first couple of months back. Fair point Whitey but he has now back to fitness been one of our standouts. Ironically his mistake against Wolves helped Jones lose his job. (although he was gone then already as the fans had totally lost faith) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 Selles football is like being stuck on the M25 ... ..slow moving and not getting anywhere ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 48 minutes ago, OldNick said: Fair point Whitey but he has now back to fitness been one of our standouts. Ironically his mistake against Wolves helped Jones lose his job. (although he was gone then already as the fans had totally lost faith) One thing to thank him for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said: To be fair I wouldn’t want Pep or SAF anywhere near the cock pit either. Pep probably has a pilot's licence to go with everything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Karloff Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 2 hours ago, OldNick said: Jones just irked fans with his comments. Tried to justify himself instead of saying 'I know I not your first choice, but I really want us to succeed' Most fans would have given him the chance, but no he had to go and say' he was the best in Europe' Why our media team let him carry on doing those car crash interviews is beyond me.. A couple of decent extra results he may have been ok. He was the one who made the decision to bring Jan back, who has been very good. If he had kept his mouth shut he may well have turned things around as like Dyche he would have made us more resilient. We really needed the get at them approach. Sadly the players gave up especially during the Forest home game and he was done. He was not my choice by a long way but I did like the thought we would at last have some grit to our play. I'm not so sure. Even in his more coherent moments NJ came across as a bit of a nutter. It was all front foot this and front foot that as though that was the limit of his technical acumen. I saw an interview with Kevin De Bruyne recently talking about the tactics used in a match and it was as though he was playing a different sport to NJ, such was the detail he was talking about. And he's not even a coach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 3 hours ago, Smirking_Saint said: To an extent, there is still a necessity at times to re-evaluate things mid game, Forest was a prime example of this. Tactically he set us up to trap them in their own half and carve them open, it would have probably worked but they murdered us in transition… so Id expect changes to be made, subtle or otherwise I do agree with Murphy though, maybe Selles’ pitch side demeanour is over the top, maybe he doesn’t trust that the players are able to make objective changes on their own on the pitch.. probably a bit of both Its almost certain that he is just far too green, his managerial experience is a year or so at Valencia U18s.. that just doesn’t translate into picking up a prem team, devoid of confidence or tactical aptitude in a relegation scrap.. How could anyone including Selles have thought that set up at Forest would work? He played AMN as the hybrid left back/midfield leaving Johnson with all the space in the world. Madness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 18 minutes ago, saintant said: How could anyone including Selles have thought that set up at Forest would work? He played AMN as the hybrid left back/midfield leaving Johnson with all the space in the world. Madness. Because in the attacking transition you are effectively attacking in a 3241 with AMN and Lavia in the middle, this allows you to push CA and JWP up. I think our problem was that in reality this ended up as a 2251 and we were massively disjointed… too attacking If AMN was able to spot the danger we’d of been ok, but he wasn’t, in fact he was shite both in and out of possession unfortunately 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 10 May, 2023 Share Posted 10 May, 2023 38 minutes ago, Boris Karloff said: I'm not so sure. Even in his more coherent moments NJ came across as a bit of a nutter. It was all front foot this and front foot that as though that was the limit of his technical acumen. I saw an interview with Kevin De Bruyne recently talking about the tactics used in a match and it was as though he was playing a different sport to NJ, such was the detail he was talking about. And he's not even a coach! To be fair KDB brain is a lot quicker than most football people, hence he makes up his lack of pace with brain power. I am certain that NJ was not the answer but he may have got a few more points than Selles. Whose 2 wins were down to Chelsea and Leicester being profligate in front of goal. They should both have won by a mile. All IMHO of course 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 13 May, 2023 Share Posted 13 May, 2023 He never kept us up, nor won the FA cup... Seriously, there has to be a comment from the board that he will not be remaining at the club next season. Absolute fraud of a manager. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegalEagle Posted 13 May, 2023 Share Posted 13 May, 2023 We’re down. Get rid of him now. Over the summer clear out the whole lot bar 3 or 4 and start again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 13 May, 2023 Share Posted 13 May, 2023 Worst manager in our history. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 May, 2023 Share Posted 13 May, 2023 4 minutes ago, JRM said: Worst manager in our history. Some achievement to have the worst two in our history in the same season 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 May, 2023 Share Posted 13 May, 2023 19 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: He never kept us up, nor won the FA cup... Seriously, there has to be a comment from the board that he will not be remaining at the club next season. Absolute fraud of a manager. I don’t know why you keep saying he’s a fraud of a manager. He isn’t a manager. He’s a coach who got a job managing a shit team because no one else wanted it, should never have been given it and unsurprisingly was shit at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 13 May, 2023 Share Posted 13 May, 2023 Just now, Turkish said: I don’t know why you keep saying he’s a fraud of a manager. He isn’t a manager. He’s a coach who got a job managing a shit team because no one else wanted it, should never have been given it and unsurprisingly was shit at it Very true. He was obviously being groomed to take over from Ralph this summer. Guess the pending relegation under him is now out of the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted 13 May, 2023 Share Posted 13 May, 2023 Sadly, we need two more heavy defeats to ensure he doesn't stay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenSaint Posted 13 May, 2023 Share Posted 13 May, 2023 Shit coach, shit manager needs to go now 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 13 May, 2023 Share Posted 13 May, 2023 15 minutes ago, Turkish said: I don’t know why you keep saying he’s a fraud of a manager. He isn’t a manager. He’s a coach who got a job managing a shit team because no one else wanted it, should never have been given it and unsurprisingly was shit at it Fraud of a coach then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 May, 2023 Share Posted 13 May, 2023 1 minute ago, Ed Rooney said: Fraud of a coach then Appears he’s definitely part of the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 13 May, 2023 Share Posted 13 May, 2023 Dragon Soleks thoughts after today's game 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 13 May, 2023 Share Posted 13 May, 2023 1 minute ago, Turkish said: Appears he’s definitely part of the problem Massive part of it… From 2010 he has been assistant manager at 7 clubs, until he came to us as a coach in 2022. So 12 years 7 clubs wouldn’t have filled me with confidence as an employer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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