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1 minute ago, Convict Colony said:

Ok I know now is not the time but imagine.

A clinical centre forward

A class midfielder to complement Downes

A right back called KWP

A goalie who actually can pull off a worldie save

Yep, issue for me is not Martin, it is piss poor recruitment. 

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4 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Nothing to defend. A toe-poke into the bottom corner from a few yards out. Nobody is ever going to save that.

Which doesn’t mean that I think he’s a good keeper. Just that some of you have never played football in your lives.

Well I have and that was fucking shit, he went down like a fucking old man for their second and a half-decent keeper saves their first.

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2 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Nothing to defend. A toe-poke into the bottom corner from a few yards out. Nobody is ever going to save that.

OK now I know you're just trolling. I almost forgot it's 1st April.

That was a seriously weak toe poke with no power behind it whatsoever, and Baz got absolutely nowhere near it.

That's a bread and butter save to a semi competent keeper. But he's not even that. He's fucking shite.

Stop making excuses for him and accept it. 

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2 minutes ago, James said:

Absolute bottle job. Bunch of chokers the lot of them. Can’t wait for the playoffs…

if we make them.........................................................we dominate the possession for what gain?....winding down the clock? dont finish the end product which is dominate the ball.Not clinical enough should have bought a striker,oh wait we did,didnt we?..................................

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1 minute ago, The Kraken said:

That third goal is just criminal bottling defending.

It’s absurd Russ is dicking about with Stephens in a free role when he can’t even coach the basics. 

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3 minutes ago, Chez said:

shite hold up play by AA. He just can't play that role.

...and shortly after they score.

He was out on his feet so was Stuey,both should have been subbed when Stuey went off,a game that we failed to see out again,very weak physically and mentally when put under the pump.

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The last 5 mins of injury time summed that game up.

From the start we needed to win to have any chance of automatic promotion. It's 2-2, 93rd minute and we have an attacking throw in. Literally no urgency whatsoever, we took at least half a minute to take the throw in.

Ipswich go up the other end, drive forward, put a few passes together and find a way (assisted by our ball watching defence)

That's the difference. Ipswich wanted it more.

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Just now, Convict Colony said:

Ok I know now is not the time but imagine.

A clinical centre forward

A class midfielder to complement Downes

A right back called KWP

A goalie who actually can pull off a worldie save

And a manager that can inspire a team at half time. We are always shit in the second half.

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4 minutes ago, Maggie May said:

Fair play Ipswich.  We do not have the bottle - we won’t go up for a long time.

Fair play Ipswich! They kicked us off the park and dived to get Bree sent off. We were by far the better footballing side and I know it counts for nothing. RM needs to coach some defensive stability because yet again we folded like a house of cards.

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Just now, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

WTF was Bazunu doing? That stupid quick kick with a minute on the clock. All he had to do was take his time. 

Fucking moron.

Trying to win it? A draw wasn’t enough after Fridays result. 

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1 minute ago, Farmer Saint said:

Yep, issue for me is not Martin, it is piss poor recruitment. 

I mean our marquee signing was a crocked Ross Stewart. Getting that signing wrong will possibly cost us promotion and yet our DoF is getting a new job with one of the biggest clubs in the world. It’s absolutely unbelievable.

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1 minute ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

WTF was Bazunu doing? That stupid quick kick with a minute on the clock. All he had to do was take his time. 

Fucking moron.

Bazunu may be a league 2 standard keeper but a draw wasn't enough today. We had to win to have any chance of automatic promotion.

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I feel we are all to blame. The atmosphere of the home fans is their 12th and 13th player. I have been at St marys every game this Season and never seen or heard that level of noise or support. 98% looked to show support constantly and we have huge spells where no one does anything. Are away fans did well today against that but they seemed to still be on another level.

Don't want to offend anyone but my opinion 

 

The rubbish ball around the goal and back to the keeper compiles the issue

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1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said:

Well I have and that was fucking shit, he went down like a fucking old man for their second and a half-decent keeper saves their first.

Me too. He isn't to blame for any of them.

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7 minutes ago, Saint_Jonny said:

People slate this point of view but yeah, every single time I've seen them this season they have played some sort of get out of jail free card. Done it again today. 

Saints we're the better side for the overwhelming majority of that, even with ten men. Fucking unbelievable we've thrown that away. 

Spot on. They cheated by conning the weak ref with a blatant dive.

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1 minute ago, Chez said:

Ipswich just keep going right to the end. They have won so many games late. Fair play to them.

Overall it was a great game. Thought we played pretty well. Could easily have gone our way.

Very tough result to swallow, but we just don't quite have that killer instinct. 

Automatic has gone, but we can win play off games.

Agree with you.

It was a very good advert for the Championship.

If Bednerak's header had gone in we would have won and deservedly so.

Not sure what the constant criticism  of Bazunu is all about.

The only thing I think he did wrong was wallop the ball forward in the last minute which went directly to their keeper who then recycled forward.

Just goes to show that direct football beats obsession with possession.

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9 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Nothing to defend. A toe-poke into the bottom corner from a few yards out. Nobody is ever going to save that.

Which doesn’t mean that I think he’s a good keeper. Just that some of you have never played football in your lives.

Whether or not you have played football in your lives It does not detract from the fact that Bazunu is not a good goalkeeper at the moment and has cost as points at crucial times. Even someone as evangelical as you in his defence can not credibly argue that one.

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2 minutes ago, James said:

It’s absurd Russ is dicking about with Stephens in a free role when he can’t even coach the basics. 

To be honest i thought stephens played well in that role, popped up a few times and also upfront and created a chance, he wasnt the issue today.

Its the fact we need 15 prostitutes, 25 viagra's before we can score in a brothel.

 

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Despite dominance of possession, Saints manage to squander a promising position, losing them points.

We’ve seen it so often this season. After such a solid first half, we ran out of steam in the second. Our subs offered little and our work rate dipped. Both sides work to the last whistle normally, but only Ipswich did today.

Removing Adams and Aribo left us physically light, and we were outworked and outfought as a result. Fraser’s work rate wasn’t replicated by Brooks. Edozie was involved in a lot, but created no chances of note.

With our line up, we moved away form crisp passing moves through the middle looking to create more from direct play today. But when the players that were key to that were removed, we didn’t manage to get any other system going.

We have a squad of players who are good in parts of what RM is looking for. We have quality elsewhere, that is a bit restrained by the system. And we’re seeing game after game that we’re not getting solutions to the flaws in the system or to get to a point where that possession is putting teams away.

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It looks to me like there's nobody in that team who has any belief in this system. More points chucked away in the last minute in a matter of days. There's no way this team will even reach Wembley for the play-off final. I'd suggest kicking the manager into touch right now because he clearly can't handle promotion from this league.

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Just now, James said:

I mean our marquee signing was a crocked Ross Stewart. Getting that signing wrong will possibly cost us promotion and yet our DoF is getting a new job with one of the biggest clubs in the world. It’s absolutely unbelievable.

Add a £10m Charles into that mix. Imagine if we'd have spent that money a bit better and equipped Martin with a fit striker and a better CB. We'd have easily been top. 

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3 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

OK now I know you're just trolling. I almost forgot it's 1st April.

That was a seriously weak toe poke with no power behind it whatsoever, and Baz got absolutely nowhere near it.

That's a bread and butter save to a semi competent keeper. But he's not even that. He's fucking shite.

Stop making excuses for him and accept it. 

The ‘seriously weak toe poke’ hit the side netting.

I am not excusing him. It’s just that very, very few keepers would have saved those goals.

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6 minutes ago, Mr Saints said:

Bollocks. 

They are very cuntish but hope they get top two. They will dick us in the play offs.

I would love it if we beat them at Wembley in the Play-Off Final, fucking love it. Cheating bunch of farmers.,

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Just now, Whitey Grandad said:

The ‘seriously weak toe poke’ hit the side netting.

I am not excusing him. It’s just that very, very few keepers would have saved those goals.

He should've saved the second tbh 

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5 minutes ago, SaintNewForest said:

Poor sibs cost us (again) today.

Play-offs it is, where we'll bottle that chance as well.

Any thoughts on why Bednarek wasn't replaced after his injury?                                                                                                                            His mobility was impaired and it all went downhill after leaving him on.

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2 minutes ago, James said:

I mean our marquee signing was a crocked Ross Stewart. Getting that signing wrong will possibly cost us promotion and yet our DoF is getting a new job with one of the biggest clubs in the world. It’s absolutely unbelievable.

Agree, stewart as a bargain bin risk but that was becuase our main issue was FFP this year due to the previous years hail mary expenditure in Jan, next year we will have loads of leeway.

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6 minutes ago, saintant said:

Fair play Ipswich! They kicked us off the park and dived to get Bree sent off. We were by far the better footballing side and I know it counts for nothing. RM needs to coach some defensive stability because yet again we folded like a house of cards.

None of it counts for anything when you have a goalkeeper who's going to gift goals to the opposition. It was the same last season.You just know we're going to be stuck with him next season as well. If only we'd had a half-decent goalkeeper, what might have been. 

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Just now, gallaghert366@yahoo.com said:

Any thoughts on why Bednarek wasn't replaced after his injury?                                                                                                                            His mobility was impaired and it all went downhill after leaving him on.

Probably because we’d have had to move Jack Beckenbauer out of the free role…

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Decent first half but never ever really looked like winning the game. Our first thought all the time is to go backwards, backwards, backwards, Ipswich is the complete opposite.   It's not the first time that I've pointed out how good they are, and they proved it again tonight.   They just keep going and never give up, they were never going to lose that game.  One this season is over its time to bin the possession at all costs football and get somebody in who understands that winning is all important, not pretty football which achieves the square root of nothing.  I'm not to disappointed to be honest because I never expected anything from this game, playoffs will be interesting, but playing the way we do is not the way to win those either.  Decent game, shit result, all too familiar this season. 

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2 minutes ago, Oldandtired said:

Whether or not you have played football in your lives It does not detract from the fact that Bazunu is not a good goalkeeper at the moment and has cost as points at crucial times. Even someone has evangelical as you in his defence can not credibly argue that one.

I agree. He’s not a great keeper. Neither he nor any other keeper could have saved this today though.

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6 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

WTF was Bazunu doing? That stupid quick kick with a minute on the clock. All he had to do was take his time. 

Fucking moron.

going for the win perhaps? A draw didn't really help us. 

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6 minutes ago, Maggie May said:

Fair play Ipswich.  We do not have the bottle - we won’t go up for a long time.

Exactly. Saints will be lucky to challenge for the top 6 next season. Downes, THB, Fraser, Rothwell & Brooks will leave, then there's the likes of KWP, Stu, Che, Edozie and possibly Smallbone who won't stay another 12 months. 

There's a massive rebuild on the cards. 

Get used to trips down the road to play the skates and being like just Coventry City, Norwich or Bristol City. Saints will be championship team for years to come. 

Never should have appointed Martin. He's just turned us in to Swansea City. 

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6 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Yep, issue for me is not Martin, it is piss poor recruitment. 

It is Martin all over…. We concede because we do not mark up at all! 
We concede too many goals through non existent defensive coaching and Bazunu. (Bree is dreadful I agree and that is recruiting… 

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1 minute ago, Nordic Saint said:

None of it counts for anything when you have a goalkeeper who's going to gift goals to the opposition. It was the same last season. If only we'd had a half-decent goalkeeper these last couple of years, what might have been.

Would’ve made no difference. We would have been relegated and we would be where we are.

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2 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

Ipswich win that because they have three things we don’t - guts, a decent keeper and decent strikers.

That's the top and bottom of it one to stop it going in and one to put it in---that's all we need--simple!

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9 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

WTF was Bazunu doing? That stupid quick kick with a minute on the clock. All he had to do was take his time. 

Fucking moron.

We needed a win to realistically stay in the autos race, and a loss isn’t going to knock us out of the playoffs.

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7 minutes ago, James said:

I mean our marquee signing was a crocked Ross Stewart. Getting that signing wrong will possibly cost us promotion and yet our DoF is getting a new job with one of the biggest clubs in the world. It’s absolutely unbelievable.

Yeah but that sort of signing makes him ideal for Utd

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Just now, captainchris said:

It is Martin all over…. We concede because we do not mark up at all! 
We concede too many goals through non existent defensive coaching and Bazunu. (Bree is dreadful I agree and that is recruiting… 

Oh, yeah, so you've seen him training them not to mark up? Maybe, again, our CB's are just a bit shit. We know Bednarek is shit, and we know Stephens is shit and everyone was saying earlier in the season about how shit Bree is, and Manning. Maybe we just have shit defenders who don't do as they are told. 

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