goodymatt Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago That article suggests Downes is in discussions with Rangers but I don’t see how they afford him?
Dusic Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 13 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: The price suggested for Dibling is mad. Harvey Elliot will likely be available for no more than that, and he is much more of a proven player Its not just about now. Dibling has a much higher ceiling IMO and I can see him eventually being a top player at a big club. Elliot is a decent player but is being let go by a big club because he hasnt been able to properly break through after a number of years. Before this tournament they would have done well to get £30m for him I think. Dibling is probably our best academy talent since Shaw so we should clewrly be trying to get as much as we possibly can for him, eapecially when players like Quansah cost upwards of £40m and Jobe Bellingham £30m - he is miles better than both. 3
Fabrice29 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 4 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said: You can still go missing in games and provide assists..... Writing a reply to this actually hurt my head so yeah sure. More of those players please. 15 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: The price suggested for Dibling is mad. Harvey Elliot will likely be available for no more than that, and he is much more of a proven player except, that’s not how valuations work because one of those two players will presumably be of use to their current club next season and one likely won’t.
Dusic Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, goodymatt said: That article suggests Downes is in discussions with Rangers but I don’t see how they afford him? Whole article seems pretty speculative but if they can pay £20m and match his wages then fair enough. 1
SambaMaverick Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 2 minutes ago, goodymatt said: That article suggests Downes is in discussions with Rangers but I don’t see how they afford him? They are about to sell Igamane for a decent chunk, their first good sale for years. But wages are a total no-go at the moment, only way it could happen is if they qualify for Champions League and we won't know that until later on in the summer.
ErwinK1961 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 24 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Rangers can’t afford Downes. KWP doesn’t play here anymore. Dibling is never going for £65m No team in Turkey is ever paying the money for THB. No chance Fernandes is going to Leeds. Other than that, great article. 4 21
LeBizzier69 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: Writing a reply to this actually hurt my head so yeah sure. More of those players please. except, that’s not how valuations work because one of those two players will presumably be of use to their current club next season and one likely won’t. More players who have can offer the odd assist but not much else? Think the game's moved on a bit since those days.
Midfield_General Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 17 minutes ago, Dusic said: Whole article seems pretty speculative but if they can pay £20m and match his wages then fair enough. Which they can't. He's a £20m-£25m player under contract until 2028. Their all-time transfer record paid is £12m, and that was 25 years ago when they were good and had money. Apparently he was also on £30k per week last season, so if goes he's going to want to increase that. He's 26 now, so he's got probably 5 years left to maximise his earning potential. No way can Rangers compete with what even the relegation bait down here would be able to offer him. It's TeamTalk. It's bollocks, just rehashing other clickbait stories that were made-up in the first place. Downes may well leave, but it 100% won't be to Rangers. It's almost as absurd as people suggesting Rangers could come in for Ramsdale. Look at who Rangers actually sign, what they pay for them and the wages they pay. It just has no basis in reality whatsoever. Edited 6 hours ago by Midfield_General 6
S-Clarke Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 40 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Reads like a massive guess-work article to me. 3
LordHester Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 12 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: Rangers can’t afford Downes. KWP doesn’t play here anymore. Dibling is never going for £65m No team in Turkey is ever paying the money for THB. No chance Fernandes is going to Leeds. Other than that, great article. Yeah, that's what I thought too. Speculation written for clicks.
Oldandtired Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago See Kepa's gone to Arsenal. Does this mean Bournemouth will now need a new keeper, one who's already on the south coast and has good mates at the club?
AlexLaw76 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: Writing a reply to this actually hurt my head so yeah sure. More of those players please. except, that’s not how valuations work because one of those two players will presumably be of use to their current club next season and one likely won’t. Eze will go for similar amounts to what is suggested for Dibling. 1
Rebel Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 22 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: Rangers can’t afford Downes. KWP doesn’t play here anymore. Dibling is never going for £65m No team in Turkey is ever paying the money for THB. No chance Fernandes is going to Leeds. Other than that, great article. now if they'd said Rangers and Martin are talking to Ross Stewart and Ryan Fraser it would've been a bit more believable. 2
James Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 33 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: Rangers can’t afford Downes. KWP doesn’t play here anymore. Dibling is never going for £65m No team in Turkey is ever paying the money for THB. No chance Fernandes is going to Leeds. Other than that, great article. Why on earth would any of our players consider a move to Leeds? They’ll be back down here in a year.
MarkSFC Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Ramsdale made quite a big deal of "being on the south coast" when he signed last year. For this reason alone, I believe he might actually stay, but I wonder whether Bournemouth will either loan or sign him. Signing will take 30m I imagine. Loaning is probabaly the best outcome for all parties. I just hope we have a complete refresh of goalkeepers and find a way of getting rid of AMC and Bazunu too. Possibly an experienced loaned this year as main man, with a couple of up and coming ones who could play this season if needed. And then if we go back up next summer AR returns, loaned GK goes back, and the other two might be good backups. If not address it then. If we do not go back up immediately, sell AR, and go from there. Year two will be much harder financially unless we've maximised sales this summer.
spyinthesky Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 17 minutes ago, James said: Why on earth would any of our players consider a move to Leeds? They’ll be back down here in a year. Money dear boy, money. If all the speculation is correct the current squad will suffer a 40-50% reduction in their wages. Anyone going to a Prem club should at least maintain their current renumeration and possibly get a decent signing on fee.
skintsaint Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Saint NL said: And people reckon we'll get £50m+ for Dibling. Last season: Elliott : 18 PL Games 1 goal 2 Assists Dibling: 33 PL Games 2 goals 2 Assists Seeing as Elliott was striding out for a rampant Liverpool while Dibling was slogging it out with us suggest we are probably about right in our valuation. Not to mention Dibling is 2.5 years younger I think. 9
Fabrice29 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, skintsaint said: Last season: Elliott : 18 PL Games 1 goal 2 Assists Dibling: 33 PL Games 2 goals 2 Assists Seeing as Elliott was striding out for a rampant Liverpool while Dibling was slogging it out with us suggest we are probably about right in our valuation. Not to mention Dibling is 2.5 years younger I think. And Elliot presumably isn’t wanted or needed at Liverpool right now unlike Dibling. 48 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Eze will go for similar amounts to what is suggested for Dibling. Let’s see that happen first shall we? There’s no further money to be made from Eze after his next move unlike Dibling to be fair.
Toussaint Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 46 minutes ago, Rebel said: now if they'd said Rangers and Martin are talking to Ross Stewart and Ryan Fraser it would've been a bit more believable. Not to mention Small Willbone 1 3
AlexLaw76 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 32 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: And Elliot presumably isn’t wanted or needed at Liverpool right now unlike Dibling. Let’s see that happen first shall we? There’s no further money to be made from Eze after his next move unlike Dibling to be fair. Let see what happens? well of course, otherwise may as well shut down all football forums
skintsaint Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 6 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: well of course, otherwise may as well shut down all football forums Would that mean we would have to go outside?
Midfield_General Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, Rebel said: now if they'd said Rangers and Martin are talking to Ross Stewart and Ryan Fraser it would've been a bit more believable. Quite. I could definitely see deadwood like Fraser going there, because we'd almost certainly want rid and it could easily be the best (or only) offer he'd get. Which is very different to them realistically competing for much better players that other, much more well-off clubs might actually want. Edited 2 hours ago by Midfield_General
disconnect Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Ryan Fraser to Rangers would be very believable. A manager who likes him, a big club in an easier league that will suit his ability - he could be a good player for them, rather than a bit part for us. 1
saintant Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, Dusic said: Its not just about now. Dibling has a much higher ceiling IMO and I can see him eventually being a top player at a big club. Elliot is a decent player but is being let go by a big club because he hasnt been able to properly break through after a number of years. Before this tournament they would have done well to get £30m for him I think. Dibling is probably our best academy talent since Shaw so we should clewrly be trying to get as much as we possibly can for him, eapecially when players like Quansah cost upwards of £40m and Jobe Bellingham £30m - he is miles better than both. Still not sure what Dibling has shown that make people so sure he is a future super star. 2 1
saintant Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, MarkSFC said: Ramsdale made quite a big deal of "being on the south coast" when he signed last year. For this reason alone, I believe he might actually stay, but I wonder whether Bournemouth will either loan or sign him. Signing will take 30m I imagine. Loaning is probabaly the best outcome for all parties. I just hope we have a complete refresh of goalkeepers and find a way of getting rid of AMC and Bazunu too. Possibly an experienced loaned this year as main man, with a couple of up and coming ones who could play this season if needed. And then if we go back up next summer AR returns, loaned GK goes back, and the other two might be good backups. If not address it then. If we do not go back up immediately, sell AR, and go from there. Year two will be much harder financially unless we've maximised sales this summer. 30m for Ramsdale?
MarkSFC Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 6 minutes ago, saintant said: 30m for Ramsdale? I'd think at least that to make it worth our while. Maybe 30m plus Brooks. 1 2
qwertyell Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, skintsaint said: Last season: Elliott : 18 PL Games 1 goal 2 Assists Dibling: 33 PL Games 2 goals 2 Assists Seeing as Elliott was striding out for a rampant Liverpool while Dibling was slogging it out with us suggest we are probably about right in our valuation. Not to mention Dibling is 2.5 years younger I think. He's in a tricky space, Elliott. He's not quick enough to be a winger. Not physical enough to play deeper. And not dynamic enough to play as a 10. And yet he's a really talented footballer. Albeit with noodles for hair. I suspect he's destined for a career of mid-table mediocrity in a West Ham or a Fulham.
Farmer Saint Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) If anyone is in Teddington tonight and wants to meet some players (or wants to pretend to be someone to get some drinks), then here is the list of who can charge to the Saints account... Oh, and this means there are transfer negotiations ongoing... Edited 27 minutes ago by Farmer Saint 3 1
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 9 minutes ago, qwertyell said: I suspect he's destined for a career of mid-table mediocrity in a West Ham or a Fulham. Probably end up like Smith Rowe at Fulham, leave a huge club but still have a decentish career. 2
CampionSaint Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 30 minutes ago, MarkSFC said: I'd think at least that to make it worth our while. Maybe 30m plus Brooks. Doesn't he have a £25m release clause ?
Fabrice29 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: Let see what happens? well of course, otherwise may as well shut down all football forums Well otherwise you're confused about something that hasn't happened. 47 minutes ago, saintant said: Still not sure what Dibling has shown that make people so sure he is a future super star. Maybe the 4th most minutes and 5th most starts of any teenager in the most elite league in the world has something to do with it? The only 3 above him for minutes play for Real Madrid, Newcastle and City now. 1
Badger Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: If anyone is in Teddington tonight and wants to meet some players (or wants to pretend to be someone to get some drinks), then here is the list of who can charge to the Saints account... Oh, and this means there are transfer negotiations ongoing... Three things noted there. 1. Contrary to rumours and comments on here, Elliot Staplely is considered old enough to drink. 2.No mention of Lallana. Hope he doesn't start throwing his Alice band around in a tantrum. 3. Who the fuck is this Clement bloke? Quick Google and he is a video analyst. Didn't we just get rid of one ?
saintant Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Just now, Fabrice29 said: Well otherwise you're confused about something that hasn't happened. Maybe the 4th most minutes and 5th most starts of any teenager in the most elite league in the world has something to do with it? The only 3 above him for minutes play for Real Madrid, Newcastle and City now. Lots of game time but I'm struggling to recall many times he excited the crowd. Maybe I'm missing something. Not saying he won't make it and hope he does.
Fabrice29 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Just now, saintant said: Lots of game time but I'm struggling to recall many times he excited the crowd. Maybe I'm missing something. Not saying he won't make it and hope he does. Why would you expect him to excite the crowd "many" times? 18 and in a shit team that since Xmas wasn't set up to play to his strengths. There's only 4 teenagers who scored more than him in the PL and 3 of those are older than him and 3 of those had played in the PL before unlike Tyler whilst the other had played for Roma and now plays for Madrid. I don't actually think it's that hard to see why people rate him highly.
saintant Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: Why would you expect him to excite the crowd "many" times? 18 and in a shit team that since Xmas wasn't set up to play to his strengths. There's only 4 teenagers who scored more than him in the PL and 3 of those are older than him and 3 of those had played in the PL before unlike Tyler whilst the other had played for Roma and now plays for Madrid. I don't actually think it's that hard to see why people rate him highly. On the one hand you ask why I would expect Tyler to excite the crowd and, on the other hand, you say you don't think it's hard to see why people rate him highly.
Fabrice29 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Just now, saintant said: On the one hand you ask why I would expect Tyler to excite the crowd and, on the other hand, you say you don't think it's hard to see why people rate him highly. He's doing exceptional things for a kid his age. If you aren't excited by that or you expect more, considering his age, experience and the team he was in, then that is on you. 3
beatlesaint Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Missed out on Rothwell, he’s off to play Russball in Scotland 😂
ErwinK1961 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 43 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: If anyone is in Teddington tonight and wants to meet some players (or wants to pretend to be someone to get some drinks), then here is the list of who can charge to the Saints account... Oh, and this means there are transfer negotiations ongoing... Does it? Or just staff getting their heads together to discuss plans.
Farmer Saint Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: Does it? Or just staff getting their heads together to discuss plans. Well, my mate who's an agent sent me the photo, so I'd say not... 1
ErwinK1961 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 28 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: Well, my mate who's an agent sent me the photo, so I'd say not... Fair enough! I just didn’t see any COT members on the list, so assumed it wasn’t 😉 2
Farmer Saint Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: Fair enough! I just didn’t see any COT members on the list, so assumed it wasn’t 😉 I tendered my resignation from the CoT last January due to the amount of abuse aimed at us. What's the phrase, "don't bite the hand that feeds you".
benjii Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said: If anyone is in Teddington tonight and wants to meet some players (or wants to pretend to be someone to get some drinks), then here is the list of who can charge to the Saints account... Oh, and this means there are transfer negotiations ongoing... Seaside B&B. 2
lambtiss Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said: Well, my mate who's an agent sent me the photo, so I'd say not... Well, he's an agent you can certainly trust with sensitive transfer information. 1
Weston Super Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, lambtiss said: Well, he's an agent you can certainly trust with sensitive transfer information. They're always the best ones.
SW5 SAINT Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, Farmer Saint said: If anyone is in Teddington tonight and wants to meet some players (or wants to pretend to be someone to get some drinks), then here is the list of who can charge to the Saints account... Oh, and this means there are transfer negotiations ongoing... At least Ankerson isn’t included…… 1 1
Farmer Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 20 minutes ago, lambtiss said: Well, he's an agent you can certainly trust with sensitive transfer information. What, taking a picture of a receipt printer to show me where he was? Really?
Doctoroncall Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: What, taking a picture of a receipt printer to show me where he was? Really? Oh, players come with receipts now? 28 day refund or exchange?
woodsaint1 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 25 minutes ago, SW5 SAINT said: At least Ankerson isn’t included…… Hes on the Zoom link 1
lambtiss Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 19 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: What, taking a picture of a receipt printer to show me where he was? Really? You seemed to be intimating that the leaked list of names who could charge to Spors account came from an agent?
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