Blackburn 2-1 Saints - Match Threads

[saintant]

14 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

Get Wagner in. Experience in this league, harshly sacked by Norwich.

It's SR that need to be gone. They are sucking the life blood out of this football club. Who would trust them to appoint a decent manager if they sack Still? While they continue to run the club we are fucked and nothing will change. The head of the snake has to be severed to stop the poison.

Edited 16 hours ago by saintant

[Midfield_General]

2 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

Still looks sick in this post match interview. He knows what's coming

Immediate unemployment, hopefully

[Saint NL]

Just now, RedArmy said:

Has the still got that gormless “this normally works on football manager, I don’t understand” expression? 

He said he's been doing this a long time and he'll keep doing it until someone tells him to stop.

 

It's not immediately clear what "it" is though.

[saintant]

16 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

Scienza aside this was one of the worst games of football I have watched this season. Was like a watching a match between two relegation candidates.

What the fuck has happened to our club seriously? The downfall has been rapid. 

We looked so unorganised and disjointed, our midfield is nonexistent and so easy to bypass.

Game management and substitutes absolute comical, the moment that killed the game was taking off Scienza......

I literally sat and went we're fucked now and you straight away could see Blackburn growing in confidence and running through our non existent midfield. 

Absolute diabolical I don't know where we go from here. 

It's called Sports Republic and we can thank Martin Semmens for where we find ourselves.

Edited 16 hours ago by saintant

[Window Cleaner]

Still's reputation is built basically on one season at Reims. He had two lightning fast wingers, both Japanese and Balogun to finish it off. Then he went and got coaching certificates and the magic disappeared.

[Dr Who?]

3 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

He said he's been doing this a long time and he'll keep doing it until someone tells him to stop.

 

It's not immediately clear what "it" is though.

Please STOP 🛑 

[Saint_clark]

Stills interview;

"Same story different day, should be 3 up, then we make mistakes and defend poorly that cost us goals. 

(About Scienza) I can understand fans frustration, we know a lot of players who can't play 3 games in a week, Shea wasn't supposed to but had to and now he's injured. I'd rather take Leo off than have him injured for three months, but it backfired and didn't work. 

We're in a really poor position in the league with a lot of things to work on and improve. 

It's gotta be someone's fault, it's the way the world works that I'll be under pressure. I know the team should be killing games off and winning these games and we haven't gone and done it. 

Shea's out for a long while now, need to get a few back from illness, but most importantly we need to work on putting it in the net. 

I'm not gonna stop, until someone tells me to. I think the last few games we've had the game under control and just not killed them off."

Wish Blackmore pushed him harder on Stephens coming on and the thinking behind it. Why not go like for like and keep an attacking outlet up top if Leo needs to come off?

[trousers]

Why the f*** have we got "lots" of players that can't last 3 x 90 minutes. FFS

 

Edited 16 hours ago by trousers

[Convict Colony]

Honestly if he hadnt taken Leo off the other game (think it was derby) when he was a best player and done the same again today i would be more patient but honestly that decision cannot be explained.

Its like he's trying to be too clever for our team and for this league.

[Saint_clark]

1 minute ago, trousers said:

Why the f*** have we got "lots" of players that can't last 90 minutes. FFS

 

Read it again. Three 90 minutes in a week is what he said. 

[die Mannyschaft]

An excellent result as it confirms to all Saints fans that the level of players existing and new are at relegation level. What a waste of parachute payment money. £40m on boring players bar one. Could have subsided season and match day, away tickets and travel. 

We're so shit it's unbelievable. 

Still out! Nonsense football out!

New players in or cheaper tickets for over priced boring negative football. 

[trousers]

2 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Read it again. Three 90 minutes in a week is what he said. 

Yeah, sorry, mis-read that, but even so... Do all championship sides have to take off their best player half way through the second half when the match isn't won yet...?

Edited 16 hours ago by trousers

[die Mannyschaft]

Just now, Convict Colony said:

Honestly if he hadnt taken Leo off the other game (think it was derby) when he was a best player and done the same again today i would be more patient but honestly that decision cannot be explained.

Its like he's trying to be too clever for our team and for this league.

No manager should ever think of taking best players off unless injured in tackle. 

[East Kent Saint]

I'm Joining most of the players and giving up .......

[LuckyNumber7]

Stephens for Scienza, when we already had three centre backs on the pitch, is the worst substitution I've ever seen. Still should be sacked for that alone. Absolute shambles of a performance against a really poor team.

[Winnersaint]

If not Still, then who? Any managers out there available?

[SaintTex]

Seriously, my son often plays 4 matches in weekend tournaments. 
 

not sure how professionals got so fragile. 

[Baird of the land]

If Shea wasn’t supposed to play 3 full games then that makes still’s decision to leave cm’s at home even more daft. 
 

also in whatbizarro world should we have been 3 nil up.

Edited 16 hours ago by Baird of the land

[die Mannyschaft]

5 minutes ago, Window Cleaner said:

Still's reputation is built basically on one season at Reims. He had two lightning fast wingers, both Japanese and Balogun to finish it off. Then he went and got coaching certificates and the magic disappeared.

French leaque doesn't compare to English football as much tougher, Bundesliga 2 is like leaque 1.

[Saint_clark]

Just now, trousers said:

Yeah, sorry, mis-read that, but even so... 

I'm from the school of thought that they're professionals and should be able to, but Shea getting injured kind of proves his point. 

And Leo isn't exactly well built, I can see him running out of steam. 

It's just bringing on Stephens for him that was fucking indefensible. Even if he'd brought on the young lad up top, put Fraser on the left and Armstrong back out right it would have made more sense. Stephens just ran around in circles looking confused, I'm not sure he made a single tackle or pass.

[HarvSFC]

Lambert, Hammond, Fonte, Schneiderlin, etc. Had no problem doing three 90s a week. Back in the day when you only got three subs a match then and could only take five on a match day, so the squad were actually physically fit. 

[die Mannyschaft]

1 minute ago, East Kent Saint said:

I'm Joining most of the players and giving up .......

I think they gave up v Pompey , certainly looked like it to me.

[macca155]

I cannot even begin to fathom those substitutions. Sure we weren't playing well but 1 0 up is 1 0 up. By tomorrow that would have been an ok performance.... after a whiskey or 3

Blackburn were all at sea, bereft of ideas and the crowd had turned on them.

On comes Stewart, ineffective in the last two games for Archer. So an already weakened midfield is under more pressure. Bring on Bragg to support Charles.

Then Stephens for Scienza, beggars belief. If Leo was tired, fair enough, replace him with Jay Robinson. How on earth would Jack improve things.

Still upset the structure, balance, and morale of the team. It has zero resilience anyway.

I think he's lost the dressing room. Players falling for mystery illnesses, strikes me as a convenient excuse, to mask trouble at t'mill. They may be telling Still what they think of him. Good old Jack was probably one of the few who would take the field.

We're the hell is Aribo, we need him urgently.

I'm really against sacking managers early, it rarely helps (look at our history). However I'm struggling to see how Still can survive that sort of ineptitude.

[Zorba]

Think Jack misunderstood Will’s directions when he said “You have to mark Morishita”.

[Convict Colony]

3 minutes ago, SaintTex said:

Seriously, my son often plays 4 matches in weekend tournaments. 
 

not sure how professionals got so fragile. 

does he play upfront ? can he score ?

[Saint Scott]

5 minutes ago, die Mannyschaft said:

An excellent result as it confirms to all Saints fans that the level of players existing and new are at relegation level. What a waste of parachute payment money. £40m on boring players bar one. Could have subsided season and match day, away tickets and travel. 

We're so shit it's unbelievable. 

Still out! Nonsense football out!

New players in or cheaper tickets for over priced boring negative football. 

Disagree. They're being mismanaged, played out of position and hooked for no reason

They must shoulder some blame for performances but Will Still is the main culprit

[aintforever]

13 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

Still looks sick in this post match interview. He knows what's coming

Makes a change from the gormless, confused expression on his face whilst stood on the touch line watching his team get out outplayed.

[OneMrsWallace]

2 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Read it again. Three 90 minutes in a week is what he said. 

Seriously? At professional level? That's just as pathetic. Woeful situation. It happens a lot in this league, he knew that and he hasn't prepared the squad accordingly. And he fucked up the subs too so there is zero reason to keep him. 

[beatlesaint]

Taking Leo off isn’t so much the issue. Had he made a like for like change then fair enough. But to bring on Captain twat of all people? Sorry, just no !!!!!

[die Mannyschaft]

9 minutes ago, Winnersaint said:

If not Still, then who? Any managers out there available?

We would play better with no manager

[spyinthesky]

9 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

If Shea wasn’t supposed to play 3 full games then that makes still’s decision to leave cm’s at home even more daft. 
 

also in whatbizarro world should we have been 3 nil up.

But to be fair Shea Charles also played a couple of games for N Ireland during this time

[macca155]

3 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

Taking Leo off isn’t so much the issue. Had he made a like for like change then fair enough. But to bring on Captain twat of all people? Sorry, just no !!!!!

It's not Jack's fault either. If he had replaced Quarshie for the last 20 mins, that would have been understood. He's played ok in that position, and would have been able to dictate a bit to the other players. 

As I said before Still probably didn't have anyone else prepared to come.

[derry]

Another self inflicted shambles. It wasn't great then Archer was injured. Substitute Fraser, what was that supposed to do except concede up front. Then the self inflicted,  Stephens on Scienza our best player off. That really put Blackburn on the front foot. We were rabbits in the headlights so three more substitutions, that really stitched us up like a kipper. No shape no idea and there for the taking.

I think the manager panicked. Robinson should have replaced Archer. That would have increased the pressure on Blackburn not lifted it. Scienza should have been left on and Stephens should have stayed on the bench. Wellington for Manning was just tinkering whilst Bragg made no sense at all.

We lost all shape, conceded two rediculous goals whilst again squandering two clear chances. Armstrong trying to repeat last weeks dink, of course the keeper was ready for it. If Still wants to reinvent the wheel then do it somewhere else. The team was barely balanced but the manager proceeded to turn it into a shapeless shambles. Whatever substitutions are made have to keep balance and shape, ours destroyed the balance and the shape.

One thing I forgot to say, we are totally incompetent playing three centrebacks allowing opponents to run through the gaps. This team is crying out for 4-4-2. Ie.Roerslev, Wood, Quarshie, Manning, Fellows, Jander. Downes, Scienza, Azaz and Armstrong/Robinson. That's assuming that Charles, Archer, Wellington, are out for the next month or so. As for the goalkeeper I think McCarthy showed today he's not the answer. Reaction saves and killer soft goals whilst totally inept in possession.

Edited 14 hours ago by derry

[Thripp87]

On the way home now. Still’s decision to sub off Scienza on 68 mins is the worst substitution I have seen made since watching saints in 1994.

Absolute joke, no doubt now we are in a relegation dog fight.

[die Mannyschaft]

7 minutes ago, macca155 said:

I cannot even begin to fathom those substitutions. Sure we weren't playing well but 1 0 up is 1 0 up. By tomorrow that would have been an ok performance.... after a whiskey or 3

Blackburn were all at sea, bereft of ideas and the crowd had turned on them.

On comes Stewart, ineffective in the last two games for Archer. So an already weakened midfield is under more pressure. Bring on Bragg to support Charles.

Then Stephens for Scienza, beggars belief. If Leo was tired, fair enough, replace him with Jay Robinson. How on earth would Jack improve things.

Still upset the structure, balance, and morale of the team. It has zero resilience anyway.

I think he's lost the dressing room. Players falling for mystery illnesses, strikes me as a convenient excuse, to mask trouble at t'mill. They may be telling Still what they think of him. Good old Jack was probably one of the few who would take the field.

We're the hell is Aribo, we need him urgently.

I'm really against sacking managers early, it rarely helps (look at our history). However I'm struggling to see how Still can survive that sort of ineptitude.

Its the worst football I've seen in over 40 years, nonsense tactics, stupid subs beyond belief. Its as though there are bonuses for letting goals in and failing to shoot and it target. Has someone in the club put £50,000 on relegation.

[badgerx16]

How will we replace Archer's goals ?

[redkeith]

I only saw bits of this on my phone, as I was at a village meal. Didn't look in control at all,  but they were not good. Just as I got up to leave we conceded the first,  but think that any other clubs keeper would have saved it. By the time we got in the car Saints had inevitably let in the 2nd. 

I don't know what the answer is. Still can't seem to get a tune out of some talented players, but the squad has no spine and no balance. The talk in the summer was of needing power and pace  but other than Quashee, we haven't delivered.  

If Charles is out for a while, we are fucked. 

Any manager that comes in needs to have a promise of whichever goale, defensive central midfield and center forward that he wants to make a team work. 

ThB, Stephens, Flyn Downes and Aribo need ditching. Shit attitude the lot of them. 

As for Rasmus and if it is not broken , consider breaking it. It is well and truly fucked now.  As and old school IT man, I can't  relate to that Web developer bollocks.  

Rasmus has taken a steady mid Pl team and turned it into one of Musk`s rockets ! 

Wish I could cut Saints off and just follow Real Socieadad instead, but football  is not like that . 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[hypochondriac]

Lallana can fuck off as well.

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, redkeith said:

I only saw bits of this on my phone, as I was at a village meal. Didn't look in control at all,  but they were not good. Just as I got up to leave we conceded the first,  but think that any other clubs keeper would have saved it. By the time we got in the car Saints had inevitably let in the 2nd. 

I don't know what the answer is. Still can't seem to get a tune out of some talented players, but the squad has no spine and no balance. The talk in the summer was of needing power and pace  but other than Quashee, we haven't delivered.  

If Charles is out for a while, we are fucked. 

Any manager that comes in needs to have a promise of whichever goale, defensive central midfield and center forward that he wants to make a team work. 

ThB, Stephens, Flyn Downes and Aribo need ditching. Shit attitude the lot of them. 

As for Rasmus and if it is not broken , consider breaking it. It is well and truly fucked now.  As and old school IT man, I can't  relate to that Web developer bollocks.  

Rasmus has taken a steady mid Pl team and turned it into one of Musk`s rockets ! 

Wish I could cut Saints off and just follow Real Socieadad instead, but football  is not like that . 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In what way has Aribo displayed a shit attitude?

[Saint_clark]

2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Lallana can fuck off as well.

Still annoyed that we allowed ourselves to be used for one last prem payday after the way that prick acted to get his move to Liverpool.

[LGTL]

2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

In what way has Aribo displayed a shit attitude?

Yeah I’m not having that. The treatment of him and Edozie has been a disgrace really. 

[ecuk268]

16 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

If Shea wasn’t supposed to play 3 full games then that makes still’s decision to leave cm’s at home even more daft. 
 

also in whatbizarro world should we have been 3 nil up.

Armstrong through on goal twice. Hits the keeper with one and the post with the other.

[Baz Fl]

I was so happy to see the end of last season because it was awful as a Saints fan and that this season I could at least see us win some games but it’s almost feeling identical as our Prem disaster. We are broken guys well and truly and it’s now about avoiding another relegation. SR have perfected getting it wrong!

[Baird of the land]

1 minute ago, ecuk268 said:

Armstrong through on goal twice. Hits the keeper with one and the post with the other.

Yeah but that’s ignoring all their chances.

[IronCitySaint]

Thanks for the all the wonderful entertainment, Sports Republic. Now piss off and ruin another club. Oh, and take all the other losers with you on the way out. I seriously think it is some kind of wild "achievement" to make this team play as ineptly as this. Players and managers come and go and yet it is the same formation and same monstrous performances week after week. I can't see anything other than this being dictated from above, which is why no serious manager will come here, and the downward spiral will continue until these frauds are gone.

[Topcat]

18 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

Lambert, Hammond, Fonte, Schneiderlin, etc. Had no problem doing three 90s a week. Back in the day when you only got three subs a match then and could only take five on a match day, so the squad were actually physically fit. 

But in our Championship promotion winning season, these were tried and tested senior players, not kids new to English football.

[die Mannyschaft]

4 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

How will we replace Archer's goals ?

Plenty decent strikers in lower divisions, even tier 7-8. I just cant believe no one at Saints is capable or got the initiative to go and watch a load of matches and identify a goal scorer.

Could of had a competition for anyone to submit a video clip of a goal scorer in action from Championship to step 11. Any player then signed give the person £50k for scouting thd player.

[die Mannyschaft]

34 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Unfortunately for him there's nothing he can do or say that can excuse those substitutions.

xG in the morning you're xG in the morning 

[madge]

Absolutely fecking embarrassing. SR surely can’t expect this level of performance after the outlay in the summer. Yet another terrible decision to being in still who looks absolutely lost and has no idea how to turn this around. But SR are totally to blame as is our owner who can quite frankly do one!! Fans must turn on SR and drive these cunts out the club..

need a manager to unite the fans. Ralph or Adkins wouldn’t be a bad shout.. both have experience in English footy. 
Went to watch AFC totton who have a striker called Tony Lee.. better finisher than anything we have at our club and a manager who knows how to grind out results.

Edited 15 hours ago by madge

[die Mannyschaft]

7 minutes ago, Baz Fl said:

I was so happy to see the end of last season because it was awful as a Saints fan and that this season I could at least see us win some games but it’s almost feeling identical as our Prem disaster. We are broken guys well and truly and it’s now about avoiding another relegation. SR have perfected 

It will get worse as no one running the club has any football knowledge or experience or is a football fan as far as I can tell. They may as well be investors in toilet paper.