January Transfer Window

[Badger]

21 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Can’t forgive Prutton for that open goal miss v WBA and the stupid sending off v Arsenal.

People tend to forget that, and just recall his sending off. But that miss was a critical moment and had we won that match I think we’d have stayed up. 
 

(Apart from the FACT that our relegation was purely down to one match - losing to the skates at Fratton of course) 

[Badger]

2 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

If Armstrong goes we'll be laughing because we don't need to replace him.

People forget we have Cameron Archer, Walsall's answer to Ronaldo, ready to step straight in. 

And if he gets injured, Ross Stewart can lend him some of the dozens of crutches he must have cluttering up his fucking garage.

Yeh, not as if we want to score another goal this season. 

[Kenilworthy1959]

52 minutes ago, Chez said:

Reid was a Bagpuss target in January 2005. Forrest accepted our £3m bid, but he wanted to join Spurs. Prutton and Higginbottom was earlier, January 2003 I think. 

Arry wasted most of that window on Reid when right from the start he had made it clear he didn't want to join Saints, and why would he when Spurs was an option rather than relegation?

[Turkish]

14 minutes ago, Kenilworthy1959 said:

Arry wasted most of that window on Reid when right from the start he had made it clear he didn't want to join Saints, and why would he when Spurs was an option rather than relegation?

We were also trying to get Michael Dawson that window too, to be fair both of them would have made a huge difference but they chose Spurs instead as you probably would do. 

[Willo of Whiteley]

3 hours ago, Saint Scott said:

 

Can’t wait for him to sign and be loaned to Goztepe and then sold for a £1M more in a years time.

Benefits of the multi-club model.

[Willo of Whiteley]

57 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Reading online that…..

”Saints are desperate to sign a striker”

makes my cry a little inside. Look at the state of our striker additions when we have time to scout/set it up.

 

Agreed, for a club of our size, budgets etc we shouldn’t be struggling to sign players.

But when you sack a manager every six months it’s not particularly attractive.

[Chez]

12 minutes ago, Turkish said:

We were also trying to get Michael Dawson that window too, to be fair both of them would have made a huge difference but they chose Spurs instead as you probably would do. 

they would have (Redknap could spot the odd decent player when his mind wasn't on other things)....a lot more than bloody Davenport anyway. With Jamie Redknapp and Bernard also arriving, you can see how hard it is to attract player when you are a sinking ship. My man Henri Camara the exception to the rule of course.

[Chez]

51 minutes ago, Badger said:

People tend to forget that, and just recall his sending off. But that miss was a critical moment and had we won that match I think we’d have stayed up. 
 

what a '3000 away fans' head in hands' moment that was. I went to every game that season home and away. Still not sure how we didn't survive with the players we had. So many fuck ups.

[Chez]

4 hours ago, SuperSAINT said:

 

Eight figures...I know the discussion has been around us selling for £15m, but I wonder if we might consider selling him for £10m? I guess if Armstrong wants to leave then he wont be signing a new contract and that might force their hand a little.

Sports joining Saints was announced on 7th Feb while Armstrong departed on loan to WBA on the 4th Feb, so whether he had any input on that loan (and an indication of how highly he is rated by him) is hard to say.   

[LuckyNumber7]

1 hour ago, Badger said:

People tend to forget that, and just recall his sending off. But that miss was a critical moment and had we won that match I think we’d have stayed up. 
 

(Apart from the FACT that our relegation was purely down to one match - losing to the skates at Fratton of course) 

Yep, I was right behind the goal in the freezing cold that night and that miss still gives me nightmares. Relegated by two points in the end. Far worse than that sending off.

Can't believe it was 21 years ago!

[Saint86]

We're selling our only reliable goal scorer, with just Archer and the walking wounded remaining. Worrying times.

[Hatch]

11 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

We're selling our only reliable goal scorer, with just Archer and the walking wounded remaining. Worrying times.

But he isn't 'reliable' , thats the problem

[Harry_SFC]

5 minutes ago, Hatch said:

But he isn't 'reliable' , thats the problem

A big problem is that when he isn't scoring (like now) he doesn't bring anything else to the table. 

Can't hold it up, doesn't win headers, doesn't win fouls, can't beat players, not particularly good at passing. He normally works hard but even that's dropped off now. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Harry_SFC

[revolution saint]

41 minutes ago, Chez said:

Eight figures...I know the discussion has been around us selling for £15m, but I wonder if we might consider selling him for £10m? I guess if Armstrong wants to leave then he wont be signing a new contract and that might force their hand a little.

Sports joining Saints was announced on 7th Feb while Armstrong departed on loan to WBA on the 4th Feb, so whether he had any input on that loan (and an indication of how highly he is rated by him) is hard to say.   

10M is a pretty good price for 28 year old who is decent at this level and hopeless at anything higher.  I kind of feel the same way I did about Che Adams - I'm not that fussed if he goes but on the flip side I've got no confidence we'll replace him with the same quality let alone anyone better.  Would also feel like an admission that our season is effectively over (unless we got dragged into a relegation scrap).  

[swannymere]

16 minutes ago, Hatch said:

But he isn't 'reliable' , thats the problem

Compared to whom?

[trousers]

48 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

We're selling our only reliable goal scorer

If not scoring since 9th December is classed as "reliable" how inconsistent would they have to be to be described as 'unreliable'...?

[Harry_SFC]

29 minutes ago, revolution saint said:

10M is a pretty good price for 28 year old who is decent at this level and hopeless at anything higher.  I kind of feel the same way I did about Che Adams - I'm not that fussed if he goes but on the flip side I've got no confidence we'll replace him with the same quality let alone anyone better.  Would also feel like an admission that our season is effectively over (unless we got dragged into a relegation scrap).  

He'll be 29 in a couple of weeks too. 

[Saint Pete]

6 minutes ago, trousers said:

If not scoring since 9th December is classed as "reliable" how inconsistent would they have to be to be described as 'unreliable'...?

Like Cameron Archer? 

[pimpin4rizeal]

22 hours ago, Chez said:

Championship teams don't tend to spend £15m on players too often. Those that have, haven't always got the return they wanted.

We paid £15m for him. At that point he was a 28 goal a season championship striker that we imagined would make the step up. Since then we have found he can't do it in the PL and he's become a 20 goal man and now maybe just a 16 goal a season striker. Not to be sniffed at. Does Archer get 11 goals of he got the same minutes?

18 months left of his contract. His value goes down from here. 

But as a team trying to get promoted back to the premier league he is a hugely important player for us, our last full season in the championship he had around 40 goal contributions and also scored in the play off final we also spent 15 m ourselves on azaz Whilst he plays some great through balls I’d argue Armstrong is a better player at this level and also his pace and runs gets the best out of azaz.

think people are drinking the fickle juice for wanting AA sold when you think of the strikers we have signed under sports republic

mara (for the premier league)                      
archer (premier league ).      
onuachu (premier league    
Stewart              
BBD ( premier league ).     
damion downs 

Is it really a good idea to sell a proven 20 goal a season striker to championship rivals trusting the guys who made these signings to get a better striker then Adam Armstrong ? What could possibly go wrong ?

[Eagle778]

Sell Arma please. Having a midget up front is no good for us in the long term.

 

[SaintsRoyalty]

29 January and not a single rumour. Not one. How are Sport Republic able to keep finding new depths of ineptitude? 

I bet we could google any club right now and there would be at least one player linked to them. 

I don’t for a second think we are going to make the play offs but we are only 7 points of it as we speak and an experienced manager and a new striker would get us there and within a shout of being back on the premier league gravy train. The biggest prize in world football and we are not even giving it a half assed try.  

[badgerx16]

3 hours ago, leesaint88 said:

Armstrong - Aug 21

Broja - Aug 21 (Loan)

Mara - July 22

Tall Paul - Jan 23

Stewart - Sept 23

Diaz - July 24

Archer - Aug 24

Juan - Aug 24

Dipepa - Aug 24

Macleod - Aug 24 (Loan)

Udoh - Feb 25

Takaoka - March 25

Downs - July 25

That's it from what I can tell.

How much per goal have that lot cost us ?

Edited 3 hours ago by badgerx16

[coalman]

9 minutes ago, SaintsRoyalty said:

29 January and not a single rumour. Not one. How are Sport Republic able to keep finding new depths of ineptitude? 

I bet we could google any club right now and there would be at least one player linked to them. 

I don’t for a second think we are going to make the play offs but we are only 7 points of it as we speak and an experienced manager and a new striker would get us there and within a shout of being back on the premier league gravy train. The biggest prize in world football and we are not even giving it a half assed try.  

You have to admire Rasmus for running a tight ship. Having completely restructured scouting across the group under his personal supervision he's also managed to completely stem the tide of leaks and rumours.

[madge]

5 hours ago, OneMrsWallace said:

Indeed we will as tickets will be much cheaper in the Conference South. 

We ain’t beating AFC totton and they have a decent striker in Tony Lee 

[madge]

Fans now need to really start hammering sports republic at home games.. but so many melts just sit there and seem content to watch this shit in front of them.. a manager who’s basically been on work experience and given a job.. spors who has totally underestimated what you need in the championship and a board made up of complete loons… were completely fooked aren’t we.

[Chez]

32 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

 

Is it really a good idea to sell a proven 20 goal a season striker to championship rivals trusting the guys who made these signings to get a better striker then Adam Armstrong ? What could possibly go wrong ?

A bird in the hand...but there is an art to selling players before they fall of a cliff. We did it with Ings...or were forced to. Maybe now is the right time with AA? At the current scoring rate or a goal every 2.63 games, he is going to get 17 goals by the end of the season. That's down from 24 in 2023/4, which is down from 28 at Blackburn in 2020/1. 17 is still pretty good, although is a long way behind some of these:

• 2024-25 - Joel Piroe (19 goals)
• 2023-24 - Sammie Szmodics (27 goals)
• 2022-23 - Chuba Akpom (28 goals)
• 2021-22 - Aleksandar Mitrovic (43 goals)
• 2020-21 - Ivan Toney (31 goals)
• 2019-20 - Aleksandar Mitrovic (26 goals)
• 2018-19 - Teemu Pukki (29 goals)
• 2017-18 - Matej Vydra (21 goals)
• 2016-17 - Chris Wood (27 goals)

[Chez]

29 minutes ago, SaintsRoyalty said:

29 January and not a single rumour. Not one. How are Sport Republic able to keep finding new depths of ineptitude? 

 

...there was the link today to Branimir Mlacic

[Badger]

2 hours ago, Saint86 said:

We're selling our only reliable goal scorer, with just Archer and the walking wounded remaining. Worrying times.

Sports Republic at their best

[Football Special]

17 minutes ago, Chez said:

...there was the link today to Branimir Mlacic

Rumour- I've been told by someone with their ear to the ground that Saints are currently considering making an offer for a player that plays in Bundesliga 2 that probably no one has heard of  

[pimpin4rizeal]

31 minutes ago, Chez said:

A bird in the hand...but there is an art to selling players before they fall of a cliff. We did it with Ings...or were forced to. Maybe now is the right time with AA? At the current scoring rate or a goal every 2.63 games, he is going to get 17 goals by the end of the season. That's down from 24 in 2023/4, which is down from 28 at Blackburn in 2020/1. 17 is still pretty good, although is a long way behind some of these:

• 2024-25 - Joel Piroe (19 goals)
• 2023-24 - Sammie Szmodics (27 goals)
• 2022-23 - Chuba Akpom (28 goals)
• 2021-22 - Aleksandar Mitrovic (43 goals)
• 2020-21 - Ivan Toney (31 goals)
• 2019-20 - Aleksandar Mitrovic (26 goals)
• 2018-19 - Teemu Pukki (29 goals)
• 2017-18 - Matej Vydra (21 goals)
• 2016-17 - Chris Wood (27 goals)

I guess you could argue his stats could be down due the dysfunctional football we where playing under still at the start of the season, since tonda has been here he’s on about 7 goals in 16 games so just under a goal every other game .

it’s all good listing a few high scoring championship strikers but with sports republics record of recruitment you gotta say it’s a lot more likely replacing Armstrong would weaken us then strengthen us, seems more a case of worrying  about player trading values then actually worrying about the results on the pitch as usual 

[lambtiss]

3 hours ago, Badger said:

Yeh, not as if we want to score another goal this season. 

Yeah, as long as the XG is excellent who cares about, you know, scoring.

[Greenridge]

Recent history seems to dictate that we replace a player with someone of lesser quality pretty much every time. Well, it feels that way anyway.

[aintforever]

1 hour ago, trousers said:

If not scoring since 9th December is classed as "reliable" how inconsistent would they have to be to be described as 'unreliable'...?

Only one player has scored more than him in the Championship this season, it would be bonkers to sell him this window.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

9 minutes ago, Greenridge said:

Recent history seems to dictate that we replace a player with someone of lesser quality pretty much every time. Well, it feels that way anyway.

It begs the question who SR will find who is worse than Downs. 🙂

[Greenridge]

2 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

It begs the question who SR will find who is worse than Downs. 🙂

Please don't set them that challenge!

[Midfield_General]

5 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

It begs the question who SR will find who is worse than Downs. 🙂

Carrillo’s still only 34

Could Spors tempt him back?

[Oh no Mick Mills]

We're going to be in the Championship next season. 

I'd definitely keep Armstrong and try and convince him to stay.

Quite simply we need another big target man striker and then I'd play Armstrong on the right.

He got nearly as many assists as fellows but will also score a hatful of goals...unlike Fellows. 

[Oh no Mick Mills]

1 minute ago, Oh no Mick Mills said:

We're going to be in the Championship next season. 

I'd definitely keep Armstrong and try and convince him to stay.

Quite simply we need another big target man striker and then I'd play Armstrong on the right.

He got nearly as many assists as fellows but will also score a hatful of goals...unlike Fellows. 

Just to add i really like Fellows , he's exciting to watch,  really good crosser.

Bur how can we expect to be successful if one of your main attacking threats never scores??

[qwertyell]

6 hours ago, Saint Scott said:

 

He's supposedly about to join Inter and be loaned back to Hajduk Split for the rest of the season. Barcelona have also been sniffing around. 

I mean, he might've grown up with posters of Florin Gardos on his wall, and be an active participant in the West Quay facebook community, but even then I doubt joining one of the weaker Championship sides would be top of his destination preferences. 

That being said, he's a very decent prospect. Big lad, but athletic, strong in the air, physical, aggressive, moves pretty well, comfortable on the ball, good positional sense for his age. 

None of that sounds like a Saints player. 

[bangkoksaint]

3 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

He's supposedly about to join Inter and be loaned back to Hajduk Split for the rest of the season. Barcelona have also been sniffing around. 

I mean, he might've grown up with posters of Florin Gardos on his wall, and be an active participant in the West Quay facebook community, but even then I doubt joining one of the weaker Championship sides would be top of his destination preferences. 

That being said, he's a very decent prospect. Big lad, but athletic, strong in the air, physical, aggressive, moves pretty well, comfortable on the ball, good positional sense for his age. 

None of that sounds like a Saints player. 

Didnt Spors and whoever else try to suggest that Downes was this sort of player and would score loads? SR simply can’t be trusted and have pretty much lost the fanbase 

[pimpin4rizeal]

24 minutes ago, Oh no Mick Mills said:

We're going to be in the Championship next season. 

I'd definitely keep Armstrong and try and convince him to stay.

Quite simply we need another big target man striker and then I'd play Armstrong on the right.

He got nearly as many assists as fellows but will also score a hatful of goals...unlike Fellows. 

Totally agree with this actually I think AA is better wide right then he is through the middle .. he was awesome and had close to 40 goal contributions in the promotion season  fellows is a good dribbler but doesn’t seem to have goals in him a forward line of 

scienza.       Big cf signing.  AA

would look superb 

Edited 1 hour ago by pimpin4rizeal

[swedish dave]

3 hours ago, Chez said:

Eight figures...I know the discussion has been around us selling for £15m, but I wonder if we might consider selling him for £10m? I guess if Armstrong wants to leave then he wont be signing a new contract and that might force their hand a little.

Sports joining Saints was announced on 7th Feb while Armstrong departed on loan to WBA on the 4th Feb, so whether he had any input on that loan (and an indication of how highly he is rated by him) is hard to say.   

Why is everyone selling " down" for prices .     16,000,000  is also an eight figure price, and whilst he won't

go for anything like that, it's wrong to think of the first (and lowest) amount that some people can think of. 

[Convict Colony]

I would say the Armstrong from 2yrs ago in our promotion season would of scored a lot more goals this season than the current version.  

I think he's on the dip and his loan at wba showed he's not this goal scoring messiah in the championship, he was, but he's not anymore.

He has what 11 goals, I'd say he should be up nearer to 16/17 with some of the chances he's missed.

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Convict Colony said:

I would say the Armstrong from 2yrs ago in our promotion season would of scored a lot more goals this season than the current version.  

I think he's on the dip and his loan at wba showed he's not this goal scoring messiah in the championship, he was, but he's not anymore.

He has what 11 goals, I'd say he should be up nearer to 16/17 with some of the chances he's missed.

That is a fair assessment. 

[whelk]

Has there ever been such a dull window where we seem to be not looking for anyone?

[Give it to Ron]

2 hours ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

But as a team trying to get promoted back to the premier league he is a hugely important player for us, our last full season in the championship he had around 40 goal contributions and also scored in the play off final we also spent 15 m ourselves on azaz Whilst he plays some great through balls I’d argue Armstrong is a better player at this level and also his pace and runs gets the best out of azaz.

think people are drinking the fickle juice for wanting AA sold when you think of the strikers we have signed under sports republic

mara (for the premier league)                      
archer (premier league ).      
onuachu (premier league    
Stewart              
BBD ( premier league ).     
damion downs 

Is it really a good idea to sell a proven 20 goal a season striker to championship rivals trusting the guys who made these signings to get a better striker then Adam Armstrong ? What could possibly go wrong ?

Are we a team trying to get back to the Prem League though? You wouldn’t buy a 7m German 2 striker say he wouldn’t be loaned out without a replacement- he was - potentially now selling our and leagues top scorer without a replacement in the club.

Would appointing a 32year old manager without experience also look like going for promotion?

I wouldn’t trust SR with 50p 

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

20 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

I would say the Armstrong from 2yrs ago in our promotion season would of scored a lot more goals this season than the current version.  

I think he's on the dip and his loan at wba showed he's not this goal scoring messiah in the championship, he was, but he's not anymore.

He has what 11 goals, I'd say he should be up nearer to 16/17 with some of the chances he's missed.

But it is still 11 goals. Who else would have scored them in this current squad

[SaintsRoyalty]

2 hours ago, madge said:

Fans now need to really start hammering sports republic at home games.. but so many melts just sit there and seem content to watch this shit in front of them.. a manager who’s basically been on work experience and given a job.. spors who has totally underestimated what you need in the championship and a board made up of complete loons… were completely fooked aren’t we.

100% this. I rarely go to games now as despite always supporting my home town club when it comes to spending money on entertainment you have to get something in return. I’d like to say I’m being facetious by saying we are usually lucky to see a goal or perhaps even a shot (never mind a win at home against a weak opponent!) but I’m not. Let that sink in, we are lucky to see one measly goal and it’s been like this for 2 seasons. 
 

However, I went to the Sheffield Inited game because a mate was offered free tickets. Yes that’s right, the club rang up where he works and said he could have as many free tickets as he wanted. I can only assume it was to make the stadium look more full. So there is some news for all of you, they are begging people to take free tickets.

I was absolutely flabbergasted by the amount of people in the fan zone, buying overpriced food all game up and down the stairs, drinking pints in plastic cups out in the cold when they could be in a warm pub. The fanzine and bar was even open after the game which was boring as hell and there were still people hanging around and giving money to the club. What hope have we got with getting Sport Republic out with these absolute morons we have in our fanbase. We haven’t had an ounce of fun or entertainment in years and these happy clapping seals still turn up and empty out their pockets for nothing in return. Until this stops the misery is going to continue and Sport Republic are going no where. 

[BarberSaint]

4 minutes ago, SaintsRoyalty said:

100% this. I rarely go to games now as despite always supporting my home town club when it comes to spending money on entertainment you have to get something in return. I’d like to say I’m being facetious by saying we are usually lucky to see a goal or perhaps even a shot (never mind a win at home against a weak opponent!) but I’m not. Let that sink in, we are lucky to see one measly goal and it’s been like this for 2 seasons. 
 

However, I went to the Sheffield Inited game because a mate was offered free tickets. Yes that’s right, the club rang up where he works and said he could have as many free tickets as he wanted. I can only assume it was to make the stadium look more full. So there is some news for all of you, they are begging people to take free tickets.

I was absolutely flabbergasted by the amount of people in the fan zone, buying overpriced food all game up and down the stairs, drinking pints in plastic cups out in the cold when they could be in a warm pub. The fanzine and bar was even open after the game which was boring as hell and there were still people hanging around and giving money to the club. What hope have we got with getting Sport Republic out with these absolute morons we have in our fanbase. We haven’t had an ounce of fun or entertainment in years and these happy clapping seals still turn up and empty out their pockets for nothing in return. Until this stops the misery is going to continue and Sport Republic are going no where. 

They're probably the ones who clap and take selfies all game.

[Gloucester Saint]

10 hours ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Mainly exits - Aribo and Edozie are on the way 

In Joe’s case on the way to McDonalds in Shirley.

Edited 18 minutes ago by Gloucester Saint