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    What needs to be strengthened? problem areas that need to be addressed?

    For me it's a no brainer we need someone to put the ball in the back of the net a new striker

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    Someone to link midfield to attack. I think Jay Rod and Austin are adequate unless someone very special becomes available and more of a problem is getting more bodies in to the box and in attacking positions from midfield. A midfielder with a penchant for late runs, direct dribbling and an ability to smash it in the top corner from 25 yards every so often would be my choice.

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    The mental resolve of some on here
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    add goals, a striker or a more forward thinking CM

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    Quote Originally Posted by sambosa75 View Post
    Someone to link midfield to attack. I think Jay Rod and Austin are adequate unless someone very special becomes available and more of a problem is getting more bodies in to the box and in attacking positions from midfield. A midfielder with a penchant for late runs, direct dribbling and an ability to smash it in the top corner from 25 yards every so often would be my choice.
    I doubt Gylfi Sigurdsson would come to us.

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    Central Defender to blood in before the summer

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALWAYS_SFC View Post
    The mental resolve of some on here on here
    echo echo echo.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Give it to Ron View Post
    echo echo echo.......


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    Quote Originally Posted by Give it to Ron View Post
    Central Defender to blood in before the summer
    This I think is a sensible idea, we are clearly going to loose at least one this summer so if a suitable player is available in Jan we should take him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Give it to Ron View Post
    Central Defender to blood in before the summer
    Who?

    We have Yoshida and Gardos who are good enough for this level. I believe Gardos is back from injury now and obviously fourth choice. He's shown he's good enough for us before.

    In the mean time we have Van Dijk plus one of Fonte and Yoshida as centre backs.

    Realistically we are going to have to wait until we've off-loaded a centre back before signing one. There isn't really a viable option out there we can realistically sign that would get game time before the summer.

    The club seem to have decided Harrison Reed will be defensive midfield back up long term. We have a good squad to be honest, I like the depth of it. We've got decent back up everywhere and it explains our cup run and league position.

    I'm looking at us and in every defensive position we've got good back up and rotation options. Same for defensive and central midfield, same for both wings and striker. Very good position to be in.

    I think it will be very very interesting how the second half of the season goes. Last few seasons we've tended to drop off and struggle towards the back end of the season. Due to lack of rotation and constantly picking the same eleven. This season we have rotated massively. As a result despite Europe and a great league cup run the players are looking very sharp. Puel has handled the squad very very well.

    I'm really struggling to find a position we can realistically strengthen without spending silly money on an attacker. Which would be a gamble. Firstly the player might struggle and not be a success. And with us being loaded with attackers , it might create unrest in the squad as a result of frustration for one or two big name attackers in our squad. The one that is at the front for me is a goalscoring central midfielder, or someone that can make the team tick like Davis did against Bournemotuh..but do it better than Davis. These players are like gold dust though.

    We need to appreciate we have plenty of internationals. Steven Davis for example is proven on the international stage. I feel like what we don't need to do is replace Davis by any means, we need another Davis type player to rotate with him. If Davis was at his best, or just completely fresh, every game for us we would be a nightmare to play. We need 2 of him to rotate..it begs the question which players are similar to Davis that play in the same mould? And who is better than plays in the same mould? Who is out there that scores often from central midfield...that can defend? They are so rare I can't think of a goalscoring central midfielder (that has defensive IQ) for us to sign, signing a Davis type player is going to be a much easier and safer job probably

    People think we are weak at right back, or it's been claimed in the past. But who is actually without a question better than Cedric/Martina in rotation? There aren't many right backs better at all, loads are on their level... But the ones better (very very few out there are better. Cedric is a euros winner, yet Martina seems to be on his level. Yoshida has kept Fonte out the side. It's a reflection of how solid Yoshida and Martina are now.) aren't realistic options for us..we've realistically hit the ceiling with our entire side and squad we scout a hidden gem. We are so stacked though in every position I don't know which position we are going to attempt to sign a player in. I think if we don't sell anyone we won't sign anyone in January, our squad is too strong
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    Quote Originally Posted by FriendlySaint View Post
    Who?

    We have Yoshida and Gardos who are good enough for this level. I believe Gardos is back from injury now and obviously fourth choice. He's shown he's good enough for us before.

    In the mean time we have Van Dijk plus one of Fonte and Yoshida as centre backs.

    Realistically we are going to have to wait until we've off-loaded a centre back before signing one. There isn't really a viable option out there we can realistically sign that would get game time before the summer.

    The club seem to have decided Harrison Reed will be defensive midfield back up long term. We have a good squad to be honest, I like the depth of it. We've got decent back up everywhere and it explains our cup run and league position.

    I'm looking at us and in every defensive position we've got good back up and rotation options. Same for defensive and central midfield, same for both wings and striker. Very good position to be in.

    I think it will be very very interesting how the second half of the season goes. Last few seasons we've tended to drop off and struggle towards the back end of the season. Due to lack of rotation and constantly picking the same eleven. This season we have rotated massively. As a result despite Europe and a great league cup run the players are looking very sharp. Puel has handled the squad very very well.

    I'm really struggling to find a position we can realistically strengthen without spending silly money on an attacker. Which would be a gamble. Firstly the player might struggle and not be a success. And with us being loaded with attackers , it might create unrest in the squad as a result of frustration for one or two big name attackers in our squad. The one that is at the front for me is a goalscoring central midfielder, or someone that can make the team tick like Davis did against Bournemotuh..but do it better than Davis. These players are like gold dust though.

    We need to appreciate we have plenty of internationals. Steven Davis for example is proven on the international stage. I feel like what we don't need to do is replace Davis by any means, we need another Davis type player to rotate with him. If Davis was at his best, or just completely fresh, every game for us we would be a nightmare to play. We need 2 of him to rotate..it begs the question which players are similar to Davis that play in the same mould? And who is better than plays in the same mould? Who is out there that scores often from central midfield...that can defend? They are so rare I can't think of a goalscoring central midfielder (that has defensive IQ) for us to sign, signing a Davis type player is going to be a much easier and safer job probably

    People think we are weak at right back, or it's been claimed in the past. But who is actually without a question better than Cedric/Martina in rotation? There aren't many right backs better at all, loads are on their level... But the ones better (very very few out there are better. Cedric is a euros winner, yet Martina seems to be on his level. Yoshida has kept Fonte out the side. It's a reflection of how solid Yoshida and Martina are now.) aren't realistic options for us..we've realistically hit the ceiling with our entire side and squad we scout a hidden gem. We are so stacked though in every position I don't know which position we are going to attempt to sign a player in. I think if we don't sell anyone we won't sign anyone in January, our squad is too strong
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    The chances of picking up players that will be an improvement on what we currently have in the January window is highly unlikely we might have to settle for a couple of loans and that will depend on what the so called big clubs have what they feel are surplus to requirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ally_uk View Post
    What needs to be strengthened? problem areas that need to be addressed?
    Basic corework and some cardio. Long hours are taking their toll.

    You?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Give it to Ron View Post
    Simunovic from Celtic. Semedo or try a punt on Ake


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    Had not heard of him until he was mentioned on here a day or so ago. The initial write up sounded promising but he doesn't look too clever in the opening of this clip.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/scotland/38394301

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    A new manager !! heard there's a good one just been made available

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    Quote Originally Posted by IOWSaintDaz View Post
    A new manager !! heard there's a good one just been made available
    Are you Alan's agent or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyboy View Post
    Are you Alan's agent or something?
    No just saying he's a better PL manager than Puel will ever be

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    in January? probably not a whole lot if you look at it. Put yourself in the mind of Katrina, Ralph and Les.. why do we need to strengthen in January if we don't sell any players?

    01) we don't need to strengthen to avoid relegation

    02) strengthening would likely not propel us into the Top 6.

    03) strengthening would have little to no impact on the EFL Cup run. (I guess you could debate that, but how many January transfers make an immediate impact?)

    04) we really aren't on the cusp of anything that strengthening the team in January would put us over the top.

    Now I agree, it might be prudent to get a CB in here January instead of late August, as it looks like Fonte is going (possibly in Jan) and VvD is looking around, but honestly.. I would be surprised to see that much movement from the club this winter, especially with historically inflated prices for January transfers.

    So,

    if Fonte and VvD go this summer, we are looking at 60mil to play with. Where do you put it?

    GK

    For all the whining, we are set here. Good backup too.

    CB - (15mil) (add one player)

    I think we go out and get a real quality CB and give Yoshida a starting nod at the other CB position 2016/2017 (I have been one of his harshest critics, but he has really stepped up this season in the CB role). It's risky, but it's really hard to imagine 2 new CBs in the starting XI next year.

    FB

    We are good and have depth. Don't forget, Pied will be back (fingers crossed)

    midfield - (33mil) (two players)

    we have a TON of good (not great players) here. Tons of depth. Defensively sound, but we need to find ways to get more dynamism into the offense via the midfield. Someone mentioned better link up players, those who think forward first, instead of backwards. The bulk of the transfer kitty after getting a CB should be injected here.

    wingers

    we are good

    strikers - (12mil) (add one player)

    Maybe we add another in the 10mil to 12mil player to add depth and competition, but really, with proper distribution JRod, Austin, and Long have shown they can get the job done. (Long to a lesser extent)

    or I could be full it

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    Quote Originally Posted by IOWSaintDaz View Post
    No just saying he's a better PL manager than Puel will ever be
    Is that why he keeps getting sacked? What position are Palace again?

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    Just try and get someone in to cover Austin's injury. In the summer it's different though. I'd release/sell Martina, Targett, Fonte, Forster, one of the central midfielders and one of our strikers.

    Sign: GK, CB, CM, ST

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    Quote Originally Posted by ally_uk View Post
    What needs to be strengthened? problem areas that need to be addressed?
    I'd get rid of our entitled whiners and get more people who don't throw childish wobblers every time they don't get their own way with the result.

    Oh, did you mean the team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IOWSaintDaz View Post
    No just saying he's a better PL manager than Puel will ever be
    Remind me of the times Pardew's won a national league title or got to a Champions League semi-final?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrfahaji View Post
    I doubt Gylfi Sigurdsson would come to us.
    He plays for Swansea, in case you hadn't noticed. Aside from their League Cup win against then 4th tier Bradford they've done nothing we haven't bettered in the past 5 years. Whether we choose to try and outbid the likes of Stoke or Leicester is a different matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IOWSaintDaz View Post
    No just saying he's a better PL manager than Puel will ever be
    Deluded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FriendlySaint View Post
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    Realistically we are going to have to wait until we've off-loaded a centre back before signing one. There isn't really a viable option out there we can realistically sign that would get game time before the summer.
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    We signed Austin as Pelle's replacement, before Pelle left, because we knew he was going to leave. There's no reason we can't or won't do the same again, as it seems inevitable Fonte, VVD or both of them are going to leave. Even if by some Christmas miracle both stay another season, Fonte needs proactively replacing before he becomes a risk in a position we can't afford to take risks in.

    Gardos may well be the answer, but as we've seen with JRod, injuries can either take a very, very long time to come back from, or can change you forever.

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    Morgan Effing Schneiderlin


    Whatever it takes

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    Quote Originally Posted by The9 View Post
    He plays for Swansea, in case you hadn't noticed. Aside from their League Cup win against then 4th tier Bradford they've done nothing we haven't bettered in the past 5 years. Whether we choose to try and outbid the likes of Stoke or Leicester is a different matter.
    We were mentioned along with Everton as having interest in him before he signed his contract.

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    Really dont get the constant love in with Sehneiderlin on here. He's a good player but if anyone suggested spunking 20mil on another defensive mid that couldnt get into a top 6 side theyd be laughed out of the place. He did well for us and grew with us as we came up from league one days but on current form he wouldnt displace Davis, Classie or Romeu in our first 11

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaffaSaint View Post
    Really dont get the constant love in with Sehneiderlin on here. He's a good player but if anyone suggested spunking 20mil on another defensive mid that couldnt get into a top 6 side theyd be laughed out of the place. He did well for us and grew with us as we came up from league one days but on current form he wouldnt displace Davis, Classie or Romeu in our first 11
    not on current form no. but he is miles better than his current form.
    probably better than all of our CMs on a regular basis when given a run in the side

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaffaSaint View Post
    Really dont get the constant love in with Sehneiderlin on here. He's a good player but if anyone suggested spunking 20mil on another defensive mid that couldnt get into a top 6 side theyd be laughed out of the place. He did well for us and grew with us as we came up from league one days but on current form he wouldnt displace Davis, Classie or Romeu in our first 11
    Would any club be foolish enough to buy a player based on current form? The club knows this players capabilities inside out so no risk on that score. In any case I believe it's a theoretical discussion because I think he'll sign for Everton.

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    Schneiderlin left us and it didn't work for him but there is no way he would replace his successors, his day with us is done. He's filled his bank account, we've filled his place

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    Quote Originally Posted by IOWSaintDaz View Post
    No just saying he's a better PL manager than Puel will ever be
    I dont get on here enough to know which people are the jokers, who is being sarcastic, etc so sorry if Ive bitten here.....

    Are you talking about the same Alan Pardew who has guided Crystal Palace's most expensively ever assembled squad to the lowest points total of all 92 league teams in 2016? With just 6 wins?

    Against our new manager who has had to pick up a squad who had lost Mane, Pelle and Wanyama and has guided us to 7th at Christmas and in our first proper Semi Final for years!!? Given there is an obvious 'Big 6' in the Premier League, is 7th not a massive achievement and basically puts us top of our league?

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    Would love to see Morgan back. I think he would be great along side Oriol. Never happen though ��

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    WBA bid is closer to 13m than 18m......apparently
    what a cracking signing that would be for that cash

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crab Lungs View Post
    Morgan Effing Schneiderlin


    Whatever it takes
    Why? Serious question.

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    Deserves to be at West brim after his tantrum to get out. Shows the grass isn't always greener and trying to engineer a nice out of a well run club like ours could backfire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dellman View Post
    Schneiderlin left us and it didn't work for him but there is no way he would replace his successors, his day with us is done. He's filled his bank account, we've filled his place
    With Classie? Do me a favour. Couldn't lace Morgan's boots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IOWSaintDaz View Post
    A new manager !! heard there's a good one just been made available
    Good to see you back on the forum after your spazzy fit when Bournemouth scored last weekend.

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    Perrin > Van Djk
    Jean Michael SERI > new midfield for goals and assists
    Alassane Pla / recall Sam G - New striker options

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    WBA bid is closer to 13m than 18m......apparently
    what a cracking signing that would be for that cash
    Just can't see Reed sanctioning it, even at 10M, but it would make a great deal of sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miltonaggro View Post
    Just can't see Reed sanctioning it, even at 10M, but it would make a great deal of sense.
    But the thing is, it wouldn't.

    We have the second best defensive record in the league. We need a creative CM, not another defensive one.

    Agree that MS is, or was, better than what we currently have, but (unless we get two CM's in January, which won't happen) he is not the sort of player we currently need.

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    Schneiderlin would be our best cm if he cane back. He's still only 27 and at 15-20 million pounds a worthwhile investment. However we currently have a lot of CMs. Who do you seek if he comes back? Two months ago I'd have said Clasie without hesitating. Now I'm not so sure, he's been very good in recent matches and has finally adapted to the tempo in the PL. Loaning Read to a Championship team would only postpone the problem to the summer.

    A new CM would be a luxury, a new striker is a necessity. It doesn't have to be a permanent transfer, a loan would work just as well. Especially if you don't want to block Gallagher's path into the first team.

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    Schneiderlin seems mentally weak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    not on current form no. but he is miles better than his current form.
    probably better than all of our CMs on a regular basis when given a run in the side
    Not better than Romeu in my eyes.

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    Shock move for Defoe? We should of signed him a couple of years ago but the fella would get 10 goals for us if bought in January.

    I suspect he is too integral to S'lund's survival prospects tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    WBA bid is closer to 13m than 18m......apparently
    what a cracking signing that would be for that cash
    Obviously you would need to consider the combination of transfer fee and wages before deciding if it would be cracking signing for the cash.

    20m fee and 60k p/w wages would be a much better deal than 10m fee and 150k p/w wages over 5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teacher View Post
    Would love to see Morgan back. I think he would be great along side Oriol. Never happen though ��
    ManU has just announced that Morgan is free to leave in Jan, so you may get your wish, stranger things have happened!

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