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    Default Saints Arsenal FA Cup Build Up Thread

    Not that anyone will care until tomorrow, but here's the build up thread for the FA Cup game...

    I'll go for an unwanted 1-1 draw...

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    Cup double. 2-1 Saints

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    Probably a bit of after the Lord Mayors show about it. But think we'll win actually.

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    Hopefully we will play a strongish team in this as well. Cups are our best bet this season.

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    ---------------Forster-----------------
    Martina Stephens Yoshida McQueen
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    ----------Clasie Højbjerg------------
    Sims-----------------------Redmond
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    Long deserves to start. Clasie & perhaps hojberg in for jwp who got a knock and Davis who's just back from one.

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    The double is on and we're looking at a fairly meaningless second half of the League season.

    Let's go for it!

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    I reckon the atmosphere generated from the win v Liverpool will spur the team on. 3 v 1 winners!

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    Is it sold out yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyboy View Post
    Is it sold out yet?
    No. Probably won't be far off by Saturday teatime, mostly just the Chapel again.

    Any member who has eyes on a Wembley ticket would do worse than gambling £15 for this even if they've no intention in going, may help with qualifying number of games.

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    Lewis
    Martina
    Yoshida
    Stephens
    McQueen
    Romeu
    Clasie
    Hojbjerg
    Sims
    Redmond
    Long

    Bench: Forster, Bertrand, Cedric, Gardos, Davis, Tadic, Seager

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    ---------------Forster-----------------
    Martina Stephens Yoshida McQueen
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    ----------Clasie Højbjerg------------
    Sims-----------------------Redmond
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    Looks about right - hopefully they are buzzing enough and Arsenal aren't.

    Would love a great performance from Reed, but I would imagine Oriol plays instead of him.

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    Maybe there has been a plan all along, with Leicester being the fluke last season Saints knew in all honesty we weren't going to challenge for the top spot, so a solid run in the cups delivers the prize goal if we win one: another European tour.
    I believe I saw somewhere that Puel knows that the season is won and lost in the final 3rd, and his previous teams have had a surge in the latter part of the season.
    So he rotates the squad and gets as many players as possible running at match fitness as possible without doing too much overall damage to the cause. Then you get into the situation we find ourselves in now where in 4 weeks time we will be playing in a Cup Final. Unlike Leicester who rolled out the usual suspects just about every week last season we have a squad of 20+ players who have all been involved, all ticking over "in the pits", who now all want to be in the starting 11 in a cup final and also a further 7 players if they don't get the nod, to be waiting on the subs bench. Now with all the rotation we have potential headache looming for the manager as now he has to start thinking about his starting 11, but the pot of players to pick from is bigger than the available spaces and all of that pot is pretty much match ready, so with the exception of the odd 1-2-3-4 players they know that Claude is going to rotate players in and out: the result being that everyone ups their game to be in the Cup Final Squad, no one is going to hang back to avoid a possible knock because they know they are replaceable so they have to remain on top of their game to be in with a chance of playing in a cup final. Resulting in the whole team performance stepping up. If we fail in winning the League Cup the better performances in the games leading up to the final potentially see the 6th round of the FA Cup to redress the disappointment, and so the process remains until the last day of the season.

    Yes what I have written above might well be complete hogwash, in the first leg of the Semi at home v Liverpool we saw a very tidy performance. Burnley game they are battlers and everyone who turns up at Turf Moor is going to walk away having been in a hard scrap: we get done by a quirk of fate. Norwich we put out a rag tag team that on paper should have seen the job done, but end up bringing 2 players on who put the impetus in to win through. The Champions turn up Sunday, and despite the Tinkerman having a brainfart, we have enough about us to identify and exploit the pickle they are in with style. Then Wednesday night we step out onto one of the hardest grounds in the land, but where against Norwich we played like strangers, we worked as a disciplined team, no one was pointing fingers at anyone like we have seen, everyone got on and did a job in snuffing out the opposition, then punching them in the guts at the end.

    Claude will likely have a little tinker on Saturday evening, but I bet whoever he picks will be pretty damn keen to be in the reckoning for that starting 11 on the 26th February.............. Could be fun.

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    I'm curious to see who'll replace Rodriguez as an attacking option. It would be great if Ryan Seager or Olufela Olomola could get some game time.

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    Would be funny if we knocked them out of both cups this season but Arsenal are FA cup specialists, so i'm expecting a narrow loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pass the Dutchie View Post
    I'm curious to see who'll replace Rodriguez as an attacking option. It would be great if Ryan Seager or Olufela Olomola could get some game time.
    Olomola is injured, I believe. Ryan is still coming back to fitness after a serious injury.

    Isgrove is fit, but seems to have gone backwards this season.

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    Not to be negative but after such a energy boost after winnings vs L-Pool this game can actually come to soon - the batteries are not fully charged yet since they are still buzzing from reaching the final. Just saying it can be a setback just because of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Boy Saint View Post
    Maybe there has been a plan all along, with Leicester being the fluke last season Saints knew in all honesty we weren't going to challenge for the top spot, so a solid run in the cups delivers the prize goal if we win one: another European tour.
    I believe I saw somewhere that Puel knows that the season is won and lost in the final 3rd, and his previous teams have had a surge in the latter part of the season.
    So he rotates the squad and gets as many players as possible running at match fitness as possible without doing too much overall damage to the cause. Then you get into the situation we find ourselves in now where in 4 weeks time we will be playing in a Cup Final. Unlike Leicester who rolled out the usual suspects just about every week last season we have a squad of 20+ players who have all been involved, all ticking over "in the pits", who now all want to be in the starting 11 in a cup final and also a further 7 players if they don't get the nod, to be waiting on the subs bench. Now with all the rotation we have potential headache looming for the manager as now he has to start thinking about his starting 11, but the pot of players to pick from is bigger than the available spaces and all of that pot is pretty much match ready, so with the exception of the odd 1-2-3-4 players they know that Claude is going to rotate players in and out: the result being that everyone ups their game to be in the Cup Final Squad, no one is going to hang back to avoid a possible knock because they know they are replaceable so they have to remain on top of their game to be in with a chance of playing in a cup final. Resulting in the whole team performance stepping up. If we fail in winning the League Cup the better performances in the games leading up to the final potentially see the 6th round of the FA Cup to redress the disappointment, and so the process remains until the last day of the season.

    Yes what I have written above might well be complete hogwash, in the first leg of the Semi at home v Liverpool we saw a very tidy performance. Burnley game they are battlers and everyone who turns up at Turf Moor is going to walk away having been in a hard scrap: we get done by a quirk of fate. Norwich we put out a rag tag team that on paper should have seen the job done, but end up bringing 2 players on who put the impetus in to win through. The Champions turn up Sunday, and despite the Tinkerman having a brainfart, we have enough about us to identify and exploit the pickle they are in with style. Then Wednesday night we step out onto one of the hardest grounds in the land, but where against Norwich we played like strangers, we worked as a disciplined team, no one was pointing fingers at anyone like we have seen, everyone got on and did a job in snuffing out the opposition, then punching them in the guts at the end.

    Claude will likely have a little tinker on Saturday evening, but I bet whoever he picks will be pretty damn keen to be in the reckoning for that starting 11 on the 26th February.............. Could be fun.
    A naive load of Hogwash indeed....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Olomola is injured, I believe. Ryan is still coming back to fitness after a serious injury.

    Isgrove is fit, but seems to have gone backwards this season.
    There's a lad called Olafebi (?) who seems to have got a lot of goals for the youth recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shance View Post
    Would be funny if we knocked them out of both cups this season but Arsenal are FA cup specialists, so i'm expecting a narrow loss.
    I think it all depends on how seriously they take it. The same goes for us. Games usually go to the team that wants it the most.

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    I read that Arsenal are really short in CM due to injuries. Also is Wenger going to be at the game or will he be on a ban by then? Couple of things that might work in our favour.

    Which ever team Puel puts out I imagine they'll be desperate to impress with a cup final around the corner.

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    Anfield hangover might be an issue, but if we're fresh physically and Arsenal aren't at full tilt then we can take the game to them. Expect Hojbjerg to come in for Ward-Prowse and Long for Rodriguez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_clark View Post
    There's a lad called Olafebi (?) who seems to have got a lot of goals for the youth recently.
    I think he came off injured in the U18s FA youth cup defeat vs Man City last night

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    This is just a bonus game for me - not too concerned if we lose but would be nice to win

    I think with injuries the team will pick itself

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    can we still field a first 11 with the amount of injuries we have right now?

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    JWP, VVD & Jay Rod all confirmed to be out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErwinK1961 View Post
    JWP, VVD & Jay Rod all confirmed to be out.
    Question is, are any of the U23 strikers fit?

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    Forster
    Cedric Yoshida Stephens Bertrand
    Clasie Romeu Davis
    Redmond Long Tadic.

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    We can still put out a decent team.

    --------------------Forster-------------------

    Cedric-------Yoshi---------Stephens-----McQueen

    ----------------------Romeu--------------------------

    -------PEH---------Clasie-------------Tadic----------

    --------------Sims--------------Long----------------

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_Ash View Post
    We can still put out a decent team.

    --------------------Forster-------------------

    Cuco-------Yoshi---------Stephens-----McQueen

    ----------------------Romeu--------------------------

    -------PEH---------Clasie-------------Tadic----------

    --------------Sims--------------Long----------------

    Cuco for Cedric I reckon and maybe see Bertand in and McQueen played as a winger with Tadic on the bench

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    Will we see a u23 player make his debut and put in motm performance (like Sims, Stephens and McQueen)?

    Ryan Seagar back from injury?

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    I rather the tea lady played at RB than Martina.

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    Wenger given 4 match touchline ban with immediate effect

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    Quote Originally Posted by teacher View Post
    Wenger given 4 match touchline ban with immediate effect
    He'll still be in phone contact with whoever is standing in for him.Shame really as Claude could wind him up in French and we know how he reacts in English.

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    Gardos could start tomorrow.

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    Full house tomorrow, there was just a handful of single seats left this afternoon, hopefully cup-final fever and an afternoon drinking will loosen a few up for a good cup atmosphere with 4,000 Gooners in the Northam. Whatever happens "Que Sera, Sera" should get a noisy run-out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_Ash View Post
    We can still put out a decent team.

    --------------------Forster-------------------

    Cedric-------Yoshi---------Stephens-----McQueen

    ----------------------Romeu--------------------------

    -------PEH---------Clasie-------------Tadic----------

    --------------Sims--------------Long----------------
    I think Yoshi Romeu and Tadic need a rest maybe Gardos Reed

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    Quote Originally Posted by alehouseboys View Post
    Full house tomorrow, there was just a handful of single seats left this afternoon.
    Or... loads of people have bought tickets to bump themselves up the Wembley priority list and the place will be half empty...

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    Difficult to predict the score again given the injuries and necessary rotation, I'm pretty sure Arse will be treating this a lot more seriously than the league cup though. Don't want a bloody draw and replay!

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    Now sold out.

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    Pessimistic about this one. Wenger will probably put out a stronger team than the ones we knocked out in the League cup this year and last (he won't want that to happen again), plus they're rested and we're not. And of course our lengthy injury list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpsaint View Post
    Difficult to predict the score again given the injuries and necessary rotation, I'm pretty sure Arse will be treating this a lot more seriously than the league cup though. Don't want a bloody draw and replay!
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Munster View Post
    Pessimistic about this one. Wenger will probably put out a stronger team than the ones we knocked out in the League cup this year and last (he won't want that to happen again), plus they're rested and we're not. And of course our lengthy injury list.
    Arsenal have a pretty big list of injuries and suspensions to. I read they only have two fit senior central midfielders, given the games they have coming up, they may rest them and play the kids in the middle which might give us a good chance.

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    Obviously would love to win this and go on another cup run, having won 3 games in a row without conceding would help keep up our momentum. However if we do lose take consolation in the fact the next round is the week before the league cup final.
    It's quite possible we'll have a week off whereas United will play a 5th round game followed by a Europa league game on the Thursday before our final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teacher View Post
    Wenger given 4 match touchline ban with immediate effect
    I'm so disappointed. I was looking forward to seeing Arsene having a tantrum. It's never so spectacular when he's in the stands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRM View Post
    Obviously would love to win this and go on another cup run, having won 3 games in a row without conceding would help keep up our momentum. However if we do lose take consolation in the fact the next round is the week before the league cup final.
    It's quite possible we'll have a week off whereas United will play a 5th round game followed by a Europa league game on the Thursday before our final.
    ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by eelpie View Post
    I'm so disappointed. I was looking forward to seeing Arsene having a tantrum. It's never so spectacular when he's in the stands.
    I wonder if they can get him to stand up on the ledge and do his "Statue of Liberty" impression?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eelpie View Post
    I'm so disappointed. I was looking forward to seeing Arsene having a tantrum. It's never so spectacular when he's in the stands.
    Were will they put him? in the directors seating I guess but just for the giggles I think the club should stick him in the middle of the Northam.

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    Liverpool 1 down to wolves already

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    Quote Originally Posted by simo View Post
    Liverpool 1 down to wolves already
    Jesus imagine what sort of meltdown Alpinescouser and Glasgowscouser will be having on RAWK

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    must admit that this is the first time i can remember not really being bothered if we go out of the cup this afternoon. Yes i would love us to beat Arsenal but i will still be happy if we have lost at full time in the knowledge we are already going to Wembley. In my mind the most important thing now for us is to avoid any more serious injuries and to pick up form in the league so we go to the cup final on a rich vein of form.

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