FloridaMarlin Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Apparently Stevie G thinks his team mates aren't up for it Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard questioned his team-mates' desire and determination after their 1-0 Champions League away defeat against Basel. "They wanted it more which is very disappointing," he told Sky Sports. "We didn't deserve anything. We were too soft all over the pitch and conceding again from a set piece isn't good enough " Brendan is not happy with Liverhampton's Defence Like his skipper, manager Brendan Rodgers was critical of a defence that also conceded goals from set-pieces in recent league defeats to Aston Villa and West Ham. "I think set-piece defending is something we continue to talk about, look at and analyse. But you have to do it on the field," he said. "The key to defending is your first contact with the ball and we continually don't do that enough." Stevie G tenders his first application for the Liverpool manager's job. If Brenda was not looking over his shoulder previously, he'd better be now. There's a Scouser behind him with a big knife, ready to slip it effortlessly between his shoulder blades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Lambert to ease the cogs for the other two.......hmmm. Not sure. Firstly they give him the Nº 9 shirt. Apparently players put a lot in this sort of thing, and you don't give the prized shirt to a bit part player. Maybe Brenda thought that he was going to set the world on fire but soon realised that this wasn't going to happen. Lallana - not sure how many other teams above us were in for him. Certainly by sounds of it, it was only Liverpool. Lovren - well he might be different. On the showing last year, I though Utd would be in for him given that they had gotten rid of their cerntre backs. But it's still curious. It would be a shame if his career fizzles out into nothingness because of his choice to join his boyhoood club. I'm sure he'll get a goal or two, so that is mission complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 I reckon Lovren will be OK but Lallana and Lambert will be bit part players. Sturridge and Sterling both vastly overrated - look at how poor they are in England shirts for an example. No way Liverpool will finish top 4 with lightweights like Coutinho fluffing around the midfield, and captain Gerrard, 43, still dragging his sorry slow arse around just in front of the back 4. So out of the Champions League and qualification out of sight by Christmas. Rodgers already under massive pressure. Pass the popcorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Luke Shaw moved to England under 21's.......as too is Calum Chambers. Chambers I can understand to a degree....Shaw? Must be a big game for the U21s Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 I reckon Lovren will be OK but Lallana and Lambert will be bit part players. Sturridge and Sterling both vastly overrated - look at how poor they are in England shirts for an example. No way Liverpool will finish top 4 with lightweights like Coutinho fluffing around the midfield, and captain Gerrard, 43, still dragging his sorry slow arse around just in front of the back 4. So out of the Champions League and qualification out of sight by Christmas. Rodgers already under massive pressure. Pass the popcorn. I think what Liverpool certainly and perhaps to some extent Tottenham as well are learning here is that without Saints midfield any player taken from us is just a bit of a spare part. Our success last season came from our midfield, it's still here and we're still doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeather Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 I think what Liverpool certainly and perhaps to some extent Tottenham as well are learning here is that without Saints midfield any player taken from us is just a bit of a spare part. Our success last season came from our midfield, it's still here and we're still doing well. Interesting...also also as far as we know Poch only wanted Schneiderlin, not any of the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Interesting...also also as far as we know Poch only wanted Schneiderlin, not any of the others. Schneiderlin is the key, guess that's why they wanted him and why we were so determind to keep him. Only one of our midfielders to have played all of the games this season I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Luke Shaw moved to England under 21's.......as too is Calum Chambers. Chambers I can understand to a degree....Shaw? Must be a big game for the U21s Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It is a big game for the U21's in all fairness, and small ones for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 10 changes for Spurs tonight, hoping they get stuffed regardless. Besiktas should be good enough to cause them plenty of problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Interesting...also also as far as we know Poch only wanted Schneiderlin, not any of the others. Didn't he, or doesn't he, want JRod? But yes, it certainly didn't go unnoticed that it was mainly MS that he wanted. As for AL, I think he will be a pivotal player at Liverpool rahter than a bit part player. Coutinho is a load of crap, another bullet dodged there, and will replace him. Scoucers seem quite keen on AL. It was a very good deal for us, time will tell how good it was for Pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Bait to lure AL in, although it seems he was already determined to be there before the season had even finished.? Keep Lovren's head company until the rest of him arrived? I said exactly this at the time. They were buying the pair, one was no use to them without the other. Once Lambert went it was only matter of time before lallana followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Liverpool were typical top 8 team last season until Suarez came back from suspension. It was all down to him on how well they did, so it is absolutely no surprise that they are doing relatively badly without him. Think they were not expecting Suarez to go and the other players were bought to boost the squad, but once he went they went into panic mode, and had to buy a big name, why Balotelli was purchased and with his temperament it was always going to be a gamble. Still think Rickie was bought to induce the other 2 to chose Liverpool as the club to move too. Ermmm no, Liverpool were second when Suarez played his first game last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Defecators watch. They've all done crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 2 October, 2014 Share Posted 2 October, 2014 Oh bad luck Poch. You knob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Defecators watch. They've all done crap. Chambers is doing OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Luke Shaw moved to England under 21's.......as too is Calum Chambers. Chambers I can understand to a degree....Shaw? Must be a big game for the U21s Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Play off 1st leg at Wolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svetigpung Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 I think what Liverpool certainly and perhaps to some extent Tottenham as well are learning here is that without Saints midfield any player taken from us is just a bit of a spare part. Our success last season came from our midfield, it's still here and we're still doing well. Not only was our midfield the key , but our success was built on a fantastic squad attitude. The feel good feeling where everyone was helping eachother. This in turn made many playsers seem much better than they might actually be. Lambert and Lovren. Jay Rod is another. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Chambers is doing OK. I think he looks very assured. Did wind me up the other day thought when one commentator, praising him, said that Chambers hadn't fallen into the trap many have when they move to 'a big club'. Grrr. Think it might have been Hoddle speaking, in which case it was laced with ire. He might come back disabled... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Chambers is doing OK. You might have to read what he said again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Ermmm no, Liverpool were second when Suarez played his first game last season. And they would have been top had they not lost at home to a small little ambitionless south coast club the week before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 3 October, 2014 Author Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Chambers is doing OK. Yes and I don't begrudge him it to be honest. I know Arse have taken many of our best academy graduates, at the cusp of their maturity, for about decade now, but they and Wenger did it with some class and respect, unlike the grinning jackass Brendon and the Scousers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Yes and I don't begrudge him it to be honest. I know Arse have taken many of our best academy graduates, at the cusp of their maturity, for about decade now, but they and Wenger did it with some class and respect, unlike the grinning jackass Brendon and the Scousers. The blow is softened somewhat by the fact that they have mostly stagnated under Arsene. Theo and Ox haven't reached anywhere near where we thought they would (particularly Theo). I wonder how Bale would have got on if Wenger had followed up his reported interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Yes and I don't begrudge him it to be honest. I know Arse have taken many of our best academy graduates, at the cusp of their maturity, for about decade now, but they and Wenger did it with some class and respect, unlike the grinning jackass Brendon and the Scousers. "Brendan and the Scousers" sounds like a really shît Beatles cover band.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch01 Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 I don't know, I still think AOC will be one of the best players in the country before long, and Walcott had been playing very well for quite a while before his injury (although I agree, he hasn't lived up to the 'next Henry' tag he was given when he first arrived.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 The blow is softened somewhat by the fact that they have mostly stagnated under Arsene. Theo and Ox haven't reached anywhere near where we thought they would (particularly Theo). I wonder how Bale would have got on if Wenger had followed up his reported interest. Is it me or do Arsenal seem to always get a lot of injuries both Theo and Oxo seem to have spent a lot of time injured since moving to Arsenal and they always seem to have a long injury list of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpbury Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Is it me or do Arsenal seem to always get a lot of injuries both Theo and Oxo seem to have spent a lot of time injured since moving to Arsenal and they always seem to have a long injury list of players. When Wenger first arrived, people were taking the **** out of his wacky, foreign 'dance moves' training, but I recall he was later praised for the reduction in injuries. Perhaps he's not hands on enough any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Brenda telling the press that Liverpool are in " transition" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Please stop having a go at Brendan Rodgers. He seemed like a lovely chap when I bought that crate of snake oil from him. Undercharged me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Brenda telling the press that Liverpool are in " transition" . From title challengers back to top 4 challengers? For a team that was a whisker from winning the league, it is a crime how bad they are doing and how their manager can say that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 From title challengers back to top 4 challengers? For a team that was a whisker from winning the league, it is a crime how bad they are doing and how their manager can say that It is really, if we're honest there's no need for them to be a team in transition. He's well and truly broken that side, and he's now trying to talk his way out of it. Also, shouldn't we be in more of a transition than them? I don't see us moaning, Okay, it's early days, but he's struggled to get any sort of level from that setup yet, and he's criminally underusing Rickie Lambert, and demonstrating he doesn't really know his game. All they needed to do was replace Luis Suarez and Glen Johnson, and maybe a CB at the level of Hummells - Lovren doesn't really upgrade them. Their summer signing policy was nothing other than a mess, but they Scousers will never admit that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Their summer signing policy was nothing other than a mess, but they Scousers will never admit that. Agreed. I suggest we need a minutes silence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Good work Lovren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 3 October, 2014 Share Posted 3 October, 2014 Lovren was made to look better than he is by the presence of VW/MS. He now has Gerrard sat in front of him who IMHO is never a defensive midfield player - 40 - 50. Yard Hail Mary American football passes don't work in the prem - just invites the opposition back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 4 October, 2014 Author Share Posted 4 October, 2014 (edited) DPM Edited 4 October, 2014 by adrian lord DPM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickierambert Posted 4 October, 2014 Share Posted 4 October, 2014 Not so much a defectors watch but ex-Saints watch: Went to see Dagenham v Exeter last night and Matt Oakley and Danny Butterfield are playing as centre-backs in a funky 3-4-3 formation for Exter. Was very weird to watch but good to see them again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 4 October, 2014 Share Posted 4 October, 2014 Not so much a defectors watch but ex-Saints watch: Went to see Dagenham v Exeter last night and Matt Oakley and Danny Butterfield are playing as centre-backs in a funky 3-4-3 formation for Exter. Was very weird to watch but good to see them again And Aaron Davies got the winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 4 October, 2014 Share Posted 4 October, 2014 Lallana scores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 4 October, 2014 Share Posted 4 October, 2014 And been their best player too, apparently. Had to happen i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 4 October, 2014 Share Posted 4 October, 2014 Cocky little sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 4 October, 2014 Share Posted 4 October, 2014 He flipped like a burger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 4 October, 2014 Share Posted 4 October, 2014 Cocky little sh*t. Yeah, you say that, but it'd only take an "h" for you to flip like a burger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 4 October, 2014 Share Posted 4 October, 2014 He even thumped the badge when he scored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 4 October, 2014 Author Share Posted 4 October, 2014 Lovren gave away a penalty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 4 October, 2014 Share Posted 4 October, 2014 Lovren gave away a penalty Which was outside the area. Shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 4 October, 2014 Share Posted 4 October, 2014 Lovren's having a mare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 4 October, 2014 Share Posted 4 October, 2014 Choice quote from the BBC live feed from somebody on text: "Adam, Edinburgh: On this evidence, hard to see how Lovren can be worth £20m. Has made more basic errors in possession today than a top class centre back should in a season." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 4 October, 2014 Share Posted 4 October, 2014 He even thumped the badge when he scored Really? Not surprised, but still - what a cúnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 October, 2014 Share Posted 4 October, 2014 Liverpool fans really don't like Lovren, they're calling for him to be dropped now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 October, 2014 Share Posted 4 October, 2014 Liverpool fans really don't like Lovren, they're calling for him to be dropped now. When they're not drooling all over Lallana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 4 October, 2014 Share Posted 4 October, 2014 He even thumped the badge when he scored Why am I not surprised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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