Fonte Transfer Rumours

[Matthew Le God]

The idiots who don’t rate Fonte and want us to sell him are the same idiots who didn’t rate Mane, Wanyama and Pelle and wanted us to sell them too. Right now, owing to the sale of those three, the defensive pairing of Fonte and van Dijk is all that's keeping us from a relegation struggle.

 

I think your search for an idiot should look closer to home.

 

- 7th in the Premier League

- semi final of the cup to come

 

If you think we have remotely close to a squad that would be in a relegation battle, then your ability to judge player quality is extremely poor (as is the case for a lot of bed wetters on this forum).

[Shance]

If Utd offer us 15 mil for Fonte then we should take it.

[Verbal Kint]

If Utd offer us 15 mil for Fonte then we should take it.

 

That just isn't going to happen surely. Bailly and Smalling to come back in the next couple of weeks and Rojo and Jones are in fantastic form at the moment. They won't be paying that sort of money for Fonte and I doubt anybody will in reality. 5/6 million at the most and even then I'm not sure any of the big 6 would be interested. Everton at best

[petts]

If he goes, well move on and keep progressing. We've shown in recent years that we are not reliant on just one (or 2/3) players anymore. Would be a shame though, as hes been an instrumental part of our rise.

 

Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk

[Shance]

That just isn't going to happen surely. Bailly and Smalling to come back in the next couple of weeks and Rojo and Jones are in fantastic form at the moment. They won't be paying that sort of money for Fonte and I doubt anybody will in reality. 5/6 million at the most and even then I'm not sure any of the big 6 would be interested. Everton at best

 

Agree with some of that. Rojo though has been gash. haha

[Verbal Kint]

Agree with some of that. Rojo though has been gash. haha

 

He's been absolutely brilliant the last few weeks

[Disco Stu]

Last remaining player from our league 1 days. Would be a shame to see him go but the day when he's no longer fit for the first team is quickly approaching.

[Shance]

He's been absolutely brilliant the last few weeks

 

No chance mate. Been caught out a couple of times and should've had three red cards a s well.

[alpine_saint]

I dont want Jose to go, but I want this resolved either way. Couldnt care less the exact figure we get.

 

He came back with a different mindset after the Euros, and he hasnt played as well this season, imo.

 

A shame his Saints career looks set to end on a sour note.

[doddisalegend]

We don't have the strength in depth at CB to let Fonte go in Jan and I don't see us wanting to try and get a new CB up to speed mid season. My take is if he wants to leave next summer the club will cash in.

[Heisenberg]

The club is clever with its manipulation and it's a shame how many players leave here on a sour note

 

3 sides to every story but on here the clubs side is always correct

[Fabrice29]

Fonte is 3 years younger than Ibrahimovic and one of the fittest players in our squad.

He is also a reigning European champion at the peak of his game. Most top clubs, even Real Madrid, have a centre back in his early 30s. Young centre backs, even expensive ones like Stones, are just too erratic. If Les plans to sell him in January, he'll have several top Premier League clubs making offers, including Man United, where Mourinho would see him filling the role that Terry had at Chelsea. I still don't understand why some Saints fans underrate Fonte so much. He's one of the best central defenders I've ever seen and if we cash in on him in January there goes our watertight defence. Do we really need the money that badly? If so, we should keep him because the number of league places we’re going to drop without him is going to cost us a lot.

 

The idiots who don’t rate Fonte and want us to sell him are the same idiots who didn’t rate Mane, Wanyama and Pelle and wanted us to sell them too. Right now, owing to the sale of those three, the defensive pairing of Fonte and van Dijk is all that's keeping us from a relegation struggle.

 

It's not a case of people not rating Fonte ffs. He's 33? There comes a time when the club has to make a difficult decision and tell him he isn't going to get his contract extended. That time has probably right come. It doesn't mean we as fans dont rate him and the evidence is there that the club still rate him because in his own words he's been offered a pay rise. Just not a contract extension. He's probably quite fairly sounding out interest from other clubs so he can extend his stay in the Premier League for longer. If he doesn't leave in January or the latest this summer then he doesn't leave at all I imagine and as we aren't extending his contract then his top level career is over when the contract runs out. Leave now and he gets an extra year or two.

 

If we can get decent money for him and a replacement then lovely, it suits everyone for him to go sooner rather than later. If not, then we still have a top CB for the rest of the season and one who despite the speculation isn't letting him affect his performances. It's not the massive story everyone thinks it is, I doubt either party have been brilliant in the situation but that's life.

 

I would like to point out that this speculation is all for pro Fonte. Almost as if it's ran by the agent who either wants a move (so links him to United, who's manager is with the same agent so probably wont come out and dismiss it) or wants Saints to buckle under the pressure and extend his contract. It's interesting that all this speculation is the same as in the summer but the only bid that apparently came was from Everton. I wonder if the same will happen in January, that United will get used whilst not really wanting him, to try and drum up interest from elsewhere or as I say, make us give in.

[rooney]

Think Rickie Lambert.

[shurlock]

Think Rickie Lambert.

 

And what?

 

Good CBs tend to have longer shelf lives than strikers.

[angelman]

The club is clever with its manipulation and it's a shame how many players leave here on a sour note

 

3 sides to every story but on here the clubs side is always correct

 

You don't half write utter tosh. Who left on a sour note? Lallana and Lovren. That's it so far. And pray tell why the club are to blame for that, especially with Lovren? Simple fact is Glasgow, these players sign contracts and then expect them only to be observed unilaterally as and when it suits them.

[SaintBitterne]

Always thought yoshida was better anyway

[warsash saint]

Always thought yoshida was better anyway

 

You are probably right & Yosh has not let the team down when he has played this season BUT Fonte represents more than a CB .... he's the club captain & has dragged us from League One. Leaves a sour note on how this is panning out

[Gunnery]

You are probably right & Yosh has not let the team down when he has played this season BUT Fonte represents more than a CB .... he's the club captain & has dragged us from League One. Leaves a sour note on how this is panning out

I don't think we should be saying things like "He dragged us from League 1" he wasn't alone was he? Lambert's goals, Gulys goals, Sharps goals, Fox's dead ball deliveries, Dean Hammonds leadership, Chaplows tenacity, Connollys goals, Super Kelvins performances between the posts etc etc. Jose Fonte is getting on a bit, it would be a poor business decision to throw a new contract at him. He's been offered a pay rise, assumingly to mark his position as 'top boy' and to reflect his past loyalties to the club, if he doesn't want to accept that then it's a shame but what else can the club do? He's certainly not bigger than SFC.

[SW5 SAINT]

If Utd offer us 15 mil for Fonte then we should take it.

 

Bite their arm of more like.....

[Lighthouse]

Bite their arm of more like.....

 

We'd be mental to turn that down and they'd be mental to offer it.

[BARCELONASAINT]

Personally i think the board have got it spot on with this one, they offered him a pay rise to reflect his position within the club after a great season for the club and Fonte. He is contracted to 2018. Think back how many time we bought players and offered silly money to ageing pro's looking for that last big pay packet.....some worked out, some didn't. We are no longer that club, thank god. Fonte has been excellent for Saints and i love the guy.....but Saints have been fantastic for him, lets not forget that!

I completely understand him wanting to extend his contract and therefore extend his Premiership footballing days but this is a business and i believe the board are doing what is right for the club.

I'm sorry but Fonte does not really have much to moan about at all.

[SKD]

Personally i think the board have got it spot on with this one, they offered him a pay rise to reflect his position within the club after a great season for the club and Fonte. He is contracted to 2018. Think back how many time we bought players and offered silly money to ageing pro's looking for that last big pay packet.....some worked out, some didn't. We are no longer that club, thank god. Fonte has been excellent for Saints and i love the guy.....but Saints have been fantastic for him, lets not forget that!

I completely understand him wanting to extend his contract and therefore extend his Premiership footballing days but this is a business and i believe the board are doing what is right for the club.

I'm sorry but Fonte does not really have much to moan about at all.

 

Completely agree.

 

Maybe provide a 'gentleman's agreement' that if he plays more than x amount next year we'll offer him a 1 year extension and keep it on that basis.

[benjii]

I also agree.

[angelman]

I am afraid to say that it is players/agents once again not understanding what the contract they signed actually means. Are they all rather dense? Fonte signed an extension in October of 2015 to take him up to the end of June 2018. He signed it. The club are not beholden to offer any further extension, in the same way that players are not beholden to extend theirs if the club wants it. Players might like to think that they have all the "power" but they don't. If (and the operative word is "if") Fonte has the hump, then I would be happy with Yoshi as his attitude makes up for other areas. But has he the hump? We hear all this stuff about coaching and wanting to be a coach at Saints, but that sits a little differently from what little we have been hearing of recent.

[rooney]

And what?

 

Good CBs tend to have longer shelf lives than strikers.

You mean like Claus and Ken Monkou I expect.

[Nordic Saint]

He's been absolutely brilliant the last few weeks

 

He certainly has. He was perfect in his last 2 games v Middlesbrough and Stoke: a European champion at the peak of his game. It's no coincidence that we get so many clean sheets when he plays: 4 in the last 5 games he's played.

[Lighthouse]

He certainly has. He was perfect in his last 2 games v Middlesbrough and Stoke: a European champion at the peak of his game. It's no coincidence that we get so many clean sheets when he plays: 4 in the last 5 games he's played.

 

We managed the second best defence in the Europa League without him, after Shalke, I believe.

Only conceded 8 in the 12 games Yoshi has played in all comps.

We've yet to concede more than 1 goal in a game Fonte was ABSENT from.

[philelec]

And so are you - in your own mind!

The club is clever with its manipulation and it's a shame how many players leave here on a sour note

 

3 sides to every story but on here the clubs side is always correct

[CB Fry]

The club is clever with its manipulation and it's a shame how many players leave here on a sour note

 

3 sides to every story but on here the clubs side is always correct

I always wonder what it must be like to be clever with manipulation.

[Draino76]

And to think I named my robotic Hoover after Jose.

[DuncanRG]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/12/19/southampton-will-refuse-sell-virgil-van-dijk-january-may-listen/

 

Interesting briefing to Jeremy Wilson - Fonte may go for 'sizeable offer' in Jan, Van Dijk staying in January but might go in summer with £40m valuation.

 

I wonder what was in Fonte's contract offer besides the pay rise - he wouldn't have turned down the money unless there was something attached he didn't like. Perhaps a release clause?

 

Wilson writes that we will only listen to offers for Van Dijk this summer if we've identified a replacement...but doesn't explicitly say we take the same approach with Fonte. Hope there's nothing in that.

Edited 19 December, 2016 by DuncanRG

[CB Fry]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/12/19/southampton-will-refuse-sell-virgil-van-dijk-january-may-listen/

 

Interesting briefing to Jeremy Wilson - Fonte may go for 'sizeable offer' in Jan, Van Dijk staying in January but might go in summer with £40m valuation.

 

I wonder what was in Fonte's contract offer besides the pay rise - he wouldn't have turned down the money unless there was something attached he didn't like. Perhaps a release clause?

 

Wilson writes that we will only listen to offers for Van Dijk this summer if we've identified a replacement...but doesn't explicitly say we take the same approach with Fonte. Hope there's nothing in that.

We haven't put any release clauses in for any player so not sure why we would put one in for a 33 year old centre back.

 

Article sounds about right - we won't sell VVD in January. Will be interesting if we do end up Jack Corking Fonte out the door next month. Would be a rather ignominious end to a fine tenure.

[Give it to Ron]

Don't know if me being a bit Touchy but Le Tiss was asked on Talksport this morning about losing 2 central defenders in January and only mentioned Virgil saying he had just signed 6 year deal so don't need to sell - never mentioned Jose at all. Could just be me putting 2 and 2 but surprised he didn't say anything about the captain

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[View From The Top]

I'm out on Wednesday with friends who work at Stoke and both City & Utd. They usually are pretty clued as to whats happening, they are the ones who told me about the Shaw and Morgan deals a few weeks in advance so I'll ask what they know. I'm interested to know if they've heard anything about Berihino.

[Dusic]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/12/19/southampton-will-refuse-sell-virgil-van-dijk-january-may-listen/

 

Interesting briefing to Jeremy Wilson - Fonte may go for 'sizeable offer' in Jan, Van Dijk staying in January but might go in summer with £40m valuation.

 

I wonder what was in Fonte's contract offer besides the pay rise - he wouldn't have turned down the money unless there was something attached he didn't like. Perhaps a release clause?

 

Wilson writes that we will only listen to offers for Van Dijk this summer if we've identified a replacement...but doesn't explicitly say we take the same approach with Fonte. Hope there's nothing in that.

Article makes complete sense. No chance of us selling VVD now. Hopefully when he does go we get at least equal to what Stones cost though.

 

Fonte situation is obviously a little more than what has been publically stated but again, the position of the club nakes complete sense. Either he wants to be at Saints or wants a big deal elsewhere, if one is offered next month he will be off most likely. If not then he might regret the position he has put himself in.

[DuncanRG]

Can't read Guardiola's mind but I think Van Dijk is exactly the sort of player they need to replace Kompany and put alongside Stones. Difficult to walk into that dressing room as a captain but he's made of the right stuff.

[Saint Billy]

Shame really, from hero to villain.

[SuperSAINT]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/12/19/southampton-will-refuse-sell-virgil-van-dijk-january-may-listen/

 

Interesting briefing to Jeremy Wilson - Fonte may go for 'sizeable offer' in Jan, Van Dijk staying in January but might go in summer with £40m valuation.

 

I wonder what was in Fonte's contract offer besides the pay rise - he wouldn't have turned down the money unless there was something attached he didn't like. Perhaps a release clause?

 

Wilson writes that we will only listen to offers for Van Dijk this summer if we've identified a replacement...but doesn't explicitly say we take the same approach with Fonte. Hope there's nothing in that.

 

Nothing in there a realistic Saints fan wouldn't assume.

 

But going into next season without the 2 of them is brave even by our standards!

[Cartman]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/12/19/southampton-will-refuse-sell-virgil-van-dijk-january-may-listen/

 

Interesting briefing to Jeremy Wilson - Fonte may go for 'sizeable offer' in Jan, Van Dijk staying in January but might go in summer with £40m valuation.

 

I wonder what was in Fonte's contract offer besides the pay rise - he wouldn't have turned down the money unless there was something attached he didn't like. Perhaps a release clause?

 

Wilson writes that we will only listen to offers for Van Dijk this summer if we've identified a replacement...but doesn't explicitly say we take the same approach with Fonte. Hope there's nothing in that.

 

Why on earth would a player not like a release clause?

[Cartman]

Nothing in there a realistic Saints fan wouldn't assume.

 

But going into next season without the 2 of them is brave even by our standards!

 

Only listen to offers if we find a replacement. Can't imagine it would be likely that we will find someone who is at least as good as Virgil, especially that we will already be looking for a player in the same position to replace Fonte. So no replacement, no deal.

[whelk]

Anyone who has a personalised number plate is a wrong 'un

[The Cat]

Anyone who has a personalised number plate is a wrong 'un

 

I couldn't agree more. I also saw him driving like an arrogant **** in heavy traffic on the M3 once, for that reason alone I'd let him go.

[rooney]

Anyone who has a personalised number plate is a wrong 'un

I thought it was Fish Tanks in the Boardroom and the Queens Award for Industry Flag flying outside, one had to be beware of also?

[saintadam]

How quick some supporters turn their back on players. Not to long ago some people claimed Martina was better than Cedric Now Yoshida is better than Fonte.

 

Other than a few dodgy games at the start of the season, Fonte has been as reliable as usual. Yoshida has grown this season but im far from comfortable replacing Fonte with him.

[warsash saint]

Shame really, from hero to villain.

 

Villain? Really!

[Saints foreva]

How quick some supporters turn their back on players. Not to long ago some people claimed Martina was better than Cedric Now Yoshida is better than Fonte.

 

Other than a few dodgy games at the start of the season, Fonte has been as reliable as usual. Yoshida has grown this season but im far from comfortable replacing Fonte with him.

 

Agree with this but this is what happens when players are linked with a move away, suddenly they're viewed as overrated. Fonte has been in fine form since giving that penalty away at Arsenal and is still better than Yoshida.

[Nolan]

Agree with this but this is what happens when players are linked with a move away, suddenly they're viewed as overrated. Fonte has been in fine form since giving that penalty away at Arsenal and is still better than Yoshida.

I think some people use the word underrated, when the term replaceable should be used.

[Greenridge]

I'm sure this is covered already but seems Man U have opened talks with Benfica CB Victor Lindelof which must make a move for Fonte even more unlikely.

[ErwinK1961]

BREAKING NEWS: Sky sources: @ManUtd have held initial talks with @SLBenfica about a £38m transfer for defender Victor Lindelof. #SSNHQ

[Gunnery]

I'm sure this is covered already but seems Man U have opened talks with Benfica CB Victor Lindelof which must make a move for Fonte even more unlikely.

 

Fonte was never in Man Utd's thoughts imo.