SotonianWill Posted 21 May, 2023 Share Posted 21 May, 2023 Man city celebrating their trophy in front of empty seats gave me second hand embarrassment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 21 May, 2023 Share Posted 21 May, 2023 Man City winning the league is a huge shrug of the shoulders for a lot of football fans. It isn’t groundbreaking. Don’t get me wrong it’s very impressive the squad and what they’ve built up. But it’s a little boring now. A bit like Bayern in the Bundesliga and PSG in Ligue 1. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenilworthy Posted 21 May, 2023 Share Posted 21 May, 2023 4 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Man City winning the league is a huge shrug of the shoulders for a lot of football fans. It isn’t groundbreaking. Don’t get me wrong it’s very impressive the squad and what they’ve built up. But it’s a little boring now. A bit like Bayern in the Bundesliga and PSG in Ligue 1. Man City fans and the media talking about the treble now as if it is done. I fancy United to win the cup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 May, 2023 Share Posted 21 May, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Man City winning the league is a huge shrug of the shoulders for a lot of football fans. It isn’t groundbreaking. Don’t get me wrong it’s very impressive the squad and what they’ve built up. But it’s a little boring now. A bit like Bayern in the Bundesliga and PSG in Ligue 1. It's boring, but you've got to respect it really. It's not simply down to money either, as seems to be the easy thing to proclaim. Man Utd have spent more than them over the last few years, and let's not even start with Chelsea. They might have money, but they've done it right and they have a manager in place who has raised the level of a lot of those players. When they bought Dias, Rodri, Alvarez, KDB and co they weren't ready made superstars, but he's raised their level massively. That's been the difference for me, you've got Chelsea chasing ready-made superstars, Man Utd going for Ronaldo/Pogba/Casimero etc, but City just doing it another way and developing. I know the piss is taken out of our obsession with Man City and copying them etc, but there is a reason why - they do a lot of good stuff there, money or no money. Edited 21 May, 2023 by S-Clarke 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 22 May, 2023 Share Posted 22 May, 2023 Really want a Leicester win tonight but it's not happening. Their line up is pants. A draw isn't good enough for them and Smith has them set up for a point at best. No Maddison or Barnes. Handing Everton survival on a plate. Still... come on Leicester! Make the last day interesting! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 May, 2023 Share Posted 22 May, 2023 8 minutes ago, SNSUN said: Really want a Leicester win tonight but it's not happening. Their line up is pants. A draw isn't good enough for them and Smith has them set up for a point at best. No Maddison or Barnes. Handing Everton survival on a plate. Still... come on Leicester! Make the last day interesting! Leicester fans have been calling for those two to be dropped for ages, they can't stand either. Their biggest prob with the line up tonight is their midfield, they want Tiliemans dropped as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 22 May, 2023 Share Posted 22 May, 2023 Absolute attack v defence Newcastle v Leicester, still 0-0. Attempts: 23-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 22 May, 2023 Share Posted 22 May, 2023 (edited) Newcastle absolute fuck of a team, get away with countless fouls each game that aren't given cards for. Edited 22 May, 2023 by Lee On Solent Saint missing word 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 22 May, 2023 Share Posted 22 May, 2023 (edited) So Leicester and Leeds both have to win on Sunday and hope Everton don't win and in Leeds case in doing so that the GD swing is enough. Edited 22 May, 2023 by OttawaSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 22 May, 2023 Share Posted 22 May, 2023 I still fancy there to be a twist on Sunday. If Leicester can get the result against West Ham anything other than a win for Everton sends them down. Means I’ll have to cheer on Bournemouth though. Leeds need a hell of a swing to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 May, 2023 Share Posted 22 May, 2023 Just now, bpsaint said: I still fancy there to be a twist on Sunday. If Leicester can get the result against West Ham anything other than a win for Everton sends them down. Means I’ll have to cheer on Bournemouth though. Leeds need a hell of a swing to survive. Leeds need too much to go their way, whilst keeping Harry Kane quiet. Too much for them I think. Still feel that bloody Everton will squeeze themselves out of it though, I see both Leicester and Everton winning on the final day. I think Leicester needed to win tonight to really make Everton stress. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 22 May, 2023 Share Posted 22 May, 2023 Yep a point not the worst result for Leicester due to their superior goal difference over Everton but they still have to hope Everton don't win at Goodison against a Bournemouth side with nothing to play for whilst beating West Ham themselves. Leeds I think are down. I can't see anything other than Everton staying up now though which is a pisser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 22 May, 2023 Share Posted 22 May, 2023 Just now, SNSUN said: Yep a point not the worst result for Leicester due to their superior goal difference over Everton but they still have to hope Everton don't win at Goodison against a Bournemouth side with nothing to play for whilst beating West Ham themselves. Leeds I think are down. I can't see anything other than Everton staying up now though which is a pisser. I would be shocked beyond belief if Everton don't beat Bournemouth on Sunday, will check the odds as I think that's a nailed on home win, Bournemouth won't fancy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 22 May, 2023 Share Posted 22 May, 2023 Bournemouth won’t even fight for a point. It’s done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 22 May, 2023 Share Posted 22 May, 2023 Bournemouth won’t want to do Leeds any favours I’m sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 22 May, 2023 Share Posted 22 May, 2023 19 minutes ago, SNSUN said: Yep a point not the worst result for Leicester due to their superior goal difference over Everton but they still have to hope Everton don't win at Goodison against a Bournemouth side with nothing to play for whilst beating West Ham themselves. Leeds I think are down. I can't see anything other than Everton staying up now though which is a pisser. All this disappointment about Everton staying up. I hate them, but I'd rather not have them in our league next season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southner Posted 22 May, 2023 Share Posted 22 May, 2023 Fuck me, Newcastle are milking this 0-0, aren't they! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 22 May, 2023 Share Posted 22 May, 2023 2 minutes ago, Southner said: Fuck me, Newcastle are milking this 0-0, aren't they! Plucky underdog team reaches glory on a shoestring, giving something for their most special of fans to cheer, because it means more to them than other clubs. What's not to love...oh wait, I had it on for 10mins and turned off when Murphy came on. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southner Posted 22 May, 2023 Share Posted 22 May, 2023 3 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Plucky underdog team reaches glory on a shoestring, giving something for their most special of fans to cheer, because it means more to them than other clubs. What's not to love...oh wait, I had it on for 10mins and turned off when Murphy came on. 🙂 No other team deserves it more. It's amazing what a mere gazmilltrillon bucks can get you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 22 May, 2023 Share Posted 22 May, 2023 32 minutes ago, saint lard said: Bournemouth won’t even fight for a point. It’s done. Yeah Bournemouth will just roll over for Everton, I’ll be amazed if Everton don’t win that 2 or 3-0. Bloody annoying if they do get out of it but on the flip side not sure Everton in the Championship would be great for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 22 May, 2023 Share Posted 22 May, 2023 Just now, Southner said: No other team deserves it more. It's amazing what a mere gazmilltrillon bucks can get you. Of course, a gazmilltrillion isn't what it used to be. It takes more than that to keep up these days. Just ask those guys over there, cooking the Man City books to avoid profitability and sustainability rules by at least that much. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 22 May, 2023 Share Posted 22 May, 2023 26 minutes ago, Southner said: No other team deserves it more. It's amazing what a mere gazmilltrillon bucks can get you. They love a number 9 up there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southner Posted 22 May, 2023 Share Posted 22 May, 2023 18 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Of course, a gazmilltrillion isn't what it used to be. It takes more than that to keep up these days. Just ask those guys over there, cooking the Man City books to avoid profitability and sustainability rules by at least that much. 🙂 Doing these illegals should be illegal. There should be minor fines or suspended transfer bans at the very minimum. Really take 'em to the cleaners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southner Posted 22 May, 2023 Share Posted 22 May, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: They love a number 9 up there. Dwight Gayle, huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 23 May, 2023 Share Posted 23 May, 2023 12 hours ago, egg said: All this disappointment about Everton staying up. I hate them, but I'd rather not have them in our league next season. Everton have been in the top flight for 75ish years, have an expensive new stadium on the horizon and are skint (and awaiting FFP charges). I don't rate their squad much either bar DCL and maybe one or two others and they'd most likely be vultured in the summer. There's a high chance that if Everton went down they'd be in real trouble. I don't think I'd fear Everton next season as much as Leeds and Leicester, who IMO have better 'weapons' in their squad (depending on who they hold on to) than Everton. But sadly it won't happen anyway this season anyway. Leeds and Leicester have left it too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 23 May, 2023 Share Posted 23 May, 2023 3 minutes ago, SNSUN said: Everton have been in the top flight for 75ish years, have an expensive new stadium on the horizon and are skint (and awaiting FFP charges). I don't rate their squad much either bar DCL and maybe one or two others and they'd most likely be vultured in the summer. There's a high chance that if Everton went down they'd be in real trouble. I don't think I'd fear Everton next season as much as Leeds and Leicester, who IMO have better 'weapons' in their squad (depending on who they hold on to) than Everton. But sadly it won't happen anyway this season anyway. Leeds and Leicester have left it too late. Leicester's attempt to give it a go and get the win they needed was pathetic, they waited until injury time almost . It was like watching Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 May, 2023 Share Posted 23 May, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, SNSUN said: Everton have been in the top flight for 75ish years, have an expensive new stadium on the horizon and are skint (and awaiting FFP charges). I don't rate their squad much either bar DCL and maybe one or two others and they'd most likely be vultured in the summer. There's a high chance that if Everton went down they'd be in real trouble. I don't think I'd fear Everton next season as much as Leeds and Leicester, who IMO have better 'weapons' in their squad (depending on who they hold on to) than Everton. But sadly it won't happen anyway this season anyway. Leeds and Leicester have left it too late. Everton are about to secure some investment, plus they have much higher commercial revenue than us - and will bring in much more with a new stadium too. Even though they are skint in relative terms, they still paid more last summer on a single player (Onana) than we have ever spent on a player ourselves. I don't think we should automatically expect Everton to implode if they get relegated, I think it'll be a similar situation to that of Newcastle - they'll have the stature to build a team way too good for that level. I remember the same comments about Newcastle when they got relegated with Duff/Owen and co in the side, they may go all the way down etc - never happened, as they were just too big for that to ever happen to - same will be true of Everton (not that I think it will happen, it'll be the same as it looks today imo). As funny as it would be to see 'today', I think it would have a negative determent on our ability to compete next year - so I hope they stay away. Edited 23 May, 2023 by S-Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 23 May, 2023 Share Posted 23 May, 2023 (edited) Anyone who fancies having a catch-up with Romeu there's Celta Vigo v Girona currently on viaplay xtra (Virgin Channel 553) Romeu just stuck one past Gazzaniga! Edited 23 May, 2023 by alehouseboys GOAL!!!!!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 May, 2023 Share Posted 23 May, 2023 Looks like Wolves are about to fall back into obscurity, this year may have just delayed the inevitable for them. Lopotegui's future in doubt as Wolves can no longer guarantee him any funds to improve or add to the squad - they can only sell this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 23 May, 2023 Share Posted 23 May, 2023 2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Looks like Wolves are about to fall back into obscurity, this year may have just delayed the inevitable for them. Lopotegui's future in doubt as Wolves can no longer guarantee him any funds to improve or add to the squad - they can only sell this summer. Been some shady transfer dealings with Wolves anyway over the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 23 May, 2023 Share Posted 23 May, 2023 21 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Looks like Wolves are about to fall back into obscurity, this year may have just delayed the inevitable for them. Lopotegui's future in doubt as Wolves can no longer guarantee him any funds to improve or add to the squad - they can only sell this summer. They’ll be the next Everton then, they’re going to have to make a lot of sales to balance the books from inflated transfer fees and wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 23 May, 2023 Share Posted 23 May, 2023 They spent £35m on Fabio Silva, £38m on Matheus Nunes, £27.5m on Goncalo Guedes and £37m on Nelson Semedo. Only Nunes isn't a Jorge Mendes client. While he's brought a few unbelievable players to Wolves (Patricio, Moutinho and Neves), he's also saddled them with a lot of shit to boost his own wealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Bates Statue Posted 23 May, 2023 Share Posted 23 May, 2023 I would be willing to bet that a lot of Everton's players don't have relegation clauses. If they go down, it could get painful for them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 24 May, 2023 Share Posted 24 May, 2023 Everton will ignore financial rules, funnel more money in from Usmanov (their real owner) and probably piss the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 24 May, 2023 Share Posted 24 May, 2023 Everton won’t go down. It'll be Leicester and Leeds now. Everton I think have escaped just about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 24 May, 2023 Share Posted 24 May, 2023 1 hour ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Everton won’t go down. It'll be Leicester and Leeds now. Everton I think have escaped just about. The moment has passed. Everton have got a straightforward home tie, an absolute gift. They will win that at which point the other ties are irrelevant. At least one of Leeds or Leicester will win but it won't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 24 May, 2023 Share Posted 24 May, 2023 On 23/05/2023 at 07:33, egg said: All this disappointment about Everton staying up. I hate them, but I'd rather not have them in our league next season. Definitely don't want them in the Championship with us. Bad enough that the calibre of Leicester and Leeds are the more likely to join us - makes the top two automatic places very difficult to achieve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 24 May, 2023 Share Posted 24 May, 2023 16 minutes ago, austsaint said: Definitely don't want them in the Championship with us. Bad enough that the calibre of Leicester and Leeds are the more likely to join us - makes the top two automatic places very difficult to achieve. Leicester are in worse shape than us so not too concerned with them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 24 May, 2023 Author Share Posted 24 May, 2023 17 minutes ago, austsaint said: Definitely don't want them in the Championship with us. Bad enough that the calibre of Leicester and Leeds are the more likely to join us - makes the top two automatic places very difficult to achieve. None of the other three above us are any better than the teams who've gone down in recent seasons. Everton will stay up on 36 points, have been crap all season and money has seemingly dried up. I don't see any real calibre to Leeds and Leicester. Both have looked rudderless all season and will need a serious rethink in summer, same as us. My main hope is that Everton have to sell Pickford to balance the books and next season they're as bad as we are now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 24 May, 2023 Share Posted 24 May, 2023 2 hours ago, skintsaint said: Leicester are in worse shape than us so not too concerned with them. Agree with that. On the whole their squad is much better than ours. That squad is going to be seriously decimated over the summer. Their rebuild will be even bigger than ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 24 May, 2023 Share Posted 24 May, 2023 2 hours ago, skintsaint said: Leicester are in worse shape than us so not too concerned with them. 2 hours ago, Lighthouse said: None of the other three above us are any better than the teams who've gone down in recent seasons. Everton will stay up on 36 points, have been crap all season and money has seemingly dried up. I don't see any real calibre to Leeds and Leicester. Both have looked rudderless all season and will need a serious rethink in summer, same as us. My main hope is that Everton have to sell Pickford to balance the books and next season they're as bad as we are now. Yes, probably right. Leicester have been in decline for a season or two and Leeds, after such a long hiatus in the Championship look likely to return there surprisingly quickly. "Big name" Clubs though, capable of a big push by the time August comes around. As you say, the summer rebuild is crucial for all three relegated Clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 24 May, 2023 Share Posted 24 May, 2023 3 hours ago, CB Fry said: The moment has passed. Everton have got a straightforward home tie, an absolute gift. They will win that at which point the other ties are irrelevant. At least one of Leeds or Leicester will win but it won't matter. They’ll still be that minority on here that play the old “If OnLy We WeNt FoR dYcHe” 😂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 24 May, 2023 Share Posted 24 May, 2023 4 hours ago, skintsaint said: Leicester are in worse shape than us so not too concerned with them. What do you base that on? They have a better squad than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 24 May, 2023 Share Posted 24 May, 2023 2 hours ago, egg said: What do you base that on? They have a better squad than us. Better squad=more high profile departures. Maddison, Barnes, Tielmans, Soyuncu, Castagne, Faes, Iheancho, Daka and Tete. Not going to be pretty for them. Arguably even the likes of Dewsbury-Hall and Justin James might go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 24 May, 2023 Share Posted 24 May, 2023 Well said Southgate about Toney’s ban. Seems ridiculous to ban all contact and if the bloke has a gambling problem then needs help not the cold shoulder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 24 May, 2023 Share Posted 24 May, 2023 Brighton are a billion times better than us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 24 May, 2023 Share Posted 24 May, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hatch said: Brighton are a billion times better than us Pfft even we beat City this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 24 May, 2023 Share Posted 24 May, 2023 37 minutes ago, Hatch said: Brighton are a billion times better than us They look very, very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 24 May, 2023 Share Posted 24 May, 2023 1 hour ago, Suhari said: They look very, very good. How the flying fuck did they get battered by Everton. Who got the brown envelopes for that little hiccup seriously. That’s basically the result that will keep them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 25 May, 2023 Share Posted 25 May, 2023 Spurs, the club which forever keeps on giving. Arne Slot says he wants to stay as Feyenoord manager - ruling himself out of contention for the Tottenham job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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