Tonda Eckert

[Osvaldorama]

Everyone out 

[die Mannyschaft]

Tonda Out Martin In

[Wade Garrett]

He is way out of his depth.  Who would have thought he would follow a similar path to our other laptop wanker managers in Still and Selles.

[coalman]

On a more serious note. It's been nearly 2 months - we're due another manager. Can't believe what Rasmus is thinking keeping him in position so long. Everyone knows managers peak after 5 games and then it's all downhill.

[2Morrow]

Just hire a normal manager, with a normal system. 

A manager that has won games somewhere before over multiple seasons, without an obsession over passing

[Suhari]

Curious how we performed so well a few weeks back. New manager bounce? Whatever....it did look good.

But now.....fuck me, he's proving to be poor. Absolutely zero ability to influence a game and the players are looking more and more clueless.

If we can't get the playoffs we at least need some positivity and momentum going into next season. I can't see Hungry Eyes delivering that.

Get him gone.

[RedArmy]

Time to go you rapey looking fraud. 

[ally_uk]

This is getting beyond embarrassing now.

Dragan either pull the plug and fuck off.

Or get rid of Rasmus and get some proper footballing men and advisors in that includes a manager and staff who are at least experienced at this level.... 

Wake up, our club is being destroyed by Charlatans...

Edited Sunday at 17:13 by ally_uk
Xxx

[Saint86]

1 minute ago, Suhari said:

Curious how we performed so well a few weeks back. New manager bounce? Whatever....it did look good.

But now.....fuck me, he's proving to be poor. Absolutely zero ability to influence a game and the players are looking more and more clueless.

If we can't get the playoffs we at least need some positivity and momentum going into next season. I can't see Hungry Eyes delivering that.

Get him gone.

We didn't. We performed well vs a makeshift Charlton (for 1 half), the worst team in the championship in the midst of a financial implosion with barely enoguh players for a matchday squad, and 10man Leicester.

QPR outplayed us, we were lucky to beat WBA and brum, Millwall deservedly beat us. The warning signs were there and were raised by a fair few of us. Its utterly mental that we gave him a contract beyond the end of the season.

[tdmickey3]

20 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

He is way out of his depth.  Who would have thought he would follow a similar path to our other laptop wanker managers in Still and Selles.

Lots if us

[Mboto Gorge]

There are fans here who could probably do a better job right now than this idiot. It staggering how these owners can make worse and worse decisions each time. Just when you think they can’t make a worse decision or appoint someone worse than what’s gone before, they do. At this stage Nathan Jones is looking like Alf Ramsey

[Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd]

Absolute clown. Why would you sack Still and replace him with another gamble when you had an opportunity to get a manager with experience at this level?

The club is fucked. Rotten from the top to the bottom. 

[Turkish]

any coincidence it’s all gone to shit since he got the job permanently? We didn’t do this slow passing shit when he was auditioning 

[bangkoksaint]

I wonder if Chelsea win tonight that they’ll appoint Calum McFarlane?

[Mboto Gorge]

Oh well at least it’s all nice and cosy now for the players and staff, the players have gotten the guy in that they wanted, knowing they won’t have To bust a gut and can play lovely energy conserving walking football again, just like they enjoyed before. And they can have a nice chilled time under this little boy. For a moment there was a real risk of someone coming in to actually put a rocket up their arses, but that was swiftly snuffed out and now they can enjoy doing as they please again and not over exerting themselves. Great stuff all round. 

Edited Sunday at 17:52 by Mboto Gorge

[Saint NL]

22 minutes ago, Turkish said:

any coincidence it’s all gone to shit since he got the job permanently? We didn’t do this slow passing shit when he was auditioning 

That was around the time Lallana left and went to the under 21s wasn't it? 

 

[Lighthouse]

28 minutes ago, Turkish said:

any coincidence it’s all gone to shit since he got the job permanently? We didn’t do this slow passing shit when he was auditioning 

Yes basically. We lost to Millwall when he was still 'auditioning' then won the next two after he was permanently appointed, so that doesn't correlate. Other teams have done their homework on him and he has failed to improvise and adapt. I was kind of hoping that there might be a bit more to him that what we've seen but apparently not.

[washsaint]

No manager - and I mean no manager - would get a note out of these useless, cowardly bastards.  To call them pathetic would an in insult to the term pathetic.

We have the most mediocre squad that I can remember going back to the Lawrie Mac days with no leaders, no heart and no desire.

I would be quite happy to never see Bazunu, Wood, Manning, Downes, Archer, Fraser, Aribo, Edozie in a Saints shirt again.

Azaz, Armstrong and Fellows have completely turned to shit again and Scienza looks a shadow of his previous self.

Massive job to turn around this sinking ship and I hope Tonda can - but I doubt even Guardiola could.

[pimpin4rizeal]

On 06/12/2025 at 22:03, egg said:

They didn't get the unspecified bloke that you wanted, but they hired a bloke who's won 5 from 6, and who plainly has the players support.

It's a results business. That's it. 

Whining about someone who's delivering results isn't logical. 

How’s that panning out for ya 🥳

[Weston Super Saint]

On 23/11/2025 at 07:48, Weston Super Saint said:

The smart, out of the box thinking thing to do is to NOT give him the job.  Think about it, he's won all his games as an 'interim' manager.  Keep him as 'interim' and we keep winning.  Smart people like Rasmus will understand this.

When you know, you know

If we'd kept him as interim we'd be top of the league now.

Edited Sunday at 18:56 by Weston Super Saint

[Mboto Gorge]

13 minutes ago, washsaint said:

No manager - and I mean no manager - would get a note out of these useless, cowardly bastards.  To call them pathetic would an in insult to the term pathetic.

We have the most mediocre squad that I can remember going back to the Lawrie Mac days with no leaders, no heart and no desire.

I would be quite happy to never see Bazunu, Wood, Manning, Downes, Archer, Fraser, Aribo, Edozie in a Saints shirt again.

Azaz, Armstrong and Fellows have completely turned to shit again and Scienza looks a shadow of his previous self.

Massive job to turn around this sinking ship and I hope Tonda can - but I doubt even Guardiola could.

Agree the players are a joke, but you genuinely don’t think a better manager would be getting better results than we are currently seeing? Really? Funny how wilder taking over at Sheff Utd has improved them 10 fold from the dross Selles was serving up, for example. The manager plays a role, along with the players, clearly. Otherwise why bother having one? 

[benjii]

I feel sorry for him.

[James]

3 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Agree the players are a joke, but you genuinely don’t think a better manager would be getting better results than we are currently seeing? Really? Funny how wilder taking over at Sheff Utd has improved them 10 fold from the dross Selles was serving up, for example. The manager plays a role, along with the players, clearly. Otherwise why bother having one? 

Agree. This whole attitude of “there’s nobody better than Tonda available to us” is utter nonsense.

[S-Clarke]

Just now, Mboto Gorge said:

Agree the players are a joke, but you genuinely don’t think a better manager would be getting better results than we are currently seeing? Really? Funny how wilder taking over at Sheff Utd has improved them 10 fold from the dross Selles was serving up, for example. The manager plays a role, along with the players, clearly. Otherwise why bother having one? 

I think a better manager would look at this squad and say, yeah, I fancy my chances - but we need to do x or y to get the best out of so and so etc.

But the club won't allow that to happen, it has to be done the clubs way - and that's why we only end up with the likes of Tonda. 

We've got a strong squad for this level, but it's not being played correctly and nor is it balanced quite right. We're many levels below what we had under RM, but we're still decent for this league - better than we are right now. So I also can't buy the 'we have loads of rubbish' players argument. We have some, yes, but there are tools to work with here - if someone is allowed to.

[revolution saint]

1 hour ago, Saint86 said:

How's the results working out for you? I wonder, are you still standing by Eckert and attacking any saints fans who dared to raise any concerns with the standard of the performances? 🤔

Wow, you’re brave. Bet you’ve been waiting a couple of weeks just so you could have a pop. How sad.

Anyway, as the quote suggests winning games is the only thing that really counts so yeah criticism is justified at the moment. Quite why that needs to be pointed out is beyond me. Shame you didn’t also read my posts that I wouldn’t have given Tonda the job until at least 10 games in, or the part where I said I had no idea how long the winning run would last and if it didn’t then he’d deserve some stick. Still, you’ve been waiting long enough so I hope that made you happy 

[Harry_SFC]

2 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Agree the players are a joke, but you genuinely don’t think a better manager would be getting better results than we are currently seeing? Really? Funny how wilder taking over at Sheff Utd has improved them 10 fold from the dross Selles was serving up, for example. The manager plays a role, along with the players, clearly. Otherwise why bother having one? 

All we had to do was appoint a decent championship level manager. But we went for someone who has never managed a senior team before. 

We tried to be clever yet again.

SR disasterclass.

[Mr X]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

any coincidence it’s all gone to shit since he got the job permanently? We didn’t do this slow passing shit when he was auditioning 

The players played for him to get the job for a while as they knew they would get an easy ride and could take it easy once he was appointed permanently

Edited Sunday at 18:44 by Mr X

[coalman]

5 hours ago, washsaint said:

No manager - and I mean no manager - would get a note out of these useless, cowardly bastards.  To call them pathetic would an in insult to the term pathetic.

We have the most mediocre squad that I can remember going back to the Lawrie Mac days with no leaders, no heart and no desire.

I would be quite happy to never see Bazunu, Wood, Manning, Downes, Archer, Fraser, Aribo, Edozie in a Saints shirt again.

Azaz, Armstrong and Fellows have completely turned to shit again and Scienza looks a shadow of his previous self.

Massive job to turn around this sinking ship and I hope Tonda can - but I doubt even Guardiola could.

The reason they got this way is because our culture is broken. When all roads lead to Rasmus nobody needs to take responsibility. When you keep getting managers who want to be your pal and don't offer direct feedback nobody grows. When your manager stands up after every game and says we played really well then nobody learns. When there isn't some angry bastard kicking lumps out of you in training because you're not fully committed you never learn to play with intensity. When you can blame bad luck there's no need to change. When you fire the manager every few months there's no incentive to build working relationships - just to learn how to maneuver to gain favour with this next manager.

You can see it in the way their heads go down at the first sign of adversity or when we haven't blown the other team away in the first half. You see it in the way that it's about getting rid of the ball, not progressing it. You see it in the way that nobody tracks runners into the box. You see it in the way nobody challenges the player crossing the ball.

Any manager coming in has to address this rotten culture before any progress can be made.

Edited yesterday at 00:20 by coalman

[CB Fry]

At least we know the output of the AI Prompt "can you do Marek Saganowski but as a manager"

[egg]

23 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

How’s that panning out for ya 🥳

He was getting results then. He isn't now. There's a discussion up there ^^ about the possible reasons for the drop off. 

[Mboto Gorge]

23 minutes ago, coalman said:

The reason they got this way is because our culture is broken. When all roads lead to Rasmus nobody needs to take responsibility. When you keep getting managers who want to be your pal and don't offer direct feedback nobody grows. When your manager stands up after every game and says we played really well then nobody learns. When there isn't some angry bastard kicking lumps out of you in training because you're not fully committed you never learn to play with intensity. When you fire the manager every few months there's no incentive to build working relationships - just to learn how to maneuver to gain favour with this next manager.

You can see it in the way their heads go down at the first sign of adversity or when we haven't blown the other team away in the first half. You see it in the way that it's about getting rid of the ball, not progressing it. You see it in the way that nobody tracks runners into the box. You see it in the way nobody challenges the player crossing the ball.

Any manager coming in has to address this rotten culture before any progress can be made.

Great post, exactly this. The culture is horrific and it all stems from the top 

[HarvSFC]

My issue is, is that this run of fixtures has been quite favourable. We've seemingly faced teams at the right time, out of form, like us and been outclassed and outthought each time with little to shout about.

Norwich - 23rd in the league and if not for Sheffield Wednesday would have been bottom, won 1 of their previous 16 before we rocked up. They did have a new manager bounce, but they're still only 22nd now. We should be beating them, yet they saw us off comfortably, Manning's goal gave us some hope, but Norwich won deservedly.

Coventry - Top of the league, yet they've suffered recently. 2 wins from their last 8 and played 40 minutes against us with 10 men. Yet, again, we didn't do enough to win the match and didn't test Rushworth or create enough chances to beat them.

Oxford - Sacked their manager days before we played. Against another amateur manager in Craig Short, who hasn't had a full time managerial job since 2010. They've suffered 2 defeats from 2 games since playing us, they've lost 5 of their last 7. They've won 2 of their last 13. Really poor result.

Birmingham - ANOTHER out of form side? Surely not. Today was their first win in 8 games. They've lost 4 of those 8. Yet, we went up there and gave them the run of the park. If not for Kyogo's misses they beat us comfortably.

Millwall - The theme is still going. With today's results Millwall have won 2 from 7. They have an old school manager in Alex Neil and he's done Tonda twice. Can't remember us having a shot on target against them in the second half at home while Bazunu did the unthinkable.

Middlesbrough - On a run of 3 losses from 4. Hadn't scored in any of those fixtures. So, up rolls the Southampton charity club. Smashed us 4-0 to reignite their season.

Adding context to this run makes it a lot more bleak than it actually is. We aren't losing every week to in form Premier League side's with millions of pounds pumped into their squads anymore. We're losing comfortably to Championship side's on bad run's with a fraction of the resources we have available.

 

 

 

[Osvaldorama]

49 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

My issue is, is that this run of fixtures has been quite favourable. We've seemingly faced teams at the right time, out of form, like us and been outclassed and outthought each time with little to shout about.

Norwich - 23rd in the league and if not for Sheffield Wednesday would have been bottom, won 1 of their previous 16 before we rocked up. They did have a new manager bounce, but they're still only 22nd now. We should be beating them, yet they saw us off comfortably, Manning's goal gave us some hope, but Norwich won deservedly.

Coventry - Top of the league, yet they've suffered recently. 2 wins from their last 8 and played 40 minutes against us with 10 men. Yet, again, we didn't do enough to win the match and didn't test Rushworth or create enough chances to beat them.

Oxford - Sacked their manager days before we played. Against another amateur manager in Craig Short, who hasn't had a full time managerial job since 2010. They've suffered 2 defeats from 2 games since playing us, they've lost 5 of their last 7. They've won 2 of their last 13. Really poor result.

Birmingham - ANOTHER out of form side? Surely not. Today was their first win in 8 games. They've lost 4 of those 8. Yet, we went up there and gave them the run of the park. If not for Kyogo's misses they beat us comfortably.

Millwall - The theme is still going. With today's results Millwall have won 2 from 7. They have an old school manager in Alex Neil and he's done Tonda twice. Can't remember us having a shot on target against them in the second half at home while Bazunu did the unthinkable.

Middlesbrough - On a run of 3 losses from 4. Hadn't scored in any of those fixtures. So, up rolls the Southampton charity club. Smashed us 4-0 to reignite their season.

Adding context to this run makes it a lot more bleak than it actually is. We aren't losing every week to in form Premier League side's with millions of pounds pumped into their squads anymore. We're losing comfortably to Championship side's on bad run's with a fraction of the resources we have available.

 

 

 

Yep. As bad as it gets. 
 

Where on earth do we go from here? 

[Badger]

3 hours ago, Suhari said:

Curious how we performed so well a few weeks back. New manager bounce? Whatever....it did look good.

 

3 hours ago, Turkish said:

any coincidence it’s all gone to shit since he got the job permanently? We didn’t do this slow passing shit when he was auditioning 

This is the mystery for me. 
Will the real Tonda (and his tactics) please stand up ? 

Oh, and Rasmus, please fuck off. 

[Pamplemousse]

Changing the manager again is pointless with these useless players.

The summer was a missed opportunity to wield the axe completely.

Defence needs a major overhaul.

I won't give up on THB yet but Stephens and Wood need to be sold. Quarshie is young but will improve.

And just sign a fucking competent experienced defender who can win a header, tackle and block when needed. 

Manning can fuck off as well. Useless is being kind.

[Badger]

2 hours ago, benjii said:

I feel sorry for him.

Yes, for the sake of his own sanity and career, he’d be better off telling the club to stick it. He seems a nice enough bloke, and doesn’t need his CV tarnished by the fuckwits directing operations at SFC. 
 

The blame rests with Rasmus and Spors. 

[Badger]

11 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Where on earth do we go from here? 

The big question. 
 

Aim to get rid of Rasmus, and co. 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

1 hour ago, Badger said:

Yes, for the sake of his own sanity and career, he’d be better off telling the club to stick it. He seems a nice enough bloke, and doesn’t need his CV tarnished by the fuckwits directing operations at SFC. 
 

The blame rests with Rasmus and Spors. 

Your fogetting Solak. He's just as responsible for this shitshow as those other twats.

[Dr Who?]

Has to be the owners that need to be removed now. Tonda is here until the end of the season at least. We need to up the protests and try and remove the board and owners. That will not happen on this board, but on the wider more powerful social media. 

[hypochondriac]

9 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Your fogetting Solak. He's just as responsible for this shitshow as those other twats.

At least he's put his own money in.

[Mr X]

3 hours ago, HarvSFC said:

My issue is, is that this run of fixtures has been quite favourable. We've seemingly faced teams at the right time, out of form, like us and been outclassed and outthought each time with little to shout about.

Norwich - 23rd in the league and if not for Sheffield Wednesday would have been bottom, won 1 of their previous 16 before we rocked up. They did have a new manager bounce, but they're still only 22nd now. We should be beating them, yet they saw us off comfortably, Manning's goal gave us some hope, but Norwich won deservedly.

Coventry - Top of the league, yet they've suffered recently. 2 wins from their last 8 and played 40 minutes against us with 10 men. Yet, again, we didn't do enough to win the match and didn't test Rushworth or create enough chances to beat them.

Oxford - Sacked their manager days before we played. Against another amateur manager in Craig Short, who hasn't had a full time managerial job since 2010. They've suffered 2 defeats from 2 games since playing us, they've lost 5 of their last 7. They've won 2 of their last 13. Really poor result.

Birmingham - ANOTHER out of form side? Surely not. Today was their first win in 8 games. They've lost 4 of those 8. Yet, we went up there and gave them the run of the park. If not for Kyogo's misses they beat us comfortably.

Millwall - The theme is still going. With today's results Millwall have won 2 from 7. They have an old school manager in Alex Neil and he's done Tonda twice. Can't remember us having a shot on target against them in the second half at home while Bazunu did the unthinkable.

Middlesbrough - On a run of 3 losses from 4. Hadn't scored in any of those fixtures. So, up rolls the Southampton charity club. Smashed us 4-0 to reignite their season.

Adding context to this run makes it a lot more bleak than it actually is. We aren't losing every week to in form Premier League side's with millions of pounds pumped into their squads anymore. We're losing comfortably to Championship side's on bad run's with a fraction of the resources we have available.

 

 

 

This is such a key point and shows exactly how far we have fallen! So much so that just staying in this league will be considered an achievement with Tonda and SR at the helm! 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

12 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

At least he's put his own money in.

Still doesn't excuse him from this fuckin mess. Guy is no better than the other wankers running the club. If he has put his own money in, he should have been more careful with who he trusted to spend it. If he ran his other businesses like he does us, am surprised he made any money at all.

Edited Sunday at 23:06 by Lee On Solent Saint

[pimpin4rizeal]

6 hours ago, 2Morrow said:

Just hire a normal manager, with a normal system. 

A manager that has won games somewhere before over multiple seasons, without an obsession over passing

Id take someone like Alex Neil at Millwall tbh knows how to set up a team properly even without having a bunch of stars.. double his wages and get him in 

Edited Sunday at 23:23 by pimpin4rizeal

[hypochondriac]

42 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Still doesn't excuse him from this fuckin mess. Guy is no better than the other wankers running the club. If he has put his own money in, he should have been more careful with who he trusted to spend it. If he ran his other businesses like he does us, am surprised he made any money at all.

He is demonstrably better than the other wankers running the club. He has a share of the blame for sure but it's just not correct to say he is no better than the others.

[trousers]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

At least he's put his own money in.

I'm not convinced the "yeah, but he's put a lot of money in" mantra absolves him of maximum criticism. The fact he's spaffed so much money up the wall due to his poor judgement of business partners makes him less, rather than more, credible in my eyes.

Edited yesterday at 00:03 by trousers

[benali-shorts]

3 minutes ago, trousers said:

I'm not convinced the "yeah, but he's put a lot of money in" mantra absolves him of maximum criticism. The fact he's spaffed so much money up the wall due to his poor judgement of business partners makes him less, rather than more, credible in my eyes.

I agree. Completely incapable of putting an effective management team in place and seemed to be sucked in by Ankersen and Kraft’s bullshit. He’s the most culpable of all. God knows how he built his media company. 

[coalman]

18 minutes ago, trousers said:

I'm not convinced the "yeah, but he's put a lot of money in" mantra absolves him of maximum criticism. The fact he's spaffed so much money up the wall due to his poor judgement of business partners makes him less, rather than more, credible in my eyes.

I think he's brought in Rasmus and co because he knows he doesn't understand football. He's backed them financially. He's continued backing them despite last season. And, you can argue that's a good thing as, we did get promoted back up and he has trusted them to fix their mistakes. Which you want to an extent.

The problem becomes one of being ruthless versus the sunk cost fallacy. At a certain point you'd have to think you've spent enough on players and changed managers enough that maybe the problem lies elsewhere.

But then, Tonda genuinely seemed to be happy with our football in the first half. And I seriously doubt Mr Football's board updates bear much resemblance to reality. Solak will be hampered by the people he trusted to run this for him sharing selectively. Without another line of information he's going to reliant on those that are the problem.

Which is the problem with being rich and going into a business you know nothing about with people who talk a good game. Or so they tell me.

Edited yesterday at 00:21 by coalman

[woodsaint1]

I think we can stop looking up the table. Only 9 points above the relegation zone which will no doubt be less by the time we lose at Fratton (guaranteed with our mentally weak team). Its pretty dire right now.

Do I think somebody else could take the job and get us playing better and win more games than TE? Yes, but then the worry is we have another short term fix situation (like we did with Mark Hughes) and we'll be looking for their replacement this time next season at best.

Unless we can appoint a manager who has the credentials to get us promoted next season (and I dont trust SR to get it right), we're likely stuck with TE for the season. Need to just hope he can get enough results for us to stay in the league. Embarrassing that it has come to this.

[hypochondriac]

51 minutes ago, trousers said:

I'm not convinced the "yeah, but he's put a lot of money in" mantra absolves him of maximum criticism. The fact he's spaffed so much money up the wall due to his poor judgement of business partners makes him less, rather than more, credible in my eyes.

It doesn't absolve him of criticism but it definitely absolves him of some criticism. He's not exactly a Rupert Lowe character using dodgy reverse takeovers to line his pockets at the expense of the club.

[hypochondriac]

47 minutes ago, benali-shorts said:

I agree. Completely incapable of putting an effective management team in place and seemed to be sucked in by Ankersen and Kraft’s bullshit. He’s the most culpable of all. God knows how he built his media company. 

The most culpable of all? Give it a rest. Again, he is worthy of some criticism but he's put his money into the club.