mrfahaji Posted 26 April, 2017 Share Posted 26 April, 2017 Wasn't my question, and didn't directly relate to us. Given this season, Silva would be more sort after than Puel. Even more so if he keeps them up The reason I said "Puel?" earlier is because your statement says "90% of Chairmen would choose the former", and Puel is "the former", seemed counterintuitive to the point you were trying to make! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 26 April, 2017 Share Posted 26 April, 2017 As you can probably tell, I meant latter. I should really proof read before I press send Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 26 April, 2017 Share Posted 26 April, 2017 Yep, he can keep us in a relegation battle..... Funny to me, Silva seems much more a "Southampton Way" type manager than Puel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 26 April, 2017 Share Posted 26 April, 2017 Funny to me, Silva seems much more a "Southampton Way" type manager than Puel. Agreed. Given what Silva has been able to do with what's been available to him at Hull I'd love to see what he'd do for us. We won't be getting rid of Puel though so no point in even allowing ourselves to wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 26 April, 2017 Share Posted 26 April, 2017 3 points and a clean sheet otherwise Puel really can **** off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 26 April, 2017 Share Posted 26 April, 2017 This is the sort of game I expect Gabbi to shine and punish any mistakes a shaky Hull defence make. That being said we all remember games like QPR and Cardiff at home in the past few years when an awful team has done a job on us so hopefully we don't underestimate them. 3-1 Saints I reckon, us to go 2-0 up, they score to make it a nervy finish before Yoshi grabs the third Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 26 April, 2017 Share Posted 26 April, 2017 5-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 26 April, 2017 Share Posted 26 April, 2017 Funny to me, Silva seems much more a "Southampton Way" type manager than Puel. Seconded. And has charisma/personality; something very missing in 'Mr interesting Possibilities' Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 26 April, 2017 Share Posted 26 April, 2017 Seconded. And has charisma/personality; something very missing in 'Mr interesting Possibilities' Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It would be 'interesting' to know how many times Claude has used the word 'interesting' this season. Said with my tongue in my cheek as his English is a damn sight better than my French and at least he is making an effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 26 April, 2017 Share Posted 26 April, 2017 Mike Dean is the referee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 27 April, 2017 Share Posted 27 April, 2017 Mike Dean is the referee there's a negative before the game has even began, I cannot stand Mike Dean, remember Bournemouth away last year Saints fans rightfully letting him know he'd got a decision wrong to which he responded by pretending to yawn. His main objective in a game seems to be to make himself centre of attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 27 April, 2017 Share Posted 27 April, 2017 Mike Dean is the referee Spurs must be gutted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 27 April, 2017 Share Posted 27 April, 2017 As you can probably tell, I meant latter. I should really proof read before I press send Seems as though it was only Hull that wanted him unless he turned down some of the football giants to join them... I think he`s ok but not some kind of genius as some are suggesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 April, 2017 Share Posted 27 April, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 27 April, 2017 Share Posted 27 April, 2017 Seems as though it was only Hull that wanted him unless he turned down some of the football giants to join them... I think he`s ok but not some kind of genius as some are suggesting You're making stuff up again. At no point have I labeled him as a 'genius'. I, and many others I'm sure, think he's done a great job with Hull. He's got them playing good football, and achieved some fantastic results (mostly at home it has to be said) with the limited ability he has in his squad. Do I think he has done a better job than Puel? Yes. As I have said previously, based on this season, his (Silva's) stock would have risen and IMO would be a more attractive proposition to clubs looking for a new manager this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWade Posted 27 April, 2017 Share Posted 27 April, 2017 Hassen and Caceres in please. Changes need to be made defensively. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I agree with Hassen, but I don't think Stephens and Yoshida need to be swapped. On the whole they've performed very well together! Fraser Forster on the other hand, I don't know what's happened to him this season! I don't see why we can't give Hassen a go now, because in my opinion, he can't be any worse than Fraser has been as of late! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 27 April, 2017 Share Posted 27 April, 2017 (edited) You're making stuff up again. At no point have I labeled him as a 'genius'. I, and many others I'm sure, think he's done a great job with Hull. He's got them playing good football, and achieved some fantastic results (mostly at home it has to be said) with the limited ability he has in his squad. Do I think he has done a better job than Puel? Yes. As I have said previously, based on this season, his (Silva's) stock would have risen and IMO would be a more attractive proposition to clubs looking for a new manager this summer. I never said you labelled him a genius , read it again, i said some... If he keeps them up he will be higher rated but if not, i doubt he will be so fancied Edited 27 April, 2017 by ALWAYS_SFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 27 April, 2017 Share Posted 27 April, 2017 I never said you labelled him a genius , read it again, i said some... If he keeps them up he will be higher rated but if not, i doubt he will be so fancied I assume you were away or asleep for the first half of the season. The fact he has given them an opportunity of survival (along with his style of play) will have raised his stake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 27 April, 2017 Share Posted 27 April, 2017 (edited) No Hull are absolutely shocking away. 7 points all season scoring 9 in 17 games. Conceding nearly 6 a game away! That's the most conceded by any team in the premier league. That is a lot. 3-0. Or they may get 1 out of complete determination. Edited 27 April, 2017 by Dr Who? Being nice to Hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 27 April, 2017 Share Posted 27 April, 2017 I assume you were away or asleep for the first half of the season. The fact he has given them an opportunity of survival (along with his style of play) will have raised his stake. Yep they were terrible and now he has improved them to.......... 4th from bottom, better but not as good as you want to make out and tbh it could only get better from earlier in the season. Lets be honest if Sunderland and Boro were`nt so utter garbage the team would still be similarly placed to earlier in the season... but you dress it up how you like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 27 April, 2017 Share Posted 27 April, 2017 Yep they were terrible and now he has improved them to.......... 4th from bottom, better but not as good as you want to make out and tbh it could only get better from earlier in the season. Lets be honest if Sunderland and Boro were`nt so utter garbage the team would still be similarly placed to earlier in the season... but you dress it up how you like Just admit you were wrong and let's move on. Silva took over a horrendous squad and a team with 1 win in 18. Hes since picked up 20 points in 14 games. His return is better than Puels (1.43 per game vs Puels 1.25) With a season he'd be on course to reach 54 points, 7 more than us. With the respective squads that's ridiculous. Don't just argue mate, get an opinion on something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 27 April, 2017 Share Posted 27 April, 2017 Yep they were terrible and now he has improved them to.......... 4th from bottom, better but not as good as you want to make out and tbh it could only get better from earlier in the season. Lets be honest if Sunderland and Boro were`nt so utter garbage the team would still be similarly placed to earlier in the season... but you dress it up how you like Marco Silva was appointed on 5 January which was in advance of week 21 of games in the Prem. If you look at the form table since Silva took over Hull would be 8th. They were in the bottom three when he took over so he has clearly made a massive difference, to say otherwise is silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 27 April, 2017 Share Posted 27 April, 2017 No Hull are absolutely shocking away. 7 points all season scoring 9 in 17 games. Conceding nearly 6 a game away! That's the most conceded by any team in the premier league. That is a lot. 3-0. Or they may get 1 out of complete determination. Without even looking at the stats I know for a fact they don't average conceding nearly 6 every time they play away. If so they'd have had to have been on the end of some massive hidings, and I can't recall any other than the Bournemouth game. Granted they aren't very good away but you've done some terrible arithmetic to come up with that stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 27 April, 2017 Share Posted 27 April, 2017 If it's better than this City - Utd bilge fest, then we'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 Without even looking at the stats I know for a fact they don't average conceding nearly 6 every time they play away. If so they'd have had to have been on the end of some massive hidings, and I can't recall any other than the Bournemouth game. Granted they aren't very good away but you've done some terrible arithmetic to come up with that stat. interested to know where he got the figures from... I thought maybe he did total goals conceded / home games played but even that only works out at about 4 per game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 Just admit you were wrong and let's move on. Silva took over a horrendous squad and a team with 1 win in 18. Hes since picked up 20 points in 14 games. His return is better than Puels (1.43 per game vs Puels 1.25) With a season he'd be on course to reach 54 points, 7 more than us. With the respective squads that's ridiculous. Don't just argue mate, get an opinion on something. Irony at its best I just don t rate him as highly as you, if that offends you i don`t care, he is good but not some kind of legend and we will see if he makes them top ten next season if they stay up.. hope so as i like Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 Decent article from Mr Crook on why Forster and Stephens should take a spell out of the team for this game. http://www.espnfc.com/club/southampton/376/blog/post/3113650/southampton-must-take-fraser-forster-and-jack-stephens-out-of-the-firing-line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 Decent article from Mr Crook on why Forster and Stephens should take a spell out of the team for this game. http://www.espnfc.com/club/southampton/376/blog/post/3113650/southampton-must-take-fraser-forster-and-jack-stephens-out-of-the-firing-line oh no, not give stephens a rest??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 What is this 'on the whole they've performed well'? On what criteria? We've conceded a hatful of chances and a lot of goals. Any remotely strong strikers bully them all day long. Why have people's standards dropped so low so quickly? Either could do an ok job next to VVD, but the two of them together has been really dodgy. Our points have come against really poor teams and massive off days for opposition finishing. The only game where the opposition didn't create a lot was sunderland away. I'd say they've done a fair job, Yoshi in particular has been genuinely very good by anyone's standards, not just third-choice CB standard. Stephens has done better than many expect, not amazing but he's done a job. It doesn't look as though Cacares will be here next season so it makes sense to give Stephens as much experience as possible because it's very unlikely that he'll be playing that many games next season (assuming our board has learned its lesson from the CB situation this year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 Why have we bothered with Caceres? I just don't get it. Why not give him a chance? He's clearly good. And how does Puel not see Forster's failings? Just so odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 Why have we bothered with Caceres? I just don't get it. Why not give him a chance? He's clearly good. And how does Puel not see Forster's failings? Just so odd. He clearly was good. But hasn't played a serious competitive match for a year, for most of which he didn't even have a club. We don't know that he's good now. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 Why have we bothered with Caceres? I just don't get it. Why not give him a chance? He's clearly good. And how does Puel not see Forster's failings? Just so odd. How is he clearly good ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 Puel in Hull build up it was interesting to see Boufal start against chelsea Wanted to see if he has made progress and against a team like chelsea he has not played many games and suffered tightness I was satisfied with his performance, he is a talented player he has to find a good balance with the simple game and the ability he has it is important for any player to have a run of games, it is difficult to give game time to all players Boufal has been injured and it meant he could not find consistency He was injured in December, and had to build up his fitness he must continue his progress in training with the same attitude and spirit I have spoken with him a lot about his improvement he is like ben-Arfa for me, a talented player. He can make the difference as he has the ability he must find the right balance in his game. It is difficult and we encourage him Boufal can play in the same position as Hazard. Hazard found the right balance in his game very quickly and matured a lot more quickly Hazard found consistency early too and good focus, sofiane can make good progress and see where he can go he must learn to play simple at the right time Important game after 2 losses as we want to finish in the top half of the table We have to show improvement in front of our own fans we need to improve in both penalty areas as this game will be just as hard as the last two games Hull are a good team with good players their manager has done very well there and they won their last game with 10 players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 Sounds like Boufal will start again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 How is he clearly good ? Seemed ok v Chelsea youngsters Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 Sounds like Boufal will start again? Yep, and I think he should. If our record signing isn't suitable for a home game like Hull then something is clearly up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 Yep' date=' and I think he should. If our record signing isn't suitable for a home game like Hull then something is clearly up.[/quote'] Sweepstake on when he asks to be subbed off? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 Would really like to see some clinicalness from Saints, by putting hull comfortably to the sword. If we can't beat Hull at home you'd really have to wonder how poor our final league position will end up being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 He clearly was good. But hasn't played a serious competitive match for a year, for most of which he didn't even have a club. We don't know that he's good now. Looked class in the u23 games. I know that's not a great test but its clear that he is still at least capable of playing to a decent standard after his bad injury. I hope he gets a chance before the end of the season, but if he does it will only be because Stephens or Yoshida are injured or suspended because they are not doing anything to warrant them being dropped. Personally hope we offer him a contract for next season as well, he is clearly a top class defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 Why have we bothered with Caceres? We have bothered with Cácares because we REALLY needed a backup CB. It would have been madness to continue the season without, given the obvious chances for injury or suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 I would pick: Forster Cedric Caceres (just out of interest) Yoshi Bertrand Romeu Clasie Tadic Boufal Redmond Gabbi Bench: Hassan Stephens McQueen JWP Davis Long Sims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 We have bothered with Cácares because we REALLY needed a backup CB. It would have been madness to continue the season without, given the obvious chances for injury or suspension. I thought he'd get fit and then be a shoo in for a first team place given his experience and am disappointed he hasn't even had 15 minutes on the pitch. Are we penny pinching about pay as you play? Or do we not like naughty boys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 Yeah, I must admit I'd have expected him to get in as well. Although soon after he arrived we were 'safe' and there was no urgent need for him anymore. I think we would have seen more if him if we'd been in a tough relegation battle as was feared for a few minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 I would pick: Forster Cedric Caceres (just out of interest) Yoshi Bertrand Romeu Clasie Tadic Boufal Redmond Gabbi Bench: Hassan Stephens McQueen JWP Davis Long Sims I'd go with that starting line up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
way down south Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 Yep' date=' and I think he should. If our record signing isn't suitable for a home game like Hull then something is clearly up.[/quote'] This. IMO he's exactly the type of forward theoretically to unlock what will likely be a packed defence like hull's. He combines pace and skill very well, its the physical and team play part of his game that needs work. I think we have seen enough to suggest he can make it here in due time. At least i hope so, we very rarely sign such naturally talented players in attack. Would be such a pity if he ends up being another gaston. His temprement makes me uneasy tho, seems to be too easily frustrated. Anyway lets hope he puts on a show like the sunderland and middlesbrough games. Enough of those types of performances and he'll be near irreplaceable for us like vvd... then well its off to either liverpool, city, manure or any number of them lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 I would pick: Forster Cedric Caceres (just out of interest) Yoshi Bertrand Romeu Clasie Tadic Boufal Redmond Gabbi Bench: Hassan Stephens McQueen JWP Davis Long Sims Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 No Bertrand in the training pics. Sore throat maybe from a Claude throttle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 No Hull are absolutely shocking away. 7 points all season scoring 9 in 17 games. Conceding nearly 6 a game away! That's the most conceded by any team in the premier league. Your claim... - Hull conceding 6 per game away from home - Hull have played 17 home league games this season - 6 x 17 = 102 away goals conceded Reality -Hull have conceded 41 away league goals this season - An average of 2.4 away goals conceded this season ............. I'm puzzled how you came up with a figure of an average of 6 per game and thought that sounded credible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 I thought he'd get fit and then be a shoo in for a first team place given his experience and am disappointed he hasn't even had 15 minutes on the pitch. Are we penny pinching about pay as you play? Or do we not like naughty boys? That's my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 28 April, 2017 Share Posted 28 April, 2017 As anyone will have seen, our home record is very poor. Above the three relegation sides and not much else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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