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Billy Sharp ' Saints deal wasn't right'


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No, that makes no sense at all. Clubs might pay a player to leave when they just want to get their wages off their books, but not when they are one of their best assets and moving on to a bigger club. If Donny said, we will pay you £500k to leave, Saints would say "hang on, we're not paying £3.25m if you are willing to accept £2.75m". It's a complete nonsense.

 

It depends how much Donny need the money. Any arrangements between Sharp & Donny will be nothing to do with Saints. Donny accepted our bid because they want the money. Saints will be happy because Sharp will sign on our terms. £2.75m is a lot of money to a club the size of Doncaster.

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they do offer players part or all of their loyalty bonus when they leave...if they have not put a transfer request in

players who do put a transfer request in negate that money

 

lets look at modric and will he/wont he go to chelea...if he does NOT put a transfer request in, spurs will have to stump up large amount to satisfy an acceptable part of his loyalty bonus should he move to chelsea...probably why modric has yet to put in a transfer request

 

Yes, but any payments due like that will be priced into the deal when the selling club decides what they will or won't accept.

 

Having already accepted £3.25m, Donny aren't now going to go, "tell you what Billy, we'll give you £500k of that if you leave".

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Yes, but any payments due like that will be priced into the deal when the selling club decides what they will or won't accept.

 

Having already accepted £3.25m, Donny aren't now going to go, "tell you what Billy, we'll give you £500k of that if you leave".

 

fuk knows....then

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It's hard enough for us fans to know what those players are on so how would BS know? I guess he could have asked

 

 

Yes. Up to us whether we tell him or not, but we know those wage-matching clauses exist in football.

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I can see a newly promoted Premier League club paying £4 - £5 million for Maynard. Would a Championship club (other than Leicester) pay that money for him? No. City are holding out for a Premier League club to buy him.

 

Danny Graham has a better goalscoring record and went for just over £3 million.

 

I'd spunk £4 mill on him, I think Maynard is a decent player and could add a bit of pace to the side. £5 mill is a bit steep but it is due to the transfer climate as it is and the new uk player rulings thats what you pay.

 

I do however think that both Barnard and Guly have a lot of potential to do damage in this division this year, but for me the jury is out for Lambert.

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Yes. Up to us whether we tell him or not, but we know those wage-matching clauses exist in football.

 

This

 

I was going to post that in my 1st post.

 

He only has to turn around and say I must be paid at least as much as the highest earner OR on the flipside, I will only come for £x and then we may have to uprate Lallana, Fonte etc who all could equally be on a similar highest earner deal ?

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I'd spunk £4 mill on him, I think Maynard is a decent player and could add a bit of pace to the side. £5 mill is a bit steep but it is due to the transfer climate as it is and the new uk player rulings thats what you pay.

 

I do however think that both Barnard and Guly have a lot of potential to do damage in this division this year, but for me the jury is out for Lambert.

 

I remain to be convinced Maynard is worth £4 million. He's definitely not worth £5 million. I really think we can do better with less money on a striker from abroad.

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I reckon he realises that he has missed out on his duty free and he is having regrets..

 

If he had joined us he would have been in Switzerland now. On the way back he could have topped up on his duty frees.

 

Instead Doncaster had their first match of pre season at Armthorpe(is that where Last of the Summer Winne is based?) and their next pre season game is at Barrow. Life in the fast lane at Donny!

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He is an alright player, has a decent scoring record. But he isn't worth £3.25m......Graham who was the top scorer in the league went for about that and he scored 9 more league goals then him.

 

The same goes for Maynard. he was injured for most of last season.

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Having read the article it seems he was not offered a salary he thought he was worth and/or he was given no guarantee that he would be first choice but a squad player. I am sure we will not alter our terms. We walked away because of whatever issue it was and so did he.

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Does anyone have any idea what the 'Top' rate being paid to a Saints player is at present? I was told (recently) that it is £15000 per week and that's why CMS and Billy didn't want to come here. Why the hell would the '****ehawks' pay £22000 (Allegedly) per week to CMS? Compare the Prem 'Posers' to the Championship and its only the wages at Leicester that fall into line.

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"Southampton are a big club and had the deal been right then I would have negotiated with them but it wasn't."

 

So he didn't speak to us, assuming it was just the agent we spoke to. Obviously tried his luck for a high wage or/and contract and we backed down. Sounds like that piece was a please offer again and I'll reduce my demands.

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Ha, you say that, but the Skates paid Spurs for Asmir Begovic to join Stoke.

 

I'm pretty sure what actually happened was that Spurs paid the Skate Cheats £1m for Begovic, only for them to sell Begovic to Stoke.

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Reckon we just missed ourselves another Puncheon...

 

Not even in the same league as that moaning little bast*rd.

 

Puncheon has not 'felt right' at any club he has ever been at.

 

Sense says that Billy's agent tried it on a little too hard, I have no bad blood for Mr Sharpe for that, he is at the relegation favourites and we are on the up, its his loss not ours, and tbf, if and when donny get relegated I expect he will get a move anyways.

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The main thing im taking from this is that we're willing to spend 3.25 million on a player!! It's unheard of!

 

Absolutely what I was going to say!! Dead chuffed and if I remember Delgado was signed after an OS poll where we all voted for 'break the bank for a star striker'

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Very similar price to what Agustin Delgado cost.

 

But it doesn't happen here much, in the last few years we've struggled to get the funds for a bloody loan signing, so to see us able to go in with these size of bids is reassuring for our future.

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I'd spunk £4 mill on him, I think Maynard is a decent player and could add a bit of pace to the side. £5 mill is a bit steep but it is due to the transfer climate as it is and the new uk player rulings thats what you pay.

 

I do however think that both Barnard and Guly have a lot of potential to do damage in this division this year, but for me the jury is out for Lambert.

 

I have not seen anything from Barnard that shows this potential, Guly I fully accept. Connolley showed for me the short comings in Barnard and Lambert, something that has not gone unnoticed with Adkins in our pursuit of a pacey striker. For this type of money I can see us picking up far better on the continent. The big question will be whether Lambert is truly injury free this season and can perform to this level, because last years performances will not be good enough. Then again, how much can we get out of Connolley?

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"Southampton are a big club and had the deal been right then I would have negotiated with them but it wasn't."

 

So he didn't speak to us, assuming it was just the agent we spoke to. Obviously tried his luck for a high wage or/and contract and we backed down. Sounds like that piece was a please offer again and I'll reduce my demands.

 

My opinion would be that we were not prepared to pay his agents fees for the move, something he could be contractually committed for? I would be sure for the right player that this could be over come, but I just don't feel Sharp is that player.

 

We have too many forwards already with a injury history that is not optimum. I just cannot see the logic in adding one more to that list?

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I have not seen anything from Barnard that shows this potential, Guly I fully accept. Connolley showed for me the short comings in Barnard and Lambert, something that has not gone unnoticed with Adkins in our pursuit of a pacey striker. For this type of money I can see us picking up far better on the continent. The big question will be whether Lambert is truly injury free this season and can perform to this level, because last years performances will not be good enough. Then again, how much can we get out of Connolley?

 

Busy striker with an eye for goal, given a run in the team and up his confidence I think he could be a decent front man, certainly to the level of Billy Sharpe, I must admit I was never overawed with the Billy rumour apart from the fact that it was a decent sign of intent. We don't need sniffers (BS) or busy men (CMS) as we already have that angle covered. We need pace to add a different dimension, perhaps Adkins has worked on Forte ?? I don't know.

 

As for Connolly he is past it for me, his movement is top class though, he really has a real footballers brain, something that hopefully he can teach to Barnard.

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what is so special about maynard to make him a £4m+ NPC striker...?

 

What's so special? Nothing really, in my opinion. But there are clubs in the Premier League who'd happily pay that figure. He's the type of signing that Wigan, Stoke, Norwich, West Brom, Swansea or QPR would make.

 

The fee is probably £4 million or £5 million because Championship clubs would hesitate but Premier League clubs wouldn't.

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What's so special? There are clubs in the Premier League who'd happily pay that figure. He's the type of signing that Wigan, Stoke, Norwich, West Brom, Swansea or QPR would make.

 

The fee is probably £4 million or £5 million because Championship clubs would hesitate but Premier League clubs wouldn't.

 

then why arent they...?

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then why arent they...?

 

You'd have to ask them really - maybe they will bid for him in the next few weeks, or already have. You never know.

 

Stoke are set to sign Carlton Palmer so perhaps their sights have been set a little higher. I think Wigan would be interested though, definitely. If Swansea hadn't signed Graham I think Maynard would be on their list, QPR are spending little as they're about to be bought out.

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You'd have to ask them really - maybe they will bid for him in the next few weeks, or already have. You never know.

 

Stoke are set to sign Carlton Palmer so perhaps their sights have been set a little higher. I think Wigan would be interested though, definitely. If Swansea hadn't signed Graham I think Maynard would be on their list, QPR are spending little as they're about to be bought out.

so, he is a player the likes of stoke, QPR, wigan etc would sign...depsite not actually bidding for him....

 

 

righto

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You'd have to ask them really - maybe they will bid for him in the next few weeks, or already have. You never know.

 

Stoke are set to sign Carlton Palmer so perhaps their sights have been set a little higher. I think Wigan would be interested though, definitely. If Swansea hadn't signed Graham I think Maynard would be on their list, QPR are spending little as they're about to be bought out.

 

Blimey, must desperate. He must be mid 40s now.

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Why has he got two noses???

 

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lol! I love comments like this...more of it I say!!!

 

Real shame if we lose Sharp IMHO. A super striker at this level about to make the move to the Premier League if given the break. Saints certainly would give him that chance. I think he's made a mistake.

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