saint_ed Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 Unfortunately Ronald was less than convincing in denying Victor's unhappiness/wanting to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 Unfortunately Ronald was less than convincing in denying Victor's unhappiness/wanting to move on. He'll be gone next summer. You've got 12 months to get used to that idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 He'll be gone next summer. You've got 12 months to get used to that idea. He may be gone next week at this rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 He may be gone next week at this rate Nope. He'll be here for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy9143 Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 This idiot Simon Jones seems quite upset that his North London friends won't be getting Victor. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3208231/Southampton-s-determination-want-away-midfielder-Victor-Wanyama-Tottenham-cost-213-000-week.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 The almost hysterical article completely overlooks the fact that by keeping Victor we aren't paying for someone else to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 24 August, 2015 Share Posted 24 August, 2015 This idiot Simon Jones seems quite upset that his North London friends won't be getting Victor. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3208231/Southampton-s-determination-want-away-midfielder-Victor-Wanyama-Tottenham-cost-213-000-week.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 The almost hysterical article completely overlooks the fact that by keeping Victor we aren't paying for someone else to replace him. great maths. as if we wouldn't have to pay similar wages to a replacement and wouldn't have to spend 12m plus to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 24 August, 2015 Share Posted 24 August, 2015 This idiot Simon Jones seems quite upset that his North London friends won't be getting Victor. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3208231/Southampton-s-determination-want-away-midfielder-Victor-Wanyama-Tottenham-cost-213-000-week.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 The almost hysterical article completely overlooks the fact that by keeping Victor we aren't paying for someone else to replace him. Fair play that is an atrocious article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 24 August, 2015 Share Posted 24 August, 2015 Somebody needs to tell wanyama to stop kin shooting, it's absolutely atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 24 August, 2015 Share Posted 24 August, 2015 I'm incredulous that there us nothing to stop them peddling this rubbish, no matter how fictitious. How dare a puny club like Southampton not jump and do whatever the big clubs (plus disillusioned Spurs, Liverpool who think they're big) demand? Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 24 August, 2015 Share Posted 24 August, 2015 Wanyama has lost it recently - he is a liability to be honest. heart was never in it - I will be glad to get rid. At least Cork always gave 100%. He did give 100%, and seems likable fella. Unfortunately his 100% made him a fraction the player of Wanyama or schneiderlin , so he was always only going to be their enthusiastic back up...with both our last two managers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneawol Posted 24 August, 2015 Share Posted 24 August, 2015 This idiot Simon Jones seems quite upset that his North London friends won't be getting Victor. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3208231/Southampton-s-determination-want-away-midfielder-Victor-Wanyama-Tottenham-cost-213-000-week.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 The almost hysterical article completely overlooks the fact that by keeping Victor we aren't paying for someone else to replace him. Poor article, poor accounting. If he sees out his contract it will cost Saints £100k a week regardless of whether we turn down a bid of £18m or £80m. Assuming £40k/week & £12.5m fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 24 August, 2015 Share Posted 24 August, 2015 This idiot Simon Jones seems quite upset that his North London friends won't be getting Victor. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3208231/Southampton-s-determination-want-away-midfielder-Victor-Wanyama-Tottenham-cost-213-000-week.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 The almost hysterical article completely overlooks the fact that by keeping Victor we aren't paying for someone else to replace him. second thoughts, it's only the wages he's really overlooked. if we replaced wayama we'd be theoretically 6m in profit (excluding agent fees and golden handshakes) and have a player with two or more years extra on his contract and would ideally leave us in the same position in two years time with 6m in pocket it's another gamble but letting wanyama wind down his contract is guaranteed to lose value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambsaint Posted 24 August, 2015 Share Posted 24 August, 2015 Too late for any sensible Prem team to let key players go unless for silly money. Best tactic imo is if one of the Mega Clubs is interested look for a replacement ( we just can't compete with wages and CL football) and let them go for a sensible fee next window or season with mutual agreement; but if a club with ides above their station (Spuds, Liverpool) come asking , find a replacement first and screw them for a ludicrous fee and preferably make the player put in a request so the buying club has to pay bonuses due and percentage of fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 24 August, 2015 Share Posted 24 August, 2015 Keep hold of him for another year, and it's probably 50-50 whether Pochettino will still be at Spurs. That seems to be the biggest motivation for Wanyama to go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 24 August, 2015 Share Posted 24 August, 2015 Not read most of the thread and don't know if this has been mentioned previously. Just been told by a friend who is daughter of a Celtic Board Member that Celtic are entitled to 2.5 million if Wanyama is sold on. She reckons the VVD deal is done and will be announced Wednesday at the latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 24 August, 2015 Share Posted 24 August, 2015 We have previous with Celtic in this type of protracted transfer so wouldn't be at all surprised if Virgil signs on Wednesday - especially as we are still looking for a CB and there has been little mention of anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 24 August, 2015 Share Posted 24 August, 2015 This idiot Simon Jones seems quite upset that his North London friends won't be getting Victor. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3208231/Southampton-s-determination-want-away-midfielder-Victor-Wanyama-Tottenham-cost-213-000-week.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 The almost hysterical article completely overlooks the fact that by keeping Victor we aren't paying for someone else to replace him. No wonder spurs are a selling club with this mentality. "Yes Mr Levy now RM have bid for him to Keep Mr Bale will cost us 89 million pounds over the next four years." "What I physically have to pay 89 million to keep him and his wages?" "Well no you just pay his wages and the 89 million does not really exist but still it's a lot of money" "Your right I can't afford to not pay 89 million over the next four years we better sell him and buy soldado." "You know it makes sense as no one will offer us anything for soldado so he won't be costing us any imaginary pounds over the period of his contract" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 24 August, 2015 Share Posted 24 August, 2015 Not read most of the thread and don't know if this has been mentioned previously. Just been told by a friend who is daughter of a Celtic Board Member that Celtic are entitled to 2.5 million if Wanyama is sold on. She reckons the VVD deal is done and will be announced Wednesday at the latest. This is true from what I have been lead to believe. As for the announcement Wednesday that is news to me. All I have been told is that there are two agreed fee's made with Celtic that completely depends on their CL qualification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rees Posted 24 August, 2015 Share Posted 24 August, 2015 This is true from what I have been lead to believe. As for the announcement Wednesday that is news to me. All I have been told is that there are two agreed fee's made with Celtic that completely depends on their CL qualification. Good stuff. When do you expect it to be announced? By the end of this week? Not that it really matters I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 24 August, 2015 Share Posted 24 August, 2015 This is true from what I have been lead to believe. As for the announcement Wednesday that is news to me. All I have been told is that there are two agreed fee's made with Celtic that completely depends on their CL qualification. Different amounts or structured differently? A lower fee if they don't qualify? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 24 August, 2015 Share Posted 24 August, 2015 Obviously will cost more if get through to group stages. When is their second leg? If it's tomorrow then weds could be likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 24 August, 2015 Share Posted 24 August, 2015 Perhaps Victor wants to leave after hearing the Northam's embarrassing attempt to sing his new song on Thursday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 24 August, 2015 Share Posted 24 August, 2015 (edited) If he has more than two braincells he'll see what happened to Morgan, realise he deserves and should strive to get a better club than Spurs, by performing well for us this season. In fact I think he does and this is all media bull****. After tasting it with Celtic he will want Champions League football, do you think he realises Spurs have only got there once since it began? He should. Edited 24 August, 2015 by Saint IQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 25 August, 2015 Share Posted 25 August, 2015 I see the Mané thread has been merged with this one. I read this in the Mail ‘Don’t worry, we have bigger targets,’ was the thrust of Woodward’s message to associates. ‘The Pedro thing will eventually be forgotten.’ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3209356/Pressure-United-boss-Ed-Woodward-just-seven-days-grab-GAAL-actico.html Now I know that the Mail is not always accurate (!!!) but the arrogance involved in this is quite staggering. I am not sure that anyone sees Mané as a bigger target than Pedro, but to play around like they have and unsettle both the player and to a certain extent the club, is poor show. They used him to deflect their dropping the ball, got a negative reaction from their "supporters" and then come out with this shìt. If they were after bigger targets than Pedro all along (LOL at £240m for Neymar) then why even mention Mané? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 25 August, 2015 Share Posted 25 August, 2015 If he has more than two braincells he'll see what happened to Morgan, realise he deserves and should strive to get a better club than Spurs, by performing well for us this season. In fact I think he does and this is all media bull****. After tasting it with Celtic he will want Champions League football, do you think he realises Spurs have only got there once since it began? He should. Major difference is that Morgan was always too good for Spurs and I'm not sure Wanyama would interest any club better than them to be honest, he's just too clumsy with the ball to interest them. The rumours linking him with Arsenal just seem ridiculous to me. If Morgan wasn't a good enough passer for Wenger then there's no chance Wanyama is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 25 August, 2015 Share Posted 25 August, 2015 In that case judging on the arsenal games I've seen recently half the arsenal team aren't good enough for arsenal. Last night in the second half when they were camped around liverpool's box, everything was one touch. A lot of it was just lay offs and short angled passes but most of it was one touch football. Wanyama can't do that, he's technically very very average. He doesn't fit in with the way they play at all and there is nothing about him that suggests Wenger would like him. He's closer to being the complete opposite to what Wenger likes in his midfielders. Even watching Morgan for United so far, he sticks out as being too slow when moving the ball. Great defensive work but when they need to break teams down he just doesn't do things quickly enough, always needing two or three touches. And we all know Morgan is miles ahead of Victor as a player. Both of them had their best games for us in defensive performances, particularly away from home against the big clubs. Dominating possession and having to break teams down is a different game altogether and I'd be amazed if any of them wanted him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted 25 August, 2015 Share Posted 25 August, 2015 In the Watford 'Spoons on Sunday, there were some of our lot singing "He's a Kenyan, a greedy Kenyan, Victor Wanyama". All based on a 'story' that was potentially leaked by another club. Cracking support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 25 August, 2015 Share Posted 25 August, 2015 He needs to improve his passing before anyone really comes calling methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 25 August, 2015 Share Posted 25 August, 2015 In the Watford 'Spoons on Sunday, there were some of our lot singing "He's a Kenyan, a greedy Kenyan, Victor Wanyama". All based on a 'story' that was potentially leaked by another club. Cracking support. That's what you get drinking in 'spoons. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 August, 2015 Share Posted 25 August, 2015 If he really wants to leave then the next step, as with Stones and Berahino is a transfer request. Be interesting to see if he goes down that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluto Posted 25 August, 2015 Share Posted 25 August, 2015 Usual journos that Spurs pr use and im sure the next thing will be a wanyama written transfer request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 26 August, 2015 Share Posted 26 August, 2015 (edited) Sky claiming he hasn't travelled to Denmark. But didn't add the detail that he has a "stomach infection" until it was on the ticker. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Edited 26 August, 2015 by Shroppie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 26 August, 2015 Share Posted 26 August, 2015 No Victor. He was in a private hospital earlier today for treatment from a stomach specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 26 August, 2015 Share Posted 26 August, 2015 Press Conference : "Victor Wanyama not travelled with the team. The doctor says he has a stomach upset." I'm the most gullible fan on here, but even I don't believe that. Let's hope he can give us another season like Morgan did, then we can sell to the highest bidder. Don't want to lose Wanyama as well as Morgan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 26 August, 2015 Share Posted 26 August, 2015 No Victor. He was in a private hospital earlier today for treatment from a stomach specialist. So it was typical Sky spin suggesting it was because of his imminent move to Spuds. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 26 August, 2015 Share Posted 26 August, 2015 Hmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 26 August, 2015 Share Posted 26 August, 2015 Someone tweeted four/five hours ago that Victor had been seen in hospital waiting for the stomach specialist. Before any rumours, or comment from Koeman etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 26 August, 2015 Share Posted 26 August, 2015 Morgan was left out in similar circumstances last year until he'd got his head round the fact that he wouldn't be leaving. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 26 August, 2015 Share Posted 26 August, 2015 Victor Wanyama is unwell. New theatre sensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 26 August, 2015 Share Posted 26 August, 2015 Someone tweeted four/five hours ago that Victor had been seen in hospital waiting for the stomach specialist. Before any rumours, or comment from Koeman etc. Quite an elaborate smokescreen then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 26 August, 2015 Share Posted 26 August, 2015 Morgan was left out in similar circumstances last year until he'd got his head round the fact that he wouldn't be leaving. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk And koeman said that was the case at the time. It's not this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 August, 2015 Share Posted 26 August, 2015 Certainly not good timing, not least because our midfield without him, Morgan and Clasie is a shadow of what it was last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 26 August, 2015 Share Posted 26 August, 2015 So either the statement that he won't be allowed to leave is reneged on and the illness is fake or we meant it and he's ill. We'll find out in due course. But not before meltdown on here. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 26 August, 2015 Share Posted 26 August, 2015 So either the statement that he won't be allowed to leave is reneged on and the illness is fake or we meant it and he's ill. We'll find out in due course. But not before meltdown on here. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk He's poorly. You are causing the meltdown by saying there's doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 26 August, 2015 Share Posted 26 August, 2015 He's poorly. You are causing the meltdown by saying there's doubt. Sibley said Chambers was ill when he was signing for Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 26 August, 2015 Share Posted 26 August, 2015 He's poorly. You are causing the meltdown by saying there's doubt. Not so. I'm in the "believe Ronald until proved wrong" camp. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 26 August, 2015 Share Posted 26 August, 2015 Sibley said Chambers was ill when he was signing for Arsenal. And rk says he's poorly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 August, 2015 Share Posted 26 August, 2015 wanyama out, Jedinak in heard it here first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 26 August, 2015 Share Posted 26 August, 2015 wanyama out, Jedinak in heard it here first And last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 26 August, 2015 Share Posted 26 August, 2015 Convenient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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