Chez Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 22 minutes ago, warwicksaint said: I agree with West Ham but let’s not put Everton in a better bracket than us as things stand. Agreed they’re historically a “bigger club” but they’re currently in the shit financially and just about scraped survival last year - they haven’t been a top team for years now WBA took Lukaka on loan, then Everton followed up the year after and bought him. Impressing there got him his mega move to United. That path seems quite a good one. Everton might have been shit last season but they still have a lot more pulling power than we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwicksaint Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chez said: WBA took Lukaka on loan, then Everton followed up the year after and bought him. Impressing there got him his mega move to United. That path seems quite a good one. Everton might have been shit last season but they still have a lot more pulling power than we do. They bought him 8 years ago so hardly a great track record in recent years for young lads making a career from Everton. Saints have had way more players move to big clubs so surely we’re the better prospect if you want game time and a stepping stone to the big boys? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 8 minutes ago, SotonianWill said: I personally don't want broja back, I would much rather we went and got ings tbh (if we get a cut price deal), we know what we're getting a great technical player who can finish and fits the system with the potential of 15-20 goals a season. He could be the experience among the young players we buy. also the king of the scummers chant really needs an airing as opposed to that god awful broja one. Broja aint coming here. Not sure Ings will be either. Out of interest, how much would you pay for Ings, knowing he's probably on £120k a week or whatever now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 4 minutes ago, Chez said: Broja aint coming here. Not sure Ings will be either. Out of interest, how much would you pay for Ings, knowing he's probably on £120k a week or whatever now. anything 15 million or under i'd take him, I can see him coming here as where else would he go if villa dont't want him. brighton? also I wouldn't pay his villa wages for sure but would give him high enough to want to join maybe second under jwp contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 8 minutes ago, warwicksaint said: They bought him 8 years ago so hardly a great track record in recent years for young lads making a career from Everton. Saints have had way more players move to big clubs so surely we’re the better prospect if you want game time and a stepping stone to the big boys? Everton have provided a decent pathway to the big clubs (maybe even more than us in the last five or six years). Lukaku to United Gueye to PSG Barkely to Chelsea Stones to City Delefue to Barca Back a little further, then we obviously win that one hands down with Nivea boy, Shaw, Clyne, Morgan, Mane etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 7 minutes ago, SotonianWill said: anything 15 million or under i'd take him, I can see him coming here as where else would he go if villa dont't want him. brighton? also I wouldn't pay his villa wages for sure but would give him high enough to want to join maybe second under jwp contract. Not sure players often take a drop in wages to move clubs while under contract. Why would you? Unless Villa pay the difference, he wont move. Three year deal, £15m fee, plus £15m wages and £0 resale value. Not sure that fits the SFC model. It was fine offering him £100k a week when he was on a free. Not sure we will fancy doing it now. We need a striker though, so its not a daft idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 1 hour ago, Chez said: Everton have provided a decent pathway to the big clubs (maybe even more than us in the last five or six years). Lukaku to United Gueye to PSG Barkely to Chelsea Stones to City Delefue to Barca Back a little further, then we obviously win that one hands down with Nivea boy, Shaw, Clyne, Morgan, Mane etc. Deulofeu started out at Barca before going back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 1 minute ago, SuperSAINT said: https://breakingthelines.com/player-analysis/player-analysis-joe-aribo/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 (edited) Aribo deal looks close. Amazing work. Just need a striker and it’s a full house. Don’t fuck it up by playing the wrong keeper against spurs, Ralph. Edited 5 July, 2022 by DT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 1 minute ago, DT said: Aruba deal looks close. Amazing work. Just need a striker and it’s a full house. Don’t fuck it up by playing the wrong keeper against spurs, Ralph. Is it being greedy to want another wide forward as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 Just now, Convict Colony said: Is it being greedy to want another wide forward as well Not at all...but I think that will rely on a sale. If we shift on one of Theo, Redmond or Moussa (or maybe Ely if he doesn't renew) then we'll no doubts bring in another with whatever fee they make available. Same at CB, if we sell Bednarek or Stephens then I'd expect to see our interest in Colwill ramp up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 4 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Not at all...but I think that will rely on a sale. If we shift on one of Theo, Redmond or Moussa (or maybe Ely if he doesn't renew) then we'll no doubts bring in another with whatever fee they make available. Same at CB, if we sell Bednarek or Stephens then I'd expect to see our interest in Colwill ramp up. Do you think we need to rely on a sell to bring in another forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 1 minute ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Do you think we need to rely on a sell to bring in another forward? I think we'll see one come in without a sale (given that we have to replace Broja in the main), but the additional forward will rely on a move in my opinion. What I reckon we'll do is sell Moussa and bring in someone who can cover wide and up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris cooper Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 Going off topic but I’m hearing an arsenal Ghanaian midfielder might not be available for pre season 😯 Make of that wot you will !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Chris cooper said: Going off topic but I’m hearing an arsenal Ghanaian midfielder might not be available for pre season 😯 Make of that wot you will !! Some people in the media are claiming he flew to Germany with the rest of the team for a training camp. Edited 6 July, 2022 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chris cooper said: Going off topic but I’m hearing an arsenal Ghanaian midfielder might not be available for pre season 😯 Make of that wot you will !! That’s been all over Twitter since yesterday if you’re talking about what I think you’re talking about ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samhammond Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: He flew to Germany with the rest of the team for a training camp, so appears unlikely to be the person you think it is. He actually.. didn’t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 Wheatley is an absolute clown, tried to jump the gun to gain credibility but hopefully ruined his career instead. "Apologies for any confusion caused" by my complete lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 1 hour ago, verlaine1979 said: Deulofeu started out at Barca before going back there. the path still went through Everton. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Badger Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 1 hour ago, DT said: Aruba deal looks close. Amazing work. Just need a striker and it’s a full house. Don’t fuck it up by playing the wrong keeper against spurs, Ralph. Hoping it’s Kaladjzik (sp) or is that too ambitious ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 Aribo and Lavia both potentially signing in the coming days. I know nothing of Aribo and only that Lavia was a hot prospect. The club spending the best part of £25m on two CMs implies to me maybe a change in formation? (I’m sure MLG will question this). But I personally can’t see us shelling out that amount on players of the same/similar positions. JWP, Romeu, Diallo, Lavia, Aribo and Smallbone all in that central midfield role. That is good depth! 😊 It “could” well be the reason we’ve had little to know striker links so far. Adams, Armstrong plus maybe one more, and I still think that one will be Liam Delap (Man City, loan). I have a feeling g the club will be looking more at the wider attacking players/wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 5 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: I know nothing of Aribo and only that Lavia was a hot prospect. The club spending the best part of £25m on two CMs implies to me maybe a change in formation? (I’m sure MLG will question this). I'll do that for him. 4 2 <-Lavia 2 <- Aribo 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Aribo and Lavia both potentially signing in the coming days. I know nothing of Aribo and only that Lavia was a hot prospect. The club spending the best part of £25m on two CMs implies to me maybe a change in formation? (I’m sure MLG will question this). But I personally can’t see us shelling out that amount on players of the same/similar positions. JWP, Romeu, Diallo, Lavia, Aribo and Smallbone all in that central midfield role. That is good depth! 😊 It “could” well be the reason we’ve had little to know striker links so far. Adams, Armstrong plus maybe one more, and I still think that one will be Liam Delap (Man City, loan). I have a feeling g the club will be looking more at the wider attacking players/wingers. I think Aribo is more of the attacking player you speak of rather than a JWP/Lavia/Romeu/Diallo role. Edited 5 July, 2022 by beatlesaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_tiss Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 Ralph said it would happen in May and it certainly is happening - we're becoming so much more athletic and powerful as a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 Although I think the club are taking a chance buying youngsters, fucking fair play to them. Getting a good few deals over the line. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 7 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Aribo and Lavia both potentially signing in the coming days. I know nothing of Aribo and only that Lavia was a hot prospect. The club spending the best part of £25m on two CMs implies to me maybe a change in formation? (I’m sure MLG will question this). But I personally can’t see us shelling out that amount on players of the same/similar positions. JWP, Romeu, Diallo, Lavia, Aribo and Smallbone all in that central midfield role. That is good depth! 😊 It “could” well be the reason we’ve had little to know striker links so far. Adams, Armstrong plus maybe one more, and I still think that one will be Liam Delap (Man City, loan). I have a feeling g the club will be looking more at the wider attacking players/wingers. I think Aribo will be viewed as one of the two number 10s in the 4222. - Romeu with Lavia as back up for the number 6 role - Ward-Prowse with Diallo as backup for the number 8 role - Aribo, S.Armstrong, Elyounoussi, Redmond, Tella for two number 10 roles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 A clear failing in our squad was physical strength and presence. Not now. Well done to the recruitment team. Still need a bit of pace but looking good on the solidity front. Good spine. Would like to see us secure Romeu too as his ball retention is excellent and we will need strength in depth especially with the subs rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris cooper Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: Although I think the club are taking a chance buying youngsters, fucking fair play to them. Getting a good few deals over the line. Need a proven striker to score us 12-15 goals or more and we could finish In the top 10.. Broja ? Dennis ? Or even pukki can score in the prem . Edited 5 July, 2022 by Chris cooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 (edited) Appreciate the correction on Aribo, I thought he was a standard CM that liked to get forward. 👍🏻 Got to say I’m loving this approach to the window so far. Getting all our business done behind closed doors, no leaks pretty much until the official signing of a player. This is a bold approach for us to go for youth but IF it works what a master stroke it is. It certainly hypes you up for it that little bit more. Just hope the team gets quickly. (But knowing Ralph, he’ll probably play McCarthy in goal against Spurs). 😅 Edited 5 July, 2022 by FarehamSaintJames 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 11 minutes ago, DT said: A clear failing in our squad was physical strength and presence. Not now. Well done to the recruitment team. Still need a bit of pace but looking good on the solidity front. Good spine. Would like to see us secure Romeu too as his ball retention is excellent and we will need strength in depth especially with the subs rule Although it's a guess, I think Romeu intends to see out his contract and then leave for a new challenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 1 minute ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: Although it's a guess, I think Romeu intends to see out his contract and then leave for a new challenge Is like to think he stays and gets his coaching badges etc but if he wants a new challenge then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 I’m happy with what we have done so far as long as we get a decent striker and wide player who walk straight into the first team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 6 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: Is like to think he stays and gets his coaching badges etc but if he wants a new challenge then so be it. I think someone on here said he's learning Japanese. Not the actions of someone who intends to stay put in Soton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 2 hours ago, S-Clarke said: Not at all...but I think that will rely on a sale. If we shift on one of Theo, Redmond or Moussa (or maybe Ely if he doesn't renew) then we'll no doubts bring in another with whatever fee they make available. Same at CB, if we sell Bednarek or Stephens then I'd expect to see our interest in Colwill ramp up. shift them all................................................ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 1 hour ago, Badger said: Hoping it’s Kaladjzik (sp) or is that too ambitious ? Nah, he’d be my choice as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 1 hour ago, Badger said: Hoping it’s Kaladjzik (sp) or is that too ambitious ? Either him or Sesko i'd be happy with, someone in that mould. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 1 hour ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: I think someone on here said he's learning Japanese. Not the actions of someone who intends to stay put in Soton Sure they didn't say he's turning Japanese? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Neil Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 I really think so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 https://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/transfer-news/nottingham-forest-transfer-omar-richards-7295310 Forest looking at Omar Richards. We should be all over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 10 minutes ago, Teddeer said: Sure they didn't say he's turning Japanese? I heard he was big in Japan ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 5 July, 2022 Share Posted 5 July, 2022 Do any of our new signings have confirmed shirt numbers yet? May give us a clue as to where they will be in the pecking order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 6 July, 2022 Share Posted 6 July, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: He flew to Germany with the rest of the team for a training camp, so appears unlikely to be the person you think it is. Doesn't look like he did, and he looks to be in for a lot of bother. But obviously speculation currently and he's innocent until proven guilty regardless (if indeed it is him). Edited 6 July, 2022 by Saint86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 6 July, 2022 Share Posted 6 July, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, beatlesaint said: I think Aribo is more of the attacking player you speak of rather than a JWP/Lavia/Romeu/Diallo role. I hope we're looking at others - even if that does come across as greedy. Not at all sold on Aribo atm, based on his record in Scottish football. 5 assists and 8 goals from 34 games last season - most of which were played vs league 1 opposition for a team that were European finalists. What is noticeable in his highlight reals is a lack of decent end product and a mixture of some great touches and some really sloppy touches in key areas. Not sure he is any better than Redmond and will probably be quite frustrating to watch - he may offer something better than we have, but surely would prefer we went for better still i think.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/scottish-premiership/top-scorers/assists He was 11th for assists and 16th for goals in what is a very weak league whilst playing for one of the two runaway best sides. Edited 6 July, 2022 by Saint86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 6 July, 2022 Share Posted 6 July, 2022 Based on what others have done in the SPL, Aribo doesn't sound like the answer to our midfield creativity problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey88 Posted 6 July, 2022 Share Posted 6 July, 2022 6m plus 4m in add ons apparently. Can’t really grumble if those are the prices. Bit of a free hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 6 July, 2022 Share Posted 6 July, 2022 £6m rising to £10m I assume, very little outlay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 6 July, 2022 Share Posted 6 July, 2022 1 minute ago, Saint Matty 76 said: £6m rising to £10m I assume, very little outlay. No brainer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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