Saint_clark Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 13 hours ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: Blackmore is sometimes a little guilty of trying to placate and be mates with those at the club. He is first and foremost a reporter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 2 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Blackmore is sometimes a little guilty of trying to placate and be mates with those at the club. He is first and foremost a reporter. Agreed. Strikes me as someone who thinks he needs to keep the club onside to keep having access to the players etc. Many a time he has intimated at asking Ralph a certain question, only then to not ask it during an interview. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 34 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Agreed. Strikes me as someone who thinks he needs to keep the club onside to keep having access to the players etc. Many a time he has intimated at asking Ralph a certain question, only then to not ask it during an interview. Exactly this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 2 hours ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Agreed. Strikes me as someone who thinks he needs to keep the club onside to keep having access to the players etc. Many a time he has intimated at asking Ralph a certain question, only then to not ask it during an interview. Probably true unfortunately. He'll have seen how the Echo suffered when Cortese banned them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 10 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Guess that means they won't be back in for JWP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 Now can we go and sign Nick Pope and James Tarkowski PLEASE. would fix a lot of our issues 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 Just now, Turkish said: Now can we go and sign Nick Pope and James Tarkowski PLEASE. would fix a lot of our issues 100% agree. I worry that Tarkowski in particular will have far better suitors, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 9 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: 100% agree. I worry that Tarkowski in particular will have far better suitors, sadly. I expect they both will but we should be all over it. Oh to have a goalkeeper that can make saves and a defender that can defend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 Just now, Turkish said: I expect they both will but we should be all over it. Oh to have a goalkeeper that can make saves and a defender that can defend but are they left footed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 Liverpool City Utd Arsenal Chelsea Spurs will all automatically be above us and spend more. Wet Spam Newcastle Leicester Villa Everton (probably) will all definitely spend more. Brighton Palace Leicester will most likely spend more. Thats 14 teams who will be better than they are now. Fulham, Bournemouth and whoever else comes up will likely spend quite a bit. That leaves Leeds and Brentford. The former HAVE to spend. The latter are already better and will likely be better next season. All this highlights just how bad we are and how much we need to spend or more to the point that we need at least 4 or 5 players who are already better than we have. This is likely to cost upwards of 70/80m if one or two are Tino types. We also need a manager. Needs to be a very busy summer otherwise we are very likely to go down. Right now, if someone offers 60/70m for JWP I'd take it😂😂 Depressing last 10 games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 21 minutes ago, Turkish said: Now can we go and sign Nick Pope and James Tarkowski PLEASE. would fix a lot of our issues Tarkowski is off to West Ham I think, all but done bar the announcement from what I've read. Burnley want £40m for Pope. If we spend that much on a single player then I'll eat my hat, that's all we usually spend in the entire window. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Burnley want £40m for Pope. If we spend that much on a single player then I'll eat my hat, that's all we usually spend in the entire window. What they say they want initially and what they'd be willing to accept given the financial mess they appear to be in are very different things! Edited 22 May, 2022 by Matthew Le God 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: What they say they want initially and what they'd be willing to accept given the financial mess they appear to be in are very different things! Are you going to bother responding to the other points made, regarding you running away when your mistakes are pointed out? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 From the horses mouth... “Before the season, a lot of people had us on the list for being a relegated team, but if you want to make the next step you have to change a lot of things next summer and that is what we will do. “We must come to the point that we concede less goals, definitely. We will have some new players in the defence what we are looking at and then we will hopefully be more compact next season.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 1 minute ago, S-Clarke said: Are you going to bother responding to the other points made, regarding you running away when your mistakes are pointed out? I've never claimed to be infallible. I'm not a god... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: I've never claimed to be infallible. I'm not a god... You appear to be imply the existence of something you once described as a false deity 🤔 Edited 22 May, 2022 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 1 minute ago, Turkish said: You apply to be imply the existence of something you once described as a false deity 🤔 Seems a strange user name to give oneself. Matthew le false deity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 33 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: From the horses mouth... “Before the season, a lot of people had us on the list for being a relegated team, but if you want to make the next step you have to change a lot of things next summer and that is what we will do. “We must come to the point that we concede less goals, definitely. We will have some new players in the defence what we are looking at and then we will hopefully be more compact next season.” Where's that from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 Just now, Suhari said: Where's that from? Ralph's post match comments on the OS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 41 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: From the horses mouth... “Before the season, a lot of people had us on the list for being a relegated team, but if you want to make the next step you have to change a lot of things next summer and that is what we will do. “We must come to the point that we concede less goals, definitely. We will have some new players in the defence what we are looking at and then we will hopefully be more compact next season.” Promising I suppose that he recognises a major part of our problem. It’s not just the defence though. We definitely lack decent defenders, we also lack a depth of defensive midfielders (Romeu is great when on it, awful when off it), and in McCarthy a keeper not good enough for a starting spot. A decent defensive midfield setup also allows us options of playing a strong 3 in the centre and mixing options up, as we weren’t able to do in the calamitous away performance to Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Promising I suppose that he recognises a major part of our problem. It’s not just the defence though. We definitely lack decent defenders, we also lack a depth of defensive midfielders (Romeu is great when on it, awful when off it), and in McCarthy a keeper not good enough for a starting spot. A decent defensive midfield setup also allows us options of playing a strong 3 in the centre and mixing options up, as we weren’t able to do in the calamitous away performance to Liverpool. I agree, Romeu's legs are going now and we need some freshening up in there. Keep Romeu around for rotation, but we need better in there (that's how you improve a squad, saints - you evolve positions) I think we'll see a lot of changes in attack too, we have to. Long will go, Broja has gone, Redmond, Moussa, Theo up for sale. That potentially leaves us with Adams, Armstrong, Armstrong S, Tella and Ely in the attack. Down before a ball is kicked. I guess N'Lundulu will be back though...🙃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 No 12 month contract for ‘Longy’? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: No 12 month contract for ‘Longy’? Don't jest. I'd expect our new owners to have a bit more sense! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 1 hour ago, S-Clarke said: “We must come to the point that we concede less goals, definitely. We will have some new players in the defence what we are looking at and then we will hopefully be more compact next season.” He said the same thing virtually word for word at the end of last season. Did the defence improve? I guess we went from 68 goals conceded to 67, if you can call that progress. Maybe the individual defenders are less of a problem than a manager who has two 9-0s on his record and hasn't got a fucking clue how to set up a defence. Just a thought. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 18 minutes ago, qwertyell said: He said the same thing virtually word for word at the end of last season. Did the defence improve? I guess we went from 68 goals conceded to 67, if you can call that progress. Maybe the individual defenders are less of a problem than a manager who has two 9-0s on his record and hasn't got a fucking clue how to set up a defence. Just a thought. We improved full back, that's pretty much it. We went with Stephens, Bednarek and hoped that Salisu would step up. He did, but he's young and will have moments where he needs some quality to see him through. He had Bednarek. Goalkeeper continues to be an issue as well. Need to rip the heart of the defense and GK out if we are really to improve defensively. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, qwertyell said: He said the same thing virtually word for word at the end of last season. Did the defence improve? I guess we went from 68 goals conceded to 67, if you can call that progress. Maybe the individual defenders are less of a problem than a manager who has two 9-0s on his record and hasn't got a fucking clue how to set up a defence. Just a thought. Small increments of improvement. A journey of 1000 miles starts with a single step. If we concede one less goal a season every season by 2089 we’ll be the first team to keep a clean sheet in every game Edited 22 May, 2022 by Turkish 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 10 minutes ago, Turkish said: Small increments of improvement. A journey of 1000 miles starts with a single step. If we concede one less goal a season every season by 2089 we’ll be the first team to keep a clean sheet in every game Dave Brailsford’s marginal gains are a worldwide phenomenon. Good business practise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 3 hours ago, MarkSFC said: Liverpool City Utd Arsenal Chelsea Spurs will all automatically be above us and spend more. Wet Spam Newcastle Leicester Villa Everton (probably) will all definitely spend more. Brighton Palace Leicester will most likely spend more. Thats 14 teams who will be better than they are now. Fulham, Bournemouth and whoever else comes up will likely spend quite a bit. That leaves Leeds and Brentford. The former HAVE to spend. The latter are already better and will likely be better next season. All this highlights just how bad we are and how much we need to spend or more to the point that we need at least 4 or 5 players who are already better than we have. This is likely to cost upwards of 70/80m if one or two are Tino types. We also need a manager. Needs to be a very busy summer otherwise we are very likely to go down. Right now, if someone offers 60/70m for JWP I'd take it😂😂 Depressing last 10 games. And there was I feeling quite depressed re our prospects for next season…… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 4 minutes ago, stknowle said: And there was I feeling quite depressed re our prospects for next season…… Oh, and “Wet Spam” lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 9 hours ago, davefizzy14 said: https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2022/boubacar-kamara-announces-he-is-leaving-marseille/ Hopefully its us Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 2 hours ago, S-Clarke said: I agree, Romeu's legs are going now and we need some freshening up in there. Keep Romeu around for rotation, but we need better in there (that's how you improve a squad, saints - you evolve positions) I'm not against having more options there, but it's just as likely that Romeu is knackered after a long season of Ralph-ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 May, 2022 Share Posted 22 May, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Kraken said: Dave Brailsford’s marginal gains are a worldwide phenomenon. Good business practise. Marginal gains. Another book on the subject is the compound effect. Put simply improving by tiny amounts every day leads to huge improvement over an extended period. Look at ward Prowse, he used to hit every free kick exactly one foot over the angle, over the years he reduced that by 3 inches a season to now be able to get most on target. If Stephens, Lyanco and Bednarek aren’t looking at that for inspiration then I don’t know what’s wrong with them Edited 22 May, 2022 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Fat Controller Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 We need an older experienced pro in the midfield personally if we could afford him then Juan Mata could fit the bill - ok he’s 34 but still could do a job for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 1 hour ago, The Fat Controller said: We need an older experienced pro in the midfield personally if we could afford him then Juan Mata could fit the bill - ok he’s 34 but still could do a job for us Nice idea but he wouldn't last 45 minutes in Ralphs headless chicken pressing game. On the striker front, what do people think of Dennis from Watford? - seemed pretty decent this season? Although I just googled it and looks like West Ham might be in for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 2 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: Nice idea but he wouldn't last 45 minutes in Ralphs headless chicken pressing game. On the striker front, what do people think of Dennis from Watford? - seemed pretty decent this season? Although I just googled it and looks like West Ham might be in for him If we were to get anyone from Watford I'd go for Ismala Sarr. He's had injury troubles which may make him cheaper, but if you can keep him fit he's a game changer. And all importantly still young enough to have significant re-sale value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 1 hour ago, The Fat Controller said: We need an older experienced pro in the midfield personally if we could afford him then Juan Mata could fit the bill - ok he’s 34 but still could do a job for us 543 Premier League appearances between JWP and Romeu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 Just now, S-Clarke said: If we were to get anyone from Watford I'd go for Ismala Sarr. He's had injury troubles which may make him cheaper, but if you can keep him fit he's a game changer. And all importantly still young enough to have significant re-sale value. Agreed good player. Dennis would be okay as well. 10 goals this season in a crap team. Cornet from Burnley would fit in as well i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: Agreed good player. Dennis would be okay as well. 10 goals this season in a crap team. Cornet from Burnley would fit in as well i think Cornet looks good - and Burnley are in deep doo doos financially Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Turkish said: Agreed good player. Dennis would be okay as well. 10 goals this season in a crap team. Cornet from Burnley would fit in as well i think I don't mind Cornet, has a bit of pace and power and can play all across the front. £17m we could get him for. He hasn't had a great second half though. There are 1 or 2 players in those relegated sides who could improve us (Apart from Norwich), which probably says a lot about our bunch. Edited 23 May, 2022 by S-Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd5XQOVg2Rl/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Reads like a goodbye from Broja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 14 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I don't mind Cornet, has a bit of pace and power and can play all across the front. £17m we could get him for. He hasn't had a great second half though. He sounds perfect 😄 4 minutes ago, goodymatt said: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd5XQOVg2Rl/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Reads like a goodbye from Broja. Never realistic, IMO. Too many teams can blow us away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ldnsaint Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 in talks with city to sign Bazunu... seems a massive risk but very highly rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ldnsaint said: in talks with city to sign Bazunu... seems a massive risk but very highly rated. THINK OF THE RESALE VALUE!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 Not so much Everything Must Go as Everything Can Go. We may accept decent bids for nearly anyone in our squad, especially if it helps fund a restructure.We’ve a number of players who are entering their last year. Along with them is Salisu who I think we’d have been looking to extend or “show the merits of the Southampton Pathway” by getting a fee for. We also have a number of back ups who either not been convincing enough to nail down a first team place or with the likes of Bednarek and A Armstrong who we & they might be looking to move on for the benefits of both parties. Then we have the fringe players, like any squad. Players who don't really look likely to get a lot of first team football with us. Those returning from loan would have a big step up to make, and may see themselves back out next year too, unless we get a fee. Players who we could get decent funds for: James Ward-Prowse (2026. who may jump to a team who can get him playing in Europe) Kyle Walker-Peters (2025)And on a level down, Stuart Armstrong (2024) Ché Adams (2024) Tino Livramento (2026 injured so will be staying.) Romain Perraud (2025) Contracts where we need to capitalise on or make the decision to extend. Mohammed Salisu (2024) Oriol Romeu (2023) Mohamed Elyounoussi (2023) Moussa Djénépo (2023) Nathan Redmond (2023) Theo Walcott (2023) Players who are seen more as back up/ time to move on Jack Stephens (?) Alex McCarthy* (2024) Jan Bednarek (2025, especially if ducking Saints duty due to upcoming international games.) Adam Armstrong (2025. May be looking for a fresh start, after being dropped for Long and apparently not taking it well) Lynaco Vojnovic (2025) Nathan Tella (2025) Players who’ve not found their best position: Ibrahima Diallo (2024, He’s possibly getting a first team place if JWP goes.) Fringe Players/ Returning from loan Kayne Ramsay (2023) Yan Valery (2023) Will Smallbone (2024) Dan Nlundulu (2024) Jake Vokins (2024) Thierry Small (2024) Dynel Simeu (2024) Will Ferry (2024) Kazeem Olaigbe (2024) Players Who have Gone/ 2022 Contract Expiry Fraser Forster Harry Lewis Armando Broja Willy Caballero Kgaogelo Chauke Shane Long 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 36 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: 543 Premier League appearances between JWP and Romeu. And no realistic back up if either get injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 14 hours ago, qwertyell said: He said the same thing virtually word for word at the end of last season. Did the defence improve? I guess we went from 68 goals conceded to 67, if you can call that progress. Maybe the individual defenders are less of a problem than a manager who has two 9-0s on his record and hasn't got a fucking clue how to set up a defence. Just a thought. Hahaahahhaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 So..... when will we make our first signing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted 23 May, 2022 Share Posted 23 May, 2022 13 minutes ago, Turkish said: THINK OF THE RESALE VALUE!!! Angus Gunn was highly rated at City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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