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11 minutes ago, oldandfat said:

I am a Posh fan - not looking for an argument.

play Edwards 5 games in a row then you will not understand how he wasn’t starting last season.

You must be a very good team in second tier for him not to be in your team - ask a QPR fan

Not the tallest, not the most aggressive, not the quickest, etc. but simply very good and would greatly improve your team.

He played in the first league match this season and was awful but has hardly got a look-in since.

Our issue is we have a crap manager who doesn't know what he's trying to do or how to do it.

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He was also awful for QPR in his first game.

Ask yourself is what you have got working? You have just lost to Hull.

Give him 5 games in a row. If at the end of that he isn’t the first name on your team sheet then (please God) send him back to us.

Posted
5 minutes ago, oldandfat said:

He was also awful for QPR in his first game.

Ask yourself is what you have got working? You have just lost to Hull.

Give him 5 games in a row. If at the end of that he isn’t the first name on your team sheet then (please God) send him back to us.

I think most fans would be happy enough for him to be given a chance.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Gloucester Saint said:

The Cornish Beckenbauer is though. Second SR pet after Gavin.

It shouldn't come as any surprise that we give away stacks of shit goals with Jack Stephens in the team, but somewhat it catches coaches by surprise every time.

Take him out of the side and you'll see an improvement. He's the worst Captain we've ever had, it's embarrassing that we've got someone of his level captaining us when we aspire to be a PL side. He may well be a good lad and give his all, but he is utter, utter turd and drags the entire defence down with him.

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Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I don't know why he doesn't get a chance here. it's not like maldini is keeping him out of the side.

He deserves a shot.

5 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

The Cornish Beckenbauer is though. Second SR pet after Gavin.

Edwards normally plays on the right so it is 'England centre back & debut scorer + Roy Keane's Son in Law' who has his natural spot. After the shambles today give Edwards a bash 

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1 minute ago, S-Clarke said:

It shouldn't come as any surprise that we give away stacks of shit goals with Jack Stephens in the team, but somewhat it catches coaches by surprise every time.

Take him out of the side and you'll see an improvement. He's the worst Captain we've ever had, it's embarrassing that we've got someone of his level captaining us when we aspire to be a PL side. He may well be a good lad and give his all, but he is utter, utter turd and drags the entire defence down with him.

To think we sang ‘Captain Crap’ at Glenn Cockerill. Played on for too long at the top level but very good player in his 1980s peak. Jack’s never been anywhere that level.

Bring back the ‘Captain Crap’ when his name is announced, rub Spors nose in it.

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I was looking forward to Edwards this season after his time at QPR. 
 

Agree he struggled a bit v Moore in the Wrexham game, but that’s what having an experienced striker at this level brings you.

My only concern witn Edwards is who he’s paired with and how he copes having to compensate for their deficiencies. Neither Jack or THB are real leaders at CB. 
 

Think there is still mileage with Edwards but he needs the opportunity. Anfield perhaps? 

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1 hour ago, Badger said:

I was looking forward to Edwards this season after his time at QPR. 
 

Agree he struggled a bit v Moore in the Wrexham game, but that’s what having an experienced striker at this level brings you.

My only concern witn Edwards is who he’s paired with and how he copes having to compensate for their deficiencies. Neither Jack or THB are real leaders at CB. 
 

Think there is still mileage with Edwards but he needs the opportunity. Anfield perhaps? 

Yeah, he'll have Isaac in his pocket 🙂

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Posted (edited)

I feel like if it really was a shocking decision he wouldn’t be going to QPR and more importantly he wouldn’t be unable to get in the team after some pretty bang average performances.

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Posted (edited)
45 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

Just read that he's having a medical at QPR tomorrow ahead of a £4.5m move. 

Not sure if this is true or not?

Can't help but feel that we're making a mistake if we're letting him go.

He hasn’t really had a chance, they could have given him a go at cdm or right back, given the shortages in those positions at various times. Of course it’s possible he just wants out of the shambles. 

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Given how awful our CBs have been this season, if he can't displace any of them then he's got no future here IMO. 

Decent on the ball but a shocking lack of pace. 

If this frees up some funds for additions elsewhere then I'm OK with it.

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Posted

Shame. Thought he had potential and would have done well with better management this season. We might see  his career develop elsewhere and regret this. 

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Was terrible first game of the season at centre half, and nothing I’ve seen since has changed my mind.
 

The worse of our horrendous group of centre halves and some people are calling it a “mistake” to get rid 😂 Weird….

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5 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Was terrible first game of the season at centre half, and nothing I’ve seen since has changed my mind.
 

The worse of our horrendous group of centre halves and some people are calling it a “mistake” to get rid 😂 Weird….

Agree. I haven't seen anything special and neither have our Excel schoolboy managers. 

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47 minutes ago, Badger said:

Shame. Thought he had potential and would have done well with better management this season. We might see  his career develop elsewhere and regret this. 

I don’t think this is the environment for a potential CB to learn. Always hoped we get a steady CB, nothing fancy, does the basics well on which to build from.

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

Slow and not great aerially aren’t a good combination in a cb.

I’d rather retain Quarshie at this stage. Raw but has some of the attributes for a top flight CB.

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I’d happily see him move on for a decent fee. He’d need to make a step up to fit into our mid-table Championship team, if we have ambitions of a PL return in the next couple of years, he’s a world away from that.

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If this opens up a spot to employ a proper CB, then absolutely fine with this. Has to be one of the top remaining priorities. But fully expecting him to be replaced with a shit Bundesliga 2 “one for the future”

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I was a bit confused early on whether it was Wood or Edward’s who was the better CB. Wood is not all that, but he’s a step above from Edward’s. Having said that, I fully expect Edward’s to turn into a very decent defender at QPR.

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On 21/09/2025 at 04:26, S-Clarke said:

It shouldn't come as any surprise that we give away stacks of shit goals with Jack Stephens in the team, but somewhat it catches coaches by surprise every time.

Take him out of the side and you'll see an improvement. He's the worst Captain we've ever had, it's embarrassing that we've got someone of his level captaining us when we aspire to be a PL side. He may well be a good lad and give his all, but he is utter, utter turd and drags the entire defence down with him.

I don’t claim he’s one of the best players to grace Saints. But let’s examine the last three matches:

Birmingham, Stephens starts, we concede one goal

Millwall, Stephens starts, we keep a clean sheet

Boro, Stephens is rested/dropped, we concede four

How is this consistent with your assertion “take him out of the side and you’ll see an improvement”?

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I'm torn on this. I haven't seen him put in a good performance in a Saints shirt yet. But then he hasn't put in many performances in a Saints shirt. But then, when he has played he's look more of a liability than the rest of our back line. But then he's been played at right back or in a 3. 

I don't think we've given him a decent crack in a Saints shirt but, given our central defenders, the bar for standing out is not high.

Given he's not getting in the team, better to have him off the books. Another example of Sports Republic's scattergun recruitment after our promotion.

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Hard to get past Kieffer Moore bossing him on the opening day of the season. Edwards showed he wasn't great in the air and wasn't very quick either. For me, winning headers is essential for a cb, so I struggle to understand how he earned such a good reputation at Peterborough.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Forester said:

I don’t claim he’s one of the best players to grace Saints. But let’s examine the last three matches:

Birmingham, Stephens starts, we concede one goal

Millwall, Stephens starts, we keep a clean sheet

Boro, Stephens is rested/dropped, we concede four

How is this consistent with your assertion “take him out of the side and you’ll see an improvement”?

Not saying Stephens is perfect, nor is he absolutely quality and a top defender, but there is a narrative here (and amongst saints fans in general) that he is the root cause of everything. 

See also; the people who think our unbeaten run started and ended with his injury a couple of seasons back. 

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2 hours ago, Chez said:

Hard to get past Kieffer Moore bossing him on the opening day of the season. Edwards showed he wasn't great in the air and wasn't very quick either. For me, winning headers is essential for a cb, so I struggle to understand how he earned such a good reputation at Peterborough.

Completely agree.  I think the reputation comes from being a bit more comfortable on the ball than a lot of cbs.  People look at that and seem to place more importance on it than good defending (same with 'keepers too).  Having said that, I don't think Edwards showed any great composure for us either.  Good luck to him and all that but I can't see him being anything other than an average championship defender.

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Posted
3 hours ago, coalman said:

I'm torn on this. I haven't seen him put in a good performance in a Saints shirt yet. But then he hasn't put in many performances in a Saints shirt. But then, when he has played he's look more of a liability than the rest of our back line. But then he's been played at right back or in a 3. 

I don't think we've given him a decent crack in a Saints shirt but, given our central defenders, the bar for standing out is not high.

Given he's not getting in the team, better to have him off the books. Another example of Sports Republic's scattergun recruitment after our promotion.

People forget he's still very young for a centre back, only just 22. I think there's a good player in there, he's struggled in this ridiculous back 3 like they all have. We've done our usual thing of throwing in a young player without any leaders around them and expecting them to swim, this club never seems to learn. In defence you need an experienced leader, we dont have one and haven't since Fonte left and it effects everyone around them. It isn't just coincidence that we've had some many centre backs who on paper look good signings but look hopeless soon as they join us.

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Posted
14 minutes ago, Turkish said:

People forget he's still very young for a centre back, only just 22. I think there's a good player in there, he's struggled in this ridiculous back 3 like they all have. We've done our usual thing of throwing in a young player without any leaders around them and expecting them to swim, this club never seems to learn. In defence you need an experienced leader, we dont have one and haven't since Fonte left and it effects everyone around them. It isn't just coincidence that we've had some many centre backs who on paper look good signings but look hopeless soon as they join us.

Totally. Same goes for most promising players we bring on in any position. We don't have an environment where they can flourish.

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1 hour ago, revolution saint said:

Completely agree.  I think the reputation comes from being a bit more comfortable on the ball than a lot of cbs.  

That makes sense. I am sure he looked classy at that level.

And when you are a top flight club, a centre back that is good on the ball is something you are looking for, but that has to come with the basic attribute of being good in the air. You have to have someone dominating in the air at the back and he doesn't look capable of that.

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1 minute ago, Chez said:

That makes sense. I am sure he looked classy at that level.

And when you are a top flight club, a centre back that is good on the ball is something you are looking for, but that has to come with the basic attribute of being good in the air. You have to have someone dominating in the air at the back and he doesn't look capable of that.

Why do we seem to look for the wrong things in players? Goalkeepers that cant save shots but are good with the ball at their feet. Defenders that cant defend but can play out. Full backs who cant defend but can put crosses in. CDMs who can pass but cant tackle etc etc. It's all very well being a nice footballing team, but you go to be able to stop the other team scoring as well.

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Posted (edited)
21 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Why do we seem to look for the wrong things in players? Goalkeepers that cant save shots but are good with the ball at their feet. Defenders that cant defend but can play out. Full backs who cant defend but can put crosses in. CDMs who can pass but cant tackle etc etc. It's all very well being a nice footballing team, but you go to be able to stop the other team scoring as well.

I guess in recent times the signing Quarshie has shown a slight change in philosophy, favouring physical attributes over ball skills. Before that Ramsdale was signed for his shot stopping ability not his skills on the ball. Not sure anyone signs a midfielder for his tackling these days. 

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My personal feel is that we've used him poorly, I know some won't agree and will say he's played poorly when he's played - and he has, not disagreeing - but you only have to look at what's around him. 

I'll be interested to see how he gets on at QPR, my general hunch is that he'll be sold to the PL for 20-30m in a few years and we'll still be languishing down here.

And if the club have deemed him surplus 1 and a bit years into his time here, it really does hammer home how horrendous and damaging that PL summer transfer window was for us. The only player part of our regular team today who was part of that £127m spend is Nathan Wood, and he's utterly horrific himself.

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1 hour ago, Chez said:

That makes sense. I am sure he looked classy at that level.

And when you are a top flight club, a centre back that is good on the ball is something you are looking for, but that has to come with the basic attribute of being good in the air. You have to have someone dominating in the air at the back and he doesn't look capable of that.

Winning headers is about the most basic thing you want from a CB, surprisingly Edwards has won more headers per game (2.4) than Wood (1.7) , Quarshie (1.9) and Stephens (1.2).. Stephens has won 18 headers in 15 appearances this season ffs, Harwood-Bellis has won 76 in 21 by comparison

Posted
20 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

 

I'll be interested to see how he gets on at QPR, my general hunch is that he'll be sold to the PL for 20-30m in a few years and we'll still be languishing down here.

 

Can't see it myself - he's not big enough or quick enough for the premier league.  He could be the best ball playing cb going (not that there was any evidence of him being anything special with the ball here) but as a cb he's just not physically cut out for it at higher levels.

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1 hour ago, S-Clarke said:

The only player part of our regular team today who was part of that £127m spend is Nathan Wood, and he's utterly horrific himself.

...and THB and Downs...and Archer

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Posted
38 minutes ago, Chez said:

...and THB and Downs...and Archer

All true but neither does it extinguish S-Clarke’s point that summer 2024 was an appalling transfer window for a newly promoted club. 

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2 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

My personal feel is that we've used him poorly, I know some won't agree and will say he's played poorly when he's played - and he has, not disagreeing - but you only have to look at what's around him. 

I'll be interested to see how he gets on at QPR, my general hunch is that he'll be sold to the PL for 20-30m in a few years and we'll still be languishing down here.

And if the club have deemed him surplus 1 and a bit years into his time here, it really does hammer home how horrendous and damaging that PL summer transfer window was for us. The only player part of our regular team today who was part of that £127m spend is Nathan Wood, and he's utterly horrific himself.

We'll see but I just don't see a PL player in him at all, he doesn't have the attributes, and even his much hyped ability on the ball hasn't been evident. He's looked like a deer in the headlights.

You say Wood has been horrific, and I agree he's not been great, but has still been better than Edwards.

Posted
1 hour ago, Chez said:

...and THB and Downs...and Archer

That is true, I've always looked at Downes and THB as being ours prior to that window anyway. THB at least was an obligation at that point.

Archer - doesn't really play for us, not a regular anyway.

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