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4 hours ago, CSA96 said:

The same West Brom ITK who had all the Fellows to Saints info last summer is saying that they’re in talks with us to sign Cameron Archer for £5m (£3m initial payment, £2m in bonuses) 

I would hope they’d be a few clauses added in there, maybe sell on fees too.

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15 hours ago, CSA96 said:

The same West Brom ITK who had all the Fellows to Saints info last summer is saying that they’re in talks with us to sign Cameron Archer for £5m (£3m initial payment, £2m in bonuses) 

In line with what I’d heard although relatively low fee reflective of the wages Archer is on. Club clearly decided it’s better to dump those with the introduction of SCR. 

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Posted
38 minutes ago, Saint Lefty said:

I can’t see why we shouldn’t swap D Downes for Ballard. Great deal for Orient.

 

An excellent and inventive suggestion, with just one tiny flaw. One, we don't have a player called D Downes. 

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19 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

An excellent and inventive suggestion, with just one tiny flaw. One, we don't have a player called D Downes. 

I'll worry about spelling accuracy when he improves his shooting accuracy. Even his first name is misspelt, so I'm not sure it matters much. Either way, I'm not holding my breath.

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Posted
Just now, CSA96 said:

Daily Mail reporting we have rejected an offer of £24m from Fulham for Shea Charles

Can’t be that desperate for cash although depends what the £24m was made up of eg £5m Fulham reaching the ECL.

Posted
45 minutes ago, CSA96 said:

Daily Mail reporting we have rejected an offer of £24m from Fulham for Shea Charles

The +£1m incremental increase in bids (if true) are pretty wild.

Posted
1 hour ago, CSA96 said:

Daily Mail reporting we have rejected an offer of £24m from Fulham for Shea Charles

If he didn't feel valued by the Club before surely he will now, come on Shea sign a new contract and reach the promised l;and with us.

Posted
On 20/07/2026 at 10:48, saintant said:

Sorry but I don't get this. The factors you mention have not been ignored on here - in fact they've been widely discussed.

such maybe the case, but many still condemn him when he had little choice after the club failed to

take advantage of the extension clause in his original contract. Not sure he wanted to leave ..or ? 

Posted
8 hours ago, ally_uk said:

I'd sell Archer, Diaz, Downes 

Larin 

Ross Stewart bring back.

Sign Ballard and play Nicholas Oyekunle

 

So to confirm you want to sell Larin who we only signed permanently a matter of weeks ago?!

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Posted
5 hours ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said:

Maybe if we gave him an 'e' it may help...

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I watched enough of that Ipswich podcasting bloke during the playoffs to last me all year - I can't see him being a great motivator for Downs

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Posted
6 hours ago, HKsaint said:

So do we need to stop every transfer until Tonda’s position is clear?

Yes.  Absolutely.  It's the only sensible course of action to take.  Especially given the FA's lack of promptness which could mean the position isn't clear until after the January window closes.  Good plan though.

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On 22/07/2026 at 15:38, CSA96 said:

The same West Brom ITK who had all the Fellows to Saints info last summer is saying that they’re in talks with us to sign Cameron Archer for £5m (£3m initial payment, £2m in bonuses) 

Dobbin looks a swap for Archer so would be not at all surprised to see Archer go back to the Midlands.

And different websites say different numbers, but most seem to say Cameron Archer is one of the higher paid players in the squad at around £2m per year so that can come off our books too.

 

Posted
25 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

THB on 7,500 a week while Azaz on 50,000 a week.

I’m pretty sure THB will be looking for a move ASAP if that is correct?

Wants to sack his agent if after a 20million pound transfer he was on 15k per week! Safe to say he’s more likely on 15-20k per week.

Posted
1 hour ago, Pilchards said:

THB on 7,500 a week while Azaz on 50,000 a week.

I’m pretty sure THB will be looking for a move ASAP if that is correct?

Read somewhere else THB was on £500k per year. Something we need to sort if we want to keep him but opinion on here seems to suggest he will be off this summer.

Posted
1 hour ago, Pilchards said:

THB on 7,500 a week while Azaz on 50,000 a week.

I’m pretty sure THB will be looking for a move ASAP if that is correct?

No way is that true. Highly doubt Azaz is on anywhere near that either. 

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Will be interesting to see who makes the plane today although given it's only a couple of hours away maybe it won't prevent anyone from being sold. It may show our intentions though if we leave anyone behind (Ramsdale, bbd, Archer? Charles?)

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2 hours ago, Stu Man Do said:

Wants to sack his agent if after a 20million pound transfer he was on 15k per week! Safe to say he’s more likely on 15-20k per week.

He'll be on quite a bit more than that

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4 hours ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

Dobbin looks a swap for Archer so would be not at all surprised to see Archer go back to the Midlands.

And different websites say different numbers, but most seem to say Cameron Archer is one of the higher paid players in the squad at around £2m per year so that can come off our books too.

 

That video is just embarrassing. 🫣

No way it's accurate whatsoever.

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To be honest I just don’t get all the overblown fascination with player salaries. Every single pro player around the World earns considerably more than most people can dream of ever earning, relative to the country they play in. It’s a short-term career with significant long-term injury risk. My advice is get over it and concentrate on the value the player brings to the team - much more important IMHO.

When you start thinking about value, it’s clear that it’s the collective value that is so important. For example, I would argue that the value of THB to the team right now under Eckhert is high - in fact, try to think of players that don’t fit that mould. Probably fringe players like Ramsdale, Archer, Roerslav, Larios, Sanda etc. would not affect the collective spirit of the 1st team if they left.

Posted
20 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Roerslav

Didn't see much of him under Eckhert, given his previous success at Brentford I still have some hope he can do well.

Has Sugawara gone yet?

Posted
46 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

how do you know?

TBF it’s an element of common sense. Has been England u21, full cap, City, won promotion already with Burnley before he joined us.

Average L1 salary around £5k or nearer double for the better players, he won’t be on less than that.

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34 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

Didn't see much of him under Eckhert, given his previous success at Brentford I still have some hope he can do well.

Has Sugawara gone yet?

No rumours or anything since Werder didn’t take up their buy option as expected. Late loan near the end of the window, perhaps with a fairly low obligation to buy I expect.

These footballers and their agents make me laugh outside of the very elite levels. Look at Joe Aribo, his agent convinced him last summer that Saudi clubs wanted him and how much money they were going to earn. Tumbleweed, he didn’t have a proper pre-season, size of a house when he did appear, and didn’t pull up any trees at relegated Leicester. Free agent, no rumours but his agent probably still dreaming away and blowing smoke up his arse. At least Saints got one of their biggest earners off the books, 12 months later than they wanted but Leicester helped out with the loan from January, 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Every single pro player around the World earns considerably more than most people can dream of ever earning, relative to the country they play in. 

That's complete bollocks.

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Posted
21 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

TBF it’s an element of common sense. Has been England u21, full cap, City, won promotion already with Burnley before he joined us.

Average L1 salary around £5k or nearer double for the better players, he won’t be on less than that.

These wages received by Saints players are similar on different websites which suggests they're either from one source and other sites copy or maybe there's some truth in them. It could also be that THB's agent is particularly smart and THB receives other benefits in kind in addition to cash in the bank.

And Gloucester Saint, you're so right about these sodding agents. Admittedly a few years ago now, but at my local club Woking, players on £20k pa would come in with their agent to negotiate their new pays deals. You can just imagine the agent promising all kinds of stuff while taking their 10% cut which the players could hardly afford. 

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Posted
16 hours ago, Patches O Houlihan said:

So to confirm you want to sell Larin who we only signed permanently a matter of weeks ago?!

No it's the way I worded it, obviously keep Larin..

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Robinson's with the squad in Germany. Sesay, yeah no idea what happened there. Thought he was going to be our midfield cover going into last season, but just completely disappeared after pre-season.

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Robinson really doesn't seem to have benefited from Tonda - I really thought he was going to kick on last year and become a very important player for us. Obviously the injury didn't help, but maybe he doesn't fit into Tonda's system?

Posted
3 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

TBF it’s an element of common sense. Has been England u21, full cap, City, won promotion already with Burnley before he joined us.

Average L1 salary around £5k or nearer double for the better players, he won’t be on less than that.

plus, players demanding £20m transfer fees don't earn bobbins.

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2 hours ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

These wages received by Saints players are similar on different websites which suggests they're either from one source and other sites copy or maybe there's some truth in them. It could also be that THB's agent is particularly smart and THB receives other benefits in kind in addition to cash in the bank.

And Gloucester Saint, you're so right about these sodding agents. Admittedly a few years ago now, but at my local club Woking, players on £20k pa would come in with their agent to negotiate their new pays deals. You can just imagine the agent promising all kinds of stuff while taking their 10% cut which the players could hardly afford. 

Just a little bit of comparison from the past.
Just after the end of WW2 Saints nearly got promoted twice from the old Second Division to the First Division.
The older supporters (or more likely their fathers) will remember one season (1948/9?) when Saints were 8 points clear at the top at Easter (when there were only 2 points for a win) and they fell away after star striker ,Charlie Wayman, was injured in the 1-0 win at White Hart Lane in front of over 70,000 supporters.
The Saints Board announced a profit of £20,000 for that season!!
Mind you when I first started going to The Dell, the cost to get in was 1/-, equivalent of 5p in todays money.
Johnny Haynes of Fulham was the first £100 a week player in the 1960's.
Most players had to get a part time job outside the season as they were either on nil or restricted wages.

 

Posted
28 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

Robinson's with the squad in Germany. Sesay, yeah no idea what happened there. Thought he was going to be our midfield cover going into last season, but just completely disappeared after pre-season.

Pre-season showed to me at least that he wasn't ready for first team football. Still and Tonda obviously thought the same.

Posted
43 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

Robinson's with the squad in Germany. Sesay, yeah no idea what happened there. Thought he was going to be our midfield cover going into last season, but just completely disappeared after pre-season.

Sesay played a lot at left back last season.

(Typed knowledgeably, but first found out when @Over land and sea updated the contracts thread. 🙂)

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