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    Ings, Bertrand and Cedric were maybes I believe for Saturday so should be a greater chance of seeing them this week.

    Full week to train as well get some ideas across, next to contenders for terrible centre back of the week to try out. I am presuming Stephens might get a shout with Bednerak. Then we'll be back to Hoedt who hasn't done any howlers in front of the new manager yet.

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    Just looking for a better system/performance from the team in this one, if we get something out of the game it will be a real bonus - they are on a hot run at the moment.

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    It will be interesting to see what the new manager thinks about players now after watching them in a match. People sit on this board and complain about certain players (or all the players), but its meaningless and usually uneducated. I am looking forward to seeing what changes he makes to roles, time, and formations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Game over
    Yeah same as Man Utd I'm sure.

    Arsenal have done really well, but it won't keep going. They're due a few poor results and they've still looked dodgy in defence quite a few times. We can get at them, hopefully it'll be a more attacking line up than the Cardiff game.

    Least after a week with them it'll be clear right away who Ralph thinks isn't putting in enough effort.

    I think we'll get another draw here.

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    One advantage we'll have is that Emery likes to adapt to the opposition but no one besides Ralph really knows how we're going to play or even any of the starting XI besides a couple. Looking at his previous clubs will only get you so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tajjuk View Post
    Ings, Bertrand and Cedric were maybes I believe for Saturday so should be a greater chance of seeing them this week.

    Full week to train as well get some ideas across, next to contenders for terrible centre back of the week to try out. I am presuming Stephens might get a shout with Bednerak. Then we'll be back to Hoedt who hasn't done any howlers in front of the new manager yet.
    To be fair on Hoedt, as bad as he has been he has never been as bad a Vestergard was on Saturday.

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    actually think with Arsenal having a makeshift defence we'll get something on Sunday as long as we have Bertrand and Ings back - looking forward to it.

    Hopefully fans get behind the side seeing as it's Hasehuettl's first game

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    Quote Originally Posted by wild-saint View Post
    To be fair on Hoedt, as bad as he has been he has never been as bad a Vestergard was on Saturday.
    Though he has been nearly as bad on many occasions.
    The difference with Hoedt is that one day he will be good, whereas Vestegaard will never be better than hopeless.

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    I think the difference is that Hoedt thinks he's Franz Beckenbauer but plays more like Franz Ferdinand (the band). Vestergaard looks to me like a player who has realised he's been rumbled, a bit like Forster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saint97 View Post
    actually think with Arsenal having a makeshift defence we'll get something on Sunday as long as we have Bertrand and Ings back - looking forward to it.

    Hopefully fans get behind the side seeing as it's Hasehuettl's first game
    They could have the cast of 'last of the summer wine' at the back & we wouldn't get anything from the game.

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    Again. Again. Again. Again. Get fit and hope for a Miracle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VectisSaint View Post
    Though he has been nearly as bad on many occasions.
    The difference with Hoedt is that one day he will be good, whereas Vestegaard will never be better than hopeless.
    Vestegaard had a bit of a stormer on his debut against a more physical Burnley side.

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    Our Central defence against Arsenals make-shift full back pairing shouts goal-fest.

    So nil nil it is then!

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    Going by form, it looks like a 0-4 to me. Desperate for a CB in 2019.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    This game will mark 951 days since we last beat a top 6 side in the league.

    Got a funny feeling we will pinch this one*

    *cheeky insurance bet placed just in case


    Not sure why anyone still hankers after us beating a top side, I just wish we could beat anyone.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by disconnect View Post
    Vestegaard had a bit of a stormer on his debut against a more physical Burnley side.
    Eh? He wasn't bad in that game, but I'm sure more than a few people commented that he wasn't quite as dominant in the air as they were expecting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verlaine1979 View Post
    Eh? He wasn't bad in that game, but I'm sure more than a few people commented that he wasn't quite as dominant in the air as they were expecting.
    I certainly remember him being very dominant that game.

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    No sign of Ings, Bertrand or Obafemi in the short training video just posted...

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    I mean, it's getting to the point in the PL (and certainly for Saints) that if this was an option teams would take it. If nothing else they will field a weakened team because they know they can't get anything from the match.

    In matches against teams outside the top 5, the top 5 have won 89% of the points available. You might expect that against, say, the bottom 5, but not against the rest of the entire division. With nearly half the season gone that is an insane statistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    No sign of Ings, Bertrand or Obafemi in the short training video just posted...
    Any truth that Bertrand suffering from Januaryitus?

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    Ings is proving to be the injury liability many of us expected he would be unfortunately. How many games has he already missed this season with his blister and now hamstring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Any truth that Bertrand suffering from Januaryitus?
    Yes. He’s having a paddy. He’s got the hump. Armband has been taken off him and he’s acting up. He’s a trouble maker.

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    Doubt Bertrand will play for us again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFC-TID! View Post
    Yes. He’s having a paddy. He’s got the hump. Armband has been taken off him and he’s acting up. He’s a trouble maker.
    Your opinion or ITK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFC-TID! View Post
    Yes. He’s having a paddy. He’s got the hump. Armband has been taken off him and he’s acting up. He’s a trouble maker.
    Can't see RaHa putting up with that for very long....

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    If there’s any truth to the Bertrand stuff we could do with a big club suffering injury problems at left back. Liverhampton maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LGTL View Post
    Doubt Bertrand will play for us again.
    Any big clubs need a left back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFC-TID! View Post
    Yes. Hes having a paddy. Hes got the hump. Armband has been taken off him and hes acting up. Hes a trouble maker.
    Have you ever posted anything that has materialised??

    You talk from a position of authority but personally I think you chat ****e.

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    I'll believe it when I see it.It could be that someone has made 'enquiries' and we will let him go in order to be able to finance an incomer in January.If so then good luck to him as he's not been performing very well for us recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenue_Saint View Post
    Have you ever posted anything that has materialised??

    You talk from a position of authority but personally I think you chat ****e.
    Yes, I have

    Personally, I think you’re the end of a bell. Don’t need to justify anything to anyone. I just pass on what I get told.

    However, am happy to tell the mods my sources if they so wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Any big clubs need a left back?
    City maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFC-TID! View Post
    Yes. He’s having a paddy. He’s got the hump. Armband has been taken off him and he’s acting up. He’s a trouble maker.
    Anything in particular that has brought this on?

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    I think attack is the best form of defence for this one. Arsenal may be somewhat makeshift at the back and we will have had a full week of training to work on shape, pressing triggers etc.

    Bad news if Bertrand is done with us, as Targett doesn't have the engine to get up and down sufficiently.

    If we assume Ralph wants the 4222 and that Ings, Obafemi and Long are injured then I'd go with:

    -------------Redmond--------Gabbi-------------

    ---------Lemina--------------------Armstrong

    -----------Romeu-----Heeyoibee-erg--------

    Cedric----Yoshida----Bednarek----Stephens

    ---------------------McCarthy---------------------------

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjii View Post
    I think attack is the best form of defence for this one. Arsenal may be somewhat makeshift at the back and we will have had a full week of training to work on shape, pressing triggers etc.

    Bad news if Bertrand is done with us, as Targett doesn't have the engine to get up and down sufficiently.

    If we assume Ralph wants the 4222 and that Ings, Obafemi and Long are injured then I'd go with:

    -------------Redmond--------Gabbi-------------

    ---------Lemina--------------------Armstrong

    -----------Romeu-----Heeyoibee-erg--------

    Cedric----Yoshida----Bednarek----Stephens

    ---------------------McCarthy---------------------------
    Good team. I can't believe I'm saying this: But Shane Long would be handy in that formation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Good team. I can't believe I'm saying this: But Shane Long would be handy in that formation.
    Oh, definitely. Poor man's Timo Werner!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFC-TID! View Post
    Yes. He’s having a paddy. He’s got the hump. Armband has been taken off him and he’s acting up. He’s a trouble maker.
    Shame to read that; but it's very believable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austsaint View Post
    Shame to read that; but it's very believable.
    My comments would be:

    1. He "lost the armband" through suspension at Fulham i.e he had to lose it for that game

    2. I don't see any good PL sides that need a left back. City are coping just fine without Mendy, he will be back soon anyway and Bertrand is probably a bit old for their style

    3. I was speaking to someone close to the squad at the Fulham game, someone who speaks to RB on a semi-regular basis and he said that Bertrand is totally misunderstood and that he is well respected, professional and a leader within the squad.

    Personally, and this may be very nave but I don't think RB would stop playing football in November just because he is fed up of being at Saints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    My comments would be:

    1. He "lost the armband" through suspension at Fulham i.e he had to lose it for that game

    2. I don't see any good PL sides that need a left back. City are coping just fine without Mendy, he will be back soon anyway and Bertrand is probably a bit old for their style

    3. I was speaking to someone close to the squad at the Fulham game, someone who speaks to RB on a semi-regular basis and he said that Bertrand is totally misunderstood and that he is well respected, professional and a leader within the squad.

    Personally, and this may be very nave but I don't think RB would stop playing football in November just because he is fed up of being at Saints.
    Good to read your comments. I've always liked RB, and at his top, sprinting down the flank, linking up with an attacking player and whipping a cross in there are few better in the modern game. I hope you are right - would love to see him back soon, working with Ralph and re-energising our squad. The new Manager needs players like Bertrand to launch the recovery from our plight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    My comments would be:

    1. He "lost the armband" through suspension at Fulham i.e he had to lose it for that game

    2. I don't see any good PL sides that need a left back. City are coping just fine without Mendy, he will be back soon anyway and Bertrand is probably a bit old for their style

    3. I was speaking to someone close to the squad at the Fulham game, someone who speaks to RB on a semi-regular basis and he said that Bertrand is totally misunderstood and that he is well respected, professional and a leader within the squad.

    Personally, and this may be very nave but I don't think RB would stop playing football in November just because he is fed up of being at Saints.
    If I was to bet on this, or him having thrown a wobbly, I would be betting on this.

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    Utter nonsense about Bertrand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baird of the land View Post
    I certainly remember him being very dominant that game.
    Yep - pretty sure there were a lot of people singing his praises after that game - I think he's just the current boo boy and people have short memories these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabbage_Face View Post
    Utter nonsense about Bertrand.
    Naive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFC-TID! View Post
    Naive.
    Truth. Sadly he will go Jan

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    3 nil Arsenal

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    Underless RaHa is a miracle worker, I can't see us getting anything but a new one torn for us if teams like Fulham and Cardiff can create so many chances against us with relative ease :-(

    Happy to be proven otherwise. Hopefully Cedric and Bertie will come back fresh and re focused for the job at hand. And Ings with his goalscoring boots back on would be a bonus!!

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    Hoping for a change of fortunes this Sunday as the players have been doing 3 x double sessions from Monday to Weds.
    Long and Ings again are doing light ball work and no chance of being ready for Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabbage_Face View Post
    Utter nonsense about Bertrand.
    Your remark only gives weight to this being the truth. It's not like this hasn't been mentioned elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFC-TID! View Post
    Yes. He’s having a paddy. He’s got the hump. Armband has been taken off him and he’s acting up. He’s a trouble maker.
    Quote Originally Posted by Avenue_Saint View Post
    Have you ever posted anything that has materialised??

    You talk from a position of authority but personally I think you chat ****e.
    I think you should apologise, Avenue. I have no idea who TID may be, but he is definitely ITK. If he says it, I believe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pilchards View Post
    Hoping for a change of fortunes this Sunday as the players have been doing 3 x double sessions from Monday to Weds.
    Long and Ings again are doing light ball work and no chance of being ready for Sunday.
    Thank you for the updates from the training ground Pilchards, much appreciated.

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