meatball Posted 26 January, 2019 Share Posted 26 January, 2019 What other club would take him? I think the club is trying to find buyers for players but can't find any takers for the worst ones and they are on such inflated wages here that we can't even find clubs prepared to take them on loan. Loving the compulsion to judge a player after playing for 6 months in the most physical and difficult league in the world (half of that time being in and out of a team playing badly under Hughes). It seems that if a player isn’t an instant success he is immediately written off as not good enough or atrocious in some strange cases. Moi has not been very good by any stretch, but I will continue to do the sensible thing and not pass judgment on him until he’s had a fair crack. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 26 January, 2019 Share Posted 26 January, 2019 Don't knock him - he did well in the Under 23 match against Middlesbrough two weeks ago and now that Parkes has been sold, presumably Cull moves up the pecking order. I actually had a good chat to his mum after that match. He has come up through the academy alongside a lot of other players who are starting to get noticed now, so who knows what his development might look like in the next few years. Personally I will be chuffed if he doesn't ever get culled but instead goes on to become a great future keeper for us! Wasn't his brother Ben with us too, but had to retire after cancer treatment? Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 26 January, 2019 Share Posted 26 January, 2019 Some absolute drivel on here. IMO its all good business. None of these players, Cedric aside, have contributed this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 26 January, 2019 Share Posted 26 January, 2019 Exactly this. IMO we don't need to sign replacements for players who aren't first choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 26 January, 2019 Share Posted 26 January, 2019 You really don’t get it do you..we are offloading cos Hassenhütl wants a smaller squad to concentrate on and execute his playing style. None of the released players suit his style end of so keeping them will do more harm than good. Depends. Yes, if the club brings in a quality striker and RB; most of us will be happy with that. If no replacements are brought in, it's a stupid gamble to save peanuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downthe36 Posted 26 January, 2019 Share Posted 26 January, 2019 Wasn't his brother Ben with us too, but had to retire after cancer treatment? Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Sadly that's the one. Both played for England age groups, as well as their sister who also plays for Saints and England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 26 January, 2019 Share Posted 26 January, 2019 Depends. Yes, if the club brings in a quality striker and RB; most of us will be happy with that. If no replacements are brought in, it's a stupid gamble to save peanuts. These super lean squads are a good idea. Didn't do Hull any harm.... Remember the 16-17 squad pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyD Posted 26 January, 2019 Share Posted 26 January, 2019 Hi guys! Long time lurker, first time poster! I must say I like Hasenhuttl's comments about keeping a small squad of 18-20 players and then the rest youth players. There is currently a list of about 10 players at the club I wouldn't be too fussed if they left, we have: Barnes, Elyounoussi, Flannigan, Forster, Gallagher, Austin, Hesketh, McQueen, Rose and Seager. I think if we can remove these players to trim the fat so to speak, we can bring in that Maehle right back, and also try and bring in a creative midfielder, or potentially a striker. I wouldn't have minded keeping Austin however he appears on his way out. Leaves us with a good solid squad of 18, with a whole bunch of exciting youth players coming through the ranks. Very good times to be a Saints fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 26 January, 2019 Share Posted 26 January, 2019 So are we actually signing anyone? Or are we just going to systematically weaken our current team and hope kids and inexperience can secure our premiership status.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Pete Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 So are we actually signing anyone? Or are we just going to systematically weaken our current team and hope kids and inexperience can secure our premiership status....Seems like that's probably the plan. But it's ok because Ralph is the Messiah, so a good squad is not important any more.... Hopefully. Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 How are we weakening the team. We haven’t sold anyone of the first xi. Cedric has Only played as fill in 3rd choice left back under Ralph. Even if we shift Austin & bring no one in we have 20/21 players & u21 on top of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 How are we weakening the team. We haven’t sold anyone of the first xi. Cedric has Only played as fill in 3rd choice left back under Ralph. Even if we shift Austin & bring no one in we have 20/21 players & u21 on top of that. This ^^^^^^^^ We have some real numptys on here. We have been on a good run, without these players, so how the hell are we weakening the team, a team that has Yoshida, Lemina and Bertrand to return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Pete Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 How are we weakening the team. We haven’t sold anyone of the first xi. Cedric has Only played as fill in 3rd choice left back under Ralph. Even if we shift Austin & bring no one in we have 20/21 players & u21 on top of that.Are you happy with Valery and Ramsey as our only specialist right backs? Really? If we replace Cedric with a reasonably experienced right back, I would be happy we've not been majorly weakened by this window. Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Are you happy with Valery and Ramsey as our only specialist right backs? Really? If we replace Cedric with a reasonably experienced right back, I would be happy we've not been majorly weakened by this window. Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk Happy with Valery as first choice which he’s been since Ralph took over. I’d prefer we bring in another right back target this window but if we have to wait to the summer to get the right person that’s ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 We seem to be gambling on getting very few injuries, which is odd given we've had a lot of injuries even in Ralph's short time here. We might not have weakened the 1st team 11 but we have weakened the squad and consequently our bench. If Austin goes too then that's 5 experienced backups gone when realistically we are still heavily fighting relegation. So daft in fact that we simply must be signing 2-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 (edited) Utter bants this place. Selling 4 players that have either been frozen out or been on the bench is now weakening our starting eleven. Cedric was only used as a last measure and Austin wasn’t even on the bench last few games. If Ralph doesn’t want these players, then I’d rather trust his experience in battling relegation with small squads and a mix of good players and youth. [emoji23] This place will be a mess after palace beat us and Zaha has a field day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited 27 January, 2019 by Cabbage_Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Rangers transfer news: Southampton target Tavernier but Gerrard wants £8m to trigger talks Football addict on their captain Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Rangers transfer news: Southampton target Tavernier but Gerrard wants £8m to trigger talks Football addict on their captain Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Saw that quoted on the bbc gossip column. Only seen him on tv once v Celtic where he did play very well. On the other hand, his pre rangers career doesn't shout out top quality, Scottish football is weak, and I think his contract is up this summer so 8 million does seem a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Actually, transfer market says contracted until 2022. In which case might be an option. Was the stand out player in that particular old firm game, but one match on tv is almost as reliable as YouTube clips for assessing players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBitterne Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Excellent going forward but can be very suspect defensively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 How are we weakening the team. We haven’t sold anyone of the first xi. Cedric has Only played as fill in 3rd choice left back under Ralph. Even if we shift Austin & bring no one in we have 20/21 players & u21 on top of that. Which rather points out how weak we are in both sides of the fullback/wing back positions doesn't it? given our favoured formation of 3-4-3 the wingbacks are pretty vital and we have two left backs that are injured more often than not a young right back who is still learning and an even younger rightback who isn't ready as back up. No one has any problem with shifting out the chaff in the squad but surely the whole point of freeing up money by shifting players out was to give us funds to strengthen the squads weak areas to avoid relegation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Rangers transfer news: Southampton target Tavernier but Gerrard wants £8m to trigger talks Football addict on their captain Rangers must need to sell a player to 2 soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Nixon saying we are keen on Che Adams of Birmingham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Nixon saying we are keen on Che Adams of Birmingham. He's done very well this season. Still only 22. Think we were linked with him when he was at Sheff Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimborne_saint Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Nixon saying we are keen on Che Adams of Birmingham. He's also just said Jean-Kevin Augustin from Leipzig is on the market for the last few days of the window. Asking price was originally 40m but that has been lowered.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 The squad was too big, it needed a mass cull and I am absolutely delighted that it is finally happening. Gabbiadini aside, who I think could have done well under Ralph, not one of the players who has departed or is rumoured to be leaving will be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 The squad was too big, it needed a mass cull and I am absolutely delighted that it is finally happening. Gabbiadini aside, who I think could have done well under Ralph, not one of the players who has departed or is rumoured to be leaving will be missed. Yeah but, no but... I agree totally but the reaction from some on here is laugable... and not just from the trolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Which rather points out how weak we are in both sides of the fullback/wing back positions doesn't it? given our favoured formation of 3-4-3 the wingbacks are pretty vital and we have two left backs that are injured more often than not a young right back who is still learning and an even younger rightback who isn't ready as back up. No one has any problem with shifting out the chaff in the squad but surely the whole point of freeing up money by shifting players out was to give us funds to strengthen the squads weak areas to avoid relegation? Bertrand history hardly points to someone injured more often or not. Shifting players out is to give Ralph the sized squad he wants and help summer restructure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 We seem to be gambling on getting very few injuries, which is odd given we've had a lot of injuries even in Ralph's short time here. We might not have weakened the 1st team 11 but we have weakened the squad and consequently our bench. If Austin goes too then that's 5 experienced backups gone when realistically we are still heavily fighting relegation. This. Its ok though cos we wont get anymore injuries and wont need back up players, let alone experienced pros if things go tits up results wise in the next couple of months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Hi guys! Long time lurker, first time poster! I must say I like Hasenhuttl's comments about keeping a small squad of 18-20 players and then the rest youth players. There is currently a list of about 10 players at the club I wouldn't be too fussed if they left, we have: Barnes, Elyounoussi, Flannigan, Forster, Gallagher, Austin, Hesketh, McQueen, Rose and Seager. I think if we can remove these players to trim the fat so to speak, we can bring in that Maehle right back, and also try and bring in a creative midfielder, or potentially a striker. I wouldn't have minded keeping Austin however he appears on his way out. Leaves us with a good solid squad of 18, with a whole bunch of exciting youth players coming through the ranks. Very good times to be a Saints fan! Generally agree, albeit still holding a candle for Hesketh who has looked class when fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Generally agree, albeit still holding a candle for Hesketh who has looked class when fit. It's really funny to see which of the youth/ ex youth players people favour. Hardly any have played meaningful minutes, but it seems that for every fan of sims there's a fan of hesketh, for every fan of Gallagher there's a fan of reed. As it happens I'm with you, have a soft spot for hesketh for no sensible reason whatsoever, whereas I'm not too fussed about sims. Can't explain why, absolutely no idea ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Bertrand history hardly points to someone injured more often or not. Shifting players out is to give Ralph the sized squad he wants and help summer restructure. I must have missed all the games he has played recently then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 I must have missed all the games he has played recently then... Because bertrand has been unlucky enough to pick up an injury this season does not mean he's going to spend the rest of his season/career injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Mail reporting Luca Connell from Bolton. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Pete Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Yeah but, no but... I agree totally but the reaction from some on here is laugable... and not just from the trollsIf we don't replace Cedric with an experienced right back, our only 2 specialist right backs will have just 10 senior League games between them. Is it really "laughable" to question whether that's a good idea in a relegation battle? There are rumours that the club are trying to sign a more experienced RB though, so maybe they agree with those of us who think that would be quite sensible after all? Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Mail reporting Luca Connell from Bolton. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Interesting article: https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2019/1/26/18198311/could-luca-connells-performances-for-bolton-wanderers-help-david-lees-credentials-for-the-top-job Talks of David Lee, presumably a youth team coach. Possibly the same David Lee who put in such dazzling wing displays for us after being signed by Branfoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 He's also just said Jean-Kevin Augustin from Leipzig is on the market for the last few days of the window. Asking price was originally 40m but that has been lowered.. Now him I wouldn’t mind; Ralph knows him well which might be a pull. Would give us the pace and directness we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Loads of football agent talks at the moment. Its amazing how they feed the press to get a client out there for availability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Rangers transfer news: Southampton target Tavernier but Gerrard wants £8m to trigger talks Football addict on their captain Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Rangers fans saying they should rip our arm off for 8m , Can't defend for toffee !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Nixon saying we are keen on Che Adams of Birmingham. On twitter he also said we have other striker targets, though he didn't name them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Which rather points out how weak we are in both sides of the fullback/wing back positions doesn't it? given our favoured formation of 3-4-3 the wingbacks are pretty vital and we have two left backs that are injured more often than not a young right back who is still learning and an even younger rightback who isn't ready as back up. No one has any problem with shifting out the chaff in the squad but surely the whole point of freeing up money by shifting players out was to give us funds to strengthen the squads weak areas to avoid relegation? Don't panic! We needed to reduce the squad and the wage bill before we build up. And the build up doesn't need to be until the summer. Even with no purchase we will be fitter and stronger and more together than when the window opened and every academy type will be filled with new incentive and hope. We were drifting as a club now we have direction and purpose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 He's also just said Jean-Kevin Augustin from Leipzig is on the market for the last few days of the window. Asking price was originally 40m but that has been lowered.. Unless Gao finds some cash down the back of the sofa, I can't imagine this being possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/southampton-make-first-move-birminghams-13913539.amp?__twitter_impression=true First bid for Che Adams of 8m rejected, expected to go back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Loving the compulsion to judge a player after playing for 6 months in the most physical and difficult league in the world (half of that time being in and out of a team playing badly under Hughes). It seems that if a player isn’t an instant success he is immediately written off as not good enough or atrocious in some strange cases. Moi has not been very good by any stretch, but I will continue to do the sensible thing and not pass judgment on him until he’s had a fair crack. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Six months not long enough!!! Really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Very good player, and the type of player we should be aiming for. I'd be surprised if we didn't have to pay a hefty seven-figure fee though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 On twitter he also said we have other striker targets, though he didn't name them. Any chance it's that fella Billy Sharp at Sheff Utd? He's a good striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Adams is a similar profile to Ollie Watkins from Brentford who we have also been linked with. That type of player, to compete with Redmond and Armstrong, is exactly what we need IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/southampton-make-first-move-birminghams-13913539.amp?__twitter_impression=true First bid for Che Adams of 8m rejected, expected to go back in. They’ll want double that plus add ons and % sell on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 On twitter he also said we have other striker targets, though he didn't name them. Hopefully one of those is Agustin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 27 January, 2019 Share Posted 27 January, 2019 Hopefully one of those is Agustin. How much to get him tho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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