Jason Wilcox

[TheAlehouseBrawlers]

9 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

Next person that comes in needs to be told that they will be here for the duration of the contract signed as minimum. 

Unless he's shit and we sack him. But, yes, in an ideal world.........

[Turkish]

Jack Stephens as Director of football?

[Stu Man Do]

4 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Jack Stephens as Director of football?

Tried him in every other position so why not? 😛 

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, Stu Man Do said:

Tried him in every other position so why not? 😛 

Exactly, let’s show horn him into the boardroom as well

[Holmes_and_Watson]

Clive Woodward is but a call away.

[Zorba]

“Director of Football” “Technical Director”

What a load of old bollocks!

 

 

 

 

[beatlesaint]

8 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

Yeah sure mate. Someone sign this guy up to the CoT

You know he only asked you a simple, civil question dont you ? FFS

[Badger]

13 hours ago, Bad Wolf said:

Paul Allen?

Might have to exhume him first.

Unless you mean the one that played for us in the 1990's.

[david in sweden]

Inevitable perhaps, and watching our partial decline after the record-breaking run was broken may have hastened his departure, but

- along with the mammoth salary that Radcliffe will approve for him it's quite likely that the result was a foregone conclusion.

If he's lucky.. he may not have sold his house in Manchester yet. 

 

For those of us who may be looking for revenge.  How about promotion for Saints and doing the double over United next season ?

We can only hope that those who worked alongside him for the last 9 months were taking notes, as he is / was someone who is successful in his field.

Edited April 20 by david in sweden

[Saint_clark]

3 hours ago, Zorba said:

“Director of Football” “Technical Director”

What a load of old bollocks!

 

 

 

 

The entire footballing world is wrong. You are right.

[Lord Duckhunter]

2 hours ago, david in sweden said:

watching our partial decline after the record-breaking run was broken may have hastened his departure,

Yeah, had we beaten Bristol City I reckon he’d have turned Utd down. 

[Ex Lion Tamer]

 

[Toussaint]

1 minute ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

 

First time in my life I’ve ever had sympathy for United fans. 

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

 

looking forward to seeing Harry Mcguire playing out from the back this way.

[S-Clarke]

34 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

 

Hmm, maybe this was all on Wilcox then. I don't believe you can go into a club as a new regime and demand a specific style of play from the get go, you have to work with what you've got and then evolve. This nonsense about teams becoming a possession based 'over night' is propaganda. That sort of talk rings alarm bells for me.

[pimpin4rizeal]

Can’t we just get Cortese back .. I would love this

[Ted Bates Statue]

1 hour ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

 

They've already taken our director of football, very concerning news if Russell Martin is in the frame to replace Ten Hag. Why can't they leave us alone?

Edited April 24 by Ted Bates Statue

[Suhari]

1 hour ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

 

That's the sort of behaviour that often leads to a new boss being told to fuck himself.

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 hour ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

 

You’ve got to laugh  Wilcocks telling a bloke whose proved himself a half decent manager, how he’s going to play. Who are these fucking chancers that are becoming  hipster DoF’s.  If they sign the players & dictate the tactics then they’re the fucking manager. It seems to me they want the power but not the responsibility. The bottom line is he would have to start at Hartlepools or some other outpost and they don’t want to put the hard yards in. Fucking blaggers. 

Edited April 24 by Lord Duckhunter

[CB Fry]

2 hours ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

 

We've got just the guy for this.

 

[Galway saint]

2 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

We've got just the guy for this.

 

he can deliver 64% possession  and still somehow concede 5 goals and have no shots on target - genius 

[Dman]

2 hours ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

 

The arrogance of this bloke, who’s previous experience is working with Kids and 6 months at a championship side, to go into a club like united and just demand they play a certain way. Dickhead. 

[Badger]

54 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

You’ve got to laugh  Wilcocks telling a bloke whose proved himself a half decent manager, how he’s going to play. Who are these fucking chancers that are becoming  hipster DoF’s.  If they sign the players & dictate the tactics then they’re the fucking manager. It seems to me they want the power but not the responsibility. The bottom line is he would have to start at Hartlepools or some other outpost and they don’t want to put the hard yards in. Fucking blaggers. 

When we first had Directors of Football in this country it was a more experienced old hand providing guidance to a younger manager ( Lawrie for Bally perhaps, and before that Ted Bates for Lawrie, although he’d probably been horrified at such a title). 

Now it’s some fucker in a sharp suit, or skinny jeans, after a spell coaching the U12’s, armed with a laptop, dictating to a track suited (manager) head coach.

The DoF can play at beng the manager, without facing the flak, that goes with it. If it goes tits up, then sack the head coach. 

Bring back Sir Clive. 

 

[Dark Munster]

Quote

 

June 21, 2023

Southampton's chairman Henrik Kraft said Martin was the 'stand-out candidate' in their recruitment process.

'We are extremely excited to welcome Russell to Southampton,' Kraft said.

'Russell was the stand-out candidate throughout our recruitment process and we are confident his strong track record, alongside the experienced leadership of our new Director of Football, Jason Wilcox, will deliver great results.'

Wilcox added: 'Russell has shown fantastic qualities in his managerial career so far and is someone who we believe will thrive in the great environment we have here at Southampton.

'He is a fantastic fit for what we are trying to achieve, with a strong record of developing and nurturing young, talented players to fulfill their potential and deliver results on the pitch.

 

What a bunch of morons.

[Galway saint]

3 hours ago, Dark Munster said:

What a bunch of morons.

‘strong track record’  - must have missed that amongst the mid table finishes 

[Ted Bates Statue]

It's probably not too much of a stretch to say most football managers have to answer to the owners in some shape or form, and it's been that way for generations. I'm sure Brian Clough had plenty to say about boardroom interference in his day. Nowadays there's a bit of extra separation from the suits. Ratcliffe has decided he wants to put his own stamp on things so he's brought Wilcox to be his puppet and we've got some pocket money out of it, no doubt to be spent on whoever's next in line from Man City's academy conveyor belt in the summer. Katharina had Les Reed and didn't we do well with him. Maybe see if we can prise him away from Wrexham and get him back here. I want to see exciting, attacking football, taking the game to our opponents by playing a high-intensity game. And he certainly knows how to achieve it. Let's bring him home. Dragan and Rasmus need to get it done, and preferably before the playoffs so we can get our new manager bounce at just the right moment.

Edited April 25 by Ted Bates Statue

[Chez]

17 hours ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

 

The United website paints a different picture and their story about the meeting between the two has ten Hag saying that they are behind schedule, in what I presume is the summer transfer negotiations.

If Nixon's story (about an instruction on a change of playing style) is true, then Ten Hags days seemed numbered. If he has coached the players to play one way (not a possession-based game) and then suddenly changes at the drop of the new owners and Wilcox's hat, he's not going to look credible to the players. Better to bring a new guy in who believes in that method, like RM.   

[Badger]

23 minutes ago, Chez said:

The United website paints a different picture and their story about the meeting between the two has ten Hag saying that they are behind schedule, in what I presume is the summer transfer negotiations.

If Nixon's story (about an instruction on a change of playing style) is true, then Ten Hags days seemed numbered. If he has coached the players to play one way (not a possession-based game) and then suddenly changes at the drop of the new owners and Wilcox's hat, he's not going to look credible to the players. Better to bring a new guy in who believes in that method, like RM.   

Imagine the uproar if Utd appoint Russell in the summer.

[Weston Super Saint]

51 minutes ago, Badger said:

Imagine the uproar if Utd appoint Russell in the summer.

I'd cheer.

[pimpin4rizeal]

11 hours ago, Dark Munster said:

What a bunch of morons.

Problem is for them he kinda did fit the bill ., let’s be honest since Cortese we have had mainly a bunch of new age hipster types in charge who are absolutely about bringing propaganda football and thinking they have some new age plans ..

much prefer having a guy like cortese in charge who is cracking heads to get results 

[Lighthouse]

1 hour ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Problem is for them he kinda did fit the bill ., let’s be honest since Cortese we have had mainly a bunch of new age hipster types in charge who are absolutely about bringing propaganda football and thinking they have some new age plans ..

much prefer having a guy like cortese in charge who is cracking heads to get results 

I’ve no idea what this is supposed to mean and people keep saying it. We’ve played a variety of different styles since Cortese left, from the old school, simple Hughes and Jones types to Ralph’s high press and Martin’s possession based game. None of these are exactly revolutionary, Martin is only playing the same philosophy that won Spain a bunch of trophies 15 years ago.

[CB Fry]

7 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

I’ve no idea what this is supposed to mean and people keep saying it. We’ve played a variety of different styles since Cortese left, from the old school, simple Hughes and Jones types to Ralph’s high press and Martin’s possession based game. None of these are exactly revolutionary, Martin is only playing the same philosophy that won Spain a bunch of trophies 15 years ago.

Comes from the same garbage bin as "all the managers I don't like are just yes-men".

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Problem is for them he kinda did fit the bill ., let’s be honest since Cortese we have had mainly a bunch of new age hipster types in charge who are absolutely about bringing propaganda football and thinking they have some new age plans ..

much prefer having a guy like cortese in charge who is cracking heads to get results 

so Corteses vision of champions league football in our newly expanded 50,000 capacity Cortese dome with a team full of academy graduates playing expansive football under a latin manager wasn't the slighest bit hipster?? 

[Turkish]

18 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

I’ve no idea what this is supposed to mean and people keep saying it. We’ve played a variety of different styles since Cortese left, from the old school, simple Hughes and Jones types to Ralph’s high press and Martin’s possession based game. None of these are exactly revolutionary, Martin is only playing the same philosophy that won Spain a bunch of trophies 15 years ago.

i like the idea that Les Reed and Ralph Kruger were new age hipsters lol

[Miltonaggro]

2 hours ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Problem is for them he kinda did fit the bill ., let’s be honest since Cortese we have had mainly a bunch of new age hipster types in charge who are absolutely about bringing propaganda football and thinking they have some new age plans ..

much prefer having a guy like cortese in charge who is cracking heads to get results 

[Whitey Grandad]

3 hours ago, Badger said:

Imagine the uproar if Utd appoint Russell in the summer.

Uproarious 

[Toussaint]

19 hours ago, Dman said:

The arrogance of this bloke, who’s previous experience is working with Kids and 6 months at a championship side, to go into a club like united and just demand they play a certain way. Dickhead. 

Easy to see now what Rasmus saw in him, they are like two peas in a pod.

[Toussaint]

5 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Uproarious 

I think I’d be able to demonstrate an admirable degree of stoicism.

[Weston Super Saint]

40 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said:

Only another 20 years or so before I become a hipster 😎

[Whitey Grandad]

34 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

I think I’d be able to demonstrate an admirable degree of stoicism.

It would take a heart of stone not to laugh.

[Wade Garrett]

I don’t get the fascination with possession football.  It’s just a fad that will probably disappear when Pep either leaves City or changes his philosophy.

 

[adrian lord]

Corporatism in football is so nauseating.

[Midfield_General]

Just so I’m clear, what does being a hipster actually mean in this context, according to the Saintsweb intelligentsia?

I like the suggestion upthread that wearing jeans and/ or a suit, and owning a laptop, is at the dangerous cutting edge of innovation and should therefore be scorned and discarded as new-fangled witchcraft. Absolutely amazing 

[spyinthesky]

Leicester fans were critical of their Manager for playing tippy tappy football and missing loads of chances.

They were far more direct than us on Tuesday whilst we went more direct with Baz Ball missing yet got slaughtered.

[CB Fry]

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

so Corteses vision of champions league football in our newly expanded 50,000 capacity Cortese dome with a team full of academy graduates playing expansive football under a latin manager wasn't the slighest bit hipster?? 

Didn't Cortese insist on taking bespoke bedsheets to our hotels?

And "We don't want the newspapers to get photographers take pictures at our home matches anymore" is just about the most new age hipster load of old shit anyone could ever think up.

Edited April 25 by CB Fry

[CB Fry]

Also, I would have enjoyed us finishing seventh, then sixth, then eighth in Premier League but the whole thing was more new age than a joss stick exhibition. Utterly sickening all of it.

Edited April 25 by CB Fry

[pimpin4rizeal]

3 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

I’ve no idea what this is supposed to mean and people keep saying it. We’ve played a variety of different styles since Cortese left, from the old school, simple Hughes and Jones types to Ralph’s high press and Martin’s possession based game. None of these are exactly revolutionary, Martin is only playing the same philosophy that won Spain a bunch of trophies 15 years ago.

It’s not just that it’s the obsession with city youth players etc too .. in choosing Martin we went for possession over results .. he’s done exactly what was on the tin when selecting him 

[Lighthouse]

25 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

It’s not just that it’s the obsession with city youth players etc too .. in choosing Martin we went for possession over results .. he’s done exactly what was on the tin when selecting him 

‘Results’ isn’t a style of football. I’ve no idea why anyone would think we prioritised a particular style over actually winning games. We thought we would succeed playing the way we did, it’s that simple. We weren’t wrong as such, it’s simply that the players and the manager who implemented that style didn’t get it right.

We don’t have an obsession with City youth players either, we hired Shields and Wilcox, who both have a strong link to their academy, and went with the highest rated prospects they knew from their previous employment, with mixed results.

[CB Fry]

40 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

It’s not just that it’s the obsession with city youth players etc too .. in choosing Martin we went for possession over results .. he’s done exactly what was on the tin when selecting him 

Oh, I get it now. The problem is Russell Martin is sending them out to not win.

Obvious really when you, like, think about it.

Edited April 25 by CB Fry

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

Didn't Cortese insist on taking bespoke bedsheets to our hotels?

And "We don't want the newspapers to get photographers take pictures at our home matches anymore" is just about the most new age hipster load of old shit anyone could ever think up.

Yes he did and mattresses I believe 

his banning of the press was almost as funny as going back to them with him tail between his legs when they would use the clubs name referring to us as south coast club. Plus a sponsorship deal with the biggest recruitment company in chillworth was as hipster as it comes  

Edited April 25 by Turkish