Mr X Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, Saint NL said: Half time Not the best performance of late, but in a good position to win this. It was bad, allowing them break after break hopefully we don't pay the price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Alcaraz on for Stephens and KWP to right back for me. Doubt Russ will pull off Jack though (oo-er missus) 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, SaintNewForest said: I'm not watching. Just following all you good chaps on here and Twitter. Bit tiresome seeing constant criticisms of the same old players, game in game out. I’d take it for red that it’s probably largely accurate what those are saying about Manning 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 It's an obvious change for me. Adams on for Stephens and KWP back to RB where he is best. Arma back to the right hand side, where he is best. Let's get the players in their best positions please, Russell. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Chuck Adams and Alcaraz on and have a few shots at goal this half. Don’t try and walk it in. Shoot on sight and rile Norwich up a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SaintNewForest said: I'm not watching. Just following all you good chaps on here and Twitter. Bit tiresome seeing constant criticisms of the same old players, game in game out. Okay, let me explain. Basically every single time Norwich get the ball in the central midfield area, their player looks up (or doesn't every time thankfully). And out far on the right wing in acres of space is Stacey. Every time he is there and free. Where is manning you might ask? Marking no one and about 20yards away from him. Maybe he's been told to do that, but whatever it is, its Norwich's most likely route to getting a goal. Also, i think Stacey should have seen red for his tackle, so what i absolutely do not want is us to concede a goal to a diagonal pass out to stacey, to then assist a goal, and us lose 1-0. Edited January 1 by Saint86 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said: Bree is still injured. Oh. Shame, he makes us so more solid defensively I think. Manning losing his man time and time again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, SaintNewForest said: I'm not watching. Just following all you good chaps on here and Twitter. Bit tiresome seeing constant criticisms of the same old players, game in game out. Then, with the best will in the world, maybe you should trust the word of those who are watching instead of sniping. Manning's defending is utterly diabolical. he simply isn't, and never will be, a defender. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 7 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Pretty much anyone else in the team scores that 😂 Really good move though. WTF are you on about? That was a really sweet attempt. There really are a good number of whining, self-entitled babies on this forum - Saints are well on top and will have to be patient. Manning has played OK, Stephens has played OK but the forum experts have to have their whipping boys. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Plenty of possession. Norwich defending deep. Saints getting some good balls into the penalty area but nobody able to profit - apart from Stephens who managed to find the woodwork from a good opening. Norwich look dangerous on the break. Loads of space for them down Saints left and Deliah's crew probably had the better openings. That tackle on Edozie probably deserved a red card. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patches O Houlihan Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 One benefit of having Jack on the pitch is we have 3 really good headers of the ball: So better to defend set pieces (a likely scoring avenue for Norwich). But also better to attack corners, which we are likely to have loads of. Hopefully KWP can learn to be effective in a more advanced position if we are going to continue playing this set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, Sheaf Saint said: Then, with the best will in the world, maybe you should trust the word of those who are watching instead of sniping. Manning's defending is utterly diabolical. he simply isn't, and never will be, a defender. It's a shame he can't defend because he's actually got a really good left foot on him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, Sheaf Saint said: Then, with the best will in the world, maybe you should trust the word of those who are watching instead of sniping. Manning's defending is utterly diabolical. he simply isn't, and never will be, a defender. If he's so set on playing him I don't get why we don't play Stephens and KWP at left and right back (either way round) and put Manning further forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Chuck Adams and Alcaraz on and have a few shots at goal this half. Don’t try and walk it in. Shoot on sight and rile Norwich up a bit more. I'd prefer Mara to Che. Agreed though: need a couple of changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Kwp back at right back please ....Maybe Adams and Alcaraz on......not creating a lot but quite hard as Noewich just parking the fn Bus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 There wasn;t a lot on there, but KWP in his new role takes far too long with the ball at times. That time, coming out of our own defence. Frustrating from us. Loads of possession. Not as many nearly moments. Not enough efforts on goal. Certainly not enough dangerous ones. They soaked it up for 20 mins. Having watched our previous games, they['ve seen that 1) We can run out of ideas early on, with our passing, and our temp drops 2) we will always leave massive gaps with Manning on the park. We've decided to push KWP even further forward, supported by Stephens. KWP is skillful, gets lots of touches and is very mobile. Bu, considering the output, it's just as dribbly and indirect as Edozie on the other side. We're better with someone more direct to balance out the flanks. If KWP is looking to dribble all the time, then Fraser needs to be the direct, driving one. Norwich had an offside and a couple of decent counters. But nothing on target in the end. We were a bit disjointed defending them. Aribo not looking as mobile today, and seems to be the one who's supposed to be filling some of the gaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, washsaint said: WTF are you on about? That was a really sweet attempt. There really are a good number of whining, self-entitled babies on this forum - Saints are well on top and will have to be patient. Manning has played OK, Stephens has played OK but the forum experts have to have their whipping boys. Maybe you should pay better attention, I'm one of the only people on here defending the performance today, I think it's been pretty good. But Stephens should have got that chance on target no doubt, completely unchallenged and set up perfectly with a slow moving pass on the ground on the edge of the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: It's a shame he can't defend because he's actually got a really good left foot on him. Yeah he does. He did a lovely little take, turn, and low cross into the box earlier. But we've got some of the best wingers / attackers in the league who can do that job - what we need is a reliable defensive LB first and foremost. Edited January 1 by Saint86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 we've dominated, again. Norwich have had two breakaways and that's it. Not sure why there is so much criticism. Personally, Im fine with Stephens at right back. It means KWP can attack with little concern about the holes he leaves. Jack has done OK. He hasn't been exposed at all. We look pretty solid and he adds some height fo set pieces. Going forward, we have got behind them a couple of times. On the odd occasion I think we missed having a target man as the crossing has been decent but AA lacks that size. Hopefull. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 71% possession 10 shots and 1 on target. Should be winning this.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Looks a repeat of Plymouth game so far. They defend deep and relying on a break away. We have all the possession all the corners but no goals yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Fairly standard away from home performance so far. Dominate the ball, create a little and look slightly vulnerable on the break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madge Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Aribo really playing it safe.. don’t think he’s attempted to take on a Norwich player yet. Just don’t get the Stephens addition today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 12 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Really don’t like this formation. It turns into a 3 at the back and our wings just get massively exposed. Manning looks like he doesn’t understand the concept of playing left back. Also don’t think the positional switch suits KWP, it nullifies him. It really looks like Stephens has been shoe-horned in and it has upset the balance of the team. Alcaraz needs to come on for Stephens, KWP to RB. Though AA is having a good game, his partnership with Adams worked well recently. Norwich dangerous on the counter and have acres of space when Manning is so narrow. Glad there isn't a VAR, but if there was, Stacey would have received a straight red card for that awful challenge on Edozie. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M271 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Then, with the best will in the world, maybe you should trust the word of those who are watching instead of sniping. Manning's defending is utterly diabolical. he simply isn't, and never will be, a defender. To be fair I’m not watching on a stream today but when watching on sky on Friday some of the comments about our apparent poor play in the first half had no resemblance to what I was seeing, which imo was pretty good play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield_General Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Bunch of whinging tarts on here. 71% possession to their 29% 10 shots to their 3 1 on target to their 0 8 corners to their 0 …away to a perfectly respectable mid-table side. Reading the comments on here you’d think we were getting murdered. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 I don’t know why some people are moaning, this is the way we play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 KWP prospers down that RW because he often is overlapping or underlapping. So he’s the one that plays the accurate final ball in. He has no real support given that Stephens isn’t as mobile in terms of getting forward and back again. Stephen’s is a dominant header of the ball. Great. Lump him up top, he’ll probably get on the end of more than Che Adams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 4 minutes ago, washsaint said: WTF are you on about? That was a really sweet attempt. There really are a good number of whining, self-entitled babies on this forum - Saints are well on top and will have to be patient. Manning has played OK, Stephens has played OK but the forum experts have to have their whipping boys. What are you on about? He was in acres of space. A simple touch and turn inside would have opened up the entire goal to shoot at - 2 touches and a goal. No one is knocking Stephens, he did the best he could, but he's a cb playing at the expense of a more attacking player and that is probably a prime example of where that trade off doesn't work. Norwich are parking the bus, we don't need 5 defenders on the pitch.... How is that being turned into a "whipping boys" debate?! And as for "whipping boys" and specifically Manning - you have to be being deliberately obtuse if you're happy with how we're defending our left wing? Its completely unnecessary and leaving us wide open. Either thats on Manning (in which case i'd expect Martin to be sorting it at halftime), or its on Martin (and i hope he changes it). Manning hasn't done anything else wrong - people are just rightly concerned that we've got 5 defenders on the pitch and yet no left back every time Norwich counter! God forbid fans aren't happy about that... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 You'd hope to have more than 1 on target from 10 shots but 1 goal from about 10 shots is Saints scoring ratio so expect an early goal 2nd half. 😇 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, Midfield_General said: Bunch of whinging tarts on here. 71% possession to their 29% 10 shots to their 3 1 on target to their 0 8 corners to their 0 …away to a perfectly respectable mid-table side. Reading the comments on here you’d think we were getting murdered. Goals matter. Not the amount of bloody attempts. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block41 Saint Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Adams on for Bednarek according to Hammond. That's a blow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) No subs at half time Edit: nope, Adams on! Edited January 1 by trousers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Adams on for Bednarek?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Weird change, hopefully he's no injured. But hope we see a bit more upfront now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Adams on for Bednarek? Jan did get a knock in the first half, and I guess it kind of solves a problem for Russ in that he can now play his captain in his natural position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Yeah. Not sure about taking Bednarek off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Well it sorts the formation issue but that’s bloody harsh on Janny B if he’s not injured. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Bednarek has been our best player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Oh no. this looks bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Wth was that sub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 KWP down and not moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Not surprised to see KWP injured. They've been trying to do it to him all game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) If Bednarek isn't injured and he gets dropped for Stephens then Martin is a clown. Especially as KWP now needs to come off and we're going to need to move Stephens back out there and play Charles at CB... Edited January 1 by Saint_clark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Kwp looks in a bad way again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Any chance we can bring Bednarek back on? 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Saints players getting a right old kicking from Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, Disco Stu said: Not surprised to see KWP injured. They've been trying to do it to him all game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 KWP looks in pain there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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