Lee On Solent Saint Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just don't understand why the changes were needed? Keep a fuckin winning team. The team from Friday deserved to stay unchanged. Who gives a shit that players aren't getting minutes, they are professional footballers, if they don't like it fuckin move on. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Do we think that was a pen near the end of the half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 minutes ago, obelisk said: Getting overrun in midfield. Not for the first time. Midfield? What midfield? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benali-shorts Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Rothwell Smallbone Stu terrible dynamic in midfield. Pedestrian, Rothwell turns like a fucking container ship. As for Manning, every time he cuts back they’re all over our CBs denying a pass out. Manning too thick to work it out. Useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Tuesday nights in the championship use to be a wheeze that last time we were in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just now, goodymatt said: Do we think that was a pen near the end of the half? No. Foul by us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just now, coalman said: Rothwell scored two cracking goals the other week, but.... Not going to happen today, surely he won't be coming out for the second half.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Smallbone and Rothwell = no midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) 1 minute ago, badgerx16 said: No team should be so dependent on one player. We did disprove that a bit on Friday Edited February 20 by Winnersaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 minute ago, badgerx16 said: No team should be so dependent on one player. Especially not a loan player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Presumably RM will be beating himself up again after watching the replay of this non-performance. Hull even handed Rothwell an open goal but that was spurned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 We cannot get out of their press, they have so much more energy and willingness to bust a gut. Thats not tiredness on our part it’s fucking laziness. Just watch their tracking back when we do het through and compare it to ours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) Martin has had an absolute shocker tonight. Really poor selection. We all knew that midfield would get overrun. The Mara experiment should end there. Couldn't trap a bag of cement in that first half. Don't get me started of Adam Armstrong, Joe Rothwell and Ryan Manning.. Edited February 20 by Harry_SFC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 minute ago, Convict Colony said: Too many players not being "brave" and passing it back to gav all the time, bascially its ping pong and doesnt get to the forwards at all. It does, problem is it is the Hull forwards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver Saint Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 WTF was that? Our system has been totally found out...it's suicidal 'we've only got one way of playing out of the back even if there's no pass on because of the high press'...added to weaker players (please get Manning away from our team...Rothwell having a nightmare too...Smallbone is crap, sorry I said it but he is just so not the creative midfield maestro we need, nor is he a tackler)...add to that no energy or imagination and we're cooked. We have learnt absolutely nothing from Huddersfield and Bristol. I really fear for us now. Now prove me wrong and come back and score 5... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Hull score another and it really is game over, our only hope is an early goal to build a bit of confidence, that looks a pipedream at the moment though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) Looks like if this doesn't improve at FT its the old tactic of going to sleep, avoiding here and pretending it never happened. Edited February 20 by Convict Colony 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Looks like the lads have concrete in their boots. Being turned inside out defensively and offering little going forward. I'm afraid to say it reminds me heavily of our peformance against Sunderland earlier this season. Really didn't expect this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermcpete Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Still got most possession though haven't we? That's the real quiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Oooft. That was a tough watch. We've talked about the strength and depth of our bench. Unfortunately we have decided to start with our weak links in the first eleven. Others aren;t capable of putting a stamp on the game, partly as a result of that. Downes is the biggest miss. Rothwell isn;t cpable at present of fulfilling that role. We had no control over the midfield and he was constantly giving it away when we had it. Poor decision making on a standard press gifted them their second. Smallbone looks caught out both defensively and going forward. He makes himself availalbe form the back two. But isn;t a DM. So not much control. Not many passing options around him, so unable to make an impact there either. Edozie used to just run at defences due to poor decision making. Tonight, he's had very few options around him to help him out. Manning has offered nothing in support, either wehn trying to push up and offered little defensive cover when Hull have pushed forward. Mara needs support to thrive. He's not ahd any and has been peripheral. Half a team of players not anywhere near the required level tonight. Stu, with a couple of late moments, and AA, who has been very quiet, not able to carry them. Across the team, we've managed little control, haven;t made much of our possession and have given no real moments of our trademark passing moves. Looking forward to a much better second half from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty's Caddy Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Appropriate ht music……benny hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Very damaging not least because these will be in the play-offs with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Dark Munster said: As others have said, I don't like the midfield, it's an accident waiting to happen. Teachers' pet and hopeless defender Manning shoe horned (ironically) in place of Stephens, and also no Shea. I have a horrible feeling the first half it'll be like Huddersfield, and by the time RM fixes it with subs it may too late this time. Who would’ve f**king predicted it? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorba Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Stephens, Brooks, Fraser ..and Romeu on please! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just now, Dark Munster said: Who would’ve f**king predicted it? Very prescient! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Seething that he didn’t change that midfield when the whole fucking world could see it needed changing. Baffling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just now, Matty's Caddy said: Appropriate ht music……benny hill Followed by start me up by the rolling stones, "you make a grown man cryyyy" 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Ditto chez. As far as i can tell he did absolutely nothing before they eventually scored No.2. Really worrying. Maybe he thought we could hold on till half time and he could give them a proper reset, but i was also thinking we absolutely had to drag off manning for stelphens and rothwell/smallbone for Charles at 30min... was so obvious. The second was coming. We were getting murdered and he did fuck all. It was calling out for a shuffle of some sort. Maybe he doesn't have a plan b? Not really his style to make early changes to be fair. Slow and steady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just now, sfc4prem said: Looks like the lads have concrete in their boots. Being turned inside out defensively and offering little going forward. I'm afraid to say it reminds me heavily of our peformance against Sunderland earlier this season. Really didn't expect this! I expect this every game. So most of the season has been a happy bonus. 60 years of watching this lot has prepared me for this sort of shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 18/02/2024 at 23:12, Maggie May said: I don’t think we’ll win. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Perhaps now people will start realising that Saints aren't going up automatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smatt48 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Aribo and Brooks not out at HT with the other subs kicking it about. Does this mean they are both on 2nd half? Here's hoping!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just now, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said: Perhaps now people will start realising that Saints aren't going up automatically. Nor in the play-offs with Hull in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Big problems require big solutions - my first sexy nun of the season in feb !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Will be disappointed if we don’t get some response in the 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Boo to Russ ball 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gallaghert366@yahoo.com Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 minute ago, Harry_SFC said: Martin has had an absolute shocker tonight. Really poor selection. We all knew that midfield would get overrun. The Mara experiment should end there. Couldn't trap a bag of cement in that first half. Mara was dire against WBA. He showed poor control and poor passing ability He is not Champioship material. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just now, saintant said: Nor in the play-offs with Hull in the mix. It will have no bearing on what may or may not happen in the POs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 minute ago, Chez said: The second was coming. We were getting murdered and he did fuck all. It was calling out for a shuffle of some sort. Maybe he doesn't have a plan b? Not really his style to make early changes to be fair. Slow and steady. Martin has repeatedly said he does not believe in a plan b. Just a better plan a. Which should lead to 5 half time subs, and everyone with a kick up the rear, after that 45. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway saint Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 minute ago, Dark Munster said: Who would’ve f**king predicted it? Could have been more than 2. We have started the game with several of our better players on the bench and zero control in midfield. You can’t play that midfield and manning. The wheels are in danger of coming off if we are not careful - need to get fraser, aribo, brookes and adams on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 13 minutes ago, CanadaSaint said: I’ve got a ton of time for Martin but this was an arrogant, “I know better” starting line up. Two players in key positions who should never be in it, and both of them have been torched. The lineup was flawed. Manning, Rothwell give the ball away or just get caught, Edozie and Mara consequently not doing enough and shouldn't have started. Smallbone no aggression, Mara doing nothing as a starter, Both Armstrongs periphery figures. Stephens, Frazer. Adams and Aribo to replace the four that shouldn't have started. We aren't agressive enough and playing far too slow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just now, Holmes_and_Watson said: Martin has repeatedly said he does not believe in a plan b. Just a better plan a. Which should lead to 5 half time subs, and everyone with a kick up the rear, after that 45. 🙂 What if that was the better plan A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Hot and cold. Not good enough in this league this season. I suppose there's a chance we might fluke the play-offs and get up that way but my money's on another Championship season next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Targeting our left side all that half and harrying all the tippy tappy round the box, worked a dream. Huddersfield Deja vu. About four changes due early second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block41 Saint Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Brooks, Aribo and Che coming on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just now, obelisk said: Hot and cold. Not good enough in this league this season. I suppose there's a chance we might fluke the play-offs and get up that way but my money's on another Championship season next year. You never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 minute ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Which should lead to 5 half time subs, and everyone with a kick up the rear, after that 45. 🙂 Surely there isn't a manager with big enough balls to make 5 subs at half time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just now, Block41 Saint said: Brooks, Aribo and Che coming on all 3 should be starting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Hull with 11 shots to Saints 3. When was the last time the opposition had that at St Mary's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) Who has gone off? EDIT: Rothwell, AArmstrong, Mara Edited February 20 by igsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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