Sheaf Saint Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 7 hours ago, hypochondriac said: I know the golden generation weren't great but when you compare the like of Neville Ferdinand Terry Cole To our current defence. It really does show we are rather poor at the back. That back four picked itself quite easily. The fact that nobody really has a clue what our best back four is these days tells you all you need to know.
adrian lord Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago (edited) Bellingham and Kane aside, this squad is merely last 32 material not even quarters. Saka and Rashford stunk out the wings last night, crossing so badly, and the defence was hair-raising. Midfield anonymous with no movement in front of them to pass into. Edited 13 hours ago by adrian lord
Toadhall Saint Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Not watched one game and by the sounds of things I’ve not missed anything.
hypochondriac Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 28 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: That back four picked itself quite easily. The fact that nobody really has a clue what our best back four is these days tells you all you need to know. Not a single one of our defensive players would have got into that team. Beyond Kane and Bellingham we really lack characters and particularly at the back.
saintant Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago England tend to grow into tournaments. They rarely perform in the group stages as has been the case here. I am hoping we will click now it's a knock-out competition but can't see us getting any further than quarter finals at best unless there is a drastic improvement and a few more players step up to the plate. Saka and Rashford constantly failed to beat their man last night and Anderson was left to do too much in midfield. Morgan Rogers was disappointing and the less said about the defence the better. I like Eze but not sure how he fits into the side. Let's be honest we don't have the elite superstars that other nations are blessed with, too many road sweepers not enough lead violinists.
saintant Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: Not a single one of our defensive players would have got into that team. Beyond Kane and Bellingham we really lack characters and particularly at the back. Not sure what this means other than you seem to be saying no Saints defenders would get into the England team. Hardly surprising seeing as we are a Championship side. 1 2
CB Fry Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, saintant said: Not sure what this means other than you seem to be saying no Saints defenders would get into the England team. Hardly surprising seeing as we are a Championship side. Er, he's talking about Neville / Ferdinand / Terry / Cole and he's right - those four are clearly better than what we played yesterday. No idea why you think he's talking about Saints.
chiknsmack Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 19 hours ago, Dark Munster said: And just wait for the Austria-Algeria lawn chair bore draw. Got the result right, but otherwise this aged like milk. What a game. 1
Badger Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago On 26/06/2026 at 20:23, die Mannyschaft said: Good news on the Scotland front. How is it England end up playing Congo ? Last week we were due to play Senegal who at the time were 7th in the 3rd Place table. That place is now Paraguay, Congo are top.
die Mannyschaft Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago At least England should get to QF then likely meet Brazil then Argentina in SF. https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/48539270/england-route-2026-world-cup-final-road-knockouts-group-l-mexico-brazil-argentina-france-spain-portugal 1
saintant Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, CB Fry said: Er, he's talking about Neville / Ferdinand / Terry / Cole and he's right - those four are clearly better than what we played yesterday. No idea why you think he's talking about Saints. It's a fair cop. I hadn't followed the thread and didn't realise he was talking about previous England teams.
LeBizzier69 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 50 minutes ago, die Mannyschaft said: At least England should get to QF then likely meet Brazil then Argentina in SF. https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/48539270/england-route-2026-world-cup-final-road-knockouts-group-l-mexico-brazil-argentina-france-spain-portugal Japan could be tough to beat…..think they’ve a decent shout v Brazil. we were utter shite last night. Congo should absolutely be gunning for us. A half decent side will put us out. 1
Saint Fan CaM Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 12 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said: Japan could be tough to beat…..think they’ve a decent shout v Brazil. we were utter shite last night. Congo should absolutely be gunning for us. A half decent side will put us out. Agreed - think we look pretty average compared to the usual top teams. I’m perplexed as to why Pickford still starts in goal - I think he’s a calamity waiting to happen and can’t believe there’s not a better English keeper. Then there’s the very average Roger’s, Spence and Anderson making up numbers. Without Rice the midfield looks weak. And the defensive line looks very unbalanced.
AlexLaw76 Posted 8 hours ago Author Posted 8 hours ago 35 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said: Japan could be tough to beat…..think they’ve a decent shout v Brazil. we were utter shite last night. Congo should absolutely be gunning for us. A half decent side will put us out. Tuchel has fallen into the trap of banking on the fitness of injured/injury prone players. Saka has been injured for a long time, James is a sick note (Tino the same), Henderson offers nothing what so ever. That is a shame as Tuchel is a brilliant manager, just gone weird with his squad selection. Madueke and Spence starting in the World Cup is hilarious. 3
qwertyell Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, die Mannyschaft said: At least England should get to QF then likely meet Brazil then Argentina in SF. https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/48539270/england-route-2026-world-cup-final-road-knockouts-group-l-mexico-brazil-argentina-france-spain-portugal We're not beating Mexico in Mexico, should we get by Congo. 2
Dark Munster Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 4 hours ago, chiknsmack said: Got the result right, but otherwise this aged like milk. What a game. Yep, I couldn’t have been more wrong! I’m sure I’m not the only one who didn’t see that coming. Fair play to both teams. I’m sure both teams were well aware of the negative expectations and perhaps decided to go hell for leather instead. Mind you, it did end up in a convenient draw at the end. 😏
VectisSaint Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago On 26/06/2026 at 20:17, Stripey McStripe Shirt said: What's this weird Viking rowing thing the Norwegian fans have started doing. Its up there with "mauled by the tigers" for naffness. Beats the Mexican wave
Patrick Bateman Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago On 26/06/2026 at 20:17, Stripey McStripe Shirt said: What's this weird Viking rowing thing the Norwegian fans have started doing. Its up there with "mauled by the tigers" for naffness. Agreed, embarrassing. Even my wife who normally is a "let people do what they want blah blah" type opinion was like dear god, that is awful 😂 The England fanbase doesn't look the same as usual either, looks 'tame' and sounds quieter in the stadium. Granted I'm not there and can only go by what I see and hear on TV, but it feels sanitised and flat to me??
LiberalCommunist Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Oh no, I'm conflicted. Troy Deeney hates Djed Spence. 1
qwertyell Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Dark Munster said: Yep, I couldn’t have been more wrong! I’m sure I’m not the only one who didn’t see that coming. Fair play to both teams. I’m sure both teams were well aware of the negative expectations and perhaps decided to go hell for leather instead. Mind you, it did end up in a convenient draw at the end. 😏 To be fair, for the final 20 minutes, both teams looked like they'd pretty much agreed to shake hands on a draw and go through the motions. And then in the last minute of injury time, Algeria attacked out of nowhere and scored - the old rope a dope. Which in turn led to Austria throwing the kitchen sink at them in the final seconds remaining, to avoid elimination (and possibly a diplomatic incident).
qwertyell Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 16 hours ago, hypochondriac said: I know the golden generation weren't great but when you compare the like of Neville Ferdinand Terry Cole To our current defence. It really does show we are rather poor at the back. Only Pickford (by default) and Kane would make the Golden Generation XI. Bellingham, Rice, and Saka would probably be in the squad. I suppose you could make a case for Alexander-Arnold being a better back up right back than most, but he's not presently even considered a better right back than, erm, Jarell Quansah by the geniuses in charge. The rest of this current bunch are incredibly average. Let's say (26 man squad): GK: Pickford, James, Robinson/or a decrepit, barely mobile Seaman DF: Neville, Alexander-Arnold, Carragher, Ferdinand, Terry, Campbell, A. Cole, Bridge MF: Beckham, Lampard, Gerrard, Scholes, Rice, Carrick, Hargreaves, Bellingham, J. Cole, McManaman FW: Rooney, Kane, Owen, Saka, Heskey Pointless, Sunday afternoon exercise, I know. But you could cobble together a handy side from that, I reckon. Probably woudn't even need to spy on our opponents to get a point. 1
skintsaint Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 4 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Then there’s the very average Roger’s, Spence and Anderson making up numbers. Don't agree with that one, he has been one of our better players so far.
gio1saints Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 4 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: Tuchel has fallen into the trap of banking on the fitness of injured/injury prone players. Saka has been injured for a long time, James is a sick note (Tino the same), Henderson offers nothing what so ever. That is a shame as Tuchel is a brilliant manager, just gone weird with his squad selection. Madueke and Spence starting in the World Cup is hilarious. Alex - I think Eng have a good chance to make last eight - after that it’s a less easy. BUT how can you describe TT as both a “brilliant manager “ and “ just gone weird with his squad selection” at the same time? If I was asked what was TT main job as England Manager I’d say “ pick the team”. I think he’s doing a fairly good job so far overall. pacing the run to the Final I hope! All the winners don’t do their best stuff early in long tournaments.
Saint_clark Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said: Agreed, embarrassing. Even my wife who normally is a "let people do what they want blah blah" type opinion was like dear god, that is awful 😂 The England fanbase doesn't look the same as usual either, looks 'tame' and sounds quieter in the stadium. Granted I'm not there and can only go by what I see and hear on TV, but it feels sanitised and flat to me?? The mics in the open air stadium's are not picking the fans up very well at all.
JohnnyShearer2.0 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 5 hours ago, qwertyell said: We're not beating Mexico in Mexico, should we get by Congo. That's because England will beat Ecuador in Mexico!
Pilchards Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Larin on the bench for Canada. Was looking forward to watching that, not so sure now.
Window Cleaner Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Canada South Africa for the first knock-out match. Probably not the first choice for most people. Hated the South African team's performances really. A lot of clogging and little skill involved.
adrian lord Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago The female narrator on ITV sport saying there’s been a record number of goals in this World Cup so far. That’s hardly surprising given the massively expanded group stage. 1
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 28 minutes ago, Pilchards said: Larin on the bench for Canada. Was looking forward to watching that, not so sure now. No Larin. No interest. 12 minutes ago, adrian lord said: The female narrator on ITV sport saying there’s been a record number of goals in this World Cup so far. That’s hardly surprising given the massively expanded group stage. In the same annoying bracket as all the countries breaking records by progressing. If everyone's invited, and 8 third place teams go through...
suewhistle Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: No Larin. No interest. I've heard he's quite a useful sub to bring on.. 1
Saint86 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 30 minutes ago, adrian lord said: The female narrator on ITV sport saying there’s been a record number of goals in this World Cup so far. That’s hardly surprising given the massively expanded group stage. She also said, "South Africa did much better against South Africa" 😄
Stripey McStripe Shirt Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago It must feel so shit to be a "host nation" having to play in a neighbouring country that most of you despise.
Window Cleaner Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Why so many pink boots? Is it some sort of spécial occasion?
AlexLaw76 Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago Watched SA in one of their group games and they looked fucking terrible. however, looking pretty handy right now.
PerthshireSaint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Canada wearing their traditional bukkake shirt again I see.
benjii Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 13 minutes ago, PerthshireSaint said: Canada wearing their traditional bukkake shirt again I see. Bukkake ey! 1
Polaroid Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 53 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: No Larin. No interest. 15 minutes ago, PerthshireSaint said: Canada wearing their traditional bukkake shirt again I see. Larin will come on at some point. 1
Toussaint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago I’ve hardly watched any World Cup yet. I’m regretting watching RSA v Canada so far. Like two lower mid championship sides. The pitch looks hard and dry.
Gloucester Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, Toussaint said: I’ve hardly watched any World Cup yet. I’m regretting watching RSA v Canada so far. Like two lower mid championship sides. The pitch looks hard and dry. Blatant penalty to Canada not given and VAR didn’t refer it.
Whitey Grandad Posted 59 minutes ago Posted 59 minutes ago Just now, Gloucester Saint said: Blatant penalty to Canada not given and VAR didn’t refer it. Not a penalty. Foul to South Africa. It was their defender that got kicked.
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 59 minutes ago Posted 59 minutes ago 31 minutes ago, Window Cleaner said: Why so many pink boots? Is it some sort of spécial occasion? If it was for a cause, I'm sure I'd have heard Jordan Henderson's support for them, before dropping them for a middle east payment.
Whitey Grandad Posted 58 minutes ago Posted 58 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, Toussaint said: I’ve hardly watched any World Cup yet. I’m regretting watching RSA v Canada so far. Like two lower mid championship sides. The pitch looks hard and dry. More like League one. 1
Saint Pete Posted 57 minutes ago Posted 57 minutes ago VAR called that one right in my opinion, not a penalty. Defender doesn't get the ball, but the contact between them was initiated by the Canada player so no penalty.
die Mannyschaft Posted 55 minutes ago Posted 55 minutes ago (edited) 38 minutes ago, Window Cleaner said: Why so many pink boots? Is it some sort of spécial occasion? Boot companies all came up with the same purple/pink colour scheme for 2026 to stand out during world cup. This colour scheme also stands out against the green pitch. Ironically no one can say who boots are Nike, puma, addidas, sketchers as all look the same. Puma may have 2 designs with this colour scheme and addidas may have 3 etc. If you honin sports direct the wall of boots is just a block of fashionable colour fif this season. Except the classic Puma King etc Edited 52 minutes ago by die Mannyschaft
sfc4prem Posted 54 minutes ago Posted 54 minutes ago 1 minute ago, Saint Pete said: VAR called that one right in my opinion, not a penalty. Defender doesn't get the ball, but the contact between them was initiated by the Canada player so no penalty. Disagree, the Canadian player would have struck the ball with the foot that the South African player impeded, essentially trapping his leg from being able to kick the ball.
Saint Pete Posted 54 minutes ago Posted 54 minutes ago ITV half time analysis getting it wrong, saying VAR overturned the penalty. No they didn't, ref gave a goal kick! 1
Stripey McStripe Shirt Posted 53 minutes ago Posted 53 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, Saint Pete said: VAR called that one right in my opinion, not a penalty. Defender doesn't get the ball, but the contact between them was initiated by the Canada player so no penalty. The defender definitely got the ball too. Bloody hell, just realised I'm agreeing with Karen Carney. 1
Saint Pete Posted 49 minutes ago Posted 49 minutes ago 1 minute ago, sfc4prem said: Disagree, the Canadian player would have struck the ball with the foot that the South African player impeded, essentially trapping his leg from being able to kick the ball. Sorry but that's utter nonsense! You are allowed to use your body in football to defend, since when has that become a foul? The defender does not foul the attacker, Canada player is playing for a penalty by engineering contact, if anything he kicks the defender. 1
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