stknowle Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 Anyone that does boo him when he's wearing the Saints shirt deserves to be ejected from the ground. Don't agree with that at all. I wouldn't boo him and would hope/expect the majority wouldn't purely on the basis that it would be counter-productive but it would be the very least he deserved. Booing/ironic cheering of hapless tryers - like FF for example - is a different matter and more worthy of your suggested solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 Don't agree with that at all. I wouldn't boo him and would hope/expect the majority wouldn't purely on the basis that it would be counter-productive but it would be the very least he deserved. Booing/ironic cheering of hapless tryers - like FF for example - is a different matter and more worthy of your suggested solution. lets be honest, after a decent game, most will be fine with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 If he waits until the window closes I don't think we can put VVD unconditionally into the team. If the back four and especially the centre backs are keeping enough clean sheets by playing well, as far as I am concerned VVD can wait as back up until a vacancy exists through injury or loss of form. Then, the longer he is out of the team the better we are playing without him. I would take that. If we buy another centre back, which we need to, unless VVD gets a move, on he could well be sitting on the bench for a long time if we are doing well without him. Of course if it is proven that we need him, of course he should play. If he goes now the club are going to look really stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 lets be honest, after a decent game, most will be fine with him How many points would we have dropped in the meantime. By the time he decides to do what he's paid for we could be out the League cup & dropped 4 or 5 points we'd have gained had he been playing. It makes me laugh that some supporters will abuse people doing their absolute best, Puel for one, but are quite happy to forgive someone who is taking the Mick and doesn't want to play. Not only that he compounded the issue by playing the victim with that pathetic statement trying to paint the club in a poor light. People are getting hot & bothered about Mick Quim or Jamie Redknapp disrespecting the club, or plenty of other pundits & writers. Yet the person who is showing more disrespect than them all added together is to be "welcomed back". **** off, not by me he's not. I'd rather see him sit in the stands but if he does deem us worthy of his great talent again, I'll ignore the **** even if he scores. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 Did anyone seriously think he would be back anytime soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 I would always support a player Ina saints shirt unless they were a convicted criminal. Personally I couldn't cheer on McCormack at Plymouth, or historically Collymore, Deeney, etc. Most folk deserve a second chance but no third chance. How is Troy Deeney on his 'third' chance? Sounds like he has made an effort to turn his life around since he went to prison. I understand being sceptical of people who have committed crimes, but such people aren't necessarily innately bad people who can't learn from mistakes or be rehabilitated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 How many points would we have dropped in the meantime. By the time he decides to do what he's paid for we could be out the League cup & dropped 4 or 5 points we'd have gained had he been playing. It makes me laugh that some supporters will abuse people doing their absolute best, Puel for one, but are quite happy to forgive someone who is taking the Mick and doesn't want to play. Not only that he compounded the issue by playing the victim with that pathetic statement trying to paint the club in a poor light. People are getting hot & bothered about Mick Quim or Jamie Redknapp disrespecting the club, or plenty of other pundits & writers. Yet the person who is showing more disrespect than them all added together is to be "welcomed back". **** off, not by me he's not. I'd rather see him sit in the stands but if he does deem us worthy of his great talent again, I'll ignore the **** even if he scores. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I initially thought you were saying we need to get him back in the team asap, if we are "dropping points" all the time he's not playing...! What's best for the team? That isn't limited to "Starting XI ability", but also factors in squad morale and motivation. I'm not sure it sends out the best message to immediately put him in the team as soon as he says he's ready to play again, but equally we'd be silly to leave him on the bench for months due to him "disrespecting" the club. It would be a bit like, I dunno... voting to leave the EU to "make a point", even though the eventual ramifications will be disastrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conaero Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 Is it just me or do others think that the reason for going for Hoedt is to tempt VVD back. Playing week in, week out with someone who will likely partner him for the Dutch national squad can only mean good things??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 I'm the bastard son of Dean Friedman. As an aside, Dean Friedman played in my local a couple of months ago. One of the songs he played was called A Bakers Tale which was a ripost to Half Man Half Biscuit's song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 Is it just me or do others think that the reason for going for Hoedt is to tempt VVD back. Playing week in, week out with someone who will likely partner him for the Dutch national squad can only mean good things??? It may be a positive side effect, but I doubt the club are (and I don't think they should be) basing a £15m investment decision on what might make van Dijk more keen to play for us again. Besides, his agent's greed will take care of that side of things, for better or worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 How is Troy Deeney on his 'third' chance? Sounds like he has made an effort to turn his life around since he went to prison. I understand being sceptical of people who have committed crimes, but such people aren't necessarily innately bad people who can't learn from mistakes or be rehabilitated. There was an interview with him on Radio 5 one evening recently on a long drive home, it was snipped up into bits played across the show, very interesting and very frank about what saw him inside, what an idiot he had been, seems to consider himself very very lucky and has gotten "his $H1t together" as a result. Fair play to him as he no way came over as a bit of a scrote yet admits that he was a bit of one, and could have easily remained one. Right back on subject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 Is it just me or do others think that the reason for going for Hoedt is to tempt VVD back. Playing week in, week out with someone who will likely partner him for the Dutch national squad can only mean good things??? Is he a Dutch Imants Bleidelis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 Is he a Dutch Imants Bleidelis? Kleber Chala / Tin Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 I would be surprised if all the interested parties haven't been in touch with Saints and been told forget it, it's a matter of principle, VVD isn't being sold, we are moving on and when we say not for sale that's what it means. Consequently, no bids. Even if they do try Saints will look absolutely stupid after the we are moving to a different level not selling the players we want to keep statement. The management know that the implications for VVD not having played for eight months already, now looking at not playing for another year will concentrate the mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 Anyone that does boo him when he's wearing the Saints shirt deserves to be ejected from the ground. Have to agree. It was this sort of short sighted attitude that saw the Club run into major difficulties years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 If he does comes back into the fray, he'll give his all, at least for his teammates' sake, and we'll probably move on and forget eventually. Until May comes around. The fans will boo him initially though. Of that there is no doubt. I think everyone should just sing You'll Never Walk Alone to him. It should make him feel much better about everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 I think everyone should just sing You'll Never Walk Alone to him. It should make him feel much better about everything. A couple of minute silence's would help too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 Have to agree. It was this sort of short sighted attitude that saw the Club run into major difficulties years ago.Did you cheer Harry's goal last night? What's Farke like? Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didcot Saint Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 Sky are now reporting that the club has said VVD WILL get his wish to leave St Mary's. Spineless liars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 Sky are now reporting that the club has said VVD WILL get his wish to leave St Mary's. Spineless liars. No they aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 I think with Ralph's comments I might start getting used to the idea that Van Dijk -- Hoedt will be our CB pairing for this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 Sky are now reporting that the club has said VVD WILL get his wish to leave St Mary's. Spineless liars. No they aren't. Knob I think SKY were being naughty there. Jim White's phrase at the top of the hour was worded very similar to what Didcot said - I actually re-listened to it. The actual report made no mention of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 (edited) Have to agree. It was this sort of short sighted attitude that saw the Club run into major difficulties years ago. What the fans booing a few players put us in administration? Edited 17 August, 2017 by Golac's Cunning Stunts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 I think SKY were being naughty there. Jim White's phrase at the top of the hour was worded very similar to what Didcot said - I actually re-listened to it. The actual report made no mention of that. Sky's attempts to big up this transfer window business at every turn gets on my tits. I'm sure Jim White thinks the window was only introduced for their benefit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 Sky are now reporting that the club has said VVD WILL get his wish to leave St Mary's. Spineless liars.What did they say? Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didcot Saint Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 Thank you, Jim White definitely said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didcot Saint Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 I think SKY were being naughty there. Jim White's phrase at the top of the hour was worded very similar to what Didcot said - I actually re-listened to it. The actual report made no mention of that. Thank you, Jim White definitely said it so ******** to all of you slagging me off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 Knob Not necessary Roger. One ALWAYS is enough pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 Thank you, Jim White definitely said it so ******** to all of you slagging me off He didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 He'll be back playing soon and will then probably leave in January. That way he gets his move, the Board save face and the club pockets a record fee. As far as the fans are concerned when he plays for us again we need to remember "To err is human. To forgive is divine". He's human. We are divine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 I heard that and then waited for the report which confirmed that he would not be sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieDog Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 Thank you, Jim White definitely said it so ******** to all of you slagging me off So, Sky Sports have said Double VD can go. The club you "support" have said he won't go. At the moment it is pure conjecture, but you choose to believe a a media corporation desperate for ratings, over Saints? And you are surprised that you get slagged off....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 Being naive but What is the point in keeping him if we are just going to do a u turn in January? So basically the most the club's stance does is keep him here only another four months..... Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 Clubs always pay over the odds in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 They spend all their Christmas money. Postal orders and that Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 Never will we sell him in January. Saints have not sold a top player before during that month plus VVD is at least a month away from playing a first class game for us. Does not make sense to have him for just over 3 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 17 August, 2017 Share Posted 17 August, 2017 Never will we sell him in January. Saints have not sold a top player before during that month plus VVD is at least a month away from playing a first class game for us. Does not make sense to have him for just over 3 months. Fonte? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 18 August, 2017 Share Posted 18 August, 2017 I feel there's is a lesson about to be taught and I completely back the club in teaching it if it can be done. Fingers crossed for Hoedt being completed and Van Dijks value on the wane from that point afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 18 August, 2017 Share Posted 18 August, 2017 Molby - another humble ex-player ingratiating himself to Saints fans. Fat pr1ck http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/virgil-van-dijk-personality-liverpools-11007473.amp They're a selling club, they sell to everyone. They let their manager's go to everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jim Posted 18 August, 2017 Share Posted 18 August, 2017 Molby - another humble ex-player ingratiating himself to Saints fans. Fat pr1ck http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/virgil-van-dijk-personality-liverpools-11007473.amp They're a selling club, they sell to everyone. They let their manager's go to everybody. Don't know whether to be surprised by this comment or not ......... "The Southampton situation is strange. I don't know what we have done to upset Southampton to the fact they are being so stubborn about it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 18 August, 2017 Share Posted 18 August, 2017 For me the real shocking comment is that he doesnt understand what poor Liverpool have done to upset SFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 18 August, 2017 Share Posted 18 August, 2017 For me the real shocking comment is that he doesnt understand what poor Liverpool have done to upset SFC. Me too. How dare the little, insignificant, selling Saints be upset and fail to do exactly as Liverpool want? New rule for next season: The "elite" clubs may, at will, to benefit impoverished players who only have such a short career, and generously contribute to the finances of the "other" clubs (otherwise known as irritating but necessary fodder), buy any player they wish, on terms that they alone will determine. This is necessary to preserve the strength of the league. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 18 August, 2017 Share Posted 18 August, 2017 (edited) For me the real shocking comment is that he doesnt understand what poor Liverpool have done to upset SFC. Yep, but has anyone from Barcelona said similar yet..... "The LIVERPOOL situation is strange. I don't know what we have done to upset LIVERPOOL to the fact they are being so stubborn about it." Edited 18 August, 2017 by ALWAYS_SFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 18 August, 2017 Share Posted 18 August, 2017 Wow Molby is a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 18 August, 2017 Share Posted 18 August, 2017 Molby - another humble ex-player ingratiating himself to Saints fans. Fat pr1ck http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/virgil-van-dijk-personality-liverpools-11007473.amp They're a selling club, they sell to everyone. They let their manager's go to everybody. In his column for the Liverpool Echo pretty much sums up what to excpect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 18 August, 2017 Share Posted 18 August, 2017 http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/898478752?-11205:798:0 Liverpool echo still think they will get their man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 18 August, 2017 Share Posted 18 August, 2017 If you search Southampton in Twitter the most recent posts are all about Liverpool stating we NEED to sell VvD due to the fact that the Gao family need to make their money. Any straw they can find... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 18 August, 2017 Share Posted 18 August, 2017 It is bout time the media made it clear if a bid has been made. Liverpool said they would not make a bid, we have not received one according to our club, and so why is this carrying on? No smoke without fire, and I suspect that the piece in the Times is laying the ground for something to give. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st16sfc Posted 18 August, 2017 Share Posted 18 August, 2017 It is bout time the media made it clear if a bid has been made. Liverpool said they would not make a bid, we have not received one according to our club, and so why is this carrying on? No smoke without fire, and I suspect that the piece in the Times is laying the ground for something to give.The club have made it perfectly clear that the player is not for sale. They've been utterly consistent with this for the outset. They are not now going to backtrack on that as no one would ever believe them again. God knows half our fanbase doesn't believe a word they say anyways. Everything in the press is simply the panic starting to set in as the dippers recognise the fact that they dipped out. *If we went on to sell him for £75m to anyone but the dippers AFTER getting a replacement in if consider that a good deal and a good transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 18 August, 2017 Share Posted 18 August, 2017 http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/898478752?-11205:798:0 Liverpool echo still think they will get their man. So when Hoedt comes in they will shut up then - well that's my "glimmer of hope". [emoji6] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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